Author Topic: Ssshh.. Mudavadi (President), William Ruto (Executive PM) formation cooking....  (Read 6947 times)

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MaDVD meats Karua and PK. I think for WRS - he'd like to pump up Mudavadi to take off the pressure from himself. Ruto is being sacrificed because all the candidates have ganged up against him. So it best for now to pump maDVD and then later dropped him dead when Uhuru become lame-duck.

As for maDVD - he needs to win Wetangula - before he is taken seriously - because Oparanya and Atwoli are going to play ODM side.

Ultimately no luhya candidate is going anywhere because of disunity.

https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2020-05-29-mudavadi-meets-peter-kenneth-karua-sally-kosgey-amid-speculation-over-realignments/

Mdvd could take off with the ball... and refuse to hand it back. Like he did to Raila 2013. He is a rent-seeker who cash in as spoiler.

Mdvd, Oparanyas, PKs - the pawns will  be all over both camps or 3rd party alliance. The horses remain Ruto and Raila with Uhuru as kingmaker.
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Seem sarakasi already start.. parallel unity meeting endorses Oparanya and Atwoli.


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With this gang of Lusaka, Atwoli, Eugene, all governors, bulk of senators, MPs... Mdvd and Rectangular are all hat and no cattle. Most ANC and Ford K crew are Handshake: Eseli Simiyu just became Dep Minority Whip. Malala, Osotsi, Khaniri, Otichillo, Wangamati, Khaemba are all pro- Raila.


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From Facebook.

Actually MPs from Western including Trans Nzoia are 43. In Trans Nzoia we have 4 Luhya MPs the other two are Kalenjins, only F. Wanyonyi and Caleb Amisi attended. In Bungoma we have 10Mps with one from Mt Elgon being a Sabaot, only Eseli Simiyu and Wafula Wamunyinyi attended Atwoli meeting. In Vihiga we have 6 MPs, non attended the meeting. In Kakamega we have 13 MPs only three attended - Elsie Muhanda, Justus Kizito and Emmanuel Wangwe. In Busia we have 8 MPs I saw there None. In total only 7/43 MPs attended. Only Governors Oparanya, Ojamoong and Wangamati all facing corruption allegations attended. We have 6 elected Senators only Malala(a Luo) attended. The others are nominated and the one present Lokorio Petronila Were represents Nairobi. Someone want's to con Uhuru Kenyatta that he has the support of all Luhya leaders

With this gang of Lusaka, Atwoli, Eugene, all governors, bulk of senators, MPs... Mdvd and Rectangular are all hat and no cattle. Most ANC and Ford K crew are Handshake: Eseli Simiyu just became Dep Minority Whip. Malala, Osotsi, Khaniri, Otichillo, Wangamati, Khaemba are all pro- Raila.




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Again the Facebook rumors :) - are you that downtrodden? Table your own numbers Mister! Pawns are what Ruto has - I won't even argue with that. Trans Nzoia of course is RV - we consider it "Western" for Luhya purposes. For that similarly we consider Nakuru as Mt Kenya. We are not forensic.

But who are the Luhya influencers?

Big kahuna - Mdvd and Rectangular. They are rumored to be warming up to Ruto. Are they?

Bukusu:
Rectangular has 1 senator (himself), 2 governors (Wangamati Bungoma, Khaemba Trans Nzioia). Ford-K sec gen Dr Eseli Simiyu. All were there. More importantly they support Handshake. Trans Nzoia senator Maling'a Mbito is JP and Handshaken. Speaker Ken Lusaka is JP or former Eugene party New Ford K - he was there and definitely Handshake. CS Eugene - haha - before you consider Atwoli baba yao. Ruto has no Bukusu influencer unless he strike a deal with Rectangular who comes empty- handed more or less. Mt Elgon Kapondi of course is paperweight but back Ruto with his 1% Sabaot.

