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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: RV Pundit on September 05, 2017, 04:16:56 PM
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Former Meru governor Join NASA as six principal
https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/ureport/story/2001253552/kenyans-reactions-after-pnu-chair-peter-munya-says-he-will-support-raila-odinga-presidency
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ODM Bungoma Gubernatorial candidate Alfred Khangati, Vihiga Gubernatorial Candidate Moses Akaranga and Presidential Candidate Cyrus Shakhalaga Khwa Jirongo to support UhuRuto. Also in attendance were Senate Speaker Ken Lusaka, Former Speaker Kenneth Marende, Ababu Namwamba, Musikari Kombo, Fred Gumo, Mary Emase, Reginalda Wanyonyi, Ben Washiali, Noah Wekesa, Trans Nzoia Women Rep winner Janet Nangabo Wanyama, Trans Nzoia Senatorial winner Michael Maling'a Mbito and Dan Wanyama of Webuye West.
President Uhuru Kenyatta and his Deputy
William Samoei Ruto met a delegation of Western leaders at State House, Nairobi. They agreed to campaign at the grassroots together and retain our victory in the October 17 re-election. Thanked the people of Western for their support in last month’s polls
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Isaac Ruto - wishy-washy interview
https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/article/2001253577/i-will-not-join-jubilee-vows-former-bomet-governor-isaac-ruto
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Musuni Taimpati and Patrick Ntutu who both lost to Tunai in Narok ditch Raila for Uhuru
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Broke Khawale - (overheard this somewhere) - ran to Jubilee
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Not seeing Otuoma but I think he is part of defecting western gang to Jubilee - who will face the MaDVD/Wetangula/Governors of western.
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See old cow Gumo is in Jubilee... while Raila gave him CS post. Jubilee is a cash cow.
Otuoma and Okemo have gone jubilee
https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/article/2001253403/uhuru-vows-to-fix-court-after-poll
Musila already went Jubilee. Look out for Mutua and Ngilu. Possibly Nyenze.
Expect Karua to return NASA.
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Yeap it question of who has realistic chance - for the losers - and it obvious Uhuru has. This will be nightmarish for Raila. He might decide to go for NUSU mkate by trying to intimidate Chebukati not to hold the election.
I am keenly watching NASA elected governors - someone like Granton Samboja with his dodgy degrees is probably going to Jubilee...NANOK is also just onto governor seat and seem fix - if he support NASA - he'll be kicked out of Governors Council -
And on a serious note - how does Raila intend to governor withous parliament, senate, mcas and governors? It's not practical.
See old cow Gumo is in Jubilee... while Raila gave him CS post. Jubilee is a cash cow.
Otuoma and Okemo have gone jubilee
https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/article/2001253403/uhuru-vows-to-fix-court-after-poll
Musila already went Jubilee. Look out for Mutua and Ngilu. Possibly Nyenze.
Expect Karua to return NASA.
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I want to see how he will go about Kisii. He's already said his beef is with Maraga not Kisii.
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Jubile can keep both Otuoma and Gumo. Namwamba too.
BTW all the three have serious graft cases against them
See old cow Gumo is in Jubilee... while Raila gave him CS post. Jubilee is a cash cow.
Otuoma and Okemo have gone jubilee
https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/article/2001253403/uhuru-vows-to-fix-court-after-poll
Musila already went Jubilee. Look out for Mutua and Ngilu. Possibly Nyenze.
Expect Karua to return NASA.
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What will Uhuru offer that Raila can't offer? Plum jobs?
Yeap it question of who has realistic chance - for the losers - and it obvious Uhuru has. This will be nightmarish for Raila. He might decide to go for NUSU mkate by trying to intimidate Chebukati not to hold the election.
I am keenly watching NASA elected governors - someone like Granton Samboja with his dodgy degrees is probably going to Jubilee...NANOK is also just onto governor seat and seem fix - if he support NASA - he'll be kicked out of Governors Council -
And on a serious note - how does Raila intend to governor withous parliament, senate, mcas and governors? It's not practical.
See old cow Gumo is in Jubilee... while Raila gave him CS post. Jubilee is a cash cow.
Otuoma and Okemo have gone jubilee
https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/article/2001253403/uhuru-vows-to-fix-court-after-poll
Musila already went Jubilee. Look out for Mutua and Ngilu. Possibly Nyenze.
Expect Karua to return NASA.
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First he need to show a path to victory. He already lost by 11% and 1.4M votes. He has no parliament or senate to appoint anyone. He has no governors or mcas . In short Raila leverage is very limited.
What will Uhuru offer that Raila can't offer? Plum jobs?
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Independent and small paries mps are also folks to watch.
https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/article/2001253694/jubilee-party-courts-leaders-from-nasa-strongholds-in-new-strategy
"We already have Bumula MP Mwambu Mabonga, an independent from Bungoma County, on our side. He was present at the State House meeting. We are in talks with other independent MPs as we do not want to leave anything to chance," he told The Standard by phone.
Read more at: https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/article/2001253694/jubilee-party-courts-leaders-from-nasa-strongholds-in-new-strategy
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Lol. This time messing around with exercise books and a movie will be more uncomfortable so Jubilee's new strategy is to actually win support in Western. InDresting! :D
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Otuoma
https://citizentv.co.ke/news/otuoma-dumps-raila-for-uhuru-ahead-of-october-rerun-174644/
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Dida backs Raila
https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/article/2001253484/raila-odinga-will-beat-president-uhuru-kenyatta-in-presidential-election-says-dida
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This elections will be held on October 17th and nobody has won it yet.
