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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: Garliv on February 04, 2020, 12:54:53 PM
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Following American political fiasco as it unfolds. The Democrats are set to rig Bernie Sanders once more. No way he's getting Democratic Party ticket.
Either way Donald Trump and his Rednecks will have four more years of Tweeting-in-Chief.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/feb/03/iowa-vote-latest-news-democratic-caucuses
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More like Jubilee party elections which can't even be held. Bernie would have given Trump a run for his money. Can't say the same about Biden.
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Unfortunately I don't believe any Democrat can beat Trump. Not even close. Democrats will be beaten to a pulp by Trump MAGA machine. Just like Clown Boris Conservatives gave do-gooders Labour a historic defeat.
The Madmen are in charge. The alternatives are sickos.
More like Jubilee party elections which can't even be held. Bernie would have given Trump a run for his money. Can't say the same about Biden.
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Yup not the best time for the Left and liberals. Dems should have learnt the lesson in 2016. They should let democracy take its course. Any shenanigans will lead to the Hillary apathy where hippies and millennials fail to show up. Trump carried most states by razor margins due to liberal apathy.
Unfortunately I don't believe any Democrat can beat Trump. Not even close. Democrats will be beaten to a pulp by Trump MAGA machine. Just like Clown Boris Conservatives gave do-gooders Labour a historic defeat.
The Madmen are in charge. The alternatives are sickos.
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By the way what's cutting in Iowa? thought Pete B was leading the pack.
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Nothing much. Just US deep state "defeating" the undesirable. They will then blame Russia. And Putin.
By the way what's cutting in Iowa? thought Pete B was leading the pack.
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Who won Iowa? Pete B was leading in the polls.
Nothing much. Just US deep state "defeating" the undesirable. They will then blame Russia. And Putin.
By the way what's cutting in Iowa? thought Pete B was leading the pack.
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Pete would be disaster for himself and the Dems. Will bring out the worst in the MAGAs. Some things are best left unsaid.
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It's a screw up by obvious Witch Clinton.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/tech-firm-whose-shadow-app-cocked-iowa-results-run-ex-clinton-obama-staff
No one would believe any results from that f%ck-up. But what it succeeds in doing is embitter Bernie supporters. They won't vote and that will definitely make Dems lose
Who won Iowa? Pete B was leading in the polls.
Nothing much. Just US deep state "defeating" the undesirable. They will then blame Russia. And Putin.
By the way what's cutting in Iowa? thought Pete B was leading the pack.
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By the way what's cutting in Iowa? thought Pete B was leading the pack.
Absolutely not. Bernie has been leading IOWA for over a week and heading up to the caucus, well up to the last day, had opened a wide margin. One poll had him at 29% vs the next guy at 21% while another had him at 24.7% vis 20% no. 2. Pple think the DNC is rigging with these shenanigans precisely because Bernie is leading in this and New Hampshire. It's not a surprise that pple watching mainstream shows thought Pete was leading. Even when he was fourth they hiped his numbers and pretended Bernie didn't exist. It seems they wanted to deny him the momentum power of winning IOWA and NH. No one in History won both and lost the nomination because of the momentum early victories provide.
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Absolutely not. Bernie has been leading IOWA for over a week and heading up to the caucus, well up to the last day, had opened a wide margin. One poll had him at 29% vs the next guy at 21% while another had him at 24.7% vis 20% no. 2. Pple think the DNC is rigging with these shenanigans precisely because Bernie is leading in this and New Hampshire. It's not a surprise that pple watching mainstream shows thought Pete was leading. Even when he was fourth they hiped his numbers and pretended Bernie didn't exist. It seems they wanted to deny him the momentum power of winning IOWA and NH. No one in History won both and lost the nomination because of the momentum early victories provide.
Bernie and Warren are economic radicals so I guess corporate interests are misaligned to their policies. How does the DNC hope to get away with this?
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They always get away but blaming evil Russians. Am now expecting Putin to announce Iowa Dem results.
Colour revolution has arrived in the Empire of Deviants. First they use App named SHADOW INC. Which is the same App Pete Butt is using for internal stuffs. Then with zero results in Butt claim to have won Iowa. Then the App has glitches or crash or stall or has hiccups (choose any word!). Then Biden threaten lawsuit for Iowa results not to be released. And yes, some section of Dems keep reminding everyone that Bernie can't beat Trump!
These guys are lucky they don't have a Raila as their candidate. Mas action would be now in full display...
Bernie and Warren are economic radicals so I guess corporate interests are misaligned to their policies. How does the DNC hope to get away with this?
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It's a screw up by obvious Witch Clinton.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/tech-firm-whose-shadow-app-cocked-iowa-results-run-ex-clinton-obama-staff (https://www.zerohedge.com/political/tech-firm-whose-shadow-app-cocked-iowa-results-run-ex-clinton-obama-staff)
No one would believe any results from that f%ck-up. But what it succeeds in doing is embitter Bernie supporters. They won't vote and that will definitely make Dems lose
Zero hedge is rubbing shoulders with tin-foil territory though.
(https://i2.wp.com/mediabiasfactcheck.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/con4.png?w=662&ssl=1)
*Overall, we rate Zero Hedge an extreme right biased conspiracy website based on the promotion of false/misleading/debunked information that routinely denigrates the left.*
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/zero-hedge/ (https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/zero-hedge/)
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It's consistently more accurate than Leftist/woke/liberal nutcases like CNN and all other like it. Better and more moderate than Fox.
Rarely has it been proved wrong.
It's a screw up by obvious Witch Clinton.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/tech-firm-whose-shadow-app-cocked-iowa-results-run-ex-clinton-obama-staff (https://www.zerohedge.com/political/tech-firm-whose-shadow-app-cocked-iowa-results-run-ex-clinton-obama-staff)
No one would believe any results from that f%ck-up. But what it succeeds in doing is embitter Bernie supporters. They won't vote and that will definitely make Dems lose
Zero hedge is rubbing shoulders with tin-foil territory though.
(https://i2.wp.com/mediabiasfactcheck.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/con4.png?w=662&ssl=1)
*Overall, we rate Zero Hedge an extreme right biased conspiracy website based on the promotion of false/misleading/debunked information that routinely denigrates the left.*
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/zero-hedge/ (https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/zero-hedge/)
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By the way what's cutting in Iowa? thought Pete B was leading the pack.
Absolutely not. Bernie has been leading IOWA for over a week and heading up to the caucus, well up to the last day, had opened a wide margin. One poll had him at 29% vs the next guy at 21% while another had him at 24.7% vis 20% no. 2. Pple think the DNC is rigging with these shenanigans precisely because Bernie is leading in this and New Hampshire. It's not a surprise that pple watching mainstream shows thought Pete was leading. Even when he was fourth they hiped his numbers and pretended Bernie didn't exist. It seems they wanted to deny him the momentum power of winning IOWA and NH. No one in History won both and lost the nomination because of the momentum early victories provide.
It seems like you got this wrong. Butige sounds like butt jig is popular with rural bible thumpers
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By the way what's cutting in Iowa? thought Pete B was leading the pack.
Absolutely not. Bernie has been leading IOWA for over a week and heading up to the caucus, well up to the last day, had opened a wide margin. One poll had him at 29% vs the next guy at 21% while another had him at 24.7% vis 20% no. 2. Pple think the DNC is rigging with these shenanigans precisely because Bernie is leading in this and New Hampshire. It's not a surprise that pple watching mainstream shows thought Pete was leading. Even when he was fourth they hiped his numbers and pretended Bernie didn't exist. It seems they wanted to deny him the momentum power of winning IOWA and NH. No one in History won both and lost the nomination because of the momentum early victories provide.
It seems like you got this wrong. Butige sounds like butt jig is popular with rural bible thumpers
You can be less crass. Pete B is leading by delegates. Bernie by vote count. The two are neck-to-neck. Seems Pete and Bern have might eclipse Warren and Biden as the progressive and moderate front-runners.
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It's consistently more accurate than Leftist/woke/liberal nutcases like CNN and all other like it. Better and more moderate than Fox.
Rarely has it been proved wrong.
It's a screw up by obvious Witch Clinton.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/tech-firm-whose-shadow-app-cocked-iowa-results-run-ex-clinton-obama-staff (https://www.zerohedge.com/political/tech-firm-whose-shadow-app-cocked-iowa-results-run-ex-clinton-obama-staff)
No one would believe any results from that f%ck-up. But what it succeeds in doing is embitter Bernie supporters. They won't vote and that will definitely make Dems lose
Zero hedge is rubbing shoulders with tin-foil territory though.
(https://i2.wp.com/mediabiasfactcheck.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/con4.png?w=662&ssl=1)
*Overall, we rate Zero Hedge an extreme right biased conspiracy website based on the promotion of false/misleading/debunked information that routinely denigrates the left.*
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/zero-hedge/ (https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/zero-hedge/)
Then you must love infowars' "super truthiness" :-[
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How is Bloomberg faring? He is nowhere in Iowa.
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Nope. I cannot stomach Infowars. And if you compare Zerohedge to Infowars then you haven't paid much attention about them. You have paid attention to left drivel dismissing them as "ultra right conspiracies.." They are day and night apart.
Zerohedge has consistently proven to be credible. No weird theories except where reasonable source/justification exists. It highlights lots of stuff which US Ministry of Propaganda (left/liberal lying) media doesn't or distort.