Maragoli: Mdvd has 2 senators (Khaniri Vihiga, Malala Kakamega), 1 governor (Otichillo Vihiga) - all are Handshake. Even ANC nominated Osotsi back Raila.

Before Oparanya, Ojaamong, Wako and the shebang. Anyone of any note back Raila. Ruto of course has lineup of inconsequential Echesas and Khalwales.

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Again the Facebook rumors :) - are you that downtrodden? Table your own numbers Mister! Pawns are what Ruto has - I won't even argue with that. Trans Nzoia of course is RV - we consider it "Western" for Luhya purposes. For that similarly we consider Nakuru as Mt Kenya. We are not forensic.

But who are the Luhya influencers?

Big kahuna - Mdvd and Rectangular. They are rumored to be warming up to Ruto. Are they?

Bukusu:
Rectangular has 1 senator (himself), 2 governors (Wangamati Bungoma, Khaemba Trans Nzioia). Ford-K sec gen Dr Eseli Simiyu. All were there. More importantly they support Handshake. Trans Nzoia senator Maling'a Mbito is JP and Handshaken. Speaker Ken Lusaka is JP or former Eugene party New Ford K - he was there and definitely Handshake. CS Eugene - haha - before you consider Atwoli baba yao. Ruto has no Bukusu influencer unless he strike a deal with Rectangular who comes empty- handed more or less. Mt Elgon Kapondi of course is paperweight but back Ruto with his 1% Sabaot.

Maragoli: Mdvd has 2 senators (Khaniri Vihiga, Malala Kakamega), 1 governor (Otichillo Vihiga) - all are Handshake. Even ANC nominated Osotsi back Raila.

Before Oparanya, Ojaamong, Wako and the shebang. Anyone of any note back Raila. Ruto of course has lineup of inconsequential Echesas and Khalwales.


No wonder you normally score poorly in MoAS despite all my help.Now you're using senators and governors to decide where the people will go

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Anyway it's still too early to do moass but it's almost given madvd has no competition for maragoli..khaniri with his tiny tirikis is done.Bukusu are spli..I suspect they will split into 2-3 camps.The next is look at Wangas bla de bla.Its still too early..most governors are scared of dci and are just like DCS

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..... and Wetangula (Governor Bungoma OR one of Deputy PMs); and that is the current formation that Ruto is now toying with.

He now sees that fighting BBI-2 and the referendum may be a lost cause. In fact, he sees BBI-2 as the best route for him to get back at Uhuru and Raila! To make sure that they are a potent force and have momentum, their thinking is for Ruto not to go for President but rather TOSHA Lazy Mudavadi and he goes for Executive PM (where he will be in charge of running government and continuing with the thievery of Jubilee 1.0).  Wetangula will join that constellation to lock the Luhya vote (a 'la Wamalwa Kijana) extending from Kakamega going all the way to Bungoma & Trans Nzoia (in which the Bukusu form 50% of the entire Luhya vote). The idea is to lock/barrel the Luhya vote under this formation on the premise that they will see themselves as being in power!

Point of NOTE even if we get to a change of the constitution, Uhuru will not be in the next government. He will neither be Exec. Prime Minister now any member of the new government. The insinuation that he wishes to extend his rule is simply conjecture because he is involved in crafting the current configuration set to re-set the way we are governed. Uhuru has no interest whatsoever of staying a day longer than when his second term is over!

Bill Ruto will finance the alliance that will be formed/fronted with Mudavadi.... several names floated (Democratic Alliance / People's Alliance). This is a no brainer for him, he has a war chest already stashed up for 20222 and after all he will get back his money within 1st few months in office as Exec. PM from deals...., deals...., deals.... and open stealing as is his practice!

Quite honestly, I see it a a potent force that can get significant numbers and traction; indeed it could well be a winning outfit. It is to be feared and must not be allowed to come to light!

Meantime we wait to see who Raila lines up with from the fall-out of Jubilee given that Uhuru won't be in play as seeking any office.