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This elections will be held on October 17th and nobody has won it yet.
I don't recall anybody contesting the date. The thread is about alignments and this tweet has no other motive outside passing this information.
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Is there a more promiscuous less principled political slut than this guy? Jirongo perhaps? Ngilu?
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Windy it always amusing reading how you somehow divide our politicians into good or bad when everyone knows the whole lot are equally rotten
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To be fair, I think you can plot them on a scale of 1 to 10 where 1 is completely rotten and 10 is the least rotten.
Windy it always amusing reading how you somehow divide our politicians into good or bad when everyone knows the whole lot are equally rotten
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Is there a more promiscuous less principled political slut than this guy? Jirongo perhaps? Ngilu?
Principles don't pay bills; negro ain't dead yet, cut him some slack he has his mouth among other bills to tend to.
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Windy it always amusing reading how you somehow divide our politicians into good or bad when everyone knows the whole lot are equally rotten
As long as they are NASWA/pro-Babu, they are largely clean. Nobody in Jubilee is clean~ 50 Shades of Windsock
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Windy it always amusing reading how you somehow divide our politicians into good or bad when everyone knows the whole lot are equally rotten
Do I think NASA are different than jubilants? No. They might even be worse. But they would assume office with the pressure of knowing that there is no guarantee that they will get back in power after five years. That is an important thought that needs to linger over these guys throughout their terms.
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Windy it always amusing reading how you somehow divide our politicians into good or bad when everyone knows the whole lot are equally rotten
Do I think NASA are different than jubilants? No. They might even be worse. But they would assume office with the pressure of knowing that there is no guarantee that they will get back in power after five years. That is an important thought that needs to linger over these guys throughout their terms.
None of you will ever convince me that Raila is anywhere near as bad as the others, however fashionable that becomes. I have more than enough proof of not only his basic good will but the benefits we have had as a country through his political activities and the fact that he desires a legacy and not just raw power and ndururu. With the rest, I don't care. But for him, I am convinced he has been far more a plus for this country than any of the other goons in all our politics and by far. I'd be dumb to expect much from his buddies but from him, I am confidently expecting the maturing of our institutionalism and democratization and I ain't ashamed to say so.
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Windy it always amusing reading how you somehow divide our politicians into good or bad when everyone knows the whole lot are equally rotten
Do I think NASA are different than jubilants? No. They might even be worse. But they would assume office with the pressure of knowing that there is no guarantee that they will get back in power after five years. That is an important thought that needs to linger over these guys throughout their terms.
None of you will ever convince me that Raila is anywhere as bad as the others, however fashionable that becomes. I have more than enough proof of not only his basic good will but the benefits we have had as a country through his political activities and the fact that he desires a legacy and not just raw power and ndururu. With the rest, I don't care. But for him, I am convinced he has been far more a plus for this country than any of the other goons in all our politics and by far. I'd be dumb to expect much from his buddies but from him, I am confidently expecting the maturing of our institutionalism and democratization and I ain't ashamed to say so.
I agree that his impact has been more positive than negative. In fact he is probably the only thing standing between a viable democracy and a Museveni-like autocracy. Take him off the scene, and I can see a good chunk of the so-called opposition getting swallowed up because there are enough opportunities to eat for "everyone". I totally agree in that respect.
But Raila has some tendencies that make me doubt if he would make a different type of leader. As PM, Caroli was known to be rotten. Miguna Miguna brought it up and apparently was shown the door. His nepotism is an open secret. He may not be in the league of the hustler or kamwana in sheer criminality, but he still needs someone to keep tabs on him.
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It is indeed fashionable to say our politicians are all crooks. I believe one person at the helm can change the trajectory of a country, a corporation, an institution or a school. I remember Mr. Wanjoi very well. He came to my primary school and changed everything for the better,-same teachers, same students, same parents. Maraga changed the court. I also believe that a Raila presidency will change the corruption trajectory of this country and reduce tribalism, and increase the democratic space. Kenya seriously need the change from the same people who have ran it since independence to present. Just look at the impact of Raila on our constitution and the electoral system. If this electoral system survives and makes Kenya better, we will have Raila to thank even if he never becomes president. Raila has made more progressive changes to Kenya as an opposition politician and I dare say that his influence on the government would be huge if he were to be the president.
Windy it always amusing reading how you somehow divide our politicians into good or bad when everyone knows the whole lot are equally rotten
Do I think NASA are different than jubilants? No. They might even be worse. But they would assume office with the pressure of knowing that there is no guarantee that they will get back in power after five years. That is an important thought that needs to linger over these guys throughout their terms.
None of you will ever convince me that Raila is anywhere as bad as the others, however fashionable that becomes. I have more than enough proof of not only his basic good will but the benefits we have had as a country through his political activities and the fact that he desires a legacy and not just raw power and ndururu. With the rest, I don't care. But for him, I am convinced he has been far more a plus for this country than any of the other goons in all our politics and by far. I'd be dumb to expect much from his buddies but from him, I am confidently expecting the maturing of our institutionalism and democratization and I ain't ashamed to say so.
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I think Raila would screw things so badly this country will go under.Raila lacks wisdom and appreciation of the complexities of management of national affairs..will plunge kenya and the region to Idi Amin turbulence.Kenyans are wise and have rejected him.Unhinged dictator with a huge axe to grind.
