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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: KenyanPlato on March 16, 2022, 02:45:47 PM
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Usa demands irreversible withdrawal as a minimum. Russia demands netrualuarity from Ukraine and demilitrilization. So war continues. ..
I demands putin's head and repatriation to ukraine using the confiscated 600 billion Russian reserves
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Some people like believing in their own lies lime they have always believed that Raila will be president in2007,2013,2017.only for reality to show them otherwise.
https://www.rt.com/russia/552054-ukraine-peace-deal-russia/
Vladimir Medinsky, Russia’s top negotiator at the peace talks with Ukraine, has said that Kiev is floating the idea of becoming a neutral nation.
“Ukraine is proposing an Austrian or a Swedish model of a neutral demilitarized state, but with its own army and navy,” Medinsky told reporters on Wednesday, adding that “the size of Ukrainian Army” was among the issues discussed.
Moscow wants Ukraine to officially become a neutral country that will never join NATO. Russia attacked Ukraine on February 24, saying that it was seeking the “demilitarization” of the country, among other demands.
Medinsky reiterated that Moscow wants Kiev to recognize Crimea as part of Russia, and the independence of the Donetsk and Lugansk People’s Republics (DPR and LPR), which broke away from Ukraine shortly after the 2014 coup in Kiev. Other key issues of concern for Russia are the “denazification” of Ukraine and the rights of Russian speakers living in the country, the negotiator said.
“There was some progress on several issues, but not all of them,” Medinsky said about the talks with Kiev.
Commenting on this model of Ukrainian neutrality, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said “it can be viewed as a certain compromise.”
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I don't follow this stuff but I see Russia winning because they have no choice. The west and Nato are just shameless bullies. Overall I see China as the real beneficiary. What does Taiwan think now about "protection" by the US against Mainland?
By the way what is "denazification" of Ukraine? Are Russians really treated like Jews?
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I won't respond to you Nowayhaha.
For the purpose of this war Russia is defeated. Nato members has shown that they can walk the talk in terms of supporting allies who are non members. Ukraine performance and Russian military incompetence has opened a new era for the world. Russia has finally shown the world its under belly. It has proven that it is an empty bear. No country going forward will take Russian aggression lying down.
China must make a very important strategic decision here. To go with defeated Russia or to crawl back to the western sphere of influence. China can't hide anymore it tipped her hand early in this battle thinking Russia would win quickly now Russia is blackmailing them asking for assistance. India is under cutting China by buying Russian oil.
Anyway 21 days on Ukraine has won and Russian troops should be given a chance by their commander in chief putin to go back and regroup. It is evil to let your troops fight a battle with no clear goals and no good outcome.
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I don't follow this stuff but I see Russia winning because they have no choice. The west and Nato are just shameless bullies. Overall I see China as the real beneficiary. What does Taiwan think know about "protection" by the US against Mainland?
By the way what is "denazification" of Ukraine? Are Russians really treated like Jews?
China won't attack Taiwan. Russia is looking for a diplomatic exit. The war is not going according to their plans. It was like idi amini..invasion of Tanzania. Boneheaded move that has no clear goal or worthy dying for.
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I don't get how Nato wins: is Ukraine going to join Nato? that is the question.
Ukraine is the biggest loser obviously, for accepting to be the geopolitical bait. China wins by exposing US/Nato's unwillingness to commit military defense.
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India buys Russian oil not in defiance of China but Nato sanctions.
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Ukraine are just stupid to incite this war on their country.
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India buys Russian oil not in defiance of China but Nato sanctions.
I am not sure how these arrangements work. I am sure there is a legal way to defy the sanctions plus India may not have to respect sanctions between usa and Russia. I believe India buys the oil in rupee to rubble exchange thus by passing the need for dollars. Seems Iran sells their oil too to India and China bypassing sanctions. So then may be kenya or other countries can buy oil from India. Russia is selling at a steep discount
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Bahindi lead the world in refining oil and re-exporting.
I am not sure how these arrangements work. I am sure there is a legal way to defy the sanctions plus India may not have to respect sanctions between usa and Russia. I believe India buys the oil in rupee to rubble exchange thus by passing the need for dollars. Seems Iran sells their oil too to India and China bypassing sanctions. So then may be kenya or other countries can buy oil from India. Russia is selling at a steep discount
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No need to engage you , you are beyond redemption. Some tweets will do the necessary.
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I won't respond to you Nowayhaha.
For the purpose of this war Russia is defeated. Nato members has shown that they can walk the talk in terms of supporting allies who are non members. Ukraine performance and Russian military incompetence has opened a new era for the world. Russia has finally shown the world its under belly. It has proven that it is an empty bear. No country going forward will take Russian aggression lying down.
China must make a very important strategic decision here. To go with defeated Russia or to crawl back to the western sphere of influence. China can't hide anymore it tipped her hand early in this battle thinking Russia would win quickly now Russia is blackmailing them asking for assistance. India is under cutting China by buying Russian oil.
Anyway 21 days on Ukraine has won and Russian troops should be given a chance by their commander in chief putin to go back and regroup. It is evil to let your troops fight a battle with no clear goals and no good outcome.
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Indeed Russia is now a laughing stock all over the world anyone supporting them needs his head mental state recalibrated as they are surely under influence of some intoxication.
Ruasia has lost the war ,sijui lunch in kiev in 2 days to other ridiculous statements. Russia will become weaker and disintegrate quickly. I give Putin just 2 years before he faces his own people
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Njuri you are believing too much propaganda. Let me give you a little summary and relevant links. The war in Ukraine is already a war between NATO and Russia only that NATO is doing it discreetly because they are afraid of a direct fight despite the hubris. Today if war breaks out directly you wont believe how many of the NATO countries that would be quick to assert their own independent policy. To be clear Russia invading Ukraine is despicable but unavoidable. NATO told kids to go throwing stones in a police station with false promises of coming to their aid only to watch on the sidelines as the kids get whipped only providing bigger stones for the kids to continue throwing at the same police. If you know how to track planes just check how this and many other US planes plus drones have been flying close to the action. There is a rumour that some of the drones are actually being flown by the CIA. Try using flight radar or ADS B Exchange and you will get a clearer picture of the behind the scenes covert action.
https://simpleflying.com/flightradar24-most-tracked-plane-boeing-rc-135/
https://www.flightradar24.com/blog/a-look-at-some-military-activity-in-airspace-around-ukraine/
Russia will definitely come out with lots of scars but one thing is for sure several things will have changed forever starting with the US dominance around the world, the status of NATO and the world economy at large. The dollar will lose its power as a tool of hegemony . When you have China, India and Pakistan not supporting the madness while Saudi crown prince is snubbing Biden's calls as the Saudis talk of selling oil in Renminbi then those of us who understand economics will tell you a disaster is coming . Hopefully people stop cheering this madness from both sides and see the bigger picture plus implications.