Also watch out for a formation fronted by Mukhisa Kituyi, teaming up with Martha Karua and other like minded.... this may eventually fold into backing one of the 2 main horses (read ODM/Jubilee Kieleweke) like Charity Ngilu (NAK), Wamalwa Kijana (Ford K) and Kibaki (DP) formation that formed Narc with Raila LDP Tosha. History repeating itself....

For now we wait for the Mudavadi, Ruto formation (now no longer a secret) as soon as the Jubilee fallout is complete and from here see how the chessboard will be played next. Problem is that coward Mudavadi may deny this and chicken out on Ruto now that the cat is out of the bag.
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You heard it here first!

And this is now what is eventually unfolding... Mudavadi as we know chickened out on the early courting by Ruto and is now floating in the deep blue sea, they may still come together as Mukhisa upsets Ruto's best set plans.

Mukhisa will eventually create a force/coalition that will join with the ODM/Jubilee Kieleweke plank and you will have Raila presidency with Mukhisa deputy president or prime minister.

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Raila will never be Kenyas President - How many times have you said that he will become the President and end up losing , 97,2007,2013 & 2017 . 2022 will be the same thing .

..... and Wetangula (Governor Bungoma OR one of Deputy PMs); and that is the current formation that Ruto is now toying with.

He now sees that fighting BBI-2 and the referendum may be a lost cause. In fact, he sees BBI-2 as the best route for him to get back at Uhuru and Raila! To make sure that they are a potent force and have momentum, their thinking is for Ruto not to go for President but rather TOSHA Lazy Mudavadi and he goes for Executive PM (where he will be in charge of running government and continuing with the thievery of Jubilee 1.0).  Wetangula will join that constellation to lock the Luhya vote (a 'la Wamalwa Kijana) extending from Kakamega going all the way to Bungoma & Trans Nzoia (in which the Bukusu form 50% of the entire Luhya vote). The idea is to lock/barrel the Luhya vote under this formation on the premise that they will see themselves as being in power!

Point of NOTE even if we get to a change of the constitution, Uhuru will not be in the next government. He will neither be Exec. Prime Minister now any member of the new government. The insinuation that he wishes to extend his rule is simply conjecture because he is involved in crafting the current configuration set to re-set the way we are governed. Uhuru has no interest whatsoever of staying a day longer than when his second term is over!

Bill Ruto will finance the alliance that will be formed/fronted with Mudavadi.... several names floated (Democratic Alliance / People's Alliance). This is a no brainer for him, he has a war chest already stashed up for 20222 and after all he will get back his money within 1st few months in office as Exec. PM from deals...., deals...., deals.... and open stealing as is his practice!

Quite honestly, I see it a a potent force that can get significant numbers and traction; indeed it could well be a winning outfit. It is to be feared and must not be allowed to come to light!

Meantime we wait to see who Raila lines up with from the fall-out of Jubilee given that Uhuru won't be in play as seeking any office.

Also watch out for a formation fronted by Mukhisa Kituyi, teaming up with Martha Karua and other like minded.... this may eventually fold into backing one of the 2 main horses (read ODM/Jubilee Kieleweke) like Charity Ngilu (NAK), Wamalwa Kijana (Ford K) and Kibaki (DP) formation that formed Narc with Raila LDP Tosha. History repeating itself....

For now we wait for the Mudavadi, Ruto formation (now no longer a secret) as soon as the Jubilee fallout is complete and from here see how the chessboard will be played next. Problem is that coward Mudavadi may deny this and chicken out on Ruto now that the cat is out of the bag.
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You heard it here first!

And this is now what is eventually unfolding... Mudavadi as we know chickened out on the early courting by Ruto and is now floating in the deep blue sea, they may still come together as Mukhisa upsets Ruto's best set plans.

Mukhisa will eventually create a force/coalition that will join with the ODM/Jubilee Kieleweke plank and you will have Raila presidency with Mukhisa deputy president or prime minister.