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I don't think it is 100% possible to predict what one might do with power. That is why we say to test a man's character give him power.
Raila would try socialism - free education, healthcare, etc - welfare and entitlements. Raila is liberal to the core even socially. So expect abortion, gay rights and such. I don't see big axe to grind with Gema or RV - his enemies Moi and Kibaki are already senile. Instead he would be faced with more formidable ones - economic reality of capitalism, the church, cartels.
Raila seeks to undo the system. The opposite of say Ruto who has mastered it.
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When Kibaki came into power in 2003, there was some significant disruption in the form of governance and corruption cartels. Of course after not so long they emerged. I've no doubt Babu would equally dismantle the cartels and replace them gradually or rather suffer his guys to fill them in, but in the interim we would enjoy bliss. Not just Babu but any change of guard would bring this. That's the only reason I'd support Babu.....not because he has some magical silver bullet.
Babu was seduced by trappings of power by Moi, KANU sec gen, a ministry.....that's all you need to know he's no different. Of course his excuse is that he went in to reform KANU from inside. Good humour
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Our electoral IQ has improved as a country because of Raila and this will serve Kenya well in the future. I am glad he withstood the pressure to concede and save his legacy. Had he done that he would have damaged his legacy even more. The whole country has benefited from his decision to go to court which gave the Magara court a chance to show case their independence. These two events will be historically more consequential than what ouru and ruto could have done in the next five years. While ouru is destroying his legacy by appearing in public drunk and insulting the judiciary, Raila is building a formidable legacy by changing the electoral system and adding to his legacy of expanding the democratic space in Kenya.
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Our electoral IQ has improved as a country because of Raila and this will serve Kenya well in the future. I am glad he withstood the pressure to concede and save his legacy. Had he done that he would have damaged his legacy even more. The whole country has benefited from his decision to go to court which gave the Magara court a chance to show case their independence. These two events will be historically more consequential than what ouru and ruto could have done in the next five years. While ouru is destroying his legacy by appearing in public drunk and insulting the judiciary, Raila is building a formidable legacy by changing the electoral system and adding to his legacy of expanding the democratic space in Kenya.
Nobody pressured Babu to concede; Kerry and all observers aksd losers to seek legal redress if he felt cheated.
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Our electoral IQ has improved as a country because of Raila and this will serve Kenya well in the future. I am glad he withstood the pressure to concede and save his legacy. Had he done that he would have damaged his legacy even more. The whole country has benefited from his decision to go to court which gave the Magara court a chance to show case their independence. These two events will be historically more consequential than what ouru and ruto could have done in the next five years. While ouru is destroying his legacy by appearing in public drunk and insulting the judiciary, Raila is building a formidable legacy by changing the electoral system and adding to his legacy of expanding the democratic space in Kenya.
Nobody pressured Babu to concede; Kerry and all observers aksd losers to seek legal redress if he felt cheated.
They did. Kerry kwanza with his speeches of "Oh I know how it is to lose elections, just accept and move on...." However, I don't blame him like some Kenyans coz I also wanted Raila to concede. It seemed both sensible and inevitable at the time. I am glad he didn't listen to voices like mine though
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Let wait for 17th October verdict. If Raila is beaten by even margin - then it will be humiliating and devastating - and he won't have any excuse. This will mark the end of him in politics.
They did. Kerry kwanza with his speeches of "Oh I know how it is to lose elections, just accept and move on...." However, I don't blame him like some Kenyans coz I also wanted Raila to concede. It seemed both sensible and inevitable at the time. I am glad he didn't listen to voices like mine though
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Windy it always amusing reading how you somehow divide our politicians into good or bad when everyone knows the whole lot are equally rotten
The old sisi sote ni wezi mantra.
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Our electoral IQ has improved as a country because of Raila and this will serve Kenya well in the future. I am glad he withstood the pressure to concede and save his legacy. Had he done that he would have damaged his legacy even more. The whole country has benefited from his decision to go to court which gave the Magara court a chance to show case their independence. These two events will be historically more consequential than what ouru and ruto could have done in the next five years. While ouru is destroying his legacy by appearing in public drunk and insulting the judiciary, Raila is building a formidable legacy by changing the electoral system and adding to his legacy of expanding the democratic space in Kenya.
Nobody pressured Babu to concede; Kerry and all observers aksd losers to seek legal redress if he felt cheated.
Mr Pundito here was screaming every day "Concede already!!"
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Let wait for 17th October verdict. If Raila is beaten by even margin - then it will be humiliating and devastating - and he won't have any excuse. This will mark the end of him in politics.
They did. Kerry kwanza with his speeches of "Oh I know how it is to lose elections, just accept and move on...." However, I don't blame him like some Kenyans coz I also wanted Raila to concede. It seemed both sensible and inevitable at the time. I am glad he didn't listen to voices like mine though
Pundit, I am not the least bit interested in predictions. I have heard the end of Raila and his one-way trip to Bondo predicted so often, I could write a song with those lyrics. You have no idea what will happen tomorrow, leave alone next month, because you are not God and do not own a crystal ball. For all you know, next week might mark the breakout of a civil war or the death of any of these people or the occurrence of events you cannot even guess at. So please keep those for your MOAS threads and interested members like Robina, Omollo, vooke or the others you guys argue with over those. I simply don't care. I will witness reality as it happens and pay no mind to prophecies :)
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Sounds like a touched a raw nerve. The will be two outcomes on 17th or maybe 3 or 4. We will come to MOAS later but for now there are at least four scenarios I can see...