https://www.newsweek.com/zelensky-nato-russia-putin-war-ukraine-1688145
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/opec-chief-says-theres-no-124238149.html?guce_referrer=ahr0chm6ly93d3cuz29vz2xllmnvbs8&guce_referrer_sig=aqaaalliel2zvvlr1m452mhotbisviowdd2tglc6dlo3vflkqzgo9v2tzhtypswfs4criw94bxmbov51hiyysguaowcbuid3sxtrqdsfazucp1suzxkasmk0ac605hrsl9ek6ebycecemi6iir8eeyfwk-ebgoy8pp-t0mohvikcpj3k#:~:text=Business%20Insider-,OPEC%20chief%20says%20there's%20'no%20capacity%20in%20the%20world'%20that,a%20day%20in%20oil%20supply&text=OPEC's%20secretary%20general%20said%20there,the%20loss%20of%20Russian%20supply.
https://news.bitcoin.com/imf-warns-ongoing-war-in-europe-will-have-a-severe-impact-on-the-global-economy/
https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/saudi-arabia-considers-accepting-yuan-chinese-oil-sales
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NATO was divided, but now they are together. Militarization will be a priority.
They never thought Putin could be a crazy person until......now
Eastern Europe will be stronger.
Russia will be brain drained, until an anti Putin takes over - that will be another 20yrs
Ukraine will be like S. Korea - vibrant
China gain/loss still undetermined.
Africa and E. Europe will will gain as businesses leave China's strongman.
Lastly, Robina will join Ruto.
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China won't attack Taiwan. Russia is looking for a diplomatic exit. The war is not going according to their plans. It was like idi amini..invasion of Tanzania. Boneheaded move that has no clear goal or worthy dying for.
Be4 the war, basically for eight years straight since the 2014 coup, Russia made demands:
1) Ukraine must be neutral and NEVER join NATO
2) Ukraine must not have an army
3) Ukraine must allow Russian speakers in Ukraine to speak Russian and stop mistreating them
4) The two independent territories that broke off from Ukraine must be allowed to be independent countries.
5) Ukraine must recognize Crimea as part of Russia
Ukraine response: "FU! We're joining NATO and we'll play with nukes on top of that, and if you dare try and stop us, daddy NATO will beat you up!"
Today, 21 days after beating, Ukraine are discussing PERMANENT neutrality and independence of the two areas already, after refusing to do so for EIGHT years while drunk on "US will protect us" hot air.
So Russia made demands, were rebuffed, threatened a war, were dismissed, launched a war, and now will in all likelihood walk away with almost everything they asked for eight years.
And you pro-West fanatics want us to make the utterly irrational conclusion that Russia is the one failing here. :D
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Seems Plato takes CNN or BBC news at face value. Those are the worst liars in the world.
No need to engage you , you are beyond redemption. Some tweets will do the necessary.
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Ukraine are just stupid to incite this war on their country.
100%. Now they're talking about giving Russia what they wanted but with a wrecked country instead of one intact. And the West is all hype about this most foolish of all presidents being a hero. :)
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If you frame it as Russia vs Ukraine - you have Russia as laughing stock
But if you have Russia vs Nato - then Nato is the failure
There is too much propaganda to tell the difference. Overall goal is if Ukraine is joining Nato or going neutral/demilitarized. They already lost Crimea and the Donbass/Doneskt regions.
Russia vs Nato is a direct gain for China. That's 2 big battlefronts for the west.
NATO was divided, but now they are together. Militarization will be a priority.
They never thought Putin could be a crazy person until......now
Eastern Europe will be stronger.
Russia will be brain drained, until an anti Putin takes over - that will be another 20yrs
Ukraine will be like S. Korea - vibrant
China gain/loss still undetermined.
Africa and E. Europe will will gain as businesses leave China's strongman.
Lastly, Robina will join Ruto.
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I don't get how Nato wins: is Ukraine going to join Nato? that is the question.
Ukraine is the biggest loser obviously, for accepting to be the geopolitical bait. China wins by exposing US/Nato's unwillingness to commit military defense.
I have the same view.
Anyone fooling themselves that China will let Taiwan go are a victim of looking at everything through Western lenses. China was never going to invade Taiwan tomorrow. They're waiting until they have sufficient superiority against the almighty US and it's dollar. The VERY next day they achieve it, Taiwan will be reunified by force (if they resist) and the US will do absolutely nothing to stop it. This was always the plan and nothing in the Ukraine issue has happened to change it. If anything, it's encouraged this though they were always going to do this anyway.
By the way what is "denazification" of Ukraine? Are Russians really treated like Jews?
I think they want the likes of Azov battalion and affiliates removed completely from all aspects of govt, from military to the three arms.
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I also don't get how people judge Russia against the recent US embarassment by the Taliban. Ground job is never easy. Russia aim is not to occupy Ukraine but fend off Nato.
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If you frame it as Russia vs Ukraine - you have Russia as laughing stock
But if you have Russia vs Nato - then Nato is the failure
There is too much propaganda to tell the difference. Overall goal is if Ukraine is joining Nato or going neutral/demilitarized. They already lost Crimea and the Donbass/Doneskt regions.
Russia vs Nato is a direct gain for China. That's 2 big battlefronts for the west.
NATO was divided, but now they are together. Militarization will be a priority.
They never thought Putin could be a crazy person until......now
Eastern Europe will be stronger.
Russia will be brain drained, until an anti Putin takes over - that will be another 20yrs
Ukraine will be like S. Korea - vibrant
China gain/loss still undetermined.
Africa and E. Europe will will gain as businesses leave China's strongman.
Lastly, Robina will join Ruto.
Strictly speaking NATO has no skin in this game. But they get Putin to commit to an unnecessary war. They watch and try out weapons from a distance. NATO does not need Ukraine.
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Ground job is never easy. Russia aim is not to occupy Ukraine but fend off Nato.
This is what most people like Plato/Njuri get wrong. They bought into the lie that Russia was trying to colonize Ukraine and resurrect USSR. You can only buy this if you've zero context in the 8-year war going on there.
Which, to be fair, has been deliberately blocked out in Western media this year. Anyone like Tulsi Gabbard who's attempted to provide this context has been severely punished.
So I don't blame them. Knowing my personality, I'd 100% be toeing the same line if I hadn't sobered up on the sinister side of Western geopolitics since WW2. It's very natural to do because the West has very successfully presented themselves as a righteous force in the world rather than a run-of-the-mill selfish power like all the rest.
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Strictly speaking NATO has no skin in this game. But they get Putin to commit to an unnecessary war. They watch and try out weapons from a distance. NATO does not need Ukraine.
