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We can conclude Mt Kenya East is Hustler Nation bedrock
« on: October 18, 2020, 08:23:20 PM »
Ruto church meetings - and subsequent street meetings - shows incredible support - he enjoys in Meru-Tharaka-Embu.

I think when it come to GEMA - Mt Kenya east and RV diaspora of Kikuyus - are solidly behind Ruto.

The battle will be in central proper. This is where Uhuru and co have invested a lot to try sway the people there.

At this point we can conclude Ruto is the next PORK because he is already past 50% without central proper.

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Re: We can conclude Mt Kenya East is Hustler Nation bedrock
« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2020, 09:37:01 PM »
I saw thousands of Kenyans assembled to watch a helicopter fly. It’s the product of high unemployment, people are idle and whether this translates into votes is still to be determined. If you argue that Uhuruto beat Raila fairly then you cannot also get excited about crowds because Raila is by far the best mobilizer Kenya has ever seen since independence.

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Re: We can conclude Mt Kenya East is Hustler Nation bedrock
« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2020, 10:05:10 PM »
I put Ruto mt. Kenya support at 85-95% have always said this since I joined this forum, I am being vindicated you can see dynasties have throwed everything at Ruto but totally failed to dislodge him the final nail in the coffin was when they sent 2 youth to their deaths in muranga,tried to twist the story so that Ruto becomes the scape goat but didn't work, Kieleweke couldn't even turn up at the burial because they would have been lynched Uhuru's cousin Muigai and Kabogo summarized mood on ground by saying fake elders went to bondo on their own, ironically the youth were from Kiambu Who were killed in Muranga.
Uhuru if he really wants to help baba has to directly confront Ruto, na hapo ndio shit will hit the fan, using proxies like murathe sabinas etc are like sending dogs to a Lion(Ruto) they will be mauled. But after seeing Gatheca result to fatalism of a Ruto presidency and begging Ruto indirectly not to destruct his Kenyatta empire then only a fool would think baba will come even close to sniffing power at state house

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Re: We can conclude Mt Kenya East is Hustler Nation bedrock
« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2020, 10:12:36 PM »
Just because Raila wasted his popularity doesn't mean Ruto will do the same. Raila always choked at the critical moments. Ruto always score at those critical moments. Tell you what - only a bullet or that chopper accident can stop Ruto now. But that could well mean Kenya going to the dogs because the country will implode.
I saw thousands of Kenyans assembled to watch a helicopter fly. It’s the product of high unemployment, people are idle and whether this translates into votes is still to be determined. If you argue that Uhuruto beat Raila fairly then you cannot also get excited about crowds because Raila is by far the best mobilizer Kenya has ever seen since independence.

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Re: We can conclude Mt Kenya East is Hustler Nation bedrock
« Reply #4 on: October 18, 2020, 10:17:22 PM »
Yes the shadow boxing is not working. Engineer Dr Kibicho should go back to UON and resume his teaching career with Dr Mataingi - together with Prof Makoha. Siasa is a different ballgame.

Uhuru has no fight left - and he is not even sure why he is fighting. If he fights Ruto - it means spending billions of his money - and a lot of his time - something he is not prepared to do. It also means staying very sober. Ruto is energizer. If you have to go counter to counter...don't expect to catch any sleep :) :) By time he left Meru - he is already planning other stuff.

Ruto did I think 300 rallies in 2017 - and then another 300 rallies - after election were annualed. Most of time dragging a drunk Uhuru alonge.Uhuru hates Ruto for trying to straighten him up - immediately he dumped Ruto - he resumed to drinking heavily and eating badly - now if he was to fight Ruto - he has to stay sober, work really hard and spend a lot of money.

He will just cut himself a deal and retire. His best bet right now is to try to run to the front of this revolution and lead it peaceful.

Otherwise Mt Kenya laity will overthrow their elite. It will become nearly impossible for Kikuyu elite to ever load on their poor. Like in RV where we have govornors and senators who are in 30s - some directly from owning only a bicyle to big jobs.

If you don't join this hustler movement - you'll be carried away with it.

