Author Topic: Ssshh.. Mudavadi (President), William Ruto (Executive PM) formation cooking....  (Read 6945 times)

Offline Pragmatic

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..... and Wetangula (Governor Bungoma OR one of Deputy PMs); and that is the current formation that Ruto is now toying with.

He now sees that fighting BBI-2 and the referendum may be a lost cause. In fact, he sees BBI-2 as the best route for him to get back at Uhuru and Raila! To make sure that they are a potent force and have momentum, their thinking is for Ruto not to go for President but rather TOSHA Lazy Mudavadi and he goes for Executive PM (where he will be in charge of running government and continuing with the thievery of Jubilee 1.0).  Wetangula will join that constellation to lock the Luhya vote (a 'la Wamalwa Kijana) extending from Kakamega going all the way to Bungoma & Trans Nzoia (in which the Bukusu form 50% of the entire Luhya vote). The idea is to lock/barrel the Luhya vote under this formation on the premise that they will see themselves as being in power!

Point of NOTE even if we get to a change of the constitution, Uhuru will not be in the next government. He will neither be Exec. Prime Minister now any member of the new government. The insinuation that he wishes to extend his rule is simply conjecture because he is involved in crafting the current configuration set to re-set the way we are governed. Uhuru has no interest whatsoever of staying a day longer than when his second term is over!

Bill Ruto will finance the alliance that will be formed/fronted with Mudavadi.... several names floated (Democratic Alliance / People's Alliance). This is a no brainer for him, he has a war chest already stashed up for 20222 and after all he will get back his money within 1st few months in office as Exec. PM from deals...., deals...., deals.... and open stealing as is his practice!

Quite honestly, I see it a a potent force that can get significant numbers and traction; indeed it could well be a winning outfit. It is to be feared and must not be allowed to come to light!

Meantime we wait to see who Raila lines up with from the fall-out of Jubilee given that Uhuru won't be in play as seeking any office.

Also watch out for a formation fronted by Mukhisa Kituyi, teaming up with Martha Karua and other like minded.... this may eventually fold into backing one of the 2 main horses (read ODM/Jubilee Kieleweke) like Charity Ngilu (NAK), Wamalwa Kijana (Ford K) and Kibaki (DP) formation that formed Narc with Raila LDP Tosha. History repeating itself....

For now we wait for the Mudavadi, Ruto formation (now no longer a secret) as soon as the Jubilee fallout is complete and from here see how the chessboard will be played next. Problem is that coward Mudavadi may deny this and chicken out on Ruto now that the cat is out of the bag.

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Pundit give the GUY MOAS numbers. Even before the server votes this is a non starter

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No need for MOAS!

Well I forgot to mention that Ruto believes that he has the Gema grassroots...as Pundit and Garliv have been preaching here. Wouldn't it be game shot if this were so?? The Luhyas just become topping up, to be sure he has run away victory.... right?

Pundit give the GUY MOAS numbers. Even before the server votes this is a non starter


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PORK/.DPORK and PM/PORK -  same arrangement - no one single person or party can get 50% plus 1. The days of winning like Moi with 35% or Kibaki with 44% is over.

Now I agree with one thing - Ruto has to share 50-50 - with GEMA (plan A) - and Plan B (with anyone else).

Ruto alone can easily get 25-30% like Raila or Uhuru.

Now he needs to get someone with 20%.

Can MaDVD bring that 20% - NOPE. He only had 4% in 2013. If he wins tries very much - he can get 10% - hard to get all Luhyas (15%)

But considering Ruto is getting lynched for being a front runner - now is good time to prop Mudavadi or Kalonzo or anyone else but Raila.  Raila is hated by GEMA and that still Ruto plan A.

When it get to 2021- Ruto best shot is to get GEMA candidate - GEMA is split into 3 - Central proper (can be further split into 2 - Kiambu v Nyeri) - Mt kenya est - and Diaspora.

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You mean Gema will skip their person to 'give' Ruto when there is nothing for them....maajabu kabisa
Ruto victim of bad advice and strategy...
No need for MOAS!

Well I forgot to mention that Ruto believes that he has the Gema grassroots...as Pundit and Garliv have been preaching here. Wouldn't it be game shot if this were so?? The Luhyas just become topping up, to be sure he has run away victory.... right?

Pundit give the GUY MOAS numbers. Even before the server votes this is a non starter



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Ruto cant count of luhyas kisii and kambas. They are sell outs. He needs consolidate kalenjin and GEMA. Get north eastern and parts of coast

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Hahaha patel... glad you can smoke out the comics at play here. Ruto has his authentic URP now - 15%. He is the one who needs a deal as VP or ceremonial PORK. The funniest story is that he has fanatical ground support in Mt Kenya.

You mean Gema will skip their person to 'give' Ruto when there is nothing for them....maajabu kabisa
Ruto victim of bad advice and strategy...
No need for MOAS!

Well I forgot to mention that Ruto believes that he has the Gema grassroots...as Pundit and Garliv have been preaching here. Wouldn't it be game shot if this were so?? The Luhyas just become topping up, to be sure he has run away victory.... right?