But Ukraine was never the point, even for NATO. Russia is. The Munroe doctrine. This is why it's a do or die for the Russians. They are fully aware the end goal is to balkanize them into manageable little pieces, further insulating the hegemon from any challenge to its place in global politics. So for them, getting NATO to back off is quite significant. They live to fight another day.
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Ground job is never easy. Russia aim is not to occupy Ukraine but fend off Nato.
This is what most people like Plato/Njuri get wrong. They bought into the lie that Russia was trying to colonize Ukraine and resurrect USSR. You can only buy this if you've zero context in the 8-year war going on there.
Which, to be fair, has been deliberately blocked out in Western media this year. Anyone like Tulsi Gabbard who's attempted to provide this context has been severely punished.
So I don't blame them. Knowing my personality, I'd 100% be toeing the same line if I hadn't sobered up on the sinister side of Western geopolitics since WW2. It's very natural to do because the West has very successfully presented themselves as a righteous force in the world rather than a run-of-the-mill selfish power like all the rest.
And they are in one sense. They stake the high moral ground, and often open themselves up to scrutiny on that basis. Do they live up to it? Sometimes, but not always. For example, the 90s US intervention in Somalia happened for purely humanitarian reasons(nothing in it for them). Just go in, make sure the food gets to the starving masses.
The "other powers" claim no such moral ground and therefore leave no opening for accountability beyond self interest.
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Strictly speaking NATO has no skin in this game. But they get Putin to commit to an unnecessary war. They watch and try out weapons from a distance. NATO does not need Ukraine.
But Ukraine was never the point, even for NATO. Russia is. The Munroe doctrine. This is why it's a do or die for the Russians. They are fully aware the end goal is to balkanize them into manageable little pieces, further insulating the hegemon from any challenge to its place in global politics. So for them, getting NATO to back off is quite significant. They live to fight another day.
If you think it's do or die for the Russians, what about the Ukrainians? I hate this analogy, but Ukraine is like a rape victim. I am not going to question how they choose to respond. If they choose to give in, sure, it's their call. If they choose to fight, it's entirely legitimate and understable.
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I won't respond to you Nowayhaha.
For the purpose of this war Russia is defeated. Nato members has shown that they can walk the talk in terms of supporting allies who are non members. Ukraine performance and Russian military incompetence has opened a new era for the world. Russia has finally shown the world its under belly. It has proven that it is an empty bear. No country going forward will take Russian aggression lying down.
China must make a very important strategic decision here. To go with defeated Russia or to crawl back to the western sphere of influence. China can't hide anymore it tipped her hand early in this battle thinking Russia would win quickly now Russia is blackmailing them asking for assistance. India is under cutting China by buying Russian oil.
Anyway 21 days on Ukraine has won and Russian troops should be given a chance by their commander in chief putin to go back and regroup. It is evil to let your troops fight a battle with no clear goals and no good outcome.
China called to buttress Russia falling giant. China respond cannot go along, will fill gap by being the bear Russia failed to be. Economically China capable. Military as well but will not try Taiwan yet. Definitely will in future and will call Russia to help.
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And they are in one sense. They stake the high moral ground, and often open themselves up to scrutiny on that basis. Do they live up to it? Sometimes, but not always. For example, the 90s US intervention in Somalia happened for purely humanitarian reasons(nothing in it for them). Just go in, make sure the food gets to the starving masses.
The "other powers" claim no such moral ground and therefore leave no opening for accountability beyond self interest.
I just cannot believe this at all about the West, Termie, and it's not my fault. They keep proving themselves scoundrels over and over again.
Even take JUST this Ukraine issue. They literally engineer a coup to kick out an elected govt that will end NATO ambitions in the Ukraine, rave up their new puppet to tell Russians, their vastly more powerful neighbor, "Yeah we don't give a flying spaghetti about your security concerns; we're joining NATO and may even play with nukes." A war PREDICTABLY breaks out as the Russians act to ensure that never happens, and the West tell Ukrainians they're not risking their skin for them. All this just for a game of trying to check-mate Russia instead of trying to integrate them into EU.
I'm sorry but I have NO way of looking at the govt that behaves this way just because it can as a friend of peace AT ALL. They're a tyrant/mafia, willingly playing roulettes with smaller nations and in the long run, the entire planet.
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Plato, here's a non-Western, non-Russian report on these talks:
Virtually the only place on YouTube with an independent take on Russia/Ukraine in English.
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If you think it's do or die for the Russians, what about the Ukrainians? I hate this analogy, but Ukraine is like a rape victim. I am not going to question how they choose to respond. If they choose to give in, sure, it's their call. If they choose to fight, it's entirely legitimate and understable.
I understand the solidarity with an invaded country that has not attacked anyone. But I have a hard time seeing anybody but Ukrainian citizens as the victims here. Their govt is another matter.
Now, if you know your decision is putting your neighbor in peril and that they have the means to tackle you if you insist on that decision, why insist on it? Because (1) you don't give a flying spaghetti what happens to your neighbor and (2) you think you have a way to avoid the tackle they keep promising. Enter Western/NATO lies.
Which only make this government criminally irresponsible as far as their own population is concerned or just very foolish. Why turn your country into the chessboard upon which NATO/Russia play their chess?
So I agree with you about the people but not the govt. We have no way of saying these people want to be in this position. We have to believe this govt and I really don't.
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If you think it's do or die for the Russians, what about the Ukrainians? I hate this analogy, but Ukraine is like a rape victim. I am not going to question how they choose to respond. If they choose to give in, sure, it's their call. If they choose to fight, it's entirely legitimate and understable.
I understand the solidarity with an invaded country that has not attacked anyone. But I have a hard time seeing anybody but Ukrainian citizens as the victims here. Their govt is another matter.
I don't understand this. Zelensky is their representative. He is the face of Ukrainians.
Now, if you know your decision is putting your neighbor in peril and that they have the means to tackle you if you insist on that decision, why insist on it? Because (1) you don't give a flying spaghetti what happens to your neighbor and (2) you think you have a way to avoid the tackle they keep promising. Enter Western/NATO lies.
Which only make this government criminally irresponsible as far as their own population is concerned or just very foolish. Why turn your country into the chessboard upon which NATO/Russia play their chess?
So I agree with you about the people but not the govt. We have no way of saying these people want to be in this position. We have to believe this govt and I really don't.
Because I think Ukraine has the right to do what it wants within international law, and in principle, I just can't reconcile with this view morally and legally. The only way I can see it as relevant is if I think entirely in terms of material benefit. The Ukrainians from what I can tell think there is more to life than just surviving under Russia's shadow. Maybe they are crazy, but people have done crazier things, including flying planes into buildings for their dignity. Some people would rather die than be slaves.