I put Ruto mt. Kenya support at 85-95% have always said this since I joined this forum, I am being vindicated you can see dynasties have throwed everything at Ruto but totally failed to dislodge him the final nail in the coffin was when they sent 2 youth to their deaths in muranga,tried to twist the story so that Ruto becomes the scape goat but didn't work, Kieleweke couldn't even turn up at the burial because they would have been lynched Uhuru's cousin Muigai and Kabogo summarized mood on ground by saying fake elders went to bondo on their own, ironically the youth were from Kiambu Who were killed in Muranga.
Uhuru if he really wants to help baba has to directly confront Ruto, na hapo ndio shit will hit the fan, using proxies like murathe sabinas etc are like sending dogs to a Lion(Ruto) they will be mauled. But after seeing Gatheca result to fatalism of a Ruto presidency and begging Ruto indirectly not to destruct his Kenyatta empire then only a fool would think baba will come even close to sniffing power at state house

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Re: We can conclude Mt Kenya East is Hustler Nation bedrock
« Reply #5 on: October 18, 2020, 11:07:42 PM »
Can we also conclude Kikuyuland is Handshake bedrock? Mt Kenya will break Raila 70-30 Mobutu.
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Re: We can conclude Mt Kenya East is Hustler Nation bedrock
« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2020, 11:42:46 PM »
This based on on what exactly? Wishful thinking
I think we can conclude that diaspora Kikuyus who make roughly 1/3 of Kikuyu are not in.
Those ones are taking care of their immediate interest.

Now central proper is where Kieleweke are pulling all the stops...literally tear-gasing church meetings and murdering their own in food posioning and thuggery..in desperate bid to stop Ruto hustler movement from getting sold.

RUto has 80% hapo. Elsewhere it close to 90%.
Uhuru has 20% - Benefit of Doubt.
Raila has 2%.
The moment Uhuru or anyone he backs say Raila - that benefit of doubt - become credited to Ruto account.

Ruto remember starts with solid 30% - he can secure 25% of RV plus 5% of URP pastoralist elsewhere as his core - without touching GEMA proper, Luhya, Ukambani and coast.

If he gets 50% of Eastern - by taking mt kenya east and few kambasa - he is already close to 40%.

If he gets 5-7% from Luhya Nation - he is pretty close to 50%.

We have not gone to Nyanza, Central, Nairobi and coast :) :)

Ruto is basically UNSTOPPABLE. There is no ROUND 2 as long as current playground is what we have.

Can we also conclude Kikuyuland is Handshake bedrock? Mt Kenya will break Raila 70-30 Mobutu.

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Re: We can conclude Mt Kenya East is Hustler Nation bedrock
« Reply #7 on: October 19, 2020, 02:44:08 AM »
This based on on what exactly? Wishful thinking
I think we can conclude that diaspora Kikuyus who make roughly 1/3 of Kikuyu are not in.
Those ones are taking care of their immediate interest.

Now central proper is where Kieleweke are pulling all the stops...literally tear-gasing church meetings and murdering their own in food posioning and thuggery..in desperate bid to stop Ruto hustler movement from getting sold.

RUto has 80% hapo. Elsewhere it close to 90%.
Uhuru has 20% - Benefit of Doubt.
Raila has 2%.
The moment Uhuru or anyone he backs say Raila - that benefit of doubt - become credited to Ruto account.

Ruto remember starts with solid 30% - he can secure 25% of RV plus 5% of URP pastoralist elsewhere as his core - without touching GEMA proper, Luhya, Ukambani and coast.

If he gets 50% of Eastern - by taking mt kenya east and few kambasa - he is already close to 40%.

If he gets 5-7% from Luhya Nation - he is pretty close to 50%.

We have not gone to Nyanza, Central, Nairobi and coast :) :)

Ruto is basically UNSTOPPABLE. There is no ROUND 2 as long as current playground is what we have.

Can we also conclude Kikuyuland is Handshake bedrock? Mt Kenya will break Raila 70-30 Mobutu.

Keep dreaming..... you have been shouting hoarse in your own echo chamber!

By June next year, nay make that April, WSR will have gone completely out of air.... he is dancing himself lame! We will be laughing at him.