Pundit give the GUY MOAS numbers. Even before the server votes this is a non starter


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Both Weta and MDVD are BBI.  They have been around long enough to know who is not the system candidate.  If they line up behind the hustler, it will be to pick his pockets and nothing more :D .
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Stale news. Ruto has no choice but to bet on a Kikuyu and not even Meru DP. If he fails to have a Kikuyu runningmate he will be dropped by those now shouting themselves hoarse for him like a hot potato. Kikuyus are banking on 10 years Ruto and another 10 years one of their own. Anything else is just hogwash. Ati rebellion against 60 years of Uthamaki is just nonsense. In the 24 years of Moi regime and in the first term of Kibaki, Kenyatta family never played any role in Kenya.

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But if we have BBI 1.0 - lame PM - it possible to expand such an alliance to include Mudavadi. I think Weta for all-purpose is intent on running for Bungoma governor. If Ruto was to secure  MaDVD and Wetangula then he will get lion share of Western - maybe 80% - leaving Raila with 20%. But maDVD has to understand he will be the PM. DPORK will belong to Kikuyus like you say - and maybe Merus are plan B...so something Ruto for PORK, Kiunjuri for Dpork and maDVD for Prime Minister against Raila for PORK and his arrangement. I think Kalonzo and Gideon Moi will try their own arrangement with GEMA like Wa-Iria.

Raila for me is banking on the unbankable (GEMA elite and Uhuru will not trust him).

Stale news. Ruto has no choice but to bet on a Kikuyu and not even Meru DP. If he fails to have a Kikuyu runningmate he will be dropped by those now shouting themselves hoarse for him like a hot potato. Kikuyus are banking on 10 years Ruto and another 10 years one of their own. Anything else is just hogwash. Ati rebellion against 60 years of Uthamaki is just nonsense. In the 24 years of Moi regime and in the first term of Kibaki, Kenyatta family never played any role in Kenya.

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Madvd and Kalonzo are hyenas - salivating for the swinging Raila or Ruto hand to drop. Mdvd imagines he can get endorsement by Handshake crew or Ruto camp as "safe pair of hands" - same as Kalonzo katikati delusion. Both will be offered PM as Raila, Ruto square for PORK with Kikuyu running-mates. Uhuru is the clear kingmaker. I don't see BBI 1 or 2 materializing except in usual MOU's.
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Don't rule out GEMA elite deciding they don't have to choose btw Raila and Ruto. GEMA elite has many problems with Raila - long before they even embark on trying to sell the unsellable. What might happen is some GEMA elite will try to get safe pair of hands in either Kalonzo or Gideon or even their own - working with Matiangis etc - 3rd horse option - like they attempted with maDVD.

What is obvious is GEMA elite backing Uhuru are selling a lie to Raila, Kalonzo, and Gideon - each is expecting to be backed in 2022. They cannot re-sell the same lie to maDVD so soon.The GEMA people are still in Jubilee with Ruto. Uhuru has to decide to retire - and stay above the fray - and or get dirty.

Madvd and Kalonzo are hyenas - salivating for the swinging Raila or Ruto hand to drop. Mdvd imagines he can get endorsement by Handshake crew or Ruto camp as "safe pair of hands" - same as Kalonzo katikati delusion. Both will be offered PM as Raila, Ruto square for PORK with Kikuyu running-mates. Uhuru is the clear kingmaker. I don't see BBI 1 or 2 materializing except in usual MOU's.

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This highlighted is Pundit parallel reality. Let give the "ground" time like we gave Ruto numbers.

Raila and Uhuru know BBI with lockdown is now a mirage - they just stringing the gullible freeloaders Kalonzo and Mdvd. BBI message is unpalatable with COVID misery - it too easy to malign "inclusion" card as big burden. So the new "dynamic duo" are milking COVID lemonade - by Uhuru kicking Ruto out of Jubilee, parliament, etc - and Raila is moonlighting as economic recovery champion so he can endear himself in grassroots.

Don't rule out GEMA elite deciding they don't have to choose btw Raila and Ruto. GEMA elite has many problems with Raila - long before they even embark on trying to sell the unsellable. What might happen is some GEMA elite will try to get safe pair of hands in either Kalonzo or Gideon or even their own - working with Matiangis etc - 3rd horse option - like they attempted with maDVD.

What is obvious is GEMA elite backing Uhuru are selling a lie to Raila, Kalonzo, and Gideon - each is expecting to be backed in 2022. They cannot re-sell the same lie to maDVD so soon.The GEMA people are still in Jubilee with Ruto. Uhuru has to decide to retire - and stay above the fray - and or get dirty.
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Okay Raila and Uhuru are best of friends. Gema elite cannot wait to make Raila PORK. This epiphany finally happened.
This highlighted is Pundit parallel reality. Let give the "ground" time like we gave Ruto numbers.

Raila and Uhuru know BBI with lockdown is now a mirage - they just stringing the gullible freeloaders Kalonzo and Mdvd. BBI message is unpalatable with COVID misery - it too easy to malign "inclusion" card as big burden. So the new "dynamic duo" are milking COVID lemonade - by Uhuru kicking Ruto out of Jubilee, parliament, etc - and Raila is moonlighting as economic recovery champion so he can endear himself in grassroots.

