Defeated Russia seeks settlement

[KenyanPlato]

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Usa demands irreversible withdrawal as a minimum. Russia demands netrualuarity from Ukraine and demilitrilization. So war continues. ..

I demands putin's head and repatriation to ukraine using the confiscated 600 billion Russian reserves

[Nowayhaha]

Some people like believing in their own lies lime they have always believed that Raila will be president in2007,2013,2017.only for reality to show them otherwise.


https://www.rt.com/russia/552054-ukraine-peace-deal-russia/

[Nefertiti]

I don't follow this stuff but I see Russia winning because they have no choice. The west and Nato are just shameless bullies. Overall I see China as the real beneficiary. What does Taiwan think now about "protection" by the US against Mainland?

By the way what is "denazification" of Ukraine? Are Russians really treated like Jews?

[KenyanPlato]

I won't respond to you Nowayhaha.

For the purpose of this war Russia is defeated. Nato members has shown that they can walk the talk in terms of supporting allies who are non members. Ukraine performance and Russian military incompetence has opened a new era for the world. Russia has finally shown the world its under belly. It has proven that it is an empty bear. No country going forward will take Russian aggression lying down.

China must make a very important strategic decision here. To go with defeated Russia or to crawl back to the western sphere of influence. China can't hide anymore it tipped her hand early in this battle thinking Russia would win quickly now Russia is blackmailing them asking for assistance. India is under cutting China by buying Russian oil.

Anyway 21 days on Ukraine has won and Russian troops should be given a chance by their commander in chief putin to go back and regroup. It is evil to let your troops fight a battle with no clear goals and no good outcome.

[KenyanPlato]

I don't follow this stuff but I see Russia winning because they have no choice. The west and Nato are just shameless bullies. Overall I see China as the real beneficiary. What does Taiwan think know about "protection" by the US against Mainland?

By the way what is "denazification" of Ukraine? Are Russians really treated like Jews?

China won't attack Taiwan. Russia is looking for a diplomatic exit. The war is not going according to their plans. It was like idi amini..invasion of Tanzania. Boneheaded move that has no clear goal or worthy dying for.

[Nefertiti]

I don't get how Nato wins: is Ukraine going to join Nato? that is the question.

Ukraine is the biggest loser obviously, for accepting to be the geopolitical bait. China wins by exposing US/Nato's unwillingness to commit military defense.

[Nefertiti]

India buys Russian oil not in defiance of China but Nato sanctions.

[RV Pundit]

Ukraine are just stupid to incite this war on their country.

[KenyanPlato]

India buys Russian oil not in defiance of China but Nato sanctions.

I am not sure how these arrangements work. I am sure there is a legal way to defy the sanctions plus India may not have to respect sanctions between usa and Russia. I believe India buys the oil in rupee to rubble exchange thus by passing the need for dollars.  Seems Iran sells their oil too to India and China bypassing sanctions. So then may be kenya or other countries can buy oil from India. Russia is selling at a steep discount

[RV Pundit]

Bahindi lead the world in refining oil and re-exporting.

I am not sure how these arrangements work. I am sure there is a legal way to defy the sanctions plus India may not have to respect sanctions between usa and Russia. I believe India buys the oil in rupee to rubble exchange thus by passing the need for dollars.  Seems Iran sells their oil too to India and China bypassing sanctions. So then may be kenya or other countries can buy oil from India. Russia is selling at a steep discount

[Nowayhaha]

No need to engage you , you are beyond redemption. Some tweets will do the necessary.

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I won't respond to you Nowayhaha.

For the purpose of this war Russia is defeated. Nato members has shown that they can walk the talk in terms of supporting allies who are non members. Ukraine performance and Russian military incompetence has opened a new era for the world. Russia has finally shown the world its under belly. It has proven that it is an empty bear. No country going forward will take Russian aggression lying down.

China must make a very important strategic decision here. To go with defeated Russia or to crawl back to the western sphere of influence. China can't hide anymore it tipped her hand early in this battle thinking Russia would win quickly now Russia is blackmailing them asking for assistance. India is under cutting China by buying Russian oil.

Anyway 21 days on Ukraine has won and Russian troops should be given a chance by their commander in chief putin to go back and regroup. It is evil to let your troops fight a battle with no clear goals and no good outcome.

[Nowayhaha]

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[Njuri Ncheke]

Indeed Russia is now a laughing stock all over the world anyone supporting them needs his head mental state recalibrated as they are surely under influence of some intoxication.
Ruasia has lost the war ,sijui lunch in kiev in 2 days to other ridiculous statements. Russia will become weaker and disintegrate quickly. I give Putin just 2 years before he faces his own people

[mankind]

   
 Njuri you are believing too much propaganda. Let me give you a little summary and relevant links. The war in Ukraine is already a war between NATO and Russia only that NATO is doing it discreetly because they are afraid of a direct fight despite the hubris. Today if war breaks out directly you wont believe how many of the NATO countries that would be quick to assert their own independent policy. To be clear Russia invading Ukraine is despicable but unavoidable. NATO told kids to go throwing stones in a police station with false promises of coming to their aid only to watch on the sidelines as the kids get whipped only providing bigger stones for the kids to continue throwing at the same police. If you know how to track planes just check how this  and many other US planes plus drones have been flying close to the action. There is a rumour that some of the drones are actually being flown by the CIA. Try using flight radar or ADS B Exchange and you will get a clearer picture of the behind the scenes covert action.
   