1) Raila wins - and vindicate his rigging theory
2) Raila loses - by smaller margin - and somehow vindicate himself that some rigging had happened earlier.
3) Raila loses - by the same margin - IEBC & Uhuru are vindicated.
4) Raila loses - by even wider margin - that will be as devastating as Zim's Morgan Tsavingiria receiving a dog beating from Mugabe.
The worse scenario for Raila is 4 - and looking at re-alligment by the political class - it's looking increasingly likely Raila will go down with huge thunder.
Pundit, I am not the least bit interested in predictions. I have heard the end of Raila and his one-way trip to Bondo predicted so often, I could write a song with those lyrics. You have no idea what will happen tomorrow, leave alone next month, because you are not God and do not own a crystal ball. For all you know, next week might mark the breakout of a civil war or the death of an of these people or the occurrence of events you cannot even guess at. So please keep those for your MOAS thread and interested members like Robina, Omollo or the others you guys argue with. I simply don't care. :)
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No raw nerve was touched, Pundit. I am simply letting you know how much stock I put in all these predictions. Its like asking me to again consult American pundits on their presidential elections. Just not gonna do it. Reality is the best proof of reality. Just a few weeks ago you hadn't the slightest idea that you would be here so soon with fresh predictions, my fren. Raila leaving politics permanently is something I was calling for myself just a short 1 month ago. So please just know I'm not paying attention to all these confident readings of the future by mere mortals. I've learned from experience to take them with a mountain of salt.
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Of course. We try our best to predict the future because I reckon it's human nature. I don't think we can live day by day in politics :) That essence of planning and many human endeavors.
No raw nerve was touched, Pundit. I am simply letting you know how much stock I put in all these predictions. Its like asking me to again consult American pundits on their presidential elections. Just not gonna do it. Reality is the best proof of reality. Just a few weeks ago you hadn't the slightest idea that you would be here so soon with fresh predictions, my fren. Raila leaving politics permanently is something I was calling for myself just a short 1 month ago. So please just know I'm not paying attention to all these confident readings of the future by mere mortals. I've learned from experience to take them with a mountain of salt.
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Our electoral IQ has improved as a country because of Raila and this will serve Kenya well in the future. I am glad he withstood the pressure to concede and save his legacy. Had he done that he would have damaged his legacy even more. The whole country has benefited from his decision to go to court which gave the Magara court a chance to show case their independence. These two events will be historically more consequential than what ouru and ruto could have done in the next five years. While ouru is destroying his legacy by appearing in public drunk and insulting the judiciary, Raila is building a formidable legacy by changing the electoral system and adding to his legacy of expanding the democratic space in Kenya.
Nobody pressured Babu to concede; Kerry and all observers aksd losers to seek legal redress if he felt cheated.
They did. Kerry kwanza with his speeches of "Oh I know how it is to lose elections, just accept and move on...." However, I don't blame him like some Kenyans coz I also wanted Raila to concede. It seemed both sensible and inevitable at the time. I am glad he didn't listen to voices like mine though
Every statement I recall from Kerry spoke of going to court if unsatisfied. If you have a specific statement to 'accept and move on' please share
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I just saw it on France 24 just yesterday on this very discussion between the EU observer and others. He said it very plainly and they discussed that very video. Anyone who wants can look for it. I won't bother.
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I just saw it on France 24 just yesterday on this very discussion between the EU observer and others. He said it very plainly and they discussed that very video. Anyone who wants can look for it. I won't bother.
Here's Kerry's famous CNN interview.
http://edition.cnn.com/videos/tv/2017/08/10/amanpour-interview-john-kerry-kenya-full-interview.cnn/video/playlists/amanpour/
He expressed caution as tallying was ongoing but said he was impressed by what he saw. I don't know why they vilified him.
More importantly, he insisted on due process just when there were protests all over.
If you ever find any foreigner's who pressured Babu to concede be kind enough to share.
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That's diplo talk. Behind the scenes, they were very blunt. In 2007 they put all the pressure on Raila and threatened to support Kibaki if he did not let go. They tried the same behind the scenes and this time Raila refused. Kenya is now glad he did because it gave the supreme court the opportunity to take a close look at this case. What we know now is that our electoral system is going to benefit tremendously from this ruling and that Raila's legacy is even more enhanced. Just like life is not all about money, democracy and country is not all about numbers. Its also about the rule of law.
I just saw it on France 24 just yesterday on this very discussion between the EU observer and others. He said it very plainly and they discussed that very video. Anyone who wants can look for it. I won't bother.
Here's Kerry's famous CNN interview.
http://edition.cnn.com/videos/tv/2017/08/10/amanpour-interview-john-kerry-kenya-full-interview.cnn/video/playlists/amanpour/
He expressed caution as tallying was ongoing but said he was impressed by what he saw. I don't know why they vilified him.
More importantly, he insisted on due process just when there were protests all over.
If you ever find any foreigner's who pressured Babu to concede be kind enough to share.
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That's diplo talk. Behind the scenes, they were very blunt. In 2007 they put all the pressure on Raila and threatened to support Kibaki if he did not let go. They tried the same behind the scenes and this time Raila refused. Kenya is now glad he did because it gave the supreme court the opportunity to take a close look at this case. What we know now is that our electoral system is going to benefit tremendously from this ruling and that Raila's legacy is even more enhanced. Just like life is not all about money, democracy and country is not all about numbers. Its also about the rule of law.
