China has to pay for this - I hope Trump hold them to account

[RV Pundit]

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He has global support. Chinese have to take responsibility for this.

Kenya should tell China to write off all their loans.

China has to start behaving like a rich country - take responsibility.

[RV Kirgit]

What if China were set up?

No one really know precisely the exact source of virus.... Could be the US or any other state, corporation or individuals who want to benefit from chaos!

[Wa Njambi]

China is a slum economy.

He has global support. Chinese have to take responsibility for this.

Kenya should tell China to write off all their loans.

China has to start behaving like a rich country - take responsibility.

[KenyanPlato]

China is dangerous. They need an accountable govt. A govt that is not that inept and corrupt

[patel]

Kenyans trying to be clever...ati sgr freeeeeee of charge..let me laugh at that joke again....deni lazima mlipe, mpende msipende. You will be luck if Chinese give some grace period. Unless there was some Corona clause in those Chinese debt you must pay. Let uhuru figure out where he will get the money.

He has global support. Chinese have to take responsibility for this.

Kenya should tell China to write off all their loans.

China has to start behaving like a rich country - take responsibility.

[RV Kirgit]

Kenyans trying to be clever...ati sgr freeeeeee of charge..let me laugh at that joke again....deni lazima mlipe, mpende msipende. You will be luck if Chinese give some grace period. Unless there was some Corona clause in those Chinese debt you must pay. Let uhuru figure out where he will get the money.

He has global support. Chinese have to take responsibility for this.

Kenya should tell China to write off all their loans.

China has to start behaving like a rich country - take responsibility.

The best we can get from china will be free vaccines lol

Chinese are setting up 82 storey china CDC branch in nairobi. I think it will be USAID version of chinaman!
https://nairobinews.nation.co.ke/news/china-to-fund-sh8bn-africa-cdc-in-kenya

[Kadudu]

Ati China should pay. For what?
Forget even asking for loan reschedules. As of SGR Kenya signed that any court resolution will be settled under Chinese laws. Case is closed even before it is opened. Our leaders only looked at their cut in the deal and forgot to read the finer details. Most likely KPA was offered to the Chinese as guaranty for the loan.

[RV Pundit]

They should pay for causing corona and hiding facts from WHO. I think if there is global consensus - they can be paid to spend their trillion dollars.

Ati China should pay. For what?
Forget even asking for loan reschedules. As of SGR Kenya signed that any court resolution will be settled under Chinese laws. Case is closed even before it is opened. Our leaders only looked at their cut in the deal and forgot to read the finer details. Most likely KPA was offered to the Chinese as guaranty for the loan.

[Nefertiti]

There is usually force majeure clause in the contracts. For earthquakes and coronas. China is rather magnanimous for all those demonizing them here. Accidents happen. The US is suffering principally due to Trump denialism where everything is Chinese conspiracy. I still think this was a pure lab accident in Wuhan - and the Chinese will resurrect stronger and faster than the West. Thanks to Xi draconian lockdowns and the communist (read sheeple) culture of 100% compliance.

[RV Pundit]

Considering they have 2 trillion plus dollars savings - they should shoulder the biggest responsibility. Why should poor countries have to suffer this?

There is usually force majeure clause in the contracts. For earthquakes and coronas. China is rather magnanimous for all those demonizing them here. Accidents happen. The US is suffering principally due to Trump denialism where everything is Chinese conspiracy. I still think this was a pure lab accident in Wuhan - and the Chinese will resurrect stronger and faster than the West. Thanks to Xi draconian lockdowns and the communist (read sheeple) culture of 100% compliance.

[veritas]

Why would China plant a virus in their own backyard? This is biowarfare perpetrated by America but it looks like it went out of hand.

[Nefertiti]

Why would China plant a virus in their own backyard? This is biowarfare perpetrated by America but it looks like it went out of hand.

I don't believe this - for the same reason you pose: how do you use a VIRUS as bioweapon? That's suicidal as it would spring back at you as is happening now.