  https://simpleflying.com/flightradar24-most-tracked-plane-boeing-rc-135/

  https://www.flightradar24.com/blog/a-look-at-some-military-activity-in-airspace-around-ukraine/

     Russia will definitely come out with lots of scars but one thing is for sure several things will have changed forever starting with the US dominance around the world, the status of NATO and the world economy at large. The dollar will lose its power as a tool of hegemony . When you have China, India and Pakistan not supporting the madness while Saudi crown prince is snubbing Biden's calls as the Saudis talk of  selling oil in Renminbi then those of us who understand economics will tell you a disaster is coming . Hopefully people stop cheering this madness from both sides and see the bigger picture plus implications.

      https://www.newsweek.com/zelensky-nato-russia-putin-war-ukraine-1688145
   
    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/opec-chief-says-theres-no-124238149.html?guce_referrer=ahr0chm6ly93d3cuz29vz2xllmnvbs8&guce_referrer_sig=aqaaalliel2zvvlr1m452mhotbisviowdd2tglc6dlo3vflkqzgo9v2tzhtypswfs4criw94bxmbov51hiyysguaowcbuid3sxtrqdsfazucp1suzxkasmk0ac605hrsl9ek6ebycecemi6iir8eeyfwk-ebgoy8pp-t0mohvikcpj3k#:~:text=Business%20Insider-,OPEC%20chief%20says%20there's%20'no%20capacity%20in%20the%20world'%20that,a%20day%20in%20oil%20supply&text=OPEC's%20secretary%20general%20said%20there,the%20loss%20of%20Russian%20supply.

      https://news.bitcoin.com/imf-warns-ongoing-war-in-europe-will-have-a-severe-impact-on-the-global-economy/

     https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/saudi-arabia-considers-accepting-yuan-chinese-oil-sales

[Georgesoros]

NATO was divided, but now they are together. Militarization will be a priority.
They never thought Putin could be a crazy person until......now
Eastern Europe will be stronger.
Russia will be brain drained, until an anti Putin takes over - that will be another 20yrs
Ukraine will be like S. Korea - vibrant
China gain/loss still undetermined.
Africa and E. Europe will will gain as businesses leave China's strongman.
Lastly, Robina will join Ruto.

[Dear Mami]

China won't attack Taiwan. Russia is looking for a diplomatic exit. The war is not going according to their plans. It was like idi amini..invasion of Tanzania. Boneheaded move that has no clear goal or worthy dying for.

Be4 the war, basically for eight years straight since the 2014 coup, Russia made demands:
1) Ukraine must be neutral and NEVER join NATO
2) Ukraine must not have an army
3) Ukraine must allow Russian speakers in Ukraine to speak Russian and stop mistreating them
4) The two independent territories that broke off from Ukraine must be allowed to be independent countries.
5) Ukraine must recognize Crimea as part of Russia

Ukraine response: "FU! We're joining NATO and we'll play with nukes on top of that, and if you dare try and stop us, daddy NATO will beat you up!"

Today, 21 days after beating, Ukraine are discussing PERMANENT neutrality and independence of the two areas already, after refusing to do so for EIGHT years while drunk on "US will protect us" hot air.

So Russia made demands, were rebuffed, threatened a war, were dismissed, launched a war, and now will in all likelihood walk away with almost everything they asked for eight years. 

And you pro-West fanatics want us to make the utterly irrational conclusion that Russia is the one failing here.
 

[Nefertiti]

Seems Plato takes CNN or BBC news at face value. Those are the worst liars in the world.

No need to engage you , you are beyond redemption. Some tweets will do the necessary.

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[Dear Mami]

Ukraine are just stupid to incite this war on their country.

100%. Now they're talking about giving Russia what they wanted but with a wrecked country instead of one intact. And the West is all hype about this most foolish of all presidents being a hero.

[Nefertiti]

 

If you frame it as Russia vs Ukraine - you have Russia as laughing stock
But if you have Russia vs Nato - then Nato is the failure

There is too much propaganda to tell the difference. Overall goal is if Ukraine is joining Nato or going neutral/demilitarized. They already lost Crimea and the Donbass/Doneskt regions.

Russia vs Nato is a direct gain for China. That's 2 big battlefronts  for the west.

NATO was divided, but now they are together. Militarization will be a priority.
They never thought Putin could be a crazy person until......now
Eastern Europe will be stronger.
Russia will be brain drained, until an anti Putin takes over - that will be another 20yrs
Ukraine will be like S. Korea - vibrant
China gain/loss still undetermined.
Africa and E. Europe will will gain as businesses leave China's strongman.
Lastly, Robina will join Ruto.

[Dear Mami]

I don't get how Nato wins: is Ukraine going to join Nato? that is the question.

Ukraine is the biggest loser obviously, for accepting to be the geopolitical bait. China wins by exposing US/Nato's unwillingness to commit military defense.

I have the same view.

Anyone fooling themselves that China will let Taiwan go are a victim of looking at everything through Western lenses. China was never going to invade Taiwan tomorrow. They're waiting until they have sufficient superiority against the almighty US and it's dollar. The VERY next day they achieve it, Taiwan will be reunified by force (if they resist) and the US will do absolutely nothing to stop it. This was always the plan and nothing in the Ukraine issue has happened to change it. If anything, it's encouraged this though they were always going to do this anyway.

By the way what is "denazification" of Ukraine? Are Russians really treated like Jews?

I think they want the likes of Azov battalion and affiliates removed completely from all aspects of govt, from military to the three arms.