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Ground job is never easy. Russia aim is not to occupy Ukraine but fend off Nato.
This is what most people like Plato/Njuri get wrong. They bought into the lie that Russia was trying to colonize Ukraine and resurrect USSR. You can only buy this if you've zero context in the 8-year war going on there.
Which, to be fair, has been deliberately blocked out in Western media this year. Anyone like Tulsi Gabbard who's attempted to provide this context has been severely punished.
So I don't blame them. Knowing my personality, I'd 100% be toeing the same line if I hadn't sobered up on the sinister side of Western geopolitics since WW2. It's very natural to do because the West has very successfully presented themselves as a righteous force in the world rather than a run-of-the-mill selfish power like all the rest.
Keep on using crazies like Tulsi to support your antiwestern stand. Usa has provided ukraine with weapons to stop a poorly motivated and equipped army. After this war usa walks out as the king of the hill. No one will ever attempt what Russia has. Putin couldn't even listen to his own Intel guys. His own may have leaked all his plans to Americans and Ukrainians. I just hope you would relocate to China or Russia and go live in those communist utopias
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Noway watch this interview of Colonel McGregor on the reality happening in this war.
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If you frame it as Russia vs Ukraine - you have Russia as laughing stock
But if you have Russia vs Nato - then Nato is the failure
There is too much propaganda to tell the difference. Overall goal is if Ukraine is joining Nato or going neutral/demilitarized. They already lost Crimea and the Donbass/Doneskt regions.
Russia vs Nato is a direct gain for China. That's 2 big battlefronts for the west.
NATO was divided, but now they are together. Militarization will be a priority.
They never thought Putin could be a crazy person until......now
Eastern Europe will be stronger.
Russia will be brain drained, until an anti Putin takes over - that will be another 20yrs
Ukraine will be like S. Korea - vibrant
China gain/loss still undetermined.
Africa and E. Europe will will gain as businesses leave China's strongman.
Lastly, Robina will join Ruto.
Strictly speaking NATO has no skin in this game. But they get Putin to commit to an unnecessary war. They watch and try out weapons from a distance. NATO does not need Ukraine.
All recent conflicts that get Western powers involved covertly have this central theme. If you are the age of Termie or myself who have been around the block, blogging for so many years and acquiring the requisite wisdom, Western powers use these wars to gauge, how effective their arsenal of weapons are in live combat. Russia must be realizing just how dead stock some of her weapons are. Stockpile only weapons of the future. I am sure those nations who created Javelins and Nlaw anti tank missiles are pleased with the performance. Beyond testing of weapons, always remember America only cares about its direct interest. All other debates on recent conflicts, this one of Ukraine included, are largely moot.
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Ukrainian gov are the most stupid leaders ever elected and have invited this war..and now they about to enter a treaty that colonize them officially under Russia.They will never talk about EU or NATO..and they should not have in the first place.The end result of this conflict is Russia colonize Ukraine.They called for Russia to come beat them...they will lose part of the country and rest will be a vassal state of Russia.. with Russia military staying there for years...
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Ukrainian gov are the most stupid leaders ever elected and have invited this war..and now they about to enter a treaty that colonize them officially under Russia.They will never talk about EU or NATO..and they should not have in the first place.The end result of this conflict is Russia colonize Ukraine.They called for Russia to come beat them...they will lose part of the country and rest will be a vassal state of Russia.. with Russia military staying there for years...
Unfortunately you are listening to your own delusional noises in your head. War is not Moass that you can play around with at the comfort of your PC,War analysis needs in-depth thinking creating several scenarios and outcomes not for mursik level thinking .
Putin is more worried about his own people that are slowly rising against him.Like I said he wll end up overthrowned or assassinated in 2 years time from now. His own people will take care of him
https://www.reuters.com/world/putin-warns-russia-against-pro-western-traitors-scum-2022-03-16/
I won't be surprised if Putin even ends up at ICC together with gatheca at some point in the future ,Russians may use him as a bargain tool for sanctions to be removed
At the moment he is calling for more volunteers after his first army was chewed up. He is now relying on soviet era equipment after his modern equipment has been used up or destroyed in the war.
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/top-putin-ally-says-ukraine-war-has-been-slower-than-expected-2022-03-14/
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Delusional rant. I am interested in the end goal. Ukraine are negotiating never to say the word NATO again and also never to have weapons. They are officially Russian biatches. They feel betrayed by NATO & US who have been all talk and no show. In the meantime I dont consider citizen army of volunteers in Ukraine erecting sandbags in cities as any threat to Russian army. This has been a smart war by Russia - not shock and awe - that they are capable of - heavy bombardment - but occupying Ukraine and preparing to stay for sometime - as they slice and dice Ukraine - taking parts of it back to Russia - and the remainder will be a vassal state like Austria or Sweden or Germany - not allowed to have strong army.
End goal - what Russia-Ukraine treaty will sign on. That is whole point of this beating by Russia of Ukraine. The spanking doesnt have to go overboard by killing thousand of people or bombing cities to smithereens - the end goal is for Ukraine to forget about NATO and for Russia to control it...and they are about to put paper to pen.
Ukrainian gov are the most stupid leaders ever elected and have invited this war..and now they about to enter a treaty that colonize them officially under Russia.They will never talk about EU or NATO..and they should not have in the first place.The end result of this conflict is Russia colonize Ukraine.They called for Russia to come beat them...they will lose part of the country and rest will be a vassal state of Russia.. with Russia military staying there for years...
Unfortunately you are listening to your own delusional noises in your head. War is not Moass that you can play around with at the comfort of your PC,War analysis needs in-depth thinking creating several scenarios and outcomes not for mursik level thinking .
Putin is more worried about his own people that are slowly rising against him.Like I said he wll end up overthrowned or assassinated in 2 years time from now. His own people will take care of him
https://www.reuters.com/world/putin-warns-russia-against-pro-western-traitors-scum-2022-03-16/
I won't be surprised if Putin even ends up at ICC together with gatheca at some point in the future ,Russians may use him as a bargain tool for sanctions to be removed
At the moment he is calling for more volunteers after his first army was chewed up. He is now relying on soviet era equipment after his modern equipment has been used up or destroyed in the war.
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/top-putin-ally-says-ukraine-war-has-been-slower-than-expected-2022-03-14/
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NATO IS AVOIDING WAR WITH RUSSIA FOR YOUR SAKE.
NATO's decision to not close the sky over Ukraine is correct. A shooting war between Russia and NATO should be avoided as much as possible and the way the US has been evading that confrontation is simply the right thing to do.If you think it is cowardice, it is because you don't know and this post will brief you.
Let me set it out in a very brief way.