[Nefertiti]

I see your point but where is the precedent? Germany and the Japs did not shoulder the holocaust losses. If this was a bioweapon accusations would be flying about furiously. Instead Xi is mocking Trump - who snidely called it Chinese virus - by offering to help. Worst part Trump unlike say Obama couldn't care less about "shithole countries" - he probably wishes they would be wiped out. The west is more likely to push for reparations for likes of Italy, Spain and Britan - the latter has both the PM and the Crown Prince infected. Mzungu will not cry for Mwafrika especially with the disproportionate deathcount in Europe and US.

This is very unlikely to happen.

Considering they have 2 trillion plus dollars savings - they should shoulder the biggest responsibility. Why should poor countries have to suffer this?

[RV Pundit]

German and Japan did. German paid for first world war and then second world war.

I see your point but where is the precedent? Germany and the Japs did not shoulder the holocaust losses. If this was a bioweapon accusations would be flying about furiously. Instead Xi is mocking Trump - who snidely called it Chinese virus - by offering to help. Worst part Trump unlike say Obama couldn't care less about "shithole countries" - he probably wishes they would be wiped out. The west is more likely to push for reparations for likes of Italy, Spain and Britan - the latter has both the PM and the Crown Prince infected. Mzungu will not cry for Mwafrika especially with the disproportionate deathcount in Europe and US.

This is very unlikely to happen.

Considering they have 2 trillion plus dollars savings - they should shoulder the biggest responsibility. Why should poor countries have to suffer this?

[Nefertiti]

This is where Chinese communist model shine. Xi merely ordered everyone to stay indoors and they obeyed. Trump has had to invoke some War War I law - Defence Production Act - to get likes of GM to play ball and produce ventilators.

[Nefertiti]

Germany was bankrupt and US/IMF did the heavy lifting. They merely went pacific like Japan for a few years. Now they have a big modern army.

German and Japan did. German paid for first world war and then second world war.

I see your point but where is the precedent? Germany and the Japs did not shoulder the holocaust losses. If this was a bioweapon accusations would be flying about furiously. Instead Xi is mocking Trump - who snidely called it Chinese virus - by offering to help. Worst part Trump unlike say Obama couldn't care less about "shithole countries" - he probably wishes they would be wiped out. The west is more likely to push for reparations for likes of Italy, Spain and Britan - the latter has both the PM and the Crown Prince infected. Mzungu will not cry for Mwafrika especially with the disproportionate deathcount in Europe and US.

This is very unlikely to happen.

Considering they have 2 trillion plus dollars savings - they should shoulder the biggest responsibility. Why should poor countries have to suffer this?

[Georgesoros]

They made everything political, even public health, so everyone is now paying for these Chinese retards...
They want to portray a good image even though they stink..

[Garliv]

Now its time for Garliv's Conspiracy ramblings...

That Coronavirus is a biological weapon started as "conspiracy theory" with those alleging so being labeled as usual nutjobs. But the issue didn't die and Chinese government (through statements made by its officials) accused the US Military of "bringing Coronavirus" into Wuhan. At that time it seemed that the virus will be contained within China and surrounding region like previous SARS and therefore Americans were deriding Chinese for "hiding full scope of the virus.." "hiding true numbers of infected and deaths" which was of course designed to erode Communist Party stand within China. All manners of "leaked" stories from some Chinese "students, or researchers or military men" started doing round on social media labelling China's Government story on the virus as not believable.

Then Coronavirus hit Europe and its presence in the US started. Trump then labelled the virus as "Chinese virus" and with the usual split in American chaotic politics some like CNN and Democrats labelled Trump as racist. But when they all grasped  "seriousness" of  the situation, they then try to portray China as the source of the virus and this time the nuance/innuendo that China did it deliberately; To cripple America and be the leader in "helping" to solve the problem but also to enhance itself economically.

