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Wanjohi bribes Kikuyu with goodies
« on: June 14, 2020, 10:59:56 AM »
Seem he has decided to go tribal in the hope he will get back their respect.

1) Mau Mau road along with Aberdares- 500km new road that starts from Kiambu and end in Nyeri - could cost 30B
2) Dualisation of Kenol - Sagana -marua road -  135km - not sure the cost.
3) 15B hospital in Kirinyanga.
4) Thiba dam and several dams in Kiambu & Muranga.
5)  Rehabilitation of Nairobi-Nanyuki MGR Railway line.

Meanwhile, there is nothing for Mt Kenya east. Merus and Embus are forgotten in this new development charm offensive.

Part of reason Wanjohi is treated with contempt he deserves in Central is SGR that he loaded on them - 5B dollars - doesn't pass anywhere in GEMA - just a little part of Kiambu and Nakuru - otherwise, it's a detour to Narok to Bomet and to Kisumu to Malaba via Maseno.

Meanwhile, I wish wanjohi can prioritize the dualization of  Rironi to Mau summit road. That would give him some good legacy.

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Re: Wanjohi bribes Kikuyu with goodies
« Reply #1 on: June 14, 2020, 12:20:21 PM »
I don't think kikuyus will be bought by these. Last kicks of a dying horse. Most development infrastructure wise was done by kibaki what is there is to repair and maintain it. Kikuyus need a market economy good prices for tea milk coffee etc. A road doesn't add any value. Especially dual carriage to nyeri changes nothing and is a waste of resources. Am always using that road and with proper maintenance its capable of another 20 years, there is no traffic to warrant that. Again if he built factories for the produce of the area it would be more welcome.
Back to Meru and Embu, there is nothing the bhang addict has done other than struggling to complete what kibaki started. Luckily Kibaki in meru had launched several projects and this is what saves us to this day. Meru got enough roads under him but they need maintaining and completing . In Meru town the flyovers and interchanges and bypasses were all under kibaki and the bhang smoker is completing them only now in the  most sluggish snail speed ever they are now 90% complete. Kibaki did well to take loans from worldbank to finance as addict would have made a u turn and left Meru but he is forced to complete them.
Embu i wouldn't know whats happening but it appears case is worse, unfortunately they don't have a strong voice for completion of projects. Muturi would have been the main man but he is just like addict.
Uhuru should peacefully go home i will repeat myself any attempt to extend his rule will end up in the kenyattas vaporization.

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Re: Wanjohi bribes Kikuyu with goodies
« Reply #2 on: June 14, 2020, 12:35:10 PM »
GEMA are firmly in Uhuru grasp... take your meds. Meru will be given few billions for miraa if they complain.. led by Munya and Kiraitu. Anyway sounds like you are finally in mourning phase of Ruto loss.
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Re: Wanjohi bribes Kikuyu with goodies
« Reply #3 on: June 14, 2020, 12:38:42 PM »
I think he is panicked. There is nothing a politician values than home ground support. It must be difficult read for him to get NIS reports about how he is hated.

Development is good - I think dualization to Nyeri - will see Nairobi expanding into Muranga - past Kenol. The Mau Mau road is not a priority - apart from sentimental value - I think such roads nobody will be using it.

Yes Embu nothing is going on there - seem all the development ended with Seven Folks dams long time ago. Meru too I don't there is new exciting project there...not any of the mega-dams.

Anyway, we have to be careful with Isiolo airport kind of situation - a huge airport that is rotting away. Lamu port is also ready but no ship will dock there soon.

So Wanjohi should really focus on where it's needed - continue to build cheap low seal rural roads - and then dualize the Mombasa to Malaba road - which is Kenya's main economic artery.

As for factories and jobs - I honestly don't know what gov needs to do here? What is stopping manufacturers? Maybe HK's lamentation of taxes?