There are three types of wars:
1. Conventional war - which is fought according to the rules of war: Don't kill civilians and children, don't hit civilian infrastructure, don't shoot surrendering enemy soldiers and PoWs, etc.
2. Total war - which Russia seems to be fighting in Ukraine right now and which it fought against Chechnya in Grozny. In a total war, you just kill everybody you see and destroy everything on your way.
3. Nuclear war.
On a normal day, Russia will fall quickly of NATO engages it in a conventional or a total war and Putin has admitted that much in a speech recently. There is no contest in that. NATO's firepower is extensive and its generals are top level.
However, the mismatch will force Russia to quickly resort to 'final-solution' tactics while it can - it will launch its arsenal of nuclear weapons. Lets be quickly reminded that since the 1970s, both the West and Russia have thousands of nuclear tipped missiles already programmed to hit targets in all major cities on each other's soil. With just the press of a button, those missiles will fly out and head for their targets.
But there are difficulties. Both sides have watchmen that are not sleeping. Every inch of Russian territory is under a 24/7 scan for missile launch by the West, using flare and heat detection satellites. Russia has the same system.
The moment a rocket motor ignites (most missiles are powered by rocket motors. Cruise missiles use air-breathing jet engines - pretty much the same used by aeroplanes, but they could be ramjets or jets with afterburners. Cruise missiles are usually called precision guided weapons), they know in the West. These missile scouts will start to track the missile or missiles and note their number, velocity and heading. They have about 10 minutes to confirm and reconfirm that missiles are being launched against the West. In this case they will mostly be ICBMs (Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles). Well, despite the heavy name, they are actually simple orbital rockets that can get into orbit and then re-enter the earth at the appropriate location - above their targets. At this point, they will release their thermonuclear warheads or bombs (all modern nuclear bombs carry thermonuclear warheads, that is, warheads that uses a small hydrogen bomb to initiate a chain reaction in its main fission bomb of Plutonium or Uranium). These warheads are shaped like cones and they are about 1.2m in height with a base diameter of about 800mm. The real active ingredient, Uranium or Plutonium inside the conical device is not bigger than a football but they are packed with the horrendous power of creation itself, the power of the nucleus of an atom called the Strong Force.
Two things will then happen in line with strictly established procedures it call it Battle Order.
Once a missile attack is detected, the US will immediately move it's president, his family, Pentagon chiefs and a few citizens into a bunker that is about 2 kilometers below the ground and under a mountain. It is suspended upon springs so it can withstand tectonic forces from a nuclear blast on the surface. The bunker contains provisions for two years to sustain the occupants. (I have seen the image somewhere about 25 years ago in maybe Times Magazine). Reporters taken there were blindfolded and flown for hours so they will not have a clear sense of direction. The location is totally secret but it is suspected that it is Nevada. It was not dug out directly but a lateral tunnel was created several miles away to this subterranean site.
1. The West will launch countermeasures at these warheads. (Usually, they will be 13 to 17 on each ICBM and at this stage, they are in their terminal altitude in space). This is the threat level the American THAAD anti-missile system is designed to contain. It will fly into space and try to steer kill vehicles into those warheads and of course, the success rate will understandably only be partial. Some will end up successfully re-entering the earth and dive (under zero power) for their targets. At this point, the Patriot system will come into action and try to swat the warheads. The Patriot complex deals with missiles within the atmosphere.
2. Simultaneously NATO will give orders for its own missile launches and within minutes, you will see missiles rise from silos and from submarines heading East to attack preset targets. B-52s ('Stratofortress'), B1, ('Spirit') and B2 ('Bones') -all long range bombers will take off from the US, Germany and probably Japan armed with hydrogen and Plutonium bombs and head for Russia. There are also about 1,500 nuclear weapons on each side that are currently in the field, mingled with conventional weapons but known to commanders. Those are probably the most dangerous of all these arsenal of nuclear weapons because they are already and permanently dispersed in the field. All - everything will be launched within just about 30 minutes in this make or break final combat.
Everything described above from the moment one side launches its nuclear weapons will not take more than 45 to 60 minutes and it is all over. If the attack takes place at night, right here in Nigeria, if you look northwest towards Europe or east northwest towards the United States, or northeast towards Russia, you will actually see a dull glow in your night sky though you won't hear the thunder of the explosions.
The next three days or even a week will be normal although wind patterns may have become suspect. Thereafter, you will observe that the sky is getting darker and midday seems like dusk. That is the cloud of a global thermonuclear warfare.
The sun will be screened out for months and plants will die off. This will lead to global famine, first step. Of course, global trade is already gone and the world has reverted to primitive levels. The Internet is no more and telephone services have become epileptic.
Next will come the global outbreak of all forms of cancers from radiation carried around the world by the cloud earlier described. Death will become so much more desirable than life that those alive will curse their lot.
There will be survivors of course: those who have been hidden away in military grade silos and have ample supplies to carry them for about two years.
Those who just manage to go through about three years of life as foragers and scavengers and somehow have not been killed by skin cancer, blood cancer and other forms of metastasis. They are the ones that will populate the new world and begin to try to establish a new civilization.
Now you have an idea why NATO keeps avoiding fighting with Russia. It is simply to keep YOU alive.
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Noway watch this interview of Colonel McGregor on the reality happening in this war.
I love them over at the Grey Zone! Max Blumenthal and Aaron Mate are the bomb!!!
Mate actually travelled to Syria for ground research and gave evidence to the UN investigations on the Chemical attacks. I love him! He's Canadian and Jewish and the kind of leftist I identify with: genuinely anti-war/anti-imperialist.
He also humiliated Rachel Maddow on her Twitter for her Russiagate rubbish :D with videos of all the lies she was spewing against the facts established, proving MSNBC was lying, i.e. no corrections, no retractions; just lie and move on hoping no one notices and when they do, don't respond to the critiques made or facts raised, just pivot, aka curbstomp them with the cancel culture bs. And she couldn't answer back AT ALL. It was glorious!
They are the only part of Western politics I respect. Not Rethugs or Libs, just genuinely anti-mindless-war folk. People who see the world as humans first and nations second, despite enjoying the privilege of belonging to the current hegemon.
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Well, I've seen the interview halfway through. Will finish later. So far it matches my own reading about the whole thing! Very reassuring to hear it from a Pentagon-experienced mind with extensive knowledge of war in general, plus Russia, Ukraine, and geopolitics.
Summary:
1) An unbelievable amount of censorship in Western media, control of narrative, and wishful thinking in place of actual reporting.
2) The West's aim seems to be to stall/avoid peace talks, keep the war dragging as long as possible in hopes of destroying the Russian state and Putin through sanctions/isolation etc.