Let me give you some BBI nugget, WSR would in fact be the biggest beneficiary; if I were him, I would play along and harvest from it. Another tip, Nairobi will have autonomous special status, maybe with a Premier or Mayor as its top Kahuna like London, Paris, New York or Johannesburg.

Don’t you tire with these WSR sermons? Even attending Church everyday of the week won’t make him a better Christian than me. And so that you know, for your own good and the state/nation called Kenya, a class war of rich vs poor such is what WSR is trying to ignite wont be allowed to flourish. In due time it will be put to a screeching stop. No one will be able to manage/control the chaos that would erupt from it whether the so called dynasty or even WSR himself were he to take power (even though a totally far fetched idea at this moment).


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Re: We can conclude Mt Kenya East is Hustler Nation bedrock
« Reply #8 on: October 19, 2020, 02:46:45 AM »
Here comes the Oracle with precises dates on when events will happen.
This reminds me of Omollo :).
What is up with the grapevine.
Busy season.

Remember to factor counter-plans; Raila has his plans (that almost always fail) but Ruto will have his plan


Keep dreaming..... you have been shouting hoarse in your own echo chamber!

By June next year, nay make that April, WSR will have gone completely out of air.... he is dancing himself lame! We will be laughing at him.

Let me give you some BBI nugget, WSR would in fact be the biggest beneficiary; if I were him, I would play along and harvest from it. Another tip, Nairobi will have autonomous special status, maybe with a Premier or Mayor as its top Kahuna like London, Paris, New York or Johannesburg.

Don’t you tire with these WSR sermons? Even attending Church everyday of the week won’t make him a better Christian than me. And so that you know, for your own good and the state/nation called Kenya, a class war of rich vs poor such is what WSR is trying to ignite wont be allowed to flourish. In due time it will be put to a screeching stop. No one will be able to manage/control the chaos that would erupt from it whether the so called dynasty or even WSR himself were he to take power (even though a totally far fetched idea at this moment).



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Re: We can conclude Mt Kenya East is Hustler Nation bedrock
« Reply #9 on: October 19, 2020, 03:52:59 AM »
My own samples of actual kikuyu i know. It more generational than class gap. Your pie-in-sky numbers- are mere wishes - meantime Mobutu cannot dare sponsor even MCA against the unpopular Uhuru - cause it would expose the fiction. Barely months ago Tangatanga were being chased with nyahunyo from Uhuru rallies. Mobutu clung to Uhurutopia until it was laughing stock. Now they are clinging to the party after it long gone. Spin is limited by reality.

Let see hustler wave in Msambweni - where both Mobutu and Raila are proper aliens. Hopefully it will open your eyes.

This based on on what exactly? Wishful thinking
I think we can conclude that diaspora Kikuyus who make roughly 1/3 of Kikuyu are not in.
Those ones are taking care of their immediate interest.

Now central proper is where Kieleweke are pulling all the stops...literally tear-gasing church meetings and murdering their own in food posioning and thuggery..in desperate bid to stop Ruto hustler movement from getting sold.

RUto has 80% hapo. Elsewhere it close to 90%.
Uhuru has 20% - Benefit of Doubt.
Raila has 2%.
The moment Uhuru or anyone he backs say Raila - that benefit of doubt - become credited to Ruto account.

Ruto remember starts with solid 30% - he can secure 25% of RV plus 5% of URP pastoralist elsewhere as his core - without touching GEMA proper, Luhya, Ukambani and coast.

If he gets 50% of Eastern - by taking mt kenya east and few kambasa - he is already close to 40%.

If he gets 5-7% from Luhya Nation - he is pretty close to 50%.

We have not gone to Nyanza, Central, Nairobi and coast :) :)

Ruto is basically UNSTOPPABLE. There is no ROUND 2 as long as current playground is what we have.

Can we also conclude Kikuyuland is Handshake bedrock? Mt Kenya will break Raila 70-30 Mobutu.
♫♫ They say all good boys go to heaven... but bad boys bring heaven to you ~ song by Julia Michaels

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Re: We can conclude Mt Kenya East is Hustler Nation bedrock
« Reply #10 on: October 19, 2020, 04:17:38 PM »
Can we also conclude Kikuyuland is Handshake bedrock? Mt Kenya will break Raila 70-30 Mobutu.

Break it down amongst the counties