Aha, 'diplo-talk'?
Behind the scenes they also promised Uhuru two Greece islands if he accepted the verdict of SCOK
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Kerry gave the election a clean bill of health. If Raila did not get that as a message to move on, then he more naive than I thought.
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Kerry gave the election a clean bill of health. If Raila did not get that as a message to move on, then he more naive than I thought.
He also gave a touchy-feely anecdote about how he knows what it feels like to lose, he lost a presidential election by only one state, but you have to get over it and move on. I saw the video yesterday: it was the subject of a discussion on France 24 with the guests being the head of the EU observer group and other experts from London and Paris. I'm just not interested in going around digging for it but those were Kerry's words. I don't have hate for him, that's how things looked to him, me and many other people. But to deny that there was pressure on RAO to concede is revisionism.
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http://www.nation.co.ke/news/politics/Hassan-Omar-resigns-Wiper/1064-4086422-i4ka68z/index.html
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Predictable by a long shot. Poor Kalonzo needs to look harder for someone as ambitious, outspoken, well-heeled to give the party the national outlook at this hour of need. Sarai is almost overambitious. I don't expect him to be heading Jubilee. Likely back to civil society or professorship soon to be special rapporteur like Kiai.
http://www.nation.co.ke/news/politics/Hassan-Omar-resigns-Wiper/1064-4086422-i4ka68z/index.html
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Isaac Ruto and his CCM will officially decamp today to Jubilee at Kapkatet grounds during UhuRuto rally. UhuRuto will now score 96% plus in Kalenjin land with turnout expected to be very high.. Jubilee will get 1% point from RV.60% is increasingly looking likely.
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Isaac Ruto and his CCM will officially decamp today to Jubilee at Kapkatet grounds during UhuRuto rally. UhuRuto will now score 96% plus in Kalenjin land with turnout expected to be very high.. Jubilee will get 1% point from RV.60% is increasingly looking likely.
I'm still puzzled why jubilee rigged the elections if(big if) they already had the numbers? IR would be a fool, he knows he was rigged out by the criminals.
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NASA 5th Principal Plogom flying to Kapkatet with his two CCM mps and Kanu's Ngong Ngeno where they are expected to announce their support for UhuRuto together with Zakayo Cheruiyot. I think Sossion can take the 5th Principal flag
Former Bomet Governor Isaac Rutto has joined President Uhuru Kenyatta and DP William Ruto for the Kapkatet rally.
Rutto was among leaders who welcomed Uhuru and William Ruto after they landed in the area on Friday.
Former Kuresoi South MP Zakayo Cheruiyot, Emurua Dikirr MP Johana Ng’eno and Narok's Patrick Ole Ntutu joined him.
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Kwisha fika
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Thought this guy was unpopular in Meru..?
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It is sad to watch a man/woman sell his soul to the devil.
NASA 5th Principal Plogom flying to Kapkatet with his two CCM mps and Kanu's Ngong Ngeno where they are expected to announce their support for UhuRuto together with Zakayo Cheruiyot. I think Sossion can take the 5th Principal flag
Former Bomet Governor Isaac Rutto has joined President Uhuru Kenyatta and DP William Ruto for the Kapkatet rally.
Rutto was among leaders who welcomed Uhuru and William Ruto after they landed in the area on Friday.
Former Kuresoi South MP Zakayo Cheruiyot, Emurua Dikirr MP Johana Ng’eno and Narok's Patrick Ole Ntutu joined him.
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Kwisha fika
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Listening to a maasai speaker introducing RAO and assuring him of grassroot support in Narok brought a tear to my eye. All they have asked him for when he gets to Canaan is water.... bloody water...
That's all they want, sio cabinet positions au high commissions... maji tu.
Unbelievable.
Tonight, the lying thieving bastards will have nightmares.....
There's even a warning for that reluctant Ole Kaparo that refuses to pursue that unpleasant Moses Ruto.
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Listening to a maasai speaker introducing RAO and assuring him of grassroot support in Narok brought a tear to my eye. All they have asked him for when he gets to Canaan is water.... bloody water...
That's all they want, sio cabinet positions au high commissions... maji tu.
Unbelievable.
Tonight, the lying thieving bastards will have nightmares.....
There's even a warning for that reluctant Ole Kaparo that refuses to pursue that unpleasant Moses Ruto.
How are they pulling these crowds in? We know they are broke. These are not paid attendees. I saw a rally at Uhuru park today. It looked rather empty. More so when you consider that part of that crowd was paid to show up.
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Munya backtracks
Former Meru Gorvenor Peter Munya has taken? a u-turn and said selling Raila in Meru is like selling pork in Saudi Arabia.
Addressing worshipers in Luma Catholic Church in Muthara Tigania East this morning, Munya apologized to his community for supporting NASA against the will of the Meru community.
He asked all his supporters to vote for Uhuru Kenyatta in the October Presidential Elections.
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Munya backtracks
Former Meru Gorvenor Peter Munya has taken? a u-turn and said selling Raila in Meru is like selling pork in Saudi Arabia.
Addressing worshipers in Luma Catholic Church in Muthara Tigania East this morning, Munya apologized to his community for supporting NASA against the will of the Meru community.
He asked all his supporters to vote for Uhuru Kenyatta in the October Presidential Elections.