3) Putin ordered all efforts to be made to avoid civilian casualties and unnecessary property destruction. In addition, the Russians have avoided the centre of Ukraine where the crops/fields are, which is where planting will happen in the spring. Evidence showing they have no interest in mindlessly destroying Ukraine.
4) The goal of the operation seems to be to destroy the Ukrainian forces themselves (about 60,000 troops) and control the territory, not to occupy it.
5) All evidence points to Russia having already won this war:
*They have destroyed all Ukrainian forces except those they have surrounded, both in the East and West. This war is finished in that they essentially control everything of importance.
(He doesn't mention this but Russia has also been destroying all weapons manufacturing capability/facilities, which I think goes with this aim of destroying their fighters).
*They've captured huge amount of Western weapons given to Ukrainians.
*Only the Azov battalion of about 3,000 giving them trouble, holding civilian hostages, refusing to let them leave the city they occupy. There's concern that this place will experience the level of bloodshed that has been avoided elsewhere and it's a shame.
Watch the rest there. :)
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Affirm my thinking of Russia gameplan. End of day Ukraine will never have army - Russia will run it. The western propaganda is over the top.
Well, I've seen the interview halfway through. Will finish later. So far it matches my own reading about the whole thing! Very reassuring to hear it from a Pentagon-experienced mind with extensive knowledge of war in general, plus Russia, Ukraine, and geopolitics.
Summary:
-An unbelievable amount of censorship in Western media, control of narrative, and wishful thinking in place of actual reporting.
-The West's aim seems to be to stall/avoid peace talks, keep the war dragging as long as possible in hopes of destroying the Russian state and Putin through sanctions/isolation etc.
-Putin ordered all efforts to be made to avoid civilian casualties and unnecessary property destruction. In addition, the Russians have avoided the centre of Ukraine where the crops/fields are, which is where planting will happen in the spring. Evidence showing they have no interest in mindlessly destroying Ukraine.
-The goal of the operation seems to be to destroy the Ukrainian forces themselves (about 60,000 troops) and control the territory, not to occupy it.
-All evidence points to Russia having already won this war:
*They have destroyed all Ukrainian forces except those they have surrounded, both in the East and West. This war is finished in that they essentially control everything of importance. (He doesn't mention this but Russia has also been destroying all weapons manufacturing capability/facilities, which I think goes with this aim of destroying their fighters).
*They've captured huge amount of Western weapons given to Ukrainians.
*Only the Azov battalion of about 3,000 giving them trouble, holding civilian hostages, refusing to let them leave the city they occupy. There's concern that this place will experience the level of bloodshed that has been avoided elsewhere and it's a shame.
Watch the rest there. :)
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Affirm my thinking of Russia gameplan. End of day Ukraine will never have army - Russia will run it. The western propaganda is over the top.
Yep, pretty much his conclusion.
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NATO IS AVOIDING WAR WITH RUSSIA FOR YOUR SAKE.
NATO's decision to not close the sky over Ukraine is correct. A shooting war between Russia and NATO should be avoided as much as possible and the way the US has been evading that confrontation is simply the right thing to do.If you think it is cowardice, it is because you don't know and this post will brief you.
Let me set it out in a very brief way.
There are three types of wars:
1. Conventional war - which is fought according to the rules of war: Don't kill civilians and children, don't hit civilian infrastructure, don't shoot surrendering enemy soldiers and PoWs, etc.
2. Total war - which Russia seems to be fighting in Ukraine right now and which it fought against Chechnya in Grozny. In a total war, you just kill everybody you see and destroy everything on your way.
3. Nuclear war.
On a normal day, Russia will fall quickly of NATO engages it in a conventional or a total war and Putin has admitted that much in a speech recently. There is no contest in that. NATO's firepower is extensive and its generals are top level.
However, the mismatch will force Russia to quickly resort to 'final-solution' tactics while it can - it will launch its arsenal of nuclear weapons. Lets be quickly reminded that since the 1970s, both the West and Russia have thousands of nuclear tipped missiles already programmed to hit targets in all major cities on each other's soil. With just the press of a button, those missiles will fly out and head for their targets.
But there are difficulties. Both sides have watchmen that are not sleeping. Every inch of Russian territory is under a 24/7 scan for missile launch by the West, using flare and heat detection satellites. Russia has the same system.
The moment a rocket motor ignites (most missiles are powered by rocket motors. Cruise missiles use air-breathing jet engines - pretty much the same used by aeroplanes, but they could be ramjets or jets with afterburners. Cruise missiles are usually called precision guided weapons), they know in the West. These missile scouts will start to track the missile or missiles and note their number, velocity and heading. They have about 10 minutes to confirm and reconfirm that missiles are being launched against the West. In this case they will mostly be ICBMs (Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles). Well, despite the heavy name, they are actually simple orbital rockets that can get into orbit and then re-enter the earth at the appropriate location - above their targets. At this point, they will release their thermonuclear warheads or bombs (all modern nuclear bombs carry thermonuclear warheads, that is, warheads that uses a small hydrogen bomb to initiate a chain reaction in its main fission bomb of Plutonium or Uranium). These warheads are shaped like cones and they are about 1.2m in height with a base diameter of about 800mm. The real active ingredient, Uranium or Plutonium inside the conical device is not bigger than a football but they are packed with the horrendous power of creation itself, the power of the nucleus of an atom called the Strong Force.
Two things will then happen in line with strictly established procedures it call it Battle Order.
Once a missile attack is detected, the US will immediately move it's president, his family, Pentagon chiefs and a few citizens into a bunker that is about 2 kilometers below the ground and under a mountain. It is suspended upon springs so it can withstand tectonic forces from a nuclear blast on the surface. The bunker contains provisions for two years to sustain the occupants. (I have seen the image somewhere about 25 years ago in maybe Times Magazine). Reporters taken there were blindfolded and flown for hours so they will not have a clear sense of direction. The location is totally secret but it is suspected that it is Nevada. It was not dug out directly but a lateral tunnel was created several miles away to this subterranean site.
1. The West will launch countermeasures at these warheads. (Usually, they will be 13 to 17 on each ICBM and at this stage, they are in their terminal altitude in space). This is the threat level the American THAAD anti-missile system is designed to contain. It will fly into space and try to steer kill vehicles into those warheads and of course, the success rate will understandably only be partial. Some will end up successfully re-entering the earth and dive (under zero power) for their targets. At this point, the Patriot system will come into action and try to swat the warheads. The Patriot complex deals with missiles within the atmosphere.
2. Simultaneously NATO will give orders for its own missile launches and within minutes, you will see missiles rise from silos and from submarines heading East to attack preset targets. B-52s ('Stratofortress'), B1, ('Spirit') and B2 ('Bones') -all long range bombers will take off from the US, Germany and probably Japan armed with hydrogen and Plutonium bombs and head for Russia. There are also about 1,500 nuclear weapons on each side that are currently in the field, mingled with conventional weapons but known to commanders. Those are probably the most dangerous of all these arsenal of nuclear weapons because they are already and permanently dispersed in the field. All - everything will be launched within just about 30 minutes in this make or break final combat.
