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Re: The Mother of All SpreadSheet (MOASS) - 2022 Kenya Election - thread.
« Reply #220 on: March 27, 2022, 04:54:49 PM »
MOASS track record speaks for itself...

Only 2007 which was rigged didnt follow MOASS - the rest did. I had predicted a Raila win of 48 percent against Kibaki 43 percent. Kibaki rigged it to become 46 percent against 44 percent.

I predicted 2010 referendum - as 33 versus 67 -  it came to 31.45 versus 68.6 percent. Most here were shouting Ruto will only get Kalenjin 13 percent - and would barely go past 20 percent. He did extremely well especially in Ukambani - where Nos beat the Yes.

I predicted 2013 as Uhuru win in 1st round of  52 versus 45 percent - it was 51 percent versus 43 percent for Raila. Most here were waiting for a re-run. I told them Uhuru nick in 1st round.

I predicted 2017 A as Uhuru wins of 53 versus 46 - it became 54 versus 45. Again the hopeless folks were hoping MaDVD would be the magic to take Raila plus 0.5M - to beating Uhuru. I told them Ruto had made lots of gains in NASA zones that would cancel maDVD 0.5M addition votes. Raila improved by 2 percent - Jubilee improved by 3 percent.

I predicted 2017 B as Uhuru win of 98 with Raila beating Turkana boy despite not running - it was exactly that.

2022 as of now we have a familiar  52-53 versus 46-47 percent. The familiar story of Raila perennial loss - he makes gains here - and takes losses there - end of day - he is stuck in no mans land. Too near yet too far from power.

MOAS margin of error as you can see is 1 percent.

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Re: The Mother of All SpreadSheet (MOASS) - 2022 Kenya Election - thread.
« Reply #221 on: March 29, 2022, 11:22:38 AM »

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Re: The Mother of All SpreadSheet (MOASS) - 2022 Kenya Election - thread.
« Reply #222 on: March 29, 2022, 11:23:36 AM »
Charles Horby explain his numbers
https://www.theelephant.info/op-eds/2022/03/28/predicting-winners-and-losers-in-the-august-2022-poll-the-numbers-game/

8.3M with 51 percent for Ruto - MOAS has Ruto at 52 percent at 8.5m
8 million with 49 percent for Raila  - MOAS has Raila at 47 percent with 7.5m

I think Charles well thought out model main problem is not factoring other useless candidates who will take 1 percent off.
I think we maybe differ on the turnout....

Again the big assumption is Raila scores 31 percent - versus 71 percent for Ruto - IN GEMA - in Charles - and mine is about the same - predicting about same 30-70 percent.

But evidence so far suggest Raila is taking water in Mt kenya and it's become even more slippery. But there is still expectation that Uhuru and Mama Ngina will make the money work - and somehow turn the tide.

Generally stuff to watch
1) Running mate
2) GEMA
3) Ukambani
4) Luhyas.

Read more here....

https://www.theelephant.info/op-eds/2022/03/28/predicting-winners-and-losers-in-the-august-2022-poll-the-numbers-game/https://www.theelephant.info/op-eds/2022/03/28/predicting-winners-and-losers-in-the-august-2022-poll-the-numbers-game/
The Elephant - Speaking truth to power.

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Re: The Mother of All SpreadSheet (MOASS) - 2022 Kenya Election - thread.
« Reply #223 on: March 31, 2022, 06:17:08 PM »
Elijah K Samuel has done it again - predict 71 percent turnouthttps://datastudio.google.com/s/i5CrREhrycE


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Re: The Mother of All SpreadSheet (MOASS) - 2022 Kenya Election - thread.
« Reply #224 on: April 01, 2022, 12:34:42 AM »
In this article githongo quotes 30% undecided based on pollsters or "experts" is the group that you think will not vote or is shy to say who they support?

I just talked to several old people who have voted since independence and most won't be voting in 2022. So there is going to be real voter apathy.
https://www.theelephant.info/op-eds/2022/03/11/2022-kenyas-first-ever-election-about-nothing/

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« Reply #225 on: April 01, 2022, 05:55:21 AM »
Most undecided are in GEMA and Ukambani. With BBI out, and with coalition deadline on the 10th - things will become clearer - but definitely without a strong GEMA candidate - GEMA will not mobilize and will vote like in 2002 - with low turnout - when it was kibaki versus Uhuru - I think turnout in GEMA was 60 percent or about.

Unless Uhuru continues to really make people angry - creating hustler/dynasty pent up anger - I dont see GEMA turnout in unusual numbers.

In this article githongo quotes 30% undecided based on pollsters or "experts" is the group that you think will not vote or is shy to say who they support?

I just talked to several old people who have voted since independence and most won't be voting in 2022. So there is going to be real voter apathy.
https://www.theelephant.info/op-eds/2022/03/11/2022-kenyas-first-ever-election-about-nothing/


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Re: The Mother of All SpreadSheet (MOASS) - 2022 Kenya Election - thread.
« Reply #226 on: April 02, 2022, 05:16:17 PM »
Look like UDA doing well in Tana River - with Mungata and Hussein dado leading in opinion polls. They swapped governor - with current governor aligned to Azimio leading - former governor running on UDA.


