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Sagana Updates
« on: January 30, 2021, 02:37:18 PM »
UHURU
"The you hear them call me dynasty just best i was born by Kenyatta. Who chooses where he wants to be born? Tell them to stop insulting me, they will know where votes come from next year.You all remember how things were in 2017 and the repeat election.I feel so sad when I see people speak the way they speak today. There are some people here, who i can tell you what they went through in 2017 and i had to convince them, appeal to them not to revenge.you hear them from top of the vehicles brag about what has been done: roads, water, education as if such work is done from those rallies. That work is done from state house, where you sent me.Tell them to stop milking with my 'nappier grass'..

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Re: Sagana Updates
« Reply #1 on: January 30, 2021, 02:39:59 PM »
President Uhuru Kenyatta
'...It is important to remind you of where we have come from, since 2007, you all know what happened, i don't want to repeat that story.I remember how some of you seated here were so against our decisions to look for unity in 2007...

"Some people keep saying I made a promise to them, no, i only have a promise and covenant with the people of Kenya. That is the promise I am implementing. Ask your guy why he can't allow me to do my work and keeps coming back for the baton, instead of waiting for his turn...

"mnataka tuongee lugha gani? Lugha zote ni zetu.I want that once we leave here, we speak in one language, in unity and unison...i know today some people are expecting me to come here, speak in anger or insult anyone. Too bad for them, i have no anger or insults.Mine is to have a conversation with you, to chart the way for this region and country".... KENYATTA.

PRESIDENT
"You see them here come to tell you, ooh you have been neglected and throwing some few coins your way to hoodwink you yet it's the same money they have looted,your resources. Take that money when it comes, but don't be blinded or misled.you remember how they claimed to have been left out of the handshake. Remember how in Bomas i said how they involved and even nominated members to the BBI team? The truth must be told.If they really care about the hustlers, let's say in mathare Nairobi, why would they oppose that revenue sharing formula? What is the problem with taking what BBI is offering us, then wait for whatever else they are promising us in future when they get into power? If these people care about you and this region, why would they the other day oppose the revenue sharing formula yet it was keen on solving the problem of skewed resource allocation?

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Re: Sagana Updates
« Reply #2 on: January 30, 2021, 03:08:09 PM »
Uhuru does not understand that Mt Kenyas problem is just Raila -period . He instulted My Kenyans in the past calling them shenzi , the other day he told them they should forget about leadership in Kenya . You cant abandon people who voted for you thrice in 8 years and come the last year without any benefits  telling them their solution is BBI . Well if Uhuru is so desperate to be loved by the other regions and pas BBI , it can also happen by Mt Kenya abstaining in the referendum , their in Uhuru gets his BBI while Mt Kenya have their say as they wait for 2022 and we see if Kenyans will respect or think Uhuru is Mt Kenyas Kingpin the way he wants people to think.
Uhuru can take this to the bank , Mt Kenya wont support any place Raila is in - Same as happened with Moi refer to 1992 , 1997 elections and the one Uhuru was supported by MOI 2002 elections


President Uhuru Kenyatta
'...It is important to remind you of where we have come from, since 2007, you all know what happened, i don't want to repeat that story.I remember how some of you seated here were so against our decisions to look for unity in 2007...

"Some people keep saying I made a promise to them, no, i only have a promise and covenant with the people of Kenya. That is the promise I am implementing. Ask your guy why he can't allow me to do my work and keeps coming back for the baton, instead of waiting for his turn...

"mnataka tuongee lugha gani? Lugha zote ni zetu.I want that once we leave here, we speak in one language, in unity and unison...i know today some people are expecting me to come here, speak in anger or insult anyone. Too bad for them, i have no anger or insults.Mine is to have a conversation with you, to chart the way for this region and country".... KENYATTA.

PRESIDENT
"You see them here come to tell you, ooh you have been neglected and throwing some few coins your way to hoodwink you yet it's the same money they have looted,your resources. Take that money when it comes, but don't be blinded or misled.you remember how they claimed to have been left out of the handshake. Remember how in Bomas i said how they involved and even nominated members to the BBI team? The truth must be told.If they really care about the hustlers, let's say in mathare Nairobi, why would they oppose that revenue sharing formula? What is the problem with taking what BBI is offering us, then wait for whatever else they are promising us in future when they get into power? If these people care about you and this region, why would they the other day oppose the revenue sharing formula yet it was keen on solving the problem of skewed resource allocation?