Undeniable facts are that the US has the most advanced Chemical and Biological Weapons plus research in the world. It is also undeniably the country which has used Chemical and Biological weapons on others than any other other. It has even experimented on its own citizens as guinea pigs. I know most anglophile and Americanised Africans have problems believing that US government can be evil but facts are facts.

https://www.globalresearch.ca/the-bush-administration-s-secret-biowarfare-agenda/9685

To this Coronavirus. THE PIRBRIGHT INSTITUTE (funded by Wellcome Trust, Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, EU & DARPA) was awarded A US PATENT FOR CORONAVIRUS in 2018 which they had applied in 2015 when Bill Gates was warning about a Global Pandemic (he was not specific about Corona). This is not conspiracy but fact easily verifiable from US patent office or their online database. DARPA is of course US Military Agency specifically dealing with advanced research of almost all aspects primarily for military consumption.   Bill & Melinda Gates and their foundation are well known for advocating population control through "improved vaccinations and improved health care services.." so as, among other things, reduce carbon emission. How one can "reduce population growth between 10% to 15%" through improved health care services and vaccination is a mystery to me. Because with improved health services and vaccinations expectations are that population would ACTUALLY INCREASE/GROW as less people would die of health problems and they would live longer.  Anyhow that aside. In October 2019 just before coronavirus hit China, Event 201 (at John Hopkins Bloomberg School of Health (Centre for Health Security) as RVKirgit posted was staged; funded by Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation. Isn't John Hopkins NOW being quoted as authority of those infected and those dead of Coronavirus?

Pirbright Institute has been chosen to create the vaccine behind this coronavirus outbreak. They will partner with Inovio Pharmaceuticals and Wistar Institute also ALL generously funded by Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation. It is safe to say Bill & Melinda will be behind any upcoming vaccine or whichever vaccine is ready. It would be a requirement for each individual and all  newborns to have coronavirus vaccine especially after all the hysteria borne of fear spread by mainline media, celebrities, NGOs, politicians and others.   

Maybe all these obsessions with getting a VACCINE FIRST and ignoring or downplaying supposedly cheaper "cures" for coronavirus aren't just coincidences. It is a game all playing out according to some script; and that script isn't Chinese at all. It is American to the core plus media hype and brainwashing. China has no such media capability.
This Pepe Escobar article give insights into how the French Government is deliberately and willingly downplaying the effectiveness of cheaper  and effective Chloroquine drugs. He provides links and anyone can research on veracity of what he says took place.

https://www.unz.com/pescobar/why-france-is-hiding-a-cheap-and-tested-virus-cure/  (Btw, this isn't the only source that Big Pharma in conjunction with corrupt government decision-makers  are deliberately suppressing research/reports and administration of cheap drugs as they wait to deliver their more costly drugs)

Therefore if anyone is "to pay for coronavirus", Bill Gates and US DARPA should first answer/clarify some really interesting coincidences.

 

[Garliv]

Context is always very important. What is forgotten in the current wailings is that Chinese and their nearby neighbours have perfected the issue of Quarantine. Remember they have had SARS, H1N1 and whatever. They piloted quarantine as solution to contain and what China did in Wuhan and other places is a reflection of that.
Japan a population of 126million reported its first case in early January. They have not locked down the whole country. They quarantined some of those infected. They have had 52 deaths. Italy has been locked for a while but reports are deaths from coronavirus are mounting. South Korea too did not lock down whole country.

Asian countries have had some prior experience.  And locking down whether willingly or by force is not and will not be the solution. Kenya in another week or less will experience social unrest. Wait for it.

This is where Chinese communist model shine. Xi merely ordered everyone to stay indoors and they obeyed. Trump has had to invoke some War War I law - Defence Production Act - to get likes of GM to play ball and produce ventilators.

[Nefertiti]

Garliv that's true. Your first case was a week ago - so 14 days incubation is next week when the outbreak will become apparent. But I don't expect mzungu crazy numbers of 000's dead. Maybe the hunger situation will exacerbate things - poor folks will pick corona over starvation. Kagame is feeding folks door to door - can Uhuru manage?