Everything described above from the moment one side launches its nuclear weapons will not take more than 45 to 60 minutes and it is all over. If the attack takes place at night, right here in Nigeria, if you look northwest towards Europe or east northwest towards the United States, or northeast towards Russia, you will actually see a dull glow in your night sky though you won't hear the thunder of the explosions.
The next three days or even a week will be normal although wind patterns may have become suspect. Thereafter, you will observe that the sky is getting darker and midday seems like dusk. That is the cloud of a global thermonuclear warfare.
The sun will be screened out for months and plants will die off. This will lead to global famine, first step. Of course, global trade is already gone and the world has reverted to primitive levels. The Internet is no more and telephone services have become epileptic.
Next will come the global outbreak of all forms of cancers from radiation carried around the world by the cloud earlier described. Death will become so much more desirable than life that those alive will curse their lot.
There will be survivors of course: those who have been hidden away in military grade silos and have ample supplies to carry them for about two years.
Those who just manage to go through about three years of life as foragers and scavengers and somehow have not been killed by skin cancer, blood cancer and other forms of metastasis. They are the ones that will populate the new world and begin to try to establish a new civilization.
Now you have an idea why NATO keeps avoiding fighting with Russia. It is simply to keep YOU alive.
This Naija man is right about the dangers of nuclear war, even if a bit cartoonish about "the press of a button". Nukes, especially where Russia and USA is involved are just a Samson option. An admission that your adversary is out of your league. In that respect, Russia is more likely to resort to them(if they haven't been too corrupt to keep them funcational :D).
That aside, while there are no automatic "good" or "bad" guys between NATO and Russia, it's not NATO that is slaughtering Ukrainian civilians. When NATO does something similar I call them out too. It's puzzling how quite a few "Global Southerners" are quick to bandwagon on one side or the other. More puzzling is the Putin water carrier - the man is a cartoon villain with nothing to offer. I have seen this on sites like https://www.nairaland.com/7033660/putin-mocks-us-western-attempt (https://www.nairaland.com/7033660/putin-mocks-us-western-attempt).
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Here is a more sobering scenario from a nuclear scientist.
https://www.democracynow.org/2022/2/23/the_threat_of_nuclear_war_ukraine
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Meanwhile sactions will soon not be a tool in Western Toolbox
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Meanwhile sactions will soon not be a tool in Western Toolbox
Sanctions are for losers
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Colonel Douglas McGregor, who was nominated by Donald Trump to become US ambassador to Germany in 2019 and failed the nomination because Republican (not Democrats) senators rejected him before even any hearing could take place.
The man is a known hawk and is known to make pro Russia comments on Fox TV that even leave GOP politicians wondering whose interests the man represents. Kindly bring in comments from someone more neutral.
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Colonel Douglas McGregor, who was nominated by Donald Trump to become US ambassador to Germany in 2019 and failed the nomination because Republican (not Democrats) senators rejected him before even any hearing could take place.
The man is a known hawk and is known to make pro Russia comments on Fox TV that even leave GOP politicians wondering whose interests the man represents. Kindly bring in comments from someone more neutral.
To be fair a lot of crackpots on both sides. In 2022, you could drop a cherry picked link to "support" practically any view. Social media is partly to blame for the environment.
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Colonel Douglas McGregor, who was nominated by Donald Trump to become US ambassador to Germany in 2019 and failed the nomination because Republican (not Democrats) senators rejected him before even any hearing could take place.
The man is a known hawk and is known to make pro Russia comments on Fox TV that even leave GOP politicians wondering whose interests the man represents. Kindly bring in comments from someone more neutral.
I posted a while ago several discussions by reputable people who had been warning about the madness from the warmongering and war profiteers including Kissinger, professor Cohen and Colonel Wilkerson who was chief of staff to Colin Powell. Before you dismiss anyone who is against the madness in Washington, Brussels and London please listen to what they are saying and weigh it against the supporters of the mayhem. When you have Victoria Nuland leading the coup in Ukraine back in 2013-2014 then you find out the husband is a defense contractor you have to ask yourself what is the real motivation behind the craziness. Now listen to the current CIA director when he warned in his cable about Russia red line. You have to wonder if he is giving the same candid advice now that he is in the inner circle. Here is the interview.
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I posted a while ago several discussions by reputable people who had been warning about the madness from the warmongering and war profiteers including Kissinger, professor Cohen and Colonel Wilkerson who was chief of staff to Colin Powell. Before you dismiss anyone who is against the madness in Washington, Brussels and London please listen to what they are saying and weigh it against the supporters of the mayhem. When you have Victoria Nuland leading the coup in Ukraine back in 2013-2014 then you find out the husband is a defense contractor you have to ask yourself what is the real motivation behind the craziness. Now listen to the current CIA director when he warned in his cable about Russia red line. You have to wonder if he is giving the same candid advice now that he is in the inner circle. Here is the interview.
The colonel is very sharp, knows his material, and seems to be an anti-war voice. I'm not surprised Republican Senators and Fox treat him like a whacko.
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For those cheering the western good boys here is an investment opportunity for you if you want to share in the blood money.
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/as-russia-presses-its-war-with-ukraine-here-are-10-aerospace-and-defense-stocks-expected-to-rise-up-to-39-11646327075
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According to pro-Western folk, Putin is a thug but this guy is 👍! As are Hillary and Obama. Only American thugs allowed are Trump and Bush.
These American non-thugs do horrific things while singing "democracy, human rights etc." They are just misguided but ultimately well-intentioned.
Putin does similarly horrific things while singing "Denazification and protection of Western border," and he's not only ill-intentioned . . . He's straightup Hitler :D
This is the meaning of 'objectivity' and 'non-insanity' under the current zeitgeist and it's heavily fortified echo-chamber.
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More footage. Why Obama picked him as VP baffles me to this day.
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According to pro-Western folk, Putin is a thug but this guy is 👍! As are Hillary and Obama. Only American thugs allowed are Trump and Bush.
These American non-thugs do horrific things while singing "democracy, human rights etc." They are just misguided but ultimately well-intentioned.
Putin does similarly horrific things while singing "Denazification and protection of Western border," and he's not only ill-intentioned . . . He's straightup Hitler :D
This is the meaning of 'objectivity' and 'non-insanity' under the current zeitgeist and it's heavily fortified echo-chamber.
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In 6 more days Russia will run out of funds to sustain Ukraine operations
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The war in Ukraine might result in a major rethink in military circles whether tanks are worth it. So many cheap toys cooking so many in their expensive tanks.