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Re: Sagana Updates
« Reply #3 on: January 30, 2021, 03:16:00 PM »
Look like desperate Uhuru will go at whole length. Next will be oathing and mungiki. But are Kikuyus ready for war. I doubt. So they will abandoned Uhuru war cry.

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Re: Sagana Updates
« Reply #4 on: January 30, 2021, 03:42:16 PM »
Oh, Please! kikuyus are not going to war for Ruto.  This is January 2021, the elections are in 2022.  You do not win elections a whole year in advance.  Voters are very fickle and crowds the worst indicator this far out.  Also, Ruto needs 90% kikuyu vote, RAO only needs 15%- 20% which he already has and can only increase since the campaign for the presidency has not even began yet.  The problem with Ruto is that he over-jipanga. A sign of an anxiety driven personality. He needs to relax.

Look like desperate Uhuru will go at whole length. Next will be oathing and mungiki. But are Kikuyus ready for war. I doubt. So they will abandoned Uhuru war cry.
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Re: Sagana Updates
« Reply #5 on: January 30, 2021, 03:55:39 PM »
It Raila who need 90% of GEMA having been abandoned by NASA partners - while ODM strongholds are moving to Ruto.
You guys think that Kalonzo, MaDVD are just mark timming ready to endorse Raila again and again and again.
Or that Raila support is constant.

Anyway now Uhuru is asking for political duel on GEMA - and he has chosen the wrong battle - unpopular BBI.
His Lameduckness is dealing with sly nimble Ruto.

Like Uhuru has failed the last 3yrs - now a weaken retiring tiger - is starting the battle with half GEMA leadership out  - and 80% of the people outside.

Hustler movement will bury Uhuru - because he is a lameduck entitled dynasty almost wantint to starting PEV with Kalenjin - and has shameless reduce himself to Kikuyu leader.

Anyway like I told watch Ruto win PORK like the BOSS himself.

Oh, Please! kikuyus are not going to war for Ruto.  This is January 2021, the elections are in 2022.  You do not win elections a whole year in advance.  Voters are very fickle and crowds the worst indicator this far out.  Also, Ruto needs 90% kikuyu vote, RAO only needs 15%- 20% which he already has and can only increase since the campaign for the presidency has not even began yet.  The problem with Ruto is that he over-jipanga. A sign of an anxiety driven personality. He needs to relax.

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Re: Sagana Updates
« Reply #6 on: January 30, 2021, 05:03:49 PM »
It Raila who need 90% of GEMA having been abandoned by NASA partners - while ODM strongholds are moving to Ruto.
You guys think that Kalonzo, MaDVD are just mark timming ready to endorse Raila again and again and again.
Or that Raila support is constant.

Anyway now Uhuru is asking for political duel on GEMA - and he has chosen the wrong battle - unpopular BBI.
His Lameduckness is dealing with sly nimble Ruto.

Like Uhuru has failed the last 3yrs - now a weaken retiring tiger - is starting the battle with half GEMA leadership out  - and 80% of the people outside.

Hustler movement will bury Uhuru - because he is a lameduck entitled dynasty almost wantint to starting PEV with Kalenjin - and has shameless reduce himself to Kikuyu leader.

Anyway like I told watch Ruto win PORK like the BOSS himself.


Pundit, No-Way-Here and Njuri stop living in your own echo chamber and comforting each other here.

Ruto will be mince meat in a short while. He is exposed and isolated and a sure sitting duck. Watch him unravel.

This we predicted long ago... once Uhuru unsheathes his sword; it doesn’t matter what you preach here that he is lame duck and has lost his Mt. Kenya kingpin.... he holds state machinery until his last day in office. Mt. Kenya at worst will be split 50/50; assured of much better returns if Uhuru works the ground.

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Re: Sagana Updates
« Reply #7 on: January 30, 2021, 06:47:14 PM »
First for Uhuru to make headway in GEMA - he has to completely dump Raila.

2ndly he is starting at huge deficit of trust.

3rdly economy is in recession and covid has ravaged Kenyans - gov is therefore unpopular.

Most importantly nobody care what lameduck think. That is why he is now pleading. The threats and insults have dissappeared.

Finally read the open letter by Mps.

Uhuru is the past. BBI even with best intention is already time barred. I don't see how it can be done this year. There is still a long way to go - because court will injunct it at some time.