Selling pork in Saudi Arabia? :lolz: :lolz:
There's an interview he explained why he was supporting Uhuru. He said the mood in the ground and his supporters demanded that. Now the time he's back,I think he has a bright future
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Kalonzo on the ropes - after this - if Raila doesn't hand over the mantle to Kalonzo - but as expected to Orengo-Joho then Kalonzo end is nigh
http://www.nation.co.ke/news/Kalonzo-Musyoka-is-a-burden-to-Kambas-David-Musila/1056-4090852-bg4etz/index.html
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RV-Pundit-Actually Kalonzo and Ruto are in similar situations only that Ruto's is not apparent to you. If Ouru wins then he can hand-over the mantle to Ruto and so Raila to Kalonzo if Raila wins. However, the handing-over does not assure them that nobody in the party will challenge them. One thing a lot of people do not appreciate is that politics in Kenya is very fast moving and five years will make a lot of difference. Five years from now the country may not be in the mood for either Kalonzo or Ruto. Let us begin with Kalonzo, if Raila does not get the presidency, NASA will be led by very politically radical group and Kalonzo may not fit in unless he re-invents himself. Ruto will also be surprised that the country will not be in the mood for this two tribe arrangement five years down the line. It is a very primitive concept of governance and I can already see Kenyans getting tired of it.
Just to illustrate my point, five years ago, a supreme court made up of activists and very liberally leaning intellectuals could not overturn an election where the president purportedly won by 50 plus one but five years later the same court with more conservative-Moderate judges found it very easy to overturn an election where the winner purportedly won by 54%. They were able to see through that 54% was a gimmick to intimidate them into ignoring the seriously flawed process. "Vindu vi chenjanga"
Kalonzo on the ropes - after this - if Raila doesn't hand over the mantle to Kalonzo - but as expected to Orengo-Joho then Kalonzo end is nigh
http://www.nation.co.ke/news/Kalonzo-Musyoka-is-a-burden-to-Kambas-David-Musila/1056-4090852-bg4etz/index.html
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Kalonzo is cooked. His Ukambani base has two rising leaders Sonko & Mutua - while his backyard is ran by Ngilu & Kivutha who don't have time for Kalonzo - he has less than 20 mps - 2 or 3 senators - the man is as Kaput as MaDVD or Wetangula. He is now at same level with Gideon Moi. Ruto is at same level with Raila and Uhuru. You cannot compare Kalonzo with Ruto.
RV-Pundit-Actually Kalonzo and Ruto are in similar situations only that Ruto's is not apparent to you. If Ouru wins then he can hand-over the mantle to Ruto and so Raila to Kalonzo if Raila wins. However, the handing-over does not assure them that nobody in the party will challenge them. One thing a lot of people do not appreciate is that politics in Kenya is very fast moving and five years will make a lot of difference. Five years from now the country may not be in the mood for either Kalonzo or Ruto. Let us begin with Kalonzo, if Raila does not get the presidency, NASA will be led by very politically radical group and Kalonzo may not fit in unless he re-invents himself. Ruto will also be surprised that the country will not be in the mood for this two tribe arrangement five years down the line. It is a very primitive concept of governance and I can already see Kenyans getting tired of it.
Just to illustrate my point, five years ago, a supreme court made up of activists and very liberally leaning intellectuals could not overturn an election where the president purportedly won by 50 plus one but five years later the same court with more conservative-Moderate judges found it very easy to overturn an election where the winner purportedly won by 54%. They were able to see through that 54% was a gimmick to intimidate them into ignoring the seriously flawed process. "Vindu vi chenjanga"
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It is true that Ruto looks better than Kalonzo right now but things can flip on Ruto too very quickly. There are a lot of land mines in Kenyan politics. The so called super majority can also be a double edged sword.
Kalonzo is cooked. His Ukambani base has two rising leaders Sonko & Mutua - while his backyard is ran by Ngilu & Kivutha who don't have time for Kalonzo - he has less than 20 mps - 2 or 3 senators - the man is as Kaput as MaDVD or Wetangula. He is now at same level with Gideon Moi. Ruto is at same level with Raila and Uhuru. You cannot compare Kalonzo with Ruto.
RV-Pundit-Actually Kalonzo and Ruto are in similar situations only that Ruto's is not apparent to you. If Ouru wins then he can hand-over the mantle to Ruto and so Raila to Kalonzo if Raila wins. However, the handing-over does not assure them that nobody in the party will challenge them. One thing a lot of people do not appreciate is that politics in Kenya is very fast moving and five years will make a lot of difference. Five years from now the country may not be in the mood for either Kalonzo or Ruto. Let us begin with Kalonzo, if Raila does not get the presidency, NASA will be led by very politically radical group and Kalonzo may not fit in unless he re-invents himself. Ruto will also be surprised that the country will not be in the mood for this two tribe arrangement five years down the line. It is a very primitive concept of governance and I can already see Kenyans getting tired of it.
Just to illustrate my point, five years ago, a supreme court made up of activists and very liberally leaning intellectuals could not overturn an election where the president purportedly won by 50 plus one but five years later the same court with more conservative-Moderate judges found it very easy to overturn an election where the winner purportedly won by 54%. They were able to see through that 54% was a gimmick to intimidate them into ignoring the seriously flawed process. "Vindu vi chenjanga"
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Munya - not sure if it's legit
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I wouldn't be surprised, folks are being sawn videos of people being tortured and others are being threatened with audit or both. What US ambassador Hempton (sp) observed in the 80's is even more true today. He said "Kenya is like Chicago in the 40"s except here Al Capone is the mayor". Ruto and Ouru are a bunch of thugs running a criminal syndicate. Kivuitu said that the people who picked him up and forced him to announce the 2007 election results should never have been born. No, I am not surprised if Munya capitulates. This is not political realignment, this is Mafia at work.