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Re: The Mother of All SpreadSheet (MOASS) - 2022 Kenya Election - thread.
« Reply #227 on: April 03, 2022, 08:16:20 AM »
Narok UDA will carry the day


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Re: The Mother of All SpreadSheet (MOASS) - 2022 Kenya Election - thread.
« Reply #228 on: April 03, 2022, 06:54:10 PM »
Meru Update:-

I had generously given Raila 45 percent in MERU - on the strength of Kiraitu+Munya combo.

But now with Kiraitu looking like I am out  of Azimio - and with Munya chance of DPORK increasingly looking gone - Meru will move to UDA at 70 percent plus.

GEMA right now is firming towards Ruto  (Now 80-85:15-20)- but until we see UDA nomination fallout - and Uhuru full gameplan - 70 percent  is good number to err on the side of caution.

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« Reply #229 on: April 05, 2022, 08:41:31 AM »
TV Opinion poll - KTN 3 days of polling - in Dedan Kimathi university Nyeri - 70% for Ruto - 26% for Raila. I am not sure of the demographic of students - but I imagine majority of Mt kenya.

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Re: The Mother of All SpreadSheet (MOASS) - 2022 Kenya Election - thread.
« Reply #230 on: April 06, 2022, 01:31:18 AM »
I don't know where people are getting this low turnout bullshit from. August second Tuesday is a holiday. It is a ritual.
Without the ink on your damn finger you are like an outcast. It can even break your business.

For the village folks, it is entertainment of a decade. Those who keep running the myth of Mt Kenya low turnout are just bonkers. What do you do for a whole day??

What I have never understood is the low turnout in 2002 despite the rainbow fever. Even lower than 97? Had Moi/ufool been so succesful in voter suppression or people believed Moi was invicincible?

 
Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one ~ Thomas Paine

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Re: The Mother of All SpreadSheet (MOASS) - 2022 Kenya Election - thread.
« Reply #231 on: April 06, 2022, 01:50:24 AM »
At KUCCP it is largely grades and course choices. So any university is a good sample for 18-24 years, college educated population, even with deep state influence among student leadership.
 
TV Opinion poll - KTN 3 days of polling - in Dedan Kimathi university Nyeri - 70% for Ruto - 26% for Raila. I am not sure of the demographic of students - but I imagine majority of Mt kenya.
Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one ~ Thomas Paine

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« Reply #232 on: April 06, 2022, 07:40:05 AM »
Yes most people will turn up - we shall have maybe 75 percent turnout - but there few issues that will see low turnout
1) 2013 - was entirely new register - this one has a million dead people - about 200k dead each year registered and another 200K plus unregistered. Let see if kPMG will remove the dead - iebc doesnt have reliable way to remove the dead.
2) GEMA - wont be any extra push to get everyone to vote - there wont be stronghold rigging - a little padding of the votes here and there.
So generally there will be slightly drop in turnout - because of the dead voters - and secondly because this election doesnt look that polarizing - it appears to many it's choice btw TWO RS. The voters are almost evenly split in most regions except their strongholds.

I don't know where people are getting this low turnout bullshit from. August second Tuesday is a holiday. It is a ritual.
Without the ink on your damn finger you are like an outcast. It can even break your business.

For the village folks, it is entertainment of a decade. Those who keep running the myth of Mt Kenya low turnout are just bonkers. What do you do for a whole day??

What I have never understood is the low turnout in 2002 despite the rainbow fever. Even lower than 97? Had Moi/ufool been so succesful in voter suppression or people believed Moi was invicincible?

 

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« Reply #233 on: April 06, 2022, 07:41:07 AM »
Privately sponsored generally come from the homeground as it cheaper for them.
At KUCCP it is largely grades and course choices. So any university is a good sample for 18-24 years, college educated population, even with deep state influence among student leadership.
 
TV Opinion poll - KTN 3 days of polling - in Dedan Kimathi university Nyeri - 70% for Ruto - 26% for Raila. I am not sure of the demographic of students - but I imagine majority of Mt kenya.

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Re: The Mother of All SpreadSheet (MOASS) - 2022 Kenya Election - thread.
« Reply #234 on: April 08, 2022, 04:44:23 PM »
Mizani have stopped releasing presidential contest but we have governors and senates

LAMU - ANC former governor look set to recapture

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FP0vpF3XoAU6PNl?format=jpg&name=small

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« Reply #235 on: April 08, 2022, 04:45:44 PM »
Meanwhile in Laikipia - Kibaki Nephew Muriithi set to go home - and former governor in UDA set to win.

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« Reply #236 on: April 08, 2022, 04:46:40 PM »
The senator - guy who likes speaking swahili - set to retain

Meanwhile Waruguru and Kiunjuru will be beaten blue by Somali

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FP0qlYYWUAUANch?format=jpg&name=small

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Re: The Mother of All SpreadSheet (MOASS) - 2022 Kenya Election - thread.
« Reply #237 on: April 11, 2022, 10:55:40 AM »
Mandera look like Jubilee zone

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Re: The Mother of All SpreadSheet (MOASS) - 2022 Kenya Election - thread.
« Reply #238 on: April 11, 2022, 11:00:27 AM »

This is a zone where Ruto should focus on . In 2013 it made Uhuru President.
Ruto should put as twice energy there to prevent it being used by Kuzimia to stuff ballots or let Imigrants vote.

Mandera look like Jubilee zone


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« Reply #239 on: April 11, 2022, 11:38:13 AM »
Yes nep is where monkey games are done..Ruto has trusted duale but he needs hand on strategy there...to detect fake polling stations and ballot stuffing