Pundit, No-Way-Here and Njuri stop living in your own echo chamber and comforting each other here.

Ruto will be mince meat in a short while. He is exposed and isolated and a sure sitting duck. Watch him unravel.

This we predicted long ago... once Uhuru unsheathes his sword; it doesn’t matter what you preach here that he is lame duck and has lost his Mt. Kenya kingpin.... he holds state machinery until his last day in office. Mt. Kenya at worst will be split 50/50; assured of much better returns if Uhuru works the ground.

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Re: Sagana Updates
« Reply #8 on: January 30, 2021, 07:10:00 PM »
It Raila who need 90% of GEMA having been abandoned by NASA partners - while ODM strongholds are moving to Ruto.
You guys think that Kalonzo, MaDVD are just mark timming ready to endorse Raila again and again and again.
Or that Raila support is constant.

Anyway now Uhuru is asking for political duel on GEMA - and he has chosen the wrong battle - unpopular BBI.
His Lameduckness is dealing with sly nimble Ruto.

Like Uhuru has failed the last 3yrs - now a weaken retiring tiger - is starting the battle with half GEMA leadership out  - and 80% of the people outside.

Hustler movement will bury Uhuru - because he is a lameduck entitled dynasty almost wantint to starting PEV with Kalenjin - and has shameless reduce himself to Kikuyu leader.

Anyway like I told watch Ruto win PORK like the BOSS himself.


Pundit, No-Way-Here and Njuri stop living in your own echo chamber and comforting each other here.

Ruto will be mince meat in a short while. He is exposed and isolated and a sure sitting duck. Watch him unravel.

This we predicted long ago... once Uhuru unsheathes his sword; it doesn’t matter what you preach here that he is lame duck and has lost his Mt. Kenya kingpin.... he holds state machinery until his last day in office. Mt. Kenya at worst will be split 50/50; assured of much better returns if Uhuru works the ground.
Very true baba will now sleep walk to PORK carried shoulder high by GEMA on instructions From Uhuru after a very successful Sagana meeting.

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Re: Sagana Updates
« Reply #9 on: January 30, 2021, 09:23:03 PM »
RVP, I am still very confused and conflicted about all this BBI, Ruto campaign, MtK. Is there a reason why the state would be this opposed to Ruto??? I do not like betrayal. Whatever happened btn Ruto and Uhuru...Uhuru threw Ruto under the bus. And listening to Murathe...something about him that looks like mafia. Then there is Raila history. Whatever he touches in our political space, it becomes a mess. Things started going south after the handshake.


It Raila who need 90% of GEMA having been abandoned by NASA partners - while ODM strongholds are moving to Ruto.
You guys think that Kalonzo, MaDVD are just mark timming ready to endorse Raila again and again and again.
Or that Raila support is constant.

Anyway now Uhuru is asking for political duel on GEMA - and he has chosen the wrong battle - unpopular BBI.
His Lameduckness is dealing with sly nimble Ruto.

Like Uhuru has failed the last 3yrs - now a weaken retiring tiger - is starting the battle with half GEMA leadership out  - and 80% of the people outside.

Hustler movement will bury Uhuru - because he is a lameduck entitled dynasty almost wantint to starting PEV with Kalenjin - and has shameless reduce himself to Kikuyu leader.

Anyway like I told watch Ruto win PORK like the BOSS himself.

Oh, Please! kikuyus are not going to war for Ruto.  This is January 2021, the elections are in 2022.  You do not win elections a whole year in advance.  Voters are very fickle and crowds the worst indicator this far out.  Also, Ruto needs 90% kikuyu vote, RAO only needs 15%- 20% which he already has and can only increase since the campaign for the presidency has not even began yet.  The problem with Ruto is that he over-jipanga. A sign of an anxiety driven personality. He needs to relax.

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Re: Sagana Updates
« Reply #10 on: January 30, 2021, 09:43:52 PM »
What is state ;) 

We need to be honest as political analyst divorced from the arena.

Uhuru fell out with Ruto for nothing more than corruption envy. Ruto outstole him.It's like thieves go to rob the bank - everyone is happy with their share of the loot - except two years down the line - they find out while everyone walked away with enough money to last - a lifetime - someone else walked away with even more. People in kenya go to gov principally to make money.

The second reason is like how Saitoti fell out with Moi. Whistle/romour campaign - by likes of Ruto - and curated intelligence - eventually convinced Moi - that Saitoti and Biwott were upto no good. 

Ruto had meticously planned 2022 - and worked to ensure key Mt kenya leaders who could become a problem - were kicked out - and when Tuju-Murathe failed to deliver - Ruto told Uhuru - he'd go to Pangani and sort the mess - and results was obvious - apart from Wairia and Wambora - basically all governors, nearly all senators, Mps - lost Jubilee ticket.

Their fightback is what we are seeing now. The bitter fellows who lost in 2017 blame Ruto - and warmed their way to Uhuru - and hence this big chasm- they are people that work hard to ensure Uhuru-Ruto fallout happened.

But Ruto is very experience in these games - and has managed to deal with Uhuru - basically as a "Raia".

This one will be epic - but Uhuru will sue for peace - because otherwise he will be overseeing Kenya burning down. Ruto is like boxer Ali - you cannot hit him however hard you try - he floats like a butteryfly and stick like bee!

Now big problem is Raila. Raila as desperate as he is - knows he won't sell in GEMA. Uhuru on the rope knows he cannot take Raila to GEMA.

So what will happen in the next few months. Uhuru will try to work with 3rd way alliance - the likes of Kalonzo/maDVD/Gideon/matiangi - otherwise the moment he seen with Raila in GEMA land - all the effort goes to waste.

There is no guessing - can Uhuru deal with Raila and Ruto - he cannot. Raila is now desperately trying to go back to NASA - and re-establish himself as the People President. He is going to attack Uhuru. Uhuru has to distance himself from Raila.

But Uhuru still has the hidden card - he has yet to pronounced his candidate - so people will go soft on him - hoping one of them will be the man.

RVP, I am still very confused and conflicted about all this BBI, Ruto campaign, MtK. Is there a reason why the state would be this opposed to Ruto??? I do not like betrayal. Whatever happened btn Ruto and Uhuru...Uhuru threw Ruto under the bus. And listening to Murathe...something about him that looks like mafia. Then there is Raila history. Whatever he touches in our political space, it becomes a mess. Things started going south after the handshake.

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Re: Sagana Updates
« Reply #11 on: January 31, 2021, 10:35:39 AM »
No mention of useless containment measures which are like a noose on the hustlers and even dynasty businesses. Just ruto, ruto.
Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one ~ Thomas Paine

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« Reply #12 on: January 31, 2021, 12:58:27 PM »
Wa Njambi,
So it was not a problem when Kibaki betrayed Raila but it is not okay now that Ouru is betraying Ruto?
You know bias is a bad thing. Even if you dislike Raila, lean on some other narrative where you make sense rather than post takataka like you just made. Mavi ya kuku.

RVP, I am still very confused and conflicted about all this BBI, Ruto campaign, MtK. Is there a reason why the state would be this opposed to Ruto??? I do not like betrayal. Whatever happened btn Ruto and Uhuru...Uhuru threw Ruto under the bus. And listening to Murathe...something about him that looks like mafia. Then there is Raila history. Whatever he touches in our political space, it becomes a mess. Things started going south after the handshake.


It Raila who need 90% of GEMA having been abandoned by NASA partners - while ODM strongholds are moving to Ruto.
You guys think that Kalonzo, MaDVD are just mark timming ready to endorse Raila again and again and again.
Or that Raila support is constant.

Anyway now Uhuru is asking for political duel on GEMA - and he has chosen the wrong battle - unpopular BBI.
His Lameduckness is dealing with sly nimble Ruto.

Like Uhuru has failed the last 3yrs - now a weaken retiring tiger - is starting the battle with half GEMA leadership out  - and 80% of the people outside.

Hustler movement will bury Uhuru - because he is a lameduck entitled dynasty almost wantint to starting PEV with Kalenjin - and has shameless reduce himself to Kikuyu leader.

Anyway like I told watch Ruto win PORK like the BOSS himself.

Oh, Please! kikuyus are not going to war for Ruto.  This is January 2021, the elections are in 2022.  You do not win elections a whole year in advance.  Voters are very fickle and crowds the worst indicator this far out.  Also, Ruto needs 90% kikuyu vote, RAO only needs 15%- 20% which he already has and can only increase since the campaign for the presidency has not even began yet.  The problem with Ruto is that he over-jipanga. A sign of an anxiety driven personality. He needs to relax.