Munya - not sure if it's legit
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Smart negro, he hasn't a better chance in 2022 with Jubilee than NASWA
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One of the most short-lived defection - Why did NASA make him a principal :)
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Sielewi
This
PRESS RELEASE: I AM IN NASA TO STAY
HON. PETER MUNYA
It has come to my attention of a fake letter doing rounds on social media,purporting to have my name.
I wish to inform the people of Meru and Kenyans at large that Iam firmly in NASA.The merchants of impunity are already running amok on our resolve,as the Party of National Unity (PNU) to join hands in the liberation of our country.
I wish to affirm here that no amount of fake news or propaganda will stop our agenda.
Peter Munya.
Party Leader,PNU.
Then this
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Alfred sambu -Webuye Mp-from opposition attended the 12th parliament session.
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Babu claims Munya and Rutto was blackmailed/intimidated into joining Jubilee
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they are making a mockery of democracy. Trust Africans to mess up anything good, whether it is democracy or capitalism. Those who came up with the concept of democracy never envisioned the idea of people being intimidated, threatened and bought with a lot of money to form a majority. The concept of democracy is predicated upon the assumption of freedom of thought, expression and association. Democracy never saw primitive, corrupt and power hungry leaders like Ruto who have stolen enough money to literally buy every politician in Kenya to form a super majority of tyranny and looting. Nothing good will ever come out of it. Ruto and Ouru are the enemies of democracy and Kenya will never be truly democratic with these two thugs in politics.
Babu claims Munya and Rutto was blackmailed/intimidated into joining Jubilee
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they are making a mockery of democracy. Trust Africans to mess up anything good, whether it is democracy or capitalism. Those who came up with the concept of democracy never envisioned the idea of people being intimidated, threatened and bought with a lot of money to form a majority. The concept of democracy is predicated upon the assumption of freedom of thought, expression and association. Democracy never saw primitive, corrupt and power hungry leaders like Ruto who have stolen enough money to literally buy every politician in Kenya to form a super majority of tyranny and looting. Nothing good will ever come out of it. Ruto and Ouru are the enemies of democracy and Kenya will never be truly democratic with these two thugs in politics.
Babu claims Munya and Rutto was blackmailed/intimidated into joining Jubilee
Damn right.
Throw in bungled primaries.
And pray if I may aks, is dangling positions any different from bribery?
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We said this already Kichwa - why are you surprised? Huge chunks of cash are changing hands right now - NASA will be deserted by 17th - with the few big defections being spared for the final stretch. For kina Hassan Omar, Mwakwere and Mruttu. You have a right to be disgusted but not to be surprised. Welcome to tumbocracy.
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I am watching Nanok - the only governor with khaemba in former RV who is not in Jubilee. Taita Taveta - Jubilee can pick lot more there.Tana River governor could defect. There is little movement in Gusii - but Kuria is solidly Jubilee. It going to be rout against NASA. Raila definitely is going out with BANG - 40%-60%.
We said this already Kichwa - why are you surprised? Huge chunks of cash are changing hands right now - NASA will be deserted by 17th - with the few big defections being spared for the final stretch. For kina Hassan Omar, Mwakwere and Mruttu. You have a right to be disgusted but not to be surprised. Welcome to tumbocracy.
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We said this already Kichwa - why are you surprised? Huge chunks of cash are changing hands right now - NASA will be deserted by 17th - with the few big defections being spared for the final stretch. For kina Hassan Omar, Mwakwere and Mruttu. You have a right to be disgusted but not to be surprised. Welcome to tumbocracy.
That. And more likely blackmail as Baba said in the interview. If you are not squeaky clean, the jubilant has leverage over you.
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We said this already Kichwa - why are you surprised? Huge chunks of cash are changing hands right now - NASA will be deserted by 17th - with the few big defections being spared for the final stretch. For kina Hassan Omar, Mwakwere and Mruttu. You have a right to be disgusted but not to be surprised. Welcome to tumbocracy.
That. And more likely blackmail as Baba said in the interview. If you are not squeaky clean, the jubilant has leverage over you.
Or they saw the sense in Uhuru's point that Babu can't govern. This is the case. But feel free to invent all other NAZI permutations
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We said this already Kichwa - why are you surprised? Huge chunks of cash are changing hands right now - NASA will be deserted by 17th - with the few big defections being spared for the final stretch. For kina Hassan Omar, Mwakwere and Mruttu. You have a right to be disgusted but not to be surprised. Welcome to tumbocracy.
That. And more likely blackmail as Baba said in the interview. If you are not squeaky clean, the jubilant has leverage over you.
In this post Msando world, mambo ni self preservation.
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We said this already Kichwa - why are you surprised? Huge chunks of cash are changing hands right now - NASA will be deserted by 17th - with the few big defections being spared for the final stretch. For kina Hassan Omar, Mwakwere and Mruttu. You have a right to be disgusted but not to be surprised. Welcome to tumbocracy.
That. And more likely blackmail as Baba said in the interview. If you are not squeaky clean, the jubilant has leverage over you.