Check this credible portrayal of media bias/fact check. Do not rely on some website designed to reinforce official narrative under the guise of identifying "media bias.. IT'S anything but dependable or factual..
https://www.justfactsdaily.com/media-bias-fact-check-incompetent-or-dishonest/
Then you must love infowars' "super truthiness" :-[
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ZeroHedge is gutter. Complete with anonymous columnists. They have a tech blogger called "Tyler Durden" who unleashes on Tesla and SpaceX so often.
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You wrong. Tyler Durden is always claimed as byline. But the article itself/themselves have "Authored by...." But you have to understand Tyler Durden is a character in the FIGHT CLUB movie. So is adopted as a PSEUDONYM.
Well... Let's say definition of "gutter" is relatively. It's in the eye of beholder (mostly if not always)., I have seen several and countless fabrications on CNN, NY, Washington post and others. Apart from having "good name" and being "newspapers of record" they are nothing but gutter stuff to brainwash sheeple into some direction.
You should visit ZeroHedge for few days then compare it's coverage and reality.
ZeroHedge is gutter. Complete with anonymous columnists. They have a tech blogger called "Tyler Durden" who unleashes on Tesla and SpaceX so often.
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Critiquing Tesla isn't a criteria for being gutter press. And no one has ever claimed ZeroHedge's Tyler Durden is not a pseudonym. Everyone knows it. And his real identity is known.
As i said.. Follow it for few days and pinpoint falsehoods or "ridiculous conspiracy theories" or anything untoward.
ZeroHedge is gutter. Complete with anonymous columnists. They have a tech blogger called "Tyler Durden" who unleashes on Tesla and SpaceX so often.
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Mr Durden builds an army of delinquents who indulge in anti-social activities and criminality. Finally he blows up Wall Street to "reset the credit record." You see why the moniker is unsavory.
He was a delusional MPD. "Mr Durden has reconstructive surgery every three years" "Nobody knows what he looks like" "Is Mr Durden building an army?"
The columnist focuses on the Musk character and personality instead of the company's objective merits. He sees nothing but a roster of bears and shortsellers to quote. Mr Doom who the market never concurs with.
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Nope. I cannot stomach Infowars. And if you compare Zerohedge to Infowars then you haven't paid much attention about them. You have paid attention to left drivel dismissing them as "ultra right conspiracies.." They are day and night apart.
Zerohedge has consistently proven to be credible. No weird theories except where reasonable source/justification exists. It highlights lots of stuff which US Ministry of Propaganda (left/liberal lying) media doesn't or distort.
Check this credible portrayal of media bias/fact check. Do not rely on some website designed to reinforce official narrative under the guise of identifying "media bias.. IT'S anything but dependable or factual..
https://www.justfactsdaily.com/media-bias-fact-check-incompetent-or-dishonest/ (https://www.justfactsdaily.com/media-bias-fact-check-incompetent-or-dishonest/)
Then you must love infowars' "super truthiness" :-[
Just Facts peddles half-truths and right wing talking points. James Presti is the owner and is also the author of Rational Conclusions, a meticulously researched and scholarly acclaimed book evidencing factual support for the Bible across a broad array of academic disciplines. He is also a regular on Fox News.
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Bloomberg millions have landed him no 3. Money can buy legitimacy... dude has not attended a single debate. Biden is kaput.
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Bloomberg millions have landed him no 3. Money can buy legitimacy... dude has not attended a single debate. Biden is kaput.
I am having second thoughts on Biden. He has been wallowing in his "front-runner" status and thinks that by itself should be enough to propel him to the White House. He does not seem understand the desperation of Republicans, who know because of demographic change, they must rely on increasingly undemocratic methods to attain and maintain power.
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Biden surely? Incomprehensible, senile, hair-smelling creep? Biden time is over. He should have not have been in the race in the first place.
But its Democrats who are desperate and they know it. That's why they wanted Trump on most ridiculous Impeachment Charges ever. Unless Bernie is the nominee, Democrats are already down and out..
Bloomberg millions have landed him no 3. Money can buy legitimacy... dude has not attended a single debate. Biden is kaput.
I am having second thoughts on Biden. He has been wallowing in his "front-runner" status and thinks that by itself should be enough to propel him to the White House. He does not seem understand the desperation of Republicans, who know because of demographic change, they must rely on increasingly undemocratic methods to attain and maintain power.
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Bloomberg millions have landed him no 3. Money can buy legitimacy... dude has not attended a single debate. Biden is kaput.
I am having second thoughts on Biden. He has been wallowing in his "front-runner" status and thinks that by itself should be enough to propel him to the White House. He does not seem understand the desperation of Republicans, who know because of demographic change, they must rely on increasingly undemocratic methods to attain and maintain power.
Buttigiege and Klobuchar have risen by surprise. The "moderate" lane is congested right now - poor Biden is badly squeezed. Sanders has it easy as a the certified "progressive". Trump calls him "Crazy Sanders". I get that most Democrats want a sober guy like Biden or Bloomberg. But I am for a radical... to avoid apathy ala Clinton. Biden is the boring establishment candidate now - Bloomberg is a Republican - the rest are 50 shades of the status quo. Buttigiege is a good bet.
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ZeroHedge is gutter. Complete with anonymous columnists. They have a tech blogger called "Tyler Durden" who unleashes on Tesla and SpaceX so often.
That is where white racists/nationalists congregate. Their comments section is stormfront levels vitriol.
Garliv is Garlic on other nipate ? The notorious Trump ass kisser/russian troll.
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If Bernie Sanders takes Nevada and South Carolina, Termie's hero Joe Biden will be kaput like Ruto. Funny how this race is a wazee affair. Pete B is 38 everyone else is in 70s
Poll: Sanders holds 19-point lead in Nevada
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/483399-sanders-holds-19-point-lead-in-nevada-poll
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Independents seem to favor Bernie. Am in denial but Lets see mid March.
I saw Michael Moore campaigning for Bernie the other day and am in conversion therapy
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No shit there's a new fool called George soros :o
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Sanders wipes the floor with
Ruto Biden
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Sanders seems unstoppable. Scored 47 v 19 Biden in Nevada. He is cleaning out Super Tuesday too. Biden and Bloomberg have to square out for no 2.
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Let me introduce you guys to a show that does actual analysis instead of establishment propaganda: It's Rising (on the channel 'The Hill') https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPWXiRWZ29zrxPFIQT7eHSA
I was not surprised by Nevada like those idiots on MSNBC because I've been watching their analysis for three weeks. They laughed off all the stablishment talking points and have been proven right EVERY SINGLE TIME.
1) MSM: 'Bernie wins Iowa (pop vote) and NH coz they're pure white. Wait till we get to diverse states then he'll be floored.'
-Rising said: Actually, Bernie's strength is among Minorities, so expect him to only get stronger once you move out of Iowa, NH.
Nevada shows they were right.
2) MSM: 'Bernie is winning coz moderates are splitting the moderate vote/lane'
-Rising said: Actually, there's no such thing as a 'moderate lane': it's a meme made up by pundits. Voters don't think like that, they think in terms of individual candidates and who they think will beat Trump for a good chunk. In fact, MOST voters list Bernie as their preferred second choice; both Biden and Warren voters, so assuming they'll congregate under one of them against Bernie is not based on any analysis: the 'moderate lane' vs 'progressive lane' don't exist.
3) MSM: 'Bernie has a ceiling: he can't grow his support/unite Democrats beyond his fringe hardcore support.'
-Rising said: Nonsense. The party base will begin jumping on board the ship of anyone who starts wracking up the wins; exactly as happened with Trump in the RNC process in 2016. It doesn't matter if that person is Bernie or Biden or Warren.
4) MSM: 'Joe Biden is prolly finished after NH.'
-Rising said: Don't count him out yet! If he squeaks out a second in Nevada, which he can, and a win in S.C., he'll struggle but will still be in play. His real problem is Super Tuesday: has not been campaigning well because of no money and poor ground-game, but MSM will give him a lot of airtime boost if he does well in S.C.
5) MSM: 'Bernie is not electable. Biden is, Warren is, Buttigiege etc.'
-Rising said: Bernie is the MOST electable. Why?
(1) He has beaten Trump by the highest margin in most head-to-head polls, of all the Dem candidates.
(2) He's the only one who speaks to the populist independent vote that gave Trump the edge over Hillary in the Rustbelt in 2016—They hate establishment candidates from both parties.
(3) He has the ground-game, comparable only to Trump 2016 and Obama 2008: the Get-the-vote-out game, that is. Biden in particular has very poor ground-game. Warren and Buttigiege have very good ground-game but no money. Plus, Warren's hiring former Hillary people who advised her to start turning back on M4All and start playing up Hillary's tired Identity politics 'I'm a woman' nonsense totally tanked her campaign. She and Biden were Bernie's only real competition b4 Bloomberg turned up with all his cash.Buttigiege has never been a threat because he has no minority support like Biden and Bernie. Elizabeth doesn't have minority support either but she had good crossover appeal that would've carried her if she had performed well in the first few states. Her real problem is she has been 4th/5th throughout.
(4) Not only can Bernie compete with Trump, his strategy is the only one that has a chance to beat him at his strength: Trump's strength is that older people, white people, and Republicans in general vote like their lives depend on it, whereas younger pple and minorities tend not to vote. 40% of the electorate stay home. Bernie isn't looking to convert Trumpians Blue, he's looking to turn out a vote base that normally doesn't vote: Latinos, Blacks, young people.
-Which is why his ground game counts a big deal but ALSO his message. They won't be turning out for milktoast status quo centrist, 'moderate' nonsense. They'll be turning out for college debt forgiveness and Medicare 4 all. Only middle class, educated White liberals (or middle-class liberals in general) will be turning out to the polls just to kick Trump out of office. For the poor working class, you need to give them something tangible, like Trump gave 'build the wall' and a few others to poor Whites on the Right.
(5) Besides Bloomberg, the rest have run out of money and have not been running ads or campaigning properly in the Super Tuesday states. Bernie is flowing with cash: a huuuuuge war chest and all of it reflects grassroots support since he has refused to take anything but small donations. He has more money than anyone save Bloomberg.
I advise everyone not to rely on MSNBC (the WORST culprit), but also CNN and the other MSM. The only pple who have been seeing this clearly have been Fox, shockingly, only because they were comparing it to RNC 2016 and seeing the parallels, but even they have gotten a lot of stuff wrong. Watch Rising on the Hill, folks! You'll despise MSM very fast if you do because you'll watch them miss everything. They are not stupid, they are 'invested': they are millionaires who don't want to pay higher taxes. Rely on them at your peril. They've plain said they'd rather lose to Trump and try again in 2024 than have Bernie take over coz he'll change everything. (Chris Mathews). So if you're not on board with that, be aware that they are not in anyway neutral.
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MSM lies are not known to the 'moderate' voters and independents unfortunately. The fringe voters - Trump's redknecks and Bernie's students and hippies - are the ones that know and despise them. They are call "mainstream" for a reason.
You are right only Bernie or Warren can beat Trump. Warren has been swept aside so now we have Bernie. Joe Biden is another boring safe pair of hands like Hillary that creates no excitement and turnout.
The biggest risk for Bernie once he nails the primaries are
1. health - say another heart attack? At times he looks tired
2. he could outdo himself with radical policy and turn away independents. The way Jeremy Corbyn turned off people
3. Trump rabit tricks. He may have another "Build the wall" rallying cry to counter Bernie's populism
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Why do you think Fox are favorable to Bernie? Should they not be afraid?
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There is no way Warren can beat Trump. Not even close. With her unfathomable maths. Her fake Indian bloodline. Her fake being denied or forced out of work cause of pregnancy etc etc would be utilised by Trump such that she won't even have a start.
Crazy Bernie is actually nuts. I don't understand his socialism brand and imagine am an African who believes it can work. Try selling that to Americans who equate Socialism with evil and you see how Trump team would make a mincemeat out of him. At least Bernie has ardently loyal supporters so they can stick with him through it all.
Finally even big shot Dems aka deep state aka Clinton/Obama machinery really loathe Bernie. They'd better let Trump win than see Bernie as President.
It's Clown Orangetan Guy for another 4yrs.
MSM lies are not known to the 'moderate' voters and independents unfortunately. The fringe voters - Trump's redknecks and Bernie's students and hippies - are the ones that know and despise them. They are call "mainstream" for a reason.
You are right only Bernie or Warren can beat Trump. Warren has been swept aside so now we have Bernie. Joe Biden is another boring safe pair of hands like Hillary that creates no excitement and turnout.
The biggest risk for Bernie once he nails the primaries are
1. health - say another heart attack? At times he looks tired
2. he could outdo himself with radical policy and turn away independents. The way Jeremy Corbyn turned off people
3. Trump rabit tricks. He may have another "Build the wall" rallying cry to counter Bernie's populism
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White racists/nationalist is a label. But check the content of what Zerohedge.com publish. It's far better informative than Leftists/Woke media who according to Candace Owen they exploit "Low IQs of Dems....." with lies and outright fantastical fiction.
2. I was for Trump when Killery was Dem nominee. Still believe Orange Guy is far better better than Killery. With Hitlerly the world would have even experienced nuclear war. A total psychopath who even drone-killer King Obama feared.
3. For Russia i think you refer to when they intervened to save Syria from US sponsored Jihadists. Whuch5i supported and time has proved us correct. Check at southfront.org for progressive maps since Russia intervened to present. It's now Idlib province being cleansed of Jihadists as US and Turkey still support Jihadists. And of course Trump did away with PRETENSE of fighting ISIS and declared his work is to SECURE THE OIL. In short US never fight terrorism, it creates. So as to make it easier to steal other countries resources and wealth.
ZeroHedge is gutter. Complete with anonymous columnists. They have a tech blogger called "Tyler Durden" who unleashes on Tesla and SpaceX so often.
That is where white racists/nationalists congregate. Their comments section is stormfront levels vitriol.
Garliv is Garlic on other nipate ? The notorious Trump ass kisser/russian troll.
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Why do you think Fox are favorable to Bernie? Should they not be afraid?
Trump was caught on tape admitting to being afraid of a Bernie faceoff. He has better political instincts than the Republican establishment who think screaming socialist will ensure no one will vote for Bernie. The problem is they have been calling every Dem that for years, it only works for the Red Base. If Bernie wins the nomination, the entire Dem voting base will get behind him and the establishment DNC media will have to at least pretend to be on board even while undermining him in other ways. Bernie is not trying to win over hardcore Trump pple. He knows it will never happen. What he's doing is making sure the unvoting base that leans blue and who would benefit from the social programs he's proposing, and that the establishment ignores turns up to vote. It's how Obama won in 2008; but Bernie is looking to go harder than him.
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I gotta admit some of Bernie's dreams are tough to swallow but am with him all the way. I consider socialism to be sounder than capitalism. The idea that wealth and resources should be amicably shared without a Darwinin scramble is appealing. Also, strictly speaking what Bernie proposes is not economic socialism. All these welfares and free universal medical, tution, etc already exist in Sweden, UK, Denmark, Germany and literally all of Western Europe and Canada. "The West" is welfare world which is why people die in the ocean trying to get there. The US runaway capitalism and inequality is an outlier and a crying shame.
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Garliv of course has abhorrent, draconian conservative dogma. Prolly hates gay folks as much as does the Luo.
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I gotta admit some of Bernie's dreams are tough to swallow but am with him all the way. I consider socialism to be sounder than capitalism. The idea that wealth and resources should be amicably shared without a Darwinin scramble is appealing. Also, strictly speaking what Bernie proposes is not economic socialism. All these welfares and free universal medical, tution, etc already exist in Sweden, UK, Denmark, Germany and literally all of Western Europe and Canada. "The West" is welfare world which is why people die in the ocean trying to get there. The US runaway capitalism and inequality is an outlier and a crying shame.
Yes, the truth is he won't pass more than one of them. Two if he's lucky. I just hope he fixes the immigration issue (dreamers) and gets a single payer govt health insurance scheme. If he's lucky, and that's a big if, he can get student debt cancellation and free tuition since that's relatively cheap, but healthcare and dreamers, IMO, are most pressing. The rest are just good to introduce into the political discourse but they won't get passed for a few years, maybe decades.
And yes, it's not socialism he's calling for: I don't know why he insisted on labeling himself with that word Democratic 'socialist', seeing as how it's a big scare word for the right and a big stick for the establishment. He should've been more shrewd and called his ideas sthing like 'humane capitalism', i.e. free markets coupled with a robust social safety net.
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Robina, yes am conservative by nature. I hate homosexuals. I cannot for the life of me understand why some Africans were brainwashed to believe polygamy is EVIL while being Homosexual is a some kind of Human Right. Totally unbelievable brainwashing.
And i don't hate Luos. I judge by character. I just hate Raila demagoguery. But i also realise that he has good points like being an excellent Opposition Leader when he means to. My professional partner since i opened offices is from Okoth Obado neighbourhood. 8 have interests in the Lakeside city. And all over i deal with Luos including chicks. We may disagree on political points but i cannot hate anyone just because they happen to be Luo.
Garliv of course has abhorrent, draconian conservative dogma. Prolly hates gay folks as much as does the Luo.
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Mami Mami, Just now wait and see how Leftist media aka mainstream media and pundits tear into Bernie. I just watched that he celebrated some fantasy to rape women and other issues.
They will probably call in SuperDelegates and it's Deja vu for Bernie. The smear of Bernie is just gearing up now that he has established himself as frontrunner for nomination. I predict Dems (those who matter) will find a way to get rid of Bernie.
I gotta admit some of Bernie's dreams are tough to swallow but am with him all the way. I consider socialism to be sounder than capitalism. The idea that wealth and resources should be amicably shared without a Darwinin scramble is appealing. Also, strictly speaking what Bernie proposes is not economic socialism. All these welfares and free universal medical, tution, etc already exist in Sweden, UK, Denmark, Germany and literally all of Western Europe and Canada. "The West" is welfare world which is why people die in the ocean trying to get there. The US runaway capitalism and inequality is an outlier and a crying shame.
Yes, the truth is he won't pass more than one of them. Two if he's lucky. I just hope he fixes the immigration issue (dreamers) and gets a single payer govt health insurance scheme. If he's lucky, and that's a big if, he can get student debt cancellation and free tuition since that's relatively cheap, but healthcare and dreamers, IMO, are most pressing. The rest are just good to introduce into the political discourse but they won't get passed for a few years, maybe decades.
And yes, it's not socialism he's calling for: I don't know why he insisted on labeling himself with that word Democratic 'socialist', seeing as how it's a big scare word for the right and a big stick for the establishment. He should've been more shrewd and called his ideas sthing like 'humane capitalism', i.e. free markets coupled with a robust social safety net.
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Garliv of course has abhorrent, draconian conservative dogma. Prolly hates gay folks as much as does the Luo.
He reads like a person who treats the Left as a monolith. I can't blame him coz that used to be me too. I hated the excessive woke politics, but now I know better what the fights are really about. The Establishment Dems push woke politics because they're actually very right-wing on econ matters. They have no other way of looking 'not establishment' or even 'not Republican' besides identity politics--it gives them cover to pretend they have a 'small person' they're fighting for while keeping their billionaire sponsors safe from taxes. This is why their candidates don't offer voters anything besides, "Vote for me, I'm a woman/minority/gay." You see them now in their true colors because they're having to deal with bonafide left politics which is more class-based and pushing for bonafide change, much different than the identity games they replaced them with since the late 80s but mostly under the Clintons.
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Mami Mami, Just now wait and see how Leftist media aka mainstream media and pundits tear into Bernie. I just watched that he celebrated some fantasy to rape women and other issues.
They will probably call in SuperDelegates and it's Deja vu for Bernie. The smear of Bernie is just gearing up now that he has established himself as frontrunner for nomination. I predict Dems (those who matter) will find a way to get rid of Bernie.
I don't believe they will try that super delegates thing: it will end the party. If they can't sink Bernie's campaign through smears what they'll most likely do is let him have the nomination then weaken him with bad coverage so Trump wins. As I said be4, they've pretty much admitted they'd rather fight after Trump than let Bernie win this time. Their problem is they've been hyping their anti-Trump rubbish for 4 years straight and been pushing 'Vote Blue no matter what' on the base at the same time, so they have no credibility to say better Trump now. They'll do everything to stop Bernie but I have strong doubts they'll pull a blatant superdelegate robbery esp if Bernie maintains a big lead. It's even possible that he might get to the convention with an outright majority if Joe Biden doesn't win South Carolina.
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One may choose to be polygamous. They do not choose to be gay. It is "brainwashing" because you do not like it. Further most of Africa is still legally polygamous including Kenya.
Robina, yes am conservative by nature. I hate homosexuals. I cannot for the life of me understand why some Africans were brainwashed to believe polygamy is EVIL while being Homosexual is a some kind of Human Right. Totally unbelievable brainwashing.
And i don't hate Luos. I judge by character. I just hate Raila demagoguery. But i also realise that he has good points like being an excellent Opposition Leader when he means to. My professional partner since i opened offices is from Okoth Obado neighbourhood. 8 have interests in the Lakeside city. And all over i deal with Luos including chicks. We may disagree on political points but i cannot hate anyone just because they happen to be Luo.
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Don't tell me you believe in such pseudoscience that one is born gay? That there is genetic predisposition to be homosexual? This is a lifestyle choice. Most need psychiatric treatments and spiritual deliverance.
But in the West it has become more of in-thing to be this or that. Right now some mentally challenged people claim to be women when by all indicators they are male. That the distinction between Male and female is all in the mind. Crazy stuffs!
Like Theron claiming her boy is now a girl!
Hakuna biology. It's pure lunacy.
One may choose to be polygamous. They do not choose to be gay. It is "brainwashing" because you do not like it. Further most of Africa is still legally polygamous including Kenya.
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I said it : you're a radical, dogmatic conservative. I wonder if you were born that way or consciously chose :)
Don't tell me you believe in such pseudoscience that one is born gay? That there is genetic predisposition to be homosexual? This is a lifestyle choice. Most need psychiatric treatments and spiritual deliverance.
But in the West it has become more of in-thing to be this or that. Right now some mentally challenged people claim to be women when by all indicators they are male. That the distinction between Male and female is all in the mind. Crazy stuffs!
Like Theron claiming her boy is now a girl!
Hakuna biology. It's pure lunacy.
One may choose to be polygamous. They do not choose to be gay. It is "brainwashing" because you do not like it. Further most of Africa is still legally polygamous including Kenya.
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What's wrong with this site?
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I was once a Leftist leaning, socialist crackpot until I realized folly of accepting everything and everyone as equal. It's denial of reality. I can narrate all those woke/leftist crybaby theories and more.
So when I view something as bad/evil/satanic I make my stand. If I consider something is reasonable I won't hesitate to be the only one standing by that. A world where there is no right or wrong: no evil or godliness is just a world of make believe. Of zombies (to borrow a word overused by Miguna Miguna).
I said it : you're a radical, dogmatic conservative. I wonder if you were born that way or consciously chose :)
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White racists/nationalist is a label. But check the content of what Zerohedge.com publish. It's far better informative than Leftists/Woke media who according to Candace Owen they exploit "Low IQs of Dems....." with lies and outright fantastical fiction.
2. I was for Trump when Killery was Dem nominee. Still believe Orange Guy is far better better than Killery. With Hitlerly the world would have even experienced nuclear war. A total psychopath who even drone-killer King Obama feared.
3. For Russia i think you refer to when they intervened to save Syria from US sponsored Jihadists. Whuch5i supported and time has proved us correct. Check at southfront.org for progressive maps since Russia intervened to present. It's now Idlib province being cleansed of Jihadists as US and Turkey still support Jihadists. And of course Trump did away with PRETENSE of fighting ISIS and declared his work is to SECURE THE OIL. In short US never fight terrorism, it creates. So as to make it easier to steal other countries resources and wealth.
ZeroHedge is gutter. Complete with anonymous columnists. They have a tech blogger called "Tyler Durden" who unleashes on Tesla and SpaceX so often.
That is where white racists/nationalists congregate. Their comments section is stormfront levels vitriol.
Garliv is Garlic on other nipate ? The notorious Trump ass kisser/russian troll.
Zero Hedge is conspiracy theory central. We have been over this before. Are you just going to keep posting the same stuff and pretend it's not?
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1. I do agree Establishment Dems hide behind identity politics to push their agenda. And that is the main problem with the Left in general. It's full of pretenders. Wolves among the sheeple.
2. We are in agreement that establishment Dems will do anything to sink Bernie. I see you don't anticipate Super delegates scenario. And all the while Dems party is talking about "compromise"...
We shall see how it ends.
3. My humble opinion is that among the Democrats no one candidate has a chance against Trump. None. Bernie happens to be the better option because he has committed hipsters, Marxist students, socialist anarchists and good dose of "minorities" behind him. Otherwise looks like US election will be like UK where Corbyn got a historic whipping primarily because of trying to please everyone (jews, Remainers, Brexiteers, Irish madmen, English rednecks and open borders bleeding Leftist). Major weakness with Left and liberals.
Trump lines and orientation are clear. No guesswork. He damn well present himself as he is. And that's a strong point.
https://www.rt.com/usa/481682-sanders-lawsuit-real-democrat/
Mami Mami, Just now wait and see how Leftist media aka mainstream media and pundits tear into Bernie. I just watched that he celebrated some fantasy to rape women and other issues.
They will probably call in SuperDelegates and it's Deja vu for Bernie. The smear of Bernie is just gearing up now that he has established himself as frontrunner for nomination. I predict Dems (those who matter) will find a way to get rid of Bernie.
I don't believe they will try that super delegates thing: it will end the party. If they can't sink Bernie's campaign through smears what they'll most likely do is let him have the nomination then weaken him with bad coverage so Trump wins. As I said be4, they've pretty much admitted they'd rather fight after Trump than let Bernie win this time. Their problem is they've been hyping their anti-Trump rubbish for 4 years straight and been pushing 'Vote Blue no matter what' on the base at the same time, so they have no credibility to say better Trump now. They'll do everything to stop Bernie but I have strong doubts they'll pull a blatant superdelegate robbery esp if Bernie maintains a big lead. It's even possible that he might get to the convention with an outright majority if Joe Biden doesn't win South Carolina.
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It doesn't become a conspiracy theory central just because you say so. I do open their link everyday when possible. I go there for detailed articles and reporting which mainstream can't or won't cover or just twist facts. I don't go there for people's comment.
And no, i don't believe everything they write or claim. But overall it's good source for info in areas which interests me. And no, I don't read about Tesla cause it hasn't interested me yet.
Zero Hedge is conspiracy theory central. We have been over this before. Are you just going to keep posting the same stuff and pretend it's not?
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Garliv of course has abhorrent, draconian conservative dogma. Prolly hates gay folks as much as does the Luo.
He reads like a person who treats the Left as a monolith. I can't blame him coz that used to be me too. I hated the excessive woke politics, but now I know better what the fights are really about. The Establishment Dems push woke politics because they're actually very right-wing on econ matters. They have no other way of looking 'not establishment' or even 'not Republican' besides identity politics--it gives them cover to pretend they have a 'small person' they're fighting for while keeping their billionaire sponsors safe from taxes. This is why their candidates don't offer voters anything besides, "Vote for me, I'm a woman/minority/gay." You see them now in their true colors because they're having to deal with bonafide left politics which is more class-based and pushing for bonafide change, much different than the identity games they replaced them with since the late 80s but mostly under the Clintons.
It's a survival reflex. While Dems are the party of diversity, they still need the independents to win. Independents unfortunately need the reassurance that shit is not being given away to minorities for free.
IMO the problem with Bernie:
He needs Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, Florida(but any three of those should see him through). Pennsylvania and the Mid-Western states are where Trump essentially broke through with squeakers on the backs of voter suppression and poor turn-out in the Philly, Detroit, Milwaukee areas(there is a lot of black in there) and loses in Western Pennsylvania. Other than that, I still think these are states for Dems to lose.
My basic thinking is Biden would do a better job rectifying this result than Bernie because he appeals to those same demographics that cost Hillary these states. I am open to the possibility of that changing given that it's still early days. The next set of Primaries should be decisive and if Dems are wise, they should line up behind whoever comes out in front after Super Tuesday whether he spouts Sandinista propaganda or wine cave narratives.
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It doesn't become a conspiracy theory central just because you say so. I do open their link everyday when possible. I go there for detailed articles and reporting which mainstream can't or won't cover or just twist facts. I don't go there for people's comment.
And no, i don't believe everything they write or claim. But overall it's good source for info in areas which interests me. And no, I don't read about Tesla cause it hasn't interested me yet.
Zero Hedge is conspiracy theory central. We have been over this before. Are you just going to keep posting the same stuff and pretend it's not?
I don't know if you just enjoy being misinformed. Some people do. If that's your shtick, then more power to you.
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https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/zero-hedge/ (https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/zero-hedge/)
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And still you believe that website? Website that transparently endeavor to smear alternative sources of information so that the sheeple are kept mainstreamed? Why don't you believe Wikipedia then? Stick to CNN then. Am sure right now they blaming some Russians for helping Bernie. And you will believe it!
Just believe am a Russian Bot, then we should be fine.
It doesn't become a conspiracy theory central just because you say so. I do open their link everyday when possible. I go there for detailed articles and reporting which mainstream can't or won't cover or just twist facts. I don't go there for people's comment.
And no, i don't believe everything they write or claim. But overall it's good source for info in areas which interests me. And no, I don't read about Tesla cause it hasn't interested me yet.
Zero Hedge is conspiracy theory central. We have been over this before. Are you just going to keep posting the same stuff and pretend it's not?
I don't know if you just enjoy being misinformed. Some people do. If that's your shtick, then more power to you.
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https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/zero-hedge/ (https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/zero-hedge/)
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He reads like a person who treats the Left as a monolith. I can't blame him coz that used to be me too. I hated the excessive woke politics, but now I know better what the fights are really about. The Establishment Dems push woke politics because they're actually very right-wing on econ matters. They have no other way of looking 'not establishment' or even 'not Republican' besides identity politics--it gives them cover to pretend they have a 'small person' they're fighting for while keeping their billionaire sponsors safe from taxes. This is why their candidates don't offer voters anything besides, "Vote for me, I'm a woman/minority/gay." You see them now in their true colors because they're having to deal with bonafide left politics which is more class-based and pushing for bonafide change, much different than the identity games they replaced them with since the late 80s but mostly under the Clintons.
Yes. Identity is western tribalism. Bernie has capacity to drain the real swamp of the rich. I don't think the Dems can play the Super Delegate card for fear of a rebellion.
Oh. Garliv is more radical than you credit him. He is an alt-Right nutcase. His attitude says it all.
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The DNC trying to rig the SC primary. How can two polls show a narrow gap (and closing) btw Biden and Bernie, both in the 20%s, and then suddenly, a poll (from the same period) showing Biden still at 35% and Bernie 13% like the last two weeks didn't happen? Smh. I hope they don't pull some Iowa repeat nonsense on Saturday.
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I gotta admit some of Bernie's dreams are tough to swallow but am with him all the way. I consider socialism to be sounder than capitalism. The idea that wealth and resources should be amicably shared without a Darwinin scramble is appealing. Also, strictly speaking what Bernie proposes is not economic socialism. All these welfares and free universal medical, tution, etc already exist in Sweden, UK, Denmark, Germany and literally all of Western Europe and Canada. "The West" is welfare world which is why people die in the ocean trying to get there. The US runaway capitalism and inequality is an outlier and a crying shame.
Wealth and power when mixed together are very intoxicating. They suck humanity out of the person and all they see is $$. Trump and co., is a true case study. Russia is another good case to study. Bill Gates et al have money but they do not seek to have power.
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The DNC trying to rig the SC primary. How can two polls show a narrow gap (and closing) btw Biden and Bernie, both in the 20%s, and then suddenly, a poll (from the same period) showing Biden still at 35% and Bernie 13% like the last two weeks didn't happen? Smh. I hope they don't pull some Iowa repeat nonsense on Saturday.
The power of the Plutocrats. Learning from Putin.
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Garliv of course has abhorrent, draconian conservative dogma. Prolly hates gay folks as much as does the Luo.
He reads like a person who treats the Left as a monolith. I can't blame him coz that used to be me too. I hated the excessive woke politics, but now I know better what the fights are really about. The Establishment Dems push woke politics because they're actually very right-wing on econ matters.
It's a survival reflex. While Dems are the party of diversity, they still need the independents to win. Independents unfortunately need the reassurance that shit is not being given away to minorities for free.
No, Termi. That is a story the media is selling to middle class liberals like you because they know the no. 1 priority of middle class, esp White, liberals is to make Trump gone, like yesterday. ALL polling shows Bernie killing Trump not just in the popular vote but precisely the states Trump turned Red in 2016 that had voted Obama in 2008/2012. It's completely untrue that Biden has any chance at beating Trump in the Rustbelt where he's seen as establishment. Trump will chew him up and spit him out there.
Think I'm exaggerating the sheer, bold, determined corruption of the DNC? Take a read at this: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/27/us/politics/democratic-superdelegates.html
They are planning to deny Bernie the nomination and give it to one of the people he defeats, even though they are fully aware--and admit to the Times!--that the party will break up and this will 100% guarantee Trump a win. You guys (voters) may prioritize getting rid of Trump but these guys are fighting for their pockets and access to power. If the DNC will lose 30% of its support as a result, that's a risk they're willing to take. I was giving them some credit and assuming they wouldn't risk the party but I was wrong. Their screaming over Trump these past 4 years has been 75% an act/strategy. Trump maintains the status quo and serves the plutocracy and they are the status quo servants, the ruling aristocracy. They'll not give it away to the peasants just to avoid Trump's drama. Which is very sad for regular Americans. 100 years after France, they still won't get basic universal healthcare.
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Garliv of course has abhorrent, draconian conservative dogma. Prolly hates gay folks as much as does the Luo.
He reads like a person who treats the Left as a monolith. I can't blame him coz that used to be me too. I hated the excessive woke politics, but now I know better what the fights are really about. The Establishment Dems push woke politics because they're actually very right-wing on econ matters.
It's a survival reflex. While Dems are the party of diversity, they still need the independents to win. Independents unfortunately need the reassurance that shit is not being given away to minorities for free.
No, Termi. That is a story the media is selling to middle class liberals like you because they know the no. 1 priority of middle class, esp White, liberals is to make Trump gone, like yesterday. ALL polling shows Bernie killing Trump not just in the popular vote but precisely the states Trump turned Red in 2016 that had voted Obama in 2008/2012. It's completely untrue that Biden has any chance at beating Trump in the Rustbelt where he's seen as establishment. Trump will chew him up and spit him out there.
Think I'm exaggerating the sheer, bold, determined corruption of the DNC? Take a read at this: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/27/us/politics/democratic-superdelegates.html (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/27/us/politics/democratic-superdelegates.html)
They are planning to deny Bernie the nomination and give it to one of the people he defeats, even though they are fully aware--and admit to the Times!--that the party will break up and this will 100% guarantee Trump a win. You guys (voters) may prioritize getting rid of Trump but these guys are fighting for their pockets and access to power. If the DNC will lose 30% of its support as a result, that's a risk they're willing to take. I was giving them some credit and assuming they wouldn't risk the party but I was wrong. Their screaming over Trump these past 4 years has been 75% an act/strategy. Trump maintains the status quo and serves the plutocracy and they are the status quo servants, the ruling aristocracy. They'll not give it away to the peasants just to avoid Trump's drama. Which is very sad for regular Americans. 100 years after France, they still won't get basic universal healthcare.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epwzcl20fyM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epwzcl20fyM)
I don't doubt the Dem establishment opposition to Bernie's levels of liberalism. Indeed they are beholden to corporations as Bernie would say.
That aside there is a good reason Democrats cannot go left and win. Going left can win you a primary, but turn off some of the party's constituents. The Democratic party is bigger, but is made up of more diverse elements with interests that often diverge. While there may be underhand reasons why the establishment is opposed to Bernie, there are also legitimate concerns for the general election. Dems would not have tried to impeach Trump if they were half-way comfortable with him. If he goes another 4 years, rule of law in the US would be reduced to Turkey levels.
The Republican party is by contrast homogeneous. A party in place to preserve White Anglo Saxon Protestant patronage and there is very little divergence from that among party faithful. They will never say that openly, but if you've been around them long enough, you know without a shred of doubt what they are about. This means that if they go extreme right - like they are now - they don't miss a beat. They can be tribal and still remain competitive. For the Dems, going tribal is suicide. A lot of independents are just reluctant Republicans put off by the obvious racism in the other side.
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Honestly, Termie, suicide is stealing the nomination from the frontrunner twice in a row; Bernie's supporters will NOT vote for whoever the DNC picks if that person doesn't beat Bernie straight in a clean fight. Doing so is a straight concession to Trump, like, don't even bother with the elections after that, Trump wins by default. So anyone who does that has simply decided that Trump is the 'lesser of two evils'.
Don't you also see how crazy it is that people who can't beat Bernie in the primaries are just supposed to do be able to do better than him against Trump? It's a myth, which actual data already shows. 47 out of 50 polls, Bernie beats Trump and does so better than the rest. He also beats Trump in the Rustbelt, and in Pennsylvania, he's the only one who does so (beat Trump in the polls). It's not valid at all as an excuse to steal the nomination from progressives twice in a row. If you recall, it didn't exactly work out for Democrats in 2016. And back then, Bernie played ball and did 40 rallies for Hillary, but a significant chunk of his voters were still angry enough to sit out the election. That Bernie support won't be happening this time around unless the nominee beats Bernie straight.
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Honestly, Termie, suicide is stealing the nomination from the frontrunner twice in a row; Bernie's supporters will NOT vote for whoever the DNC picks if that person doesn't beat Bernie straight in a clean fight. Doing so is a straight concession to Trump, like, don't even bother with the elections after that, Trump wins by default. So anyone who does that has simply decided that Trump is the 'lesser of two evils'.
Don't you also see how crazy it is that people who can't beat Bernie in the primaries are just supposed to do be able to do better than him against Trump? It's a myth, which actual data already shows. 47 out of 50 polls, Bernie beats Trump and does so better than the rest. He also beats Trump in the Rustbelt, and in Pennsylvania, he's the only one who does so (beat Trump in the polls). It's not valid at all as an excuse to steal the nomination from progressives twice in a row. If you recall, it didn't exactly work out for Democrats in 2016. And back then, Bernie played ball and did 40 rallies for Hillary, but a significant chunk of his voters were still angry enough to sit out the election. That Bernie support won't be happening this time around unless the nominee beats Bernie straight.
It would indeed be suicide to steal the nomination from Bernie if he wins. But I think the assumption that Hillary lost because Bernie is not borne out by the data. Hillary lost because she could not raise numbers in Philly, Milwaukee and Detroit. Those are not Bernie strongholds.
Bernie strongholds tend to lean heavily Democrat such that a boycott by them tends to only lower the margin for victory. What do I mean? Even if Bernie is robbed, Massachusetts, California etc is not going to vote for Trump. No, I am not advocating for robbing him. But Bernie-bros tend to have this strange persecution complex even when they signed onto the rules.
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But Bernie-bros tend to have this strange persecution complex even when they signed onto the rules.
No, Termie, don't fall for Elizabeth's lies. Bernie pushed to get rid of superdelegates which are straight undemocratic and were used to steal the nomination for Hillary in 2016. He was simply outvoted. He had 7 out of the 19/20 votes in the negotiation committee, so he only managed to push the delegates to the second round rather than get rid of them and have clean processes like the RNC straight elections bila maneno mingi. So it's not fair to say, as Warren misleads, that Bernie somehow made those rules. She also lied that he advocated for the same position she is now, stealing from the person with a plurality using superdelagates. Also debunked. His position was that superdelegates from a certain state should go to the person who wins that state, whoever they are, that way they can't be used to veto elections in third-world/aristocratic fashion.
Hillary lost 4 rustbelt states that voted for Obama twice where Trump AND Obama pushed a populist message. It's not a coincidence that Bernie is doing well there against Trump. She also lost because Bernie voters voted third party or stayed home. If they had voted in equal numbers as before, no way Trump would have flipped those states: he was winning by mere 10,000 votes in some states. The depressed democratic turnout is the ONLY reason Hillary is not president.
They also can't exactly blame Bernie bros for having a persecution complex while plotting point-blank to steal the nomination from Bernie: it kind of proves their point. Please note, that pre-Bernie, Superdelegates have ALWAYS gone to the person with most delegates at the primaries, for 50 years. I don't think it's a persecution complex when it's based on clean facts, Warren herself is on record calling it rigging in 2017.
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But Bernie-bros tend to have this strange persecution complex even when they signed onto the rules.
No, Termie, don't fall for Elizabeth's lies. Bernie pushed to get rid of superdelegates which are straight undemocratic and were used to steal the nomination for Hillary in 2016. He was simply outvoted. He had 7 out of the 19/20 votes in the negotiation committee, so he only managed to push the delegates to the second round rather than get rid of them and have clean processes like the RNC straight elections bila maneno mingi. So it's not fair to say, as Warren misleads, that Bernie somehow made those rules. She also lied that he advocated for the same position she is now, stealing from the person with a plurality using superdelagates. Also debunked. His position was that superdelegates from a certain state should go to the person who wins that state, whoever they are, that way they can't be used to veto elections in third-world/aristocratic fashion.
Hillary lost 4 rustbelt states that voted for Obama twice where Trump AND Obama pushed a populist message. It's not a coincidence that Bernie is doing well there against Trump. She also lost because Bernie voters voted third party or stayed home. If they had voted in equal numbers as before, no way Trump would have flipped those states: he was winning by mere 10,000 votes in some states. The depressed democratic turnout is the ONLY reason Hillary is not president.
They also can't exactly blame Bernie bros for having a persecution complex while plotting point-blank to steal the nomination from Bernie: it kind of proves their point. Please note, that pre-Bernie, Superdelegates have ALWAYS gone to the person with most delegates at the primaries, for 50 years. I don't think it's a persecution complex when it's based on clean facts, Warren herself is on record calling it rigging in 2017.
How does one steal a nomination if they play by the rules? If Bernie doesn’t like superdelegates, he should not participate. Participation is an indirect endorsement of the process. They agreed to vote on how the process works and respect the result.
In SC Republicans are encouraging their supporters to vote Bernie in the open primary. Do you think this is also because they think he is a good general election candidate?
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I already spoke about how the Republican establishment has been hubristically boasting of beating Bernie because they assuming just screaming 'socialism' is enough. Trump knows better, as does Mitch McConnel.
It's well and good about 'the rules': Just know you're endorsing Trump if you go that route. Dont waste your time on election day. He will have won at the DNC convention, something the DNC superdelagates plotting the theft has admitted to knowing and choosing. So much for the fake DNC concern abt Bernie being 'electable': I guess just straight up handing the election to Trump sooner rather than later is the best way to go when that is the main concern. Aisuru. Me, I'll just watch from the sidelines as this stuff that's been so well predicted unfolds day by day.
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MSNBC, CBS, CNN are running lots of polls that show an implausible Biden surge in South Carolina. I can't wait to see egg on their faces as Sanders breaks out to unassailable on Super Tuesday.
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Looks like a rout for Biden... 50% vs 19% Sanders. bitmask you can come out of hiding now.
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Joe has outdone himself. I don't know if this will be enough to help him with his Super Tuesday problem but it's more than enough to win him the 'Bernie alternative' medal vis-a-vis the Buttigieg, Warren, Amy squad. Steyer has dropped out: Decent fella. I don't know about Bloomberg yet since he'll appear on the ballot for the first time on Super Tuesday, so we'll know when we know. I'm a Bernie bro and I'll be sad if Joe wins, but I'll accept it. What I will not accept is the DNC claiming to oppose Bernie on the basis that he can't beat Trump on one hand, and pulling third world crap that ensures Trump victory on the other. Let Joe (or Bloomberg) beat Bernie fair and square. It's now down to those three unless something drastic happens.
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I already spoke about how the Republican establishment has been hubristically boasting of beating Bernie because they assuming just screaming 'socialism' is enough. Trump knows better, as does Mitch McConnel.
It's well and good about 'the rules': Just know you're endorsing Trump if you go that route. Dont waste your time on election day. He will have won at the DNC convention, something the DNC superdelagates plotting the theft has admitted to knowing and choosing. So much for the fake DNC concern abt Bernie being 'electable': I guess just straight up handing the election to Trump sooner rather than later is the best way to go when that is the main concern. Aisuru. Me, I'll just watch from the sidelines as this stuff that's been so well predicted unfolds day by day.
Mami
you assume that most Americans are able to make intelligent decisions, right?
Most people watch Fox new and believe what they hear, that's y as human beings we are doomed.
Same people who protect the dictator are the ones who scream loudest when things go wrong.
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Looks like a rout for Biden... 50% vs 19% Sanders. bitmask you can come out of hiding now.
He won where he had to win. He now has the popular vote. He is viable past super-Tuesday. If he holds onto the popular vote, superdelegates are a shoo in and Doc Brown’s path to the nomination hits a dead end.
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Mayor Pete B quit the race but stopped short of endorsing Joe Biden. Elizabeth Warren and Amy Klobuchar should do the same. The Bloomberg effect remains Biden's biggest hurdle on Super Tuesday.
The boy can speak he is almost another Obama
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Biden has raked in a pound of endorsements towards Super Tuesday. But I don't think it is easy to beat Sanders network especially among Latinos. Latinos were the bulk of Sanders's 30-point lead in Nevada - as blacks broke out for Biden in South Carolina. California and Texas are Latino- heavy at 40% apiece. Overall they are 15% compared to 10% blacks... a small factor the media has totally blacked out.
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Biden has raked in a pound of endorsements towards Super Tuesday. But I don't think it is easy to beat Sanders network especially among Latinos. Latinos were the bulk of Sanders's 30-point lead in Nevada - as blacks broke out for Biden in South Carolina. California and Texas are Latino- heavy at 40% apiece. Overall they are 15% compared to 10% blacks... a small factor the media has totally blacked out.
We'll see. I suspect the Nevada numbers are not representative of a trend, but rather a bounce that Bernie was enjoying after the first 3 rounds, at the same time that Biden was in the doldrums. Biden really looked dead in the water till South Carolina.
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Well, they were/are both enjoying bounces, Biden is enjoying a bounce now because the media is pushing him (plus the endorsements) after south Carolina whereas when Bernie won it was all gloom and doom on the airwaves.
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It looks like Biden has won it. Very sad. No med4all. But at least the DNC won't be openly stealing it for him against Bernie so that's good news re Trump in the general.
PS: By the way, it's being reported that Obama is probably the big factor here: He's behind all the endorsements apparently over the last 36 hours, he signaled to the candidates and politicians that Biden was the guy to back and they went all in for him. I hope it works in the general. No med4all, but at least dreamers get a break if a Dem guy wins.
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Yeah Biden is leading. But California is yet to report and could flip it. Warren is also hurting Sanders in places like Massachusetts. Bloomberg's ad blitz is a flop.
Depends on California. If Sanders miraculously wins the DNC will take a big blow after all the pro-Biden endorsements. Small chance but possible for Sanders to take it.
What I really think... Biden will lose to Trump because Sanders's hippies will sit it out ala 2016. Sanders will beat Trump.
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Yeah Biden is leading. But California is yet to report and could flip it. Warren is also hurting Sanders in places like Massachusetts. Bloomberg's ad blitz is a flop.
Depends on California. If Sanders miraculously wins the DNC will take a big blow after all the pro-Biden endorsements. Small chance but possible for Sanders to take it.
What I really think... Biden will lose to Trump because Sanders's hippies will sit it out ala 2016. Sanders will beat Trump.
This is my big fear: While I am sooo sad abt Med4all, my bigger concern is the dreamers and basically any immigrants already in the U.S. illegally. I don't care about the wall or Trump stopping further immigration, I just want people already in the country protected, so I'll stomach a bumbling Biden presidency which won't be long: his vice-president will take over soon if he wins: The media has been protecting him but its clear to many pple who follow this closely that Biden has early-stage dementia.
He can't string proper sentences together. Just tonight he mixed up his wife and sister like he mixed up the Senate/Presidential races a few weeks ago and telling tales about Mandela that were clearly not factual and lashing out at voters plus the many other incidents people have been noticing over the past few months. He's no longer the Joe from the Obama era. He can't hold a debate. Trump may eat him alive. Repubs will have no mercy the way the MSM has been protecting him, they'll dig the knife in.
I'd be confident of a Bernie win re Trump because even in tonight's bad night for Bernie, he seems to win the White working-class: that's who gave Trump the presidency, yet the media keeps pushing the electability point against all evidence: they are there to protect the establishment infrastructure, losing to Trump is not their number 1 desire but opposing Trump another 4 years is also lucrative business for them, so it's not as bad an outcome for them as a bonafide progressive taking over the party itself.
I don't know if Bernie bros sit out the election like 2016 if Biden wins fair and square, but we'll see. I'm just so sad that so many Americans, like Kenyans, can be swayed by a media narrative to vote against their own interests, but I want a Dem to win for the sake of immigrants.
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Exactly Kadame - Biden will not survive the Trump drubbing. Trump is very fluent and now has the RNC fully behind him.
The average American is exactly the average Kenyan. Don't confuse yourself or Nipate for average. MSM in fact rules the Left.
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I think Joe will be okay if he gets majority of Bernie supporters on board. There is always going to be bad feelings after defeat. His immediate task, if he wins nomination will be, like any other nominee, to unite the party.
He can’t get all(or even much more that 50%) Bernie-bro’s on board. But he doesn’t have to. They are heavily concentrated and self selected in states he will win with or without them, like CA and New England.
Not so much in those swing states he needs in the Mid-west, FL, PA. In those the traditional approach to woo independents should work. Colorado is where I feel their influence and petulance can be impactful.
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Black voters kill Bernie revolution
https://www.thedailybeast.com/super-tuesday-smackdown-as-black-voters-stop-bernies-revolution-in-its-tracks
ders people won’t like this, but it’s pretty hard to avoid the conclusion that the voters who are the core of the Democratic Party—black voters over 40 and professional women of all colors—decided to stop the revolution.
Sanders did terribly among women. According to the exit polls, across all the Super Tuesday states, he nipped Biden 36-35 among men. But Biden clubbed him 38-25 among women (Elizabeth Warren got 16 percent).
Let’s face it. All these results are not out of massive adoration for Biden. It’s because a majority of Democratic primary voters evidently don’t want Sanders to be their nominee.
What don’t they like? We don’t know for sure. Maybe it’s because they disagree ideologically. Maybe they think he can’t win a general election. Maybe they don’t like the fact that he’s not a Democrat. I can’t help but notice that “Democrat” keeps creeping more and more into Biden’s language, surrounded by words like “proud” and “Roosevelt” and “Obama.” It’s probably some combination of all these factors, but it’s pretty clear they don’t want him.
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Let’s face it. All these results are not out of massive adoration for Biden. It’s because a majority of Democratic primary voters evidently don’t want Sanders to be their nominee.
What don’t they like? We don’t know for sure. Maybe it’s because they disagree ideologically. Maybe they think he can’t win a general election. Maybe they don’t like the fact that he’s not a Democrat. I can’t help but notice that “Democrat” keeps creeping more and more into Biden’s language, surrounded by words like “proud” and “Roosevelt” and “Obama.” It’s probably some combination of all these factors, but it’s pretty clear they don’t want him.
Nah, all these wins happened literally withing a day/two: The polls started changing very fast towards Biden after S.Carolina and the endorsements started flooding in with the full force of media narrative. He wasn't even cracking 15% in many of these just last week. Majority voters will vote for whoever they think is best positioned to beat Trump, which is why the polls change with anyone who has momentum. Few weeks ago, it was Bloomberg, at some point last year, it was Warren. Biden's happened to be at the right time just as his collapse before Iowa was bad timing for him.
50% of the Black voters in S. Carolina said they chose Biden after Qyburn's endorsement, per exit polls. After that, the rest went back to Biden, but they're no different than other voters; Bernie had overtaken Biden among Blacks nation-wide before S. Carolina.
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Let’s face it. All these results are not out of massive adoration for Biden. It’s because a majority of Democratic primary voters evidently don’t want Sanders to be their nominee.
What don’t they like? We don’t know for sure. Maybe it’s because they disagree ideologically. Maybe they think he can’t win a general election. Maybe they don’t like the fact that he’s not a Democrat. I can’t help but notice that “Democrat” keeps creeping more and more into Biden’s language, surrounded by words like “proud” and “Roosevelt” and “Obama.” It’s probably some combination of all these factors, but it’s pretty clear they don’t want him.
Nah, all these wins happened literally withing a day/two: The polls started changing very fast towards Biden after S.Carolina and the endorsements started flooding in with the full force of media narrative. He wasn't even cracking 15% in many of these just last week. Majority voters will vote for whoever they think is best positioned to beat Trump, which is why the polls change with anyone who has momentum. Few weeks ago, it was Bloomberg, at some point last year, it was Warren. Biden's happened to be at the right time just as his collapse before Iowa was bad timing for him.
50% of the Black voters in S. Carolina said they chose Biden after Qyburn's endorsement, per exit polls. After that, the rest went back to Biden, but they're no different than other voters; Bernie had overtaken Biden among Blacks nation-wide before S. Carolina.
Wrong, The southern Blacks are different Kettle and in DNC nominations they wield so much power to turn the race upside down for candidates that are not from their tribe. These simpletons just voted for Biden because of Obama not because he can beat Trump. Biden will be beaten by Trump like a drum
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I think Joe will be okay if he gets majority of Bernie supporters on board. There is always going to be bad feelings after defeat. His immediate task, if he wins nomination will be, like any other nominee, to unite the party.
He can’t get all(or even much more that 50%) Bernie-bro’s on board. But he doesn’t have to. They are heavily concentrated and self selected in states he will win with or without them, like CA and New England.
Not so much in those swing states he needs in the Mid-west, FL, PA. In those the traditional approach to woo independents should work. Colorado is where I feel their influence and petulance can be impactful.
Biden will face it rough debating Trump. He is not eloquent. Independents needed to flip purple states care about debates. What do you make of this assertion?
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I think Joe will be okay if he gets majority of Bernie supporters on board. There is always going to be bad feelings after defeat. His immediate task, if he wins nomination will be, like any other nominee, to unite the party.
He can’t get all(or even much more that 50%) Bernie-bro’s on board. But he doesn’t have to. They are heavily concentrated and self selected in states he will win with or without them, like CA and New England.
Not so much in those swing states he needs in the Mid-west, FL, PA. In those the traditional approach to woo independents should work. Colorado is where I feel their influence and petulance can be impactful.
Biden will face it rough debating Trump. He is not eloquent. Independents needed to flip purple states care about debates. What do you make of this assertion?
If the guy on the other side of the debate is Trump, I don't see that as a problem. Trump sounds like a 3rd grader on his best days. He has even hinted he will boycott any debates.
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I doubt Trump will boycott if he's up against Biden. He'd totally hide from Warren or Buttigieg or Bernie or maybe even Old Joe as gaffe-prone as he used to be even then. He and Bloomberg seem to be on some weird rich-boy schoolyard ego fight, so I think he'd show up for that debate :D With Joe, it's not that he's not eloquent, guys, he's literally losing his cognitive facilities from age; it's not a diss ala Trump implying he's dumb. He's NOT dumb. You should see the vid from yesterday where he forgot the words of the Declaration of independence in a speech and see the nature of his struggles. Joe has some kind of dementia going. People have known it for a while now but because he didn't seem like a threat, no one wanted to go after him on it. Republicans won't be so decent. I just read someone say that Trump has started tweeting videos of it after Super Tuesday.
I think his VP pick will matter a LOT. I heard it might be Stacy Abrams. Not as pro-social programs as I'd like but DAMN, girl can talk like nobody. Even Obama would be impressed. Whoever that VP pic is will be more consequential than usual, because if Biden wins the general, that person will very likely become U.S. President very soon after by default. In addition, after the Convention, the Obamas will def join the campaign trail.
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You really are sold on this dementia angle. If that’s the case, it would be two guys with dementia on the stage. Trump has his own struggles with word mangling. It got even worse after that unexplained trip to Walter Reed.
Biden’s real danger IMO is indiscipline. He has a tendency to be complacent when things are looking good. He needs to hire a big gun like David Axelrod to run his campaign. His VP pick should be interesting to watch.
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Spot On! We Rig'd Joe In. But Rigging the Primaries is allowed...even in ODM, I don't condemn it. Primaries rigging is House Keeping to ensure that you win the real election. No Way Good Sanders was going to win the real election
Following American political fiasco as it unfolds. The Democrats are set to rig Bernie Sanders once more. No way he's getting Democratic Party ticket.
Either way Donald Trump and his Rednecks will have four more years of Tweeting-in-Chief.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/feb/03/iowa-vote-latest-news-democratic-caucuses
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I don't see a big distinction between Biden and Hillary Clinton. In terms of their chances against Trump. The incumbent has a big advantage in no divisive primaries, and the issues he brags about fixing e.g. the economy and Muslim ban. Biden lacks the star power to turn out fringe voters like Sanders, Warren and Trump. I see another drubbing of the Dems in November.
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I don't see a big distinction between Biden and Hillary Clinton. In terms of their chances against Trump. The incumbent has a big advantage in no divisive primaries, and the issues he brags about fixing e.g. the economy and Muslim ban. Biden lacks the star power to turn out fringe voters like Sanders, Warren and Trump. I see another drubbing of the Dems in November.
I'm still worried about Biden's cognitive decline. More and more people are beginning to discuss it now that he's the front-runner and the left-leaning MSM won't be able to hide it longer, certainly not past the DNC convention, IMO. Rn, only place people are talking abt it on MSM is Fox, no surprise--he's the presumed Trump opponent. Otherwise, you only find it in Left and Right independent media sources. Incidentally, just read Coulter telling her alt-right buddies that Biden is a better opponent than Bernie for precisely the reasons you cite. If he's gonna pick Stacey Abrams, I hope he does so long be4 that point, because people will look at her as almost another presidential candidate in a way they don't look at other running-mates. Also, the Obamas will campaign for Biden, I'm sure, but after the convention. They're even mo popular now in the Dem base than when Obama left office, so it's a positive.
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I don't see a big distinction between Biden and Hillary Clinton. In terms of their chances against Trump. The incumbent has a big advantage in no divisive primaries, and the issues he brags about fixing e.g. the economy and Muslim ban. Biden lacks the star power to turn out fringe voters like Sanders, Warren and Trump. I see another drubbing of the Dems in November.
Likability. Trump and Hillary were the most unlikable candidates to be nominated in a long time.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/americans-distaste-for-both-trump-and-clinton-is-record-breaking/
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I don't see a big distinction between Biden and Hillary Clinton. In terms of their chances against Trump. The incumbent has a big advantage in no divisive primaries, and the issues he brags about fixing e.g. the economy and Muslim ban. Biden lacks the star power to turn out fringe voters like Sanders, Warren and Trump. I see another drubbing of the Dems in November.
Likability. Trump and Hillary were the most unlikable candidates to be nominated in a long time.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/americans-distaste-for-both-trump-and-clinton-is-record-breaking/
Yet Clinton eclipsed Sanders with relative ease. Biden is a fumbler with little charisma. I get why the mainstream Dems might not want Sanders but this will be no cakewalk.
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I don't see a big distinction between Biden and Hillary Clinton. In terms of their chances against Trump. The incumbent has a big advantage in no divisive primaries, and the issues he brags about fixing e.g. the economy and Muslim ban. Biden lacks the star power to turn out fringe voters like Sanders, Warren and Trump. I see another drubbing of the Dems in November.
Likability. Trump and Hillary were the most unlikable candidates to be nominated in a long time.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/americans-distaste-for-both-trump-and-clinton-is-record-breaking/ (https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/americans-distaste-for-both-trump-and-clinton-is-record-breaking/)
Yet Clinton eclipsed Sanders with relative ease. Biden is a fumbler with little charisma. I get why the mainstream Dems might not want Sanders but this will be no cakewalk.
I think I have heard it mentioned that Bernie's loses in the states Biden has won have been worse than when he ran 2016 against Hillary. He is not a flashy charismatic guy. But that is part of his appeal I think. Just an ordinary guy that used to take a train from Wilmington to DC.
The guy is winning in places he did not even campaign. Interestingly that is his potential Achilles. He may assume he does not need to do as much legwork as is necessary. Still in a general election the guy will appeal to western Pennsylvannia types with buyer's remorse.
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Warren drops out... this should help Sanders.
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I don't see a big distinction between Biden and Hillary Clinton. In terms of their chances against Trump. The incumbent has a big advantage in no divisive primaries, and the issues he brags about fixing e.g. the economy and Muslim ban. Biden lacks the star power to turn out fringe voters like Sanders, Warren and Trump. I see another drubbing of the Dems in November.
Likability. Trump and Hillary were the most unlikable candidates to be nominated in a long time.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/americans-distaste-for-both-trump-and-clinton-is-record-breaking/ (https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/americans-distaste-for-both-trump-and-clinton-is-record-breaking/)
Yet Clinton eclipsed Sanders with relative ease. Biden is a fumbler with little charisma. I get why the mainstream Dems might not want Sanders but this will be no cakewalk.
I think I have heard it mentioned that Bernie's loses in the states Biden has won have been worse than when he ran 2016 against Hillary. He is not a flashy charismatic guy. But that is part of his appeal I think. Just an ordinary guy that used to take a train from Wilmington to DC.
The guy is winning in places he did not even campaign. Interestingly that is his potential Achilles. He may assume he does not need to do as much legwork as is necessary. Still in a general election the guy will appeal to western Pennsylvannia types with buyer's remorse.
Did Obama make frantic calls for Clinton behind the scenes? Pre- convention. Without that Biden would be toast. He is hardly his own man.
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Actually, Hillary beat Bernie by nearly 75 delegates difference in Texas, now they're virtually tied; and she won California by 25 delegates or so, now Bernie wins with a bigger difference; Her margins in Virginia were also bigger; I think she took 73% of the vote; Biden this time took 54%? Same thing with the Carolinas. There isn't a single state in the South that Bernie lost to Biden that matches the differences in 2016; they were bigger then: the difference is in Maine, Massachusetts, and Minnesota (where Bernie won last time but lost this time around with few delegates difference-like 7/8/10 apiece) and Vermont where he won by a smaller margin, 5O-something against 22%; In 2016 he won by 80-something %. The bad sign for him is not the margins; it's that losing those three indicates he might lose Michigan etc, then no revival.
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Actually, Hillary beat Bernie by nearly 75 delegates difference in Texas, now they're virtually tied; and she won California by 25 delegates or so, now Bernie wins with a bigger difference; Her margins in Virginia were also bigger; I think she took 73% of the vote; Biden this time took 54%? Same thing with the Carolinas. There isn't a single state in the South that Bernie lost to Biden that matches the differences in 2016; they were bigger then: the difference is in Maine, Massachusetts, and Minnesota (where Bernie won last time but lost this time around with few delegates difference-like 7/8/10 apiece) and Vermont where he won by a smaller margin, 5O-something against 22%; In 2016 he won by 80-something %. The bad sign for him is not the margins; it's that losing those three indicates he might lose Michigan etc, then no revival.
That's probably true and I stand to be corrected. But I heard that Bernie performed worse in the states he lost this year than he did in 2016. Is it because Biden did better than Hillary? Not necessarily. It could just be down to a more crowded field, not to mention Elizabeth Warren presumably eating into his support.
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I don't see a big distinction between Biden and Hillary Clinton. In terms of their chances against Trump. The incumbent has a big advantage in no divisive primaries, and the issues he brags about fixing e.g. the economy and Muslim ban. Biden lacks the star power to turn out fringe voters like Sanders, Warren and Trump. I see another drubbing of the Dems in November.
Likability. Trump and Hillary were the most unlikable candidates to be nominated in a long time.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/americans-distaste-for-both-trump-and-clinton-is-record-breaking/ (https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/americans-distaste-for-both-trump-and-clinton-is-record-breaking/)
Yet Clinton eclipsed Sanders with relative ease. Biden is a fumbler with little charisma. I get why the mainstream Dems might not want Sanders but this will be no cakewalk.
I think I have heard it mentioned that Bernie's loses in the states Biden has won have been worse than when he ran 2016 against Hillary. He is not a flashy charismatic guy. But that is part of his appeal I think. Just an ordinary guy that used to take a train from Wilmington to DC.
The guy is winning in places he did not even campaign. Interestingly that is his potential Achilles. He may assume he does not need to do as much legwork as is necessary. Still in a general election the guy will appeal to western Pennsylvannia types with buyer's remorse.
Did Obama make frantic calls for Clinton behind the scenes? Pre- convention. Without that Biden would be toast. He is hardly his own man.
Biden needs all the help he can get no doubt. Winning where he did not sow portends good things if he works on it.