Maybe gov need to go Nigeria way and ban the import of basic commodities from China and etc. And force people to manufacture them locally.
I don't think kikuyus will be bought by these. Last kicks of a dying horse. Most development infrastructure wise was done by kibaki what is there is to repair and maintain it. Kikuyus need a market economy good prices for tea milk coffee etc. A road doesn't add any value. Especially dual carriage to nyeri changes nothing and is a waste of resources. Am always using that road and with proper maintenance its capable of another 20 years, there is no traffic to warrant that. Again if he built factories for the produce of the area it would be more welcome.
Back to Meru and Embu, there is nothing the bhang addict has done other than struggling to complete what kibaki started. Luckily Kibaki in meru had launched several projects and this is what saves us to this day. Meru got enough roads under him but they need maintaining and completing . In Meru town the flyovers and interchanges and bypasses were all under kibaki and the bhang smoker is completing them only now in the  most sluggish snail speed ever they are now 90% complete. Kibaki did well to take loans from worldbank to finance as addict would have made a u turn and left Meru but he is forced to complete them.
Embu i wouldn't know whats happening but it appears case is worse, unfortunately they don't have a strong voice for completion of projects. Muturi would have been the main man but he is just like addict.
Uhuru should peacefully go home i will repeat myself any attempt to extend his rule will end up in the kenyattas vaporization.

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Re: Wanjohi bribes Kikuyu with goodies
« Reply #4 on: June 14, 2020, 12:40:19 PM »
Seem he has decided to go tribal in the hope he will get back their respect.

1) Mau Mau road along with Aberdares- 500km new road that starts from Kiambu and end in Nyeri - could cost 30B
2) Dualisation of Kenol - Sagana -marua road -  135km - not sure the cost.
3) 15B hospital in Kirinyanga.
4) Thiba dam and several dams in Kiambu & Muranga.
5)  Rehabilitation of Nairobi-Nanyuki MGR Railway line.

Meanwhile, there is nothing for Mt Kenya east. Merus and Embus are forgotten in this new development charm offensive.

Part of reason Wanjohi is treated with contempt he deserves in Central is SGR that he loaded on them - 5B dollars - doesn't pass anywhere in GEMA - just a little part of Kiambu and Nakuru - otherwise, it's a detour to Narok to Bomet and to Kisumu to Malaba via Maseno.

Meanwhile, I wish wanjohi can prioritize the dualization of  Rironi to Mau summit road. That would give him some good legacy.

RV pundit of late its seems you are on a mission to drive a wedge between The Mt Kenyans  due to Uhurus stance on Handshake and BBI . Fortunately as long as Raila is a factor in Kenyan politics you wont succeed . The Mt Kenya east you claim abhor Raila more than the other Mt Kenyans due to the kind of politics he played during Kibakis era . They feel he targeted them and the main reason unlike Mois time they vote massively against Raila . You can take this to the bank - MtKenya will give more votes in 2022 in  comparison with Rift Valley

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Re: Wanjohi bribes Kikuyu with goodies
« Reply #5 on: June 14, 2020, 12:40:27 PM »
ODmoron, you woke up in bad mood. So we cannot raise topical issues because Uhuru has GEMA.
GEMA are firmly in Uhuru grasp... take your meds. Meru will be given few billions for miraa if they complain.. led by Munya and Kiraitu. Anyway sounds like you are finally in mourning phase of Ruto loss.

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Re: Wanjohi bribes Kikuyu with goodies
« Reply #6 on: June 14, 2020, 12:43:45 PM »
I am a political analyst; I don't go on a political mission. This site has a readership of 100 people :) at best. We are more political analysts - but social media influencers are those busy in facebook.

I am just responding to a newspaper article I was reading yesterday about Uhuru preparing to go to Mt Kenya to launch the project after COVID-19.

As for Raila and GEMA. I don't see it happening. I have given many reasons for this. I don't think GEMA elite can trust Raila. Only Robina and fellow Luos are delusional to see that.

RV pundit of late its seems you are on a mission to drive a wedge between The Mt Kenyans  due to Uhurus stance on Handshake and BBI . Fortunately as long as Raila is a factor in Kenyan politics you wont succeed . The Mt Kenya east you claim abhor Raila more than the other Mt Kenyans due to the kind of politics he played during Kibakis era . They feel he targeted them and the main reason unlike Mois time they vote massively against Raila . You can take this to the bank - MtKenya will give more votes in 2022 in  comparison with Rift Valley

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Re: Wanjohi bribes Kikuyu with goodies
« Reply #7 on: June 14, 2020, 12:45:59 PM »
Your premise of panic is wrong. He has always had GEMA - the bribes are to buy a fresh bite at the apple. These and the JP and Parliament chokehold are clear signs Uhuru is going nowhere.

Your stories are surrender speech... the tempo and genre.

ODmoron, you woke up in bad mood. So we cannot raise topical issues because Uhuru has GEMA.
GEMA are firmly in Uhuru grasp... take your meds. Meru will be given few billions for miraa if they complain.. led by Munya and Kiraitu. Anyway sounds like you are finally in mourning phase of Ruto loss.
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Re: Wanjohi bribes Kikuyu with goodies
« Reply #8 on: June 14, 2020, 12:49:56 PM »
Okay, autistic kid, you don't have to repeat all that every day. what is your take on the proposed development in GEMA. Here is Uhuru proposing to spend more than 100B dollars in small region.

Meanwhile, Siaya has 10 Isolation wards.

When is Luo Nyanza getting such development? I think there are some in Muhoroni border with Kericho that may excite me - I see proposed 25B dam - and there Special Economc Zone. And Kisumu port - that Uhuru seems passionate about?

I wish Wanjohi could give us back Itare and esp the Bosto dams. Those two would sort our issues in South Rift - and we would be very happy with Jubilee.

We are happy overally - because Wanjohi has give us nearly 1,000Kms of new low seal tarmac in Kipisgisland.

Your premise of panic is wrong. He has always had GEMA - the bribes are to buy a fresh bite at the apple. These and the JP and Parliament chokehold are clear signs Uhuru is going nowhere.

Your stories are surrender speech... the tempo and genre.

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Re: Wanjohi bribes Kikuyu with goodies
« Reply #9 on: June 14, 2020, 12:51:24 PM »
We don't think GEMA will back Raila - they will back Uhuru through Raila. If Uhuru goes Exec PM or fronts a stooge say PK - GEMA will vote Raila-stooge ticket.

Kamba vote Kalonzo through Raila... RV vote Ruto through Uhuru. What confuses you?

Of course YOU are delusional - that GEMA will vote Ruto direct without Uhuru :o :o

I am a political analyst; I don't go on a political mission. This site has a readership of 100 people :) at best. We are more political analysts - but social media influencers are those busy in facebook.

I am just responding to a newspaper article I was reading yesterday about Uhuru preparing to go to Mt Kenya to launch the project after COVID-19.

As for Raila and GEMA. I don't see it happening. I have given many reasons for this. I don't think GEMA elite can trust Raila. Only Robina and fellow Luos are delusional to see that.
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« Reply #10 on: June 14, 2020, 12:54:18 PM »
Okay, let us repeat ourselves so you can go to bed. We will see how your theory will pan out soon with the unveiling of BBI 2.0 and if the constitution will be changed. Until that - put that story to bed. Uhuru is retiring in 2022. That is the reality of now.

We can engage in 2010-2012 kind of nonsense where UhuRuto were expected to locked in ICC and denied to run for pORK. Such kind of speculation is nonsense.

Let us deal with what is there. NOW.

My theory - Ruto will take GEMA by offering them DPORK. Kiunjuri still the man.

We don't think GEMA will back Raila - they will back Uhuru through Raila. If Uhuru goes Exec PM or fronts a stooge say PK - GEMA will vote Raila-stooge ticket.

Kamba vote Kalonzo through Raila... RV vote Ruto through Uhuru. What confuses you?

Of course YOU are delusional - that GEMA will vote Ruto direct without Uhuru :o :o

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« Reply #11 on: June 14, 2020, 12:55:32 PM »
Raila has no option but to lie low and play along now. Until he nicks some power - as executive or ceremonial PORK. Mt Kenya brats will be mollycoddled big-time in Jubilee 2.0... they are the kingmakers. Raila lying low is the best play right now so don't expect any nyef from ODM. That Ruto and Mdvd job.


Okay, autistic kid, you don't have to repeat all that every day. what is your take on the proposed development in GEMA. Here is Uhuru proposing to spend more than 100B dollars in small region.

Meanwhile, Siaya has 10 Isolation wards.

When is Luo Nyanza getting such development? I think there are some in Muhoroni border with Kericho that may excite me - I see proposed 25B dam - and there Special Economc Zone. And Kisumu port - that Uhuru seems passionate about?

I wish Wanjohi could give us back Itare and esp the Bosto dams. Those two would sort our issues in South Rift - and we would be very happy with Jubilee.

We are happy overally - because Wanjohi has give us nearly 1,000Kms of new low seal tarmac in Kipisgisland.
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Re: Wanjohi bribes Kikuyu with goodies
« Reply #12 on: June 14, 2020, 12:57:52 PM »
That we are agreed. GEMA are the kingmakers. They could throw a curveball - but I expect them to choose btw the hated Raila and the beloved Ruto.  We will see - Raila is offering Wanjohi a Duale like post (BBI 1.0) :)(:. Ruto is offering GEMA 50-50 with DPORK.
Raila has no option but to lie low and play along now. Until he nicks some power - as executive or ceremonial PORK. Mt Kenya brats will be mollycoddled big-time in Jubilee 2.0... they are the kingmakers. Raila lying low is the best play right now so don't expect any nyef from ODM. That Ruto and Mdvd job.

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« Reply #13 on: June 14, 2020, 01:00:40 PM »
Okay, let us repeat ourselves so you can go to bed. We will see how your theory will pan out soon with the unveiling of BBI 2.0 and if constitution will be changed. My theory - Ruto will take GEMA by offering them DPORK. Kiunjuri still the man.
We don't think GEMA will back Raila - they will back Uhuru through Raila. If Uhuru goes Exec PM or fronts a stooge say PK - GEMA will vote Raila-stooge ticket.

Kamba vote Kalonzo through Raila... RV vote Ruto through Uhuru. What confuses you?

Of course YOU are delusional - that GEMA will vote Ruto direct without Uhuru :o :o

Add to the fact that with introduction of Prime Minister post be it powerful or not . It will albeit enhance Rutos numbers say if he picks a candidate from Western or Lower Eastern for the post . You can already see re-alignments going on with Ford K , ANC and Rutos Jubilee agreeing to come up with a joint committee , dont be suprised next being Kalonzo  . Just like in 2013 when all Pentagon Members ( Ruto , Mudavadi, Balala , Ngilu and  Nyagah) abandoning Raila History is repeating itself with NASA stakeholders   doing the same

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Re: Wanjohi bribes Kikuyu with goodies
« Reply #14 on: June 14, 2020, 01:06:56 PM »
Raila plan A-Z is BBI - to convince Uhuru to go for a useless PM position. Uhuru could (let not make Robina angrier) be playing along so he can enjoy unparalleled power - and then retire when his term-end.  Robina has never told us, Raila plan B would be in that case.

Now Ruto has played this smartly.  He could make up with Uhuru one afternoon and everything goes back to default

However, Ruto is playing Plan B. He started going directly to GEMA a long time ago - pre-2017 - and insisted on Jubilee party - and he has strong ground game there.  I would have expected GEMA to be hesitant - and Ruto needing Uhuru to do the heavy lifting - but the opposite is now true. Ruto now needs Uhuru to say NO word.

Plan B was always going to be Luhya - and that is what Ruto is working on now. Luhya plus Ruto 25% - could take Ruto to 35-40% - and in a contest where GEMA have their candidates (NOT RAILA :) - that is the impossible scenario) that could get your the No 1 or 2 - but still shy from 50%

Plan B will see three candidates Ruto, Raila, and GEMA candidate all trying to get 35% - and the re-run election.

Why is Ruto backing maDVD now. He is basically taking pressure off himself. He will want maDVD to be the decoy as he goes underground. As a clear frontrunner, he has been attracting all manner of opposition long before 2022, esp from ODM and Wiper.

Add to the fact that with introduction of Prime Minister post be it powerful or not . It will albeit enhance Rutos numbers say if he picks a candidate from Western or Lower Eastern for the post . You can already see re-alignments going on with Ford K , ANC and Rutos Jubilee agreeing to come up with a joint committee , dont be suprised next being Kalonzo  . Just like in 2013 when all Pentagon Members ( Ruto , Mudavadi, Balala , Ngilu and  Nyagah) abandoning Raila History is repeating itself with NASA stakeholders   doing the same

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« Reply #15 on: June 14, 2020, 01:44:25 PM »
Punda vs Robina, always interesting. I have no doubt if punda was to physically lay his hands on Robina, he would have an orgasm before mounting an expedition up her *** you guys can make a superb couple.
Back to serious stuff, this misconception that all merus depend on miraa is nonsensical actually a stereotype. Merus just like related kabilas depend on farming  majority tea coffee milk maize beans and businesses to survive. Percentage on miraa is not more than 20% maximum its only they are very vocal. Munya succeeded in misleading addict to launch a milk processing factory in a miraa growing area where average milk cow is kongoni. With this kind of advice you can bet Munya will lead addict to rock bottom. Uhuru is not like his father or kibaki they both spoke fluent kimeru and understood Meru properly, so expect more wrong decisions from addict as he doesn't care about the region.

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« Reply #16 on: June 14, 2020, 02:58:12 PM »
Punda vs Robina, always interesting. I have no doubt if punda was to physically lay his hands on Robina, he would have an orgasm before mounting an expedition up her *** you guys can make a superb couple.
Back to serious stuff, this misconception that all merus depend on miraa is nonsensical actually a stereotype. Merus just like related kabilas depend on farming  majority tea coffee milk maize beans and businesses to survive. Percentage on miraa is not more than 20% maximum its only they are very vocal. Munya succeeded in misleading addict to launch a milk processing factory in a miraa growing area where average milk cow is kongoni. With this kind of advice you can bet Munya will lead addict to rock bottom. Uhuru is not like his father or kibaki they both spoke fluent kimeru and understood Meru properly, so expect more wrong decisions from addict as he doesn't care about the region.

So Njuri just a question percentage wise what do you think would be 2022 Presidential election outcome  between Ruto and Raila in Meru and Tharaka Nithi County ?

In Meru 2017 elections Uhuru got 88 % of Votes Cast and Raila got 10 % of votes cast
In Meru 2013 elections Uhuru got 90 % of Votes Cast and Raila got 7% of votes cast

In Tharaka Nithi 2017 elections Uhuru got 92% of Votes Cast and Raila got 5% of votes cast
In Tharaka Nithi 2013 elections Uhuru got 93% of Votes Cast and Raila got 5% of votes cast

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Re: Wanjohi bribes Kikuyu with goodies
« Reply #17 on: June 14, 2020, 03:49:30 PM »
It depends on one some factors. I.e if Uhuru was to endorse Raira directly, in that case Raira would get 20% max, without an endorsement it would be usual 9%.
Another factor is if constitution was to change and PM created with Uhuru running as PM, that also would relegate Raira votes to single digit unless a meru got deputy PM or DP.
Its very tight for Uhuru because he has soo much baggage that he wants to please.
Ruto without Uhurus backing would get abt 80% and 95% with his backing in both counties. It also to be seen where Munya will want to go. If wanjohi uses him to destabilize the ground it could be a challenge for Ruto but still he would get Majority but would lose some more percentage points max 5.
factoring constitution change and who he has picked for DP and other positions that could also change we have to wait to see.

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« Reply #18 on: June 14, 2020, 09:05:19 PM »
Njuri that's lots of wishes in a short essay. Like a love letter to Pundit. If Ipsos or Infotrak or a by-election won by hustler movement- I would believe it. For now a Kalenjin alien has nothing to offer unless Meru bigwigs back him.

Pundit about Raila plan B of Uhuru retires. Uhuru is with Raila NOW as you emphasize. So Uhuru retires and we have

Raila+Uhuru stooge say PK vs Ruto+Kiunjuri. Raila wins GEMA because Uhuru has big grasp. Ruto has switched to plan B - Luhya runningmate - because plan A has collapsed.

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« Reply #19 on: June 14, 2020, 09:10:01 PM »
Pundit if we stick with NOW - status quo of presidential- as Ruto switches to plan B

Raila+Uhuru stooge vs Ruto-Mdvd  8)
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