Or they saw the sense in Uhuru's point that Babu can't govern. This is the case. But feel free to invent all other NAZI permutations
Of course the drunkard and the thief is a better governor is the more convincing argument for vooke.
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My point is that democracy is about winning minds with ideas and not through intimidation, tribalism, buying people and forcing them to join you. Its majority rule but not by all means. Democracy is like any competitive sport, it has to have rules and neutral referees and not just about whomever gets the most goals regardless of how the goals are scored. That is what the supreme court case was all about.
You and Pundit seem to think that what matters is how many goals are scored regardless of whether the winning team followed the rules of the game or NOT.
Bottom line is this, Ouru and Ruto can buy, intimidate and force many politicians to join them but they will not buy everybody.
This is the same thing Jomo did. When he saw Jaramogi winning the ideological argument, he started playing rough, making rules that favored him, introduced tribalism a intimidation, force, detention without trial and murder. He was able to consolidate power but he never managed to subdue everyone into submission. The same will happen to Ruto and Ouru. They will try to use money, intimidation, murder, threats, tribalism, force and they will get a lot of people because most people are weak, however, there will be enough people left to give them hell all the way. They cannot buy or kill everyone in Kenya plus they are human beings and will die and make mistakes which others will capitalize on.
I am just surprised at the primitivity of folks like you who think they will succeed.
We said this already Kichwa - why are you surprised? Huge chunks of cash are changing hands right now - NASA will be deserted by 17th - with the few big defections being spared for the final stretch. For kina Hassan Omar, Mwakwere and Mruttu. You have a right to be disgusted but not to be surprised. Welcome to tumbocracy.
That. And more likely blackmail as Baba said in the interview. If you are not squeaky clean, the jubilant has leverage over you.
Or they saw the sense in Uhuru's point that Babu can't govern. This is the case. But feel free to invent all other NAZI permutations
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Omigo magara and his 2 PDP mps join Jubilee
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You cannot ran out of politicians to buy in Kenya but you cannot buy legitimacy and democracy. Just like slavery or colonialism failed at a certain time, a majority acquired through undemocratic means will collapse under its own weight. It did not work for Kenyatta, and Moi and it will not work for Ouru and Ruto. At a certain point, buying and intimidating supporters, starts to have diminishing returns.
Omigo magara and his 2 PDP mps join Jubilee
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Otuoma officially joins Jubilee and targets 100K of Busia voters to vote Jubilee.
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You should have started from here.
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Well I guess they are political enough.NASA has 4 scok judges - who will influence 4 votes.
You should have started from here.
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Pundit- Be nice to the judges. Remember the pen is mightier than a sword. After issuing internationally acclaimed dog beating decision on 9/1, the 4 SCOK judges may add insult to injury with a withering attack on bumbling IEBC.
Well I guess they are political enough.NASA has 4 scok judges - who will influence 4 votes.
You should have started from here.
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You wish they had the powers to declare Raila PORK; Well they don't. They can waste our time and money but as sure as daylight ; UhuRuto will win a repeat election; even if ordered 10 times.
Pundit- Be nice to the judges. Remember the pen is mightier than a sword. After issuing internationally acclaimed dog beating decision on 9/1, the 4 SCOK judges may add insult to injury with a withering attack on bumbling IEBC.
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8,000 leaders drawn from the Narok County Maa Community - meet UhuRuto. Tunai and his opponent Ole Ntutu shakes hands
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His elder brother - former Senator Ntutu returns back to Jubilee
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The guy who makes all this happens - on his terms.
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Uhuru eating Raila's lunch in Busia.
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Latest updates
- former ODM GESAMI of Nyamira - who ran for governorship as independent - defects to Jubilee
- Bosire ODM National Treasure defects to Jubilee
- Omar Hassan set to defect
- Ole Nkedianye- former Kajiado governor set to defect as he eyes Nkaissery job.
- former Taita Taveta governor - Mruttu - set to defect to Jubilee
The rats are fleeing. Nobody with sane mind is buying the rigging theory.
https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2017/10/07/mruttu-in-talks-to-join-jubilee_c1648588
https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2017/10/07/nkedianye-headed-to-jubilee-lenku_c1648568
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Hi ya joho looks faked
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Maasai kweli look at that nose :D
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Mohammed Ali - Independent MP of Nyali (rigged by Joho brother) - join Jubilee
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Governor nkedianye has been promised a cabinet secretary position. Possibly education. He is defecting today. Kumbe watu hapa lack principles...but jubilee is reaping big.
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Gov Samboja who is facing forgery ti support Jubilee.First sitting NASA governor to cross over.Raila is looking for 3 months breather but by then he will be all alone.
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Governor nkedianye has been promised a cabinet secretary position. Possibly education. He is defecting today. Kumbe watu hapa lack principles...but jubilee is reaping big.
That governor is a fool. Governor vs CS? His dreams are too small for him to be a member of nasa.
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CS is more powerful than governor. Education ministry is in charge of nearly 250-300B and about 300,000 staff. Kajiado is about 100 times smaller. Nkaissery position is open. Nkedianye is smart to go for it. Beside he lost governorship to Ole Lenku and even if he won the petition - he'd still has to beat Ole Lenku - backed by Gema diaspora and largest clan of Kajiado maasais. The guy is leveraging up.
That governor is a fool. Governor vs CS? His dreams are too small for him to be a member of nasa.
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