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Raila and Ruto are simply Luo and Kalenjin aliens to GEMA - and certified political vultures - there is nothing like a trustworthy politician. That is a strange, bizarre concept you have invented. :)

Okay Raila and Uhuru are best of friends. Gema elite cannot wait to make Raila PORK. This epiphany finally happened.
This highlighted is Pundit parallel reality. Let give the "ground" time like we gave Ruto numbers.

Raila and Uhuru know BBI with lockdown is now a mirage - they just stringing the gullible freeloaders Kalonzo and Mdvd. BBI message is unpalatable with COVID misery - it too easy to malign "inclusion" card as big burden. So the new "dynamic duo" are milking COVID lemonade - by Uhuru kicking Ruto out of Jubilee, parliament, etc - and Raila is moonlighting as economic recovery champion so he can endear himself in grassroots.
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There are known knowns. Raila and GEMA are well known Known. What GEMA has done to Raila - if they are willing to trust Raila - I will quit Ruto team and join Raila.
Raila and Ruto are simply Luo and Kalenjin aliens to GEMA - and certified political vultures - there is nothing like a trustworthy politician. That is a strange, bizarre concept you have invented. :)


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Kalenjin and Kikuyu were oil and water - then miraculously mix for few years - now they back to bleach and ammonia floor cleaner.. living together in a timebomb. Calm down.

“Politics is the art of the possible” ~ RV Pundit (plagiarized from anonymous)

There are known knowns. Raila and GEMA are well known Known. What GEMA has done to Raila - if they are willing to trust Raila - I will quit Ruto team and join Raila.
Raila and Ruto are simply Luo and Kalenjin aliens to GEMA - and certified political vultures - there is nothing like a trustworthy politician. That is a strange, bizarre concept you have invented. :)

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You can now see the Ruto/Mudavadi/Wetangula formation emerging from the shadows. The people who have recently been going to pledge loyalty to Mudavadi (Richard Ngatia, Chairman KNCCI & Didmus) have been sent by Ruto as advance recce to test the mood on the ground. Well, it is now in full glare!


Richard Ngatia (chairman KNCCI) represents the tenderprenure mandarins who see in Ruto as the continuation of their gorging on oft inflated tenders and pure theft. He made his billions in the health sector and is onw of the biggest cartels at MAfya House. In the Medical Equipment Scheme, his MegaScope worked very closely with Rachel/Ruto to inflate their supplies with malfunctioning Chinese Equipment.

Understand the ejection of Chris Wamalwa from the Deputy Minority Chief Whip position as a strike at the Ruto constellation. Chris is angling for trans Nzoia Governorship and has had a dalliance with Ruto because of the large Kalenjin vote base and the Sebei/Saboats/Pokot of Mt. Elgon region who have always alligned ith KANU and recently URP. ODM, the de-facto Minority Party is extending the Jubilee purge to its rank and file and many are running scared and pledging loyalty to President uhuru and his agenda to unite Kenya (we are back to Moi loyalty pledges of the KANU days and what we used to sing in school way back!)

..... and Wetangula (Governor Bungoma OR one of Deputy PMs); and that is the current formation that Ruto is now toying with.

He now sees that fighting BBI-2 and the referendum may be a lost cause. In fact, he sees BBI-2 as the best route for him to get back at Uhuru and Raila! To make sure that they are a potent force and have momentum, their thinking is for Ruto not to go for President but rather TOSHA Lazy Mudavadi and he goes for Executive PM (where he will be in charge of running government and continuing with the thievery of Jubilee 1.0).  Wetangula will join that constellation to lock the Luhya vote (a 'la Wamalwa Kijana) extending from Kakamega going all the way to Bungoma & Trans Nzoia (in which the Bukusu form 50% of the entire Luhya vote). The idea is to lock/barrel the Luhya vote under this formation on the premise that they will see themselves as being in power!

Bill Ruto will finance the alliance that will be formed/fronted with Mudavadi.... several names floated (Democratic Alliance / People's Alliance). This is a no brainer for him, he has a war chest already stashed up for 20222 and after all he will get back his money within 1st few months in office as Exec. PM from deals...., deals...., deals.... and open stealing as is his practice!


This is out in the open now, however much Mudavadi tries to hide it. Trust him to try and sommersault a thousand times over the obvious. You have also seen the MPs from Western Kenya being hosted at Mr. Atwoli's residence in Kajiado, the absentees are the few ANC and Wetangula MPs.

For now we wait for the Mudavadi, Ruto formation (now no longer a secret) as soon as the Jubilee fallout is complete and from here see how the chessboard will be played next. Problem is that coward Mudavadi may deny this and chicken out on Ruto now that the cat is out of the bag.

You heard it here first!


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Could not have put it better.
Kenya's main unsolved problem and ticking time bomb is the question of RV land. Talk of Kikuyu/Luo rivalry is just a joke. Kales and Kyuks have an open issue to solve with one another. The rest of us are spectators as we can live without RV. That marriage of convenience is over even if the Kikