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[Nefertiti]

I gotta admit some of Bernie's dreams are tough to swallow but am with him all the way. I consider socialism to be sounder than capitalism. The idea that wealth and resources should be amicably shared without a Darwinin scramble is appealing. Also, strictly speaking what Bernie proposes is not economic socialism. All these welfares and free universal medical, tution, etc already exist in Sweden, UK, Denmark, Germany and literally all of Western Europe and Canada. "The West" is welfare world which is why people die in the ocean trying to get there. The US runaway capitalism and inequality is an outlier and a crying shame.

[Nefertiti]

Garliv of course has abhorrent, draconian conservative dogma. Prolly hates gay folks as much as does the Luo.

[Dear Mami]

I gotta admit some of Bernie's dreams are tough to swallow but am with him all the way. I consider socialism to be sounder than capitalism. The idea that wealth and resources should be amicably shared without a Darwinin scramble is appealing. Also, strictly speaking what Bernie proposes is not economic socialism. All these welfares and free universal medical, tution, etc already exist in Sweden, UK, Denmark, Germany and literally all of Western Europe and Canada. "The West" is welfare world which is why people die in the ocean trying to get there. The US runaway capitalism and inequality is an outlier and a crying shame.

Yes, the truth is he won't pass more than one of them. Two if he's lucky. I just hope he fixes the immigration issue (dreamers) and gets a single payer govt health insurance scheme. If he's lucky, and that's a big if, he can get student debt cancellation and free tuition since that's relatively cheap, but healthcare and dreamers, IMO, are most pressing. The rest are just good to introduce into the political discourse but they won't get passed for a few years, maybe decades.

And yes, it's not socialism he's calling for: I don't know why he insisted on labeling himself with that word Democratic 'socialist', seeing as how it's a big scare word for the right and a big stick for the establishment. He should've been more shrewd and called his ideas sthing like 'humane capitalism', i.e. free markets coupled with a robust social safety net.

[Garliv]

Robina, yes am conservative by nature. I hate homosexuals. I cannot for the life of me understand why some Africans were brainwashed to believe polygamy is EVIL while being Homosexual is a some kind of Human Right. Totally unbelievable brainwashing.

And i don't hate Luos. I judge by character. I just hate Raila demagoguery. But i also realise that he has good points like being an excellent Opposition Leader when he means to. My professional partner since i opened offices is from Okoth Obado neighbourhood. 8 have interests in the Lakeside city. And all over i deal with Luos including chicks. We may disagree on political points but i cannot hate anyone just because they happen to be Luo.

Garliv of course has abhorrent, draconian conservative dogma. Prolly hates gay folks as much as does the Luo.

[Garliv]

Mami Mami, Just now wait and see how Leftist media aka mainstream media and pundits tear into Bernie. I just watched that he celebrated some fantasy to rape women and other issues.

They will probably call in SuperDelegates and it's Deja vu for Bernie. The smear of Bernie is just gearing up now that he has established himself as frontrunner for nomination. I predict Dems (those who matter) will find a way to get rid of Bernie.

I gotta admit some of Bernie's dreams are tough to swallow but am with him all the way. I consider socialism to be sounder than capitalism. The idea that wealth and resources should be amicably shared without a Darwinin scramble is appealing. Also, strictly speaking what Bernie proposes is not economic socialism. All these welfares and free universal medical, tution, etc already exist in Sweden, UK, Denmark, Germany and literally all of Western Europe and Canada. "The West" is welfare world which is why people die in the ocean trying to get there. The US runaway capitalism and inequality is an outlier and a crying shame.

Yes, the truth is he won't pass more than one of them. Two if he's lucky. I just hope he fixes the immigration issue (dreamers) and gets a single payer govt health insurance scheme. If he's lucky, and that's a big if, he can get student debt cancellation and free tuition since that's relatively cheap, but healthcare and dreamers, IMO, are most pressing. The rest are just good to introduce into the political discourse but they won't get passed for a few years, maybe decades.

And yes, it's not socialism he's calling for: I don't know why he insisted on labeling himself with that word Democratic 'socialist', seeing as how it's a big scare word for the right and a big stick for the establishment. He should've been more shrewd and called his ideas sthing like 'humane capitalism', i.e. free markets coupled with a robust social safety net.

[Dear Mami]

Garliv of course has abhorrent, draconian conservative dogma. Prolly hates gay folks as much as does the Luo.

He reads like a person who treats the Left as a monolith. I can't blame him coz that used to be me too. I hated the excessive woke politics, but now I know better what the fights are really about. The Establishment Dems push woke politics because they're actually very right-wing on econ matters. They have no other way of looking 'not establishment' or even 'not Republican' besides identity politics--it gives them cover to pretend they have a 'small person' they're fighting for while keeping their billionaire sponsors safe from taxes. This is why their candidates don't offer voters anything besides, "Vote for me, I'm a woman/minority/gay." You see them now in their true colors because they're having to deal with bonafide left politics which is more class-based and pushing for bonafide change, much different than the identity games they replaced them with since the late 80s but mostly under the Clintons.

[Dear Mami]

Mami Mami, Just now wait and see how Leftist media aka mainstream media and pundits tear into Bernie. I just watched that he celebrated some fantasy to rape women and other issues.

They will probably call in SuperDelegates and it's Deja vu for Bernie. The smear of Bernie is just gearing up now that he has established himself as frontrunner for nomination. I predict Dems (those who matter) will find a way to get rid of Bernie.

I don't believe they will try that super delegates thing: it will end the party. If they can't sink Bernie's campaign through smears what they'll most likely do is let him have the nomination then weaken him with bad coverage so Trump wins. As I said be4, they've pretty much admitted they'd rather fight after Trump than let Bernie win this time. Their problem is they've been hyping their anti-Trump rubbish for 4 years straight and been pushing 'Vote Blue no matter what' on the base at the same time, so they have no credibility to say better Trump now. They'll do everything to stop Bernie but I have strong doubts they'll pull a blatant superdelegate robbery esp if Bernie maintains a big lead. It's even possible that he might get to the convention with an outright majority if Joe Biden doesn't win South Carolina.

[Nefertiti]

One may choose to be polygamous. They do not choose to be gay. It is "brainwashing" because you do not like it. Further most of Africa is still legally polygamous including Kenya.

Robina, yes am conservative by nature. I hate homosexuals. I cannot for the life of me understand why some Africans were brainwashed to believe polygamy is EVIL while being Homosexual is a some kind of Human Right. Totally unbelievable brainwashing.

And i don't hate Luos. I judge by character. I just hate Raila demagoguery. But i also realise that he has good points like being an excellent Opposition Leader when he means to. My professional partner since i opened offices is from Okoth Obado neighbourhood. 8 have interests in the Lakeside city. And all over i deal with Luos including chicks. We may disagree on political points but i cannot hate anyone just because they happen to be Luo.

[Garliv]

Don't tell me you believe in such pseudoscience that one is born gay? That there is genetic predisposition to be homosexual? This is a lifestyle choice. Most need psychiatric treatments and spiritual deliverance.
But in the West it has become more of in-thing to be this or that. Right now some mentally challenged people claim to be women when by all indicators they are male. That the distinction between Male and female is all in the mind. Crazy stuffs!
Like Theron claiming her boy is now a girl!

Hakuna biology. It's pure lunacy.

One may choose to be polygamous. They do not choose to be gay. It is "brainwashing" because you do not like it. Further most of Africa is still legally polygamous including Kenya.

[Nefertiti]

I said it : you're a radical, dogmatic conservative. I wonder if  you were born that way or consciously chose 

Don't tell me you believe in such pseudoscience that one is born gay? That there is genetic predisposition to be homosexual? This is a lifestyle choice. Most need psychiatric treatments and spiritual deliverance.
But in the West it has become more of in-thing to be this or that. Right now some mentally challenged people claim to be women when by all indicators they are male. That the distinction between Male and female is all in the mind. Crazy stuffs!
Like Theron claiming her boy is now a girl!

Hakuna biology. It's pure lunacy.

One may choose to be polygamous. They do not choose to be gay. It is "brainwashing" because you do not like it. Further most of Africa is still legally polygamous including Kenya.

[Dear Mami]

What's wrong with this site?

[Garliv]

I was once a Leftist leaning, socialist crackpot until I realized folly of accepting everything and everyone as equal. It's denial of reality. I can narrate all those woke/leftist crybaby theories and more.

So when I view something as bad/evil/satanic I  make my stand. If I consider something is reasonable I won't hesitate to be the only one standing by that. A world where there is no right or wrong: no evil or godliness is just a world of make believe. Of zombies (to borrow a word overused by Miguna Miguna).

I said it : you're a radical, dogmatic conservative. I wonder if  you were born that way or consciously chose 

[Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants]

White racists/nationalist is a label. But check the content of what Zerohedge.com publish. It's far better informative than Leftists/Woke media who according to Candace Owen they exploit "Low IQs of Dems....." with lies and outright fantastical fiction.

2. I was for Trump when Killery was Dem nominee. Still believe Orange Guy is far better better than Killery. With Hitlerly the world would have even experienced nuclear war. A total psychopath who even drone-killer King Obama feared.

3. For Russia i think you refer to when they intervened to save Syria from US sponsored Jihadists. Whuch5i supported and time has proved us correct. Check at southfront.org for progressive maps since Russia intervened to present. It's now Idlib province being cleansed of Jihadists as US and Turkey still support Jihadists. And of course Trump did away with PRETENSE of fighting ISIS and declared his work is to SECURE THE OIL. In short US never fight terrorism, it creates. So as to make it easier to steal other countries resources and wealth.

ZeroHedge is gutter. Complete with anonymous columnists. They have a tech blogger called "Tyler Durden" who unleashes on Tesla and SpaceX so often.

That is where white racists/nationalists  congregate. Their comments section is stormfront levels vitriol.

Garliv is Garlic on other nipate ? The notorious Trump ass kisser/russian troll.

Zero Hedge is conspiracy theory central.  We have been over this before.  Are you just going to keep posting the same stuff and pretend it's not?

[Garliv]

1. I do agree Establishment Dems hide behind identity politics to push their agenda. And that is the main problem with the Left in general. It's full of pretenders. Wolves among the sheeple.

2. We are in agreement that establishment Dems will do anything to sink Bernie. I see you don't anticipate Super delegates scenario. And all the while Dems party is talking about "compromise"...
We shall see how it ends.

3. My humble opinion is that among the Democrats no one candidate has a chance against Trump. None. Bernie happens to be the better option because he has committed hipsters, Marxist students, socialist anarchists and good dose of "minorities" behind him. Otherwise looks like US election will be like UK where Corbyn got a historic whipping primarily because of trying to please everyone (jews, Remainers, Brexiteers, Irish madmen, English rednecks and open borders bleeding Leftist). Major weakness with Left and liberals.

Trump lines and orientation are clear. No guesswork. He damn well present himself as he is. And that's a strong point.


https://www.rt.com/usa/481682-sanders-lawsuit-real-democrat/

Mami Mami, Just now wait and see how Leftist media aka mainstream media and pundits tear into Bernie. I just watched that he celebrated some fantasy to rape women and other issues.

They will probably call in SuperDelegates and it's Deja vu for Bernie. The smear of Bernie is just gearing up now that he has established himself as frontrunner for nomination. I predict Dems (those who matter) will find a way to get rid of Bernie.

I don't believe they will try that super delegates thing: it will end the party. If they can't sink Bernie's campaign through smears what they'll most likely do is let him have the nomination then weaken him with bad coverage so Trump wins. As I said be4, they've pretty much admitted they'd rather fight after Trump than let Bernie win this time. Their problem is they've been hyping their anti-Trump rubbish for 4 years straight and been pushing 'Vote Blue no matter what' on the base at the same time, so they have no credibility to say better Trump now. They'll do everything to stop Bernie but I have strong doubts they'll pull a blatant superdelegate robbery esp if Bernie maintains a big lead. It's even possible that he might get to the convention with an outright majority if Joe Biden doesn't win South Carolina.

[Garliv]

It doesn't become a conspiracy theory central just because you say so. I do open their link everyday when possible. I go there for detailed articles and reporting which mainstream can't or won't cover or just twist facts. I don't go there for people's comment.
And no, i don't believe everything they write or claim. But overall it's good source for info in areas which interests me. And no, I don't read about Tesla cause it hasn't interested me yet.

Zero Hedge is conspiracy theory central.  We have been over this before.  Are you just going to keep posting the same stuff and pretend it's not?

[Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants]

Garliv of course has abhorrent, draconian conservative dogma. Prolly hates gay folks as much as does the Luo.

He reads like a person who treats the Left as a monolith. I can't blame him coz that used to be me too. I hated the excessive woke politics, but now I know better what the fights are really about. The Establishment Dems push woke politics because they're actually very right-wing on econ matters. They have no other way of looking 'not establishment' or even 'not Republican' besides identity politics--it gives them cover to pretend they have a 'small person' they're fighting for while keeping their billionaire sponsors safe from taxes. This is why their candidates don't offer voters anything besides, "Vote for me, I'm a woman/minority/gay." You see them now in their true colors because they're having to deal with bonafide left politics which is more class-based and pushing for bonafide change, much different than the identity games they replaced them with since the late 80s but mostly under the Clintons.

It's a survival reflex.  While Dems are the party of diversity, they still need the independents to win.  Independents unfortunately need the reassurance that shit is not being given away to minorities for free.

IMO the problem with Bernie:

He needs Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, Florida(but any three of those should see him through).  Pennsylvania and the Mid-Western states are where Trump essentially broke through with squeakers on the backs of voter suppression and poor turn-out in the Philly, Detroit, Milwaukee areas(there is a lot of black in there) and loses in Western Pennsylvania.  Other than that, I still think these are states for Dems to lose.

My basic thinking is Biden would do a better job rectifying this result than Bernie because he appeals to those same demographics that cost Hillary these states.  I am open to the possibility of that changing given that it's still early days.  The next set of Primaries should be decisive and if Dems are wise, they should line up behind whoever comes out in front after Super Tuesday whether he spouts Sandinista propaganda or wine cave narratives.

[Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants]

It doesn't become a conspiracy theory central just because you say so. I do open their link everyday when possible. I go there for detailed articles and reporting which mainstream can't or won't cover or just twist facts. I don't go there for people's comment.
And no, i don't believe everything they write or claim. But overall it's good source for info in areas which interests me. And no, I don't read about Tesla cause it hasn't interested me yet.

Zero Hedge is conspiracy theory central.  We have been over this before.  Are you just going to keep posting the same stuff and pretend it's not?

I don't know if you just enjoy being misinformed.  Some people do.  If that's your shtick, then more power to you.



https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/zero-hedge/

[Garliv]

And still you believe that website? Website that transparently endeavor to smear alternative sources of information so that the sheeple are kept mainstreamed? Why don't you believe Wikipedia then? Stick to CNN then. Am sure right now they blaming some Russians for helping Bernie. And you will believe it!

Just believe am a  Russian Bot, then we should be fine.

It doesn't become a conspiracy theory central just because you say so. I do open their link everyday when possible. I go there for detailed articles and reporting which mainstream can't or won't cover or just twist facts. I don't go there for people's comment.
And no, i don't believe everything they write or claim. But overall it's good source for info in areas which interests me. And no, I don't read about Tesla cause it hasn't interested me yet.

Zero Hedge is conspiracy theory central.  We have been over this before.  Are you just going to keep posting the same stuff and pretend it's not?

I don't know if you just enjoy being misinformed.  Some people do.  If that's your shtick, then more power to you.



https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/zero-hedge/

[Nefertiti]

He reads like a person who treats the Left as a monolith. I can't blame him coz that used to be me too. I hated the excessive woke politics, but now I know better what the fights are really about. The Establishment Dems push woke politics because they're actually very right-wing on econ matters. They have no other way of looking 'not establishment' or even 'not Republican' besides identity politics--it gives them cover to pretend they have a 'small person' they're fighting for while keeping their billionaire sponsors safe from taxes. This is why their candidates don't offer voters anything besides, "Vote for me, I'm a woman/minority/gay." You see them now in their true colors because they're having to deal with bonafide left politics which is more class-based and pushing for bonafide change, much different than the identity games they replaced them with since the late 80s but mostly under the Clintons.

Yes. Identity is western tribalism. Bernie has capacity to drain the real swamp of the rich. I don't think the Dems can play the Super Delegate card for fear of a rebellion.

Oh. Garliv is more radical than you credit him. He is an alt-Right nutcase. His attitude says it all.

[Dear Mami]

The DNC trying to rig the SC primary. How can two polls show a narrow gap (and closing) btw Biden and Bernie, both in the 20%s, and then suddenly, a poll (from the same period) showing Biden still at 35% and Bernie 13% like the last two weeks didn't happen? Smh. I hope they don't pull some Iowa repeat nonsense on Saturday.