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Tanks days are over.drones are the new tool. Turkey $1 drone can stop troops movements
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https://www.npr.org/2022/03/17/1087287150/putins-warning-to-anti-war-russians-evokes-stalinist-purges
Moi era tactics are back in Russia. It’ll only get worse…
Lots of army will desert on the pretext of being war prisoners
capital flight will be next.
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More footage. Why Obama picked him as VP baffles me to this day.
He picked him for precisely the reason you think he shouldn't have: Biden was the only Democrat who could calm Republican neocon jitters about this young lefty negro. Before Obama crushed occupy wall street and essentially betrayed the lefty base that went crazy campaigning for him, before he got in line with traditional American right-wing'ism in 'everything-but-culture,' Biden was his best shot at looking like he was the center without outright throwing away the young base that still believed him by then (2008).
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Yes Russia has tucked its tail in between the legs and ran back to the east. The 331st division an elite paratroopers battalion has suffered almost 3/4 casualties in its push to Kiev,most of the remnants of this division were surrounded in hostmel and liquated, survivors have retreated to belarus. This is a major disaster for Russia every analyst is shocked on the level of defeat Russia has suffered. Putin inner circle is shrinking and just like I predicted it will end up for him in 2-3 years.
The real war even didn't begin,it would have begun when Russians captured Kiev but that's now another story.
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Yes Russia has tucked its tail in between the legs and ran back to the east. The 331st division an elite paratroopers battalion has suffered almost 3/4 casualties in its push to Kiev,most of the remnants of this division were surrounded in hostmel and liquated, survivors have retreated to belarus. This is a major disaster for Russia every analyst is shocked on the level of defeat Russia has suffered. Putin inner circle is shrinking and just like I predicted it will end up for him in 2-3 years.
The real war even didn't begin,it would have begun when Russians captured Kiev but that's now another story.
You're following the predicted spin keener followers predicted two weeks ago. Their analysis was correct about the Russian strategy whereas the Western media's reading (that you guys have been repeating here) was completely wrong. I even posted one such discussion, which thread I'll link.
Back when your 'side' was all gungho about 'Russia is stuck in Kyiv, can't win,' they were like nope! They've surrounded Kyiv and are not attacking, just controlling what goes in and out, why? Because their strategy is to prevent the East from getting reinforcement. Once they form a land bridge in the South, they're focussing on the East and completely destroying the last of the forces there. Now they've behaved exactly that way and not remotely close to the assumptions you guys made, which, if they were true, they would've employed air bombardment in Kyiev and immediately they entered Ukraine. Did not even pretend to. Just surrounded and pinned the army there, unable to help their friends in the East or the South.
Duran also said MSM would immediately start spinning this as a retreat because they had been quiet/misleading about what the Russians were doing in the East and South.
So that's three out of three correctly predicted. While everyone lacks raw data due to an active war, this tells me these guys are atleast actually watching and analyzing rather than diving into the misinformation bandwagon.
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Yes Russia has tucked its tail in between the legs and ran back to the east. The 331st division an elite paratroopers battalion has suffered almost 3/4 casualties in its push to Kiev,most of the remnants of this division were surrounded in hostmel and liquated, survivors have retreated to belarus. This is a major disaster for Russia every analyst is shocked on the level of defeat Russia has suffered. Putin inner circle is shrinking and just like I predicted it will end up for him in 2-3 years.
The real war even didn't begin,it would have begun when Russians captured Kiev but that's now another story.
You're following the predicted spin keener followers predicted two weeks ago. Their analysis was correct about the Russian strategy whereas the Western media's reading (that you guys have been repeating here) was completely wrong. I even posted one such discussion, which thread I'll link.
Back when your 'side' was all gungho about 'Russia is stuck in Kyiv, can't win,' they were like nope! They've surrounded Kyiv and are not attacking, just controlling what goes in and out, why? Because their strategy is to prevent the East from getting reinforcement. Once they form a land bridge in the South, they're focussing on the East and completely destroying the last of the forces there. Now they've behaved exactly that way and not remotely close to the assumptions you guys made, which, if they were true, they would've employed air bombardment in Kyiev and immediately they entered Ukraine. Did not even pretend to. Just surrounded and pinned the army there, unable to help their friends in the East or the South.
Duran also said MSM would immediately start spinning this as a retreat because they had been quiet/misleading about what the Russians were doing in the East and South.
So that's three out of three correctly predicted. While everyone lacks raw data due to an active war, this tells me these guys are atleast actually watching and analyzing rather than diving into the misinformation bandwagon.
Poor soul you have been brainwashed by the"burning of straws and clanging metal" doctrine of the Russians.
I cant but feel for you such pity,you are not using your mind to analyze simple things such as"if the Russians attacked and surrounded Kiev to prevent reinforcements in the east,why have they withdrawn now,what have they accomplished,Mariupol in the farthest corner has not fully been captured even by 4 prolonged pincer Russian manuvers for over 1 month. Can I help you answer this mystery,do you ask yourself that maybe the Ruasin calculated if Mariupol took more than a month and thousands of Russian casualties,Taking Kiev would take months more bloodeir if not years? They had to rely on Kadyrovites who are simply modern day suicide bombers to do the donkeys work,we will talk about them and how the chicken will come to roost for Putin later in that detailed thread.
You follow a guy called Duran ,I never heard of,I follow my brain, previous military knowledge and reading academic sources that try to explain Russian military doctrine with live analysis on what's happening in field using Google satellite maps and other tools. I use multiple tools,but in this war I stated from day one Russia is defeated,like said I will write a thread on this so that I can enlighten poor souls like you and noway who believe in hubris.
But I will leave you with this as food for thought,Russian military doctrine is as below;
1)Russian attacks have involve rapid, coordinated attacks attempting to achieve campaign objectives in a very short period of time,this is why they tried to make a blitzkrieg move on Kiev using the 331st battalion that was decimated this remember is an airborne unit,if you see an airborne paratrooper unit this close to a capital city then that a telltail sign on what was the objective, Dear mami ni kama wakati unahara,unajua mara moja tumbo ndio shida na si kichwa dawa unameza za tumbo,from then on no shock and awe could work, for the Russians,they were stuck north of kiev and easy pickings from the drones and NLAWS Javelin ambushes.
2)Russia has heavy emphasis on massed indirect artillery,they use this to bomb the hell out to submission anyone,the tools here include but not limited to, multiple rocket launchers,long range artillery,Tanks,self propelled etc this again works to flatten cities indiscriminately.
When I have time I will educated you on this. Cheers and take it easy girl .
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Njuri you know your stuff. I think you are Sagittarius. They are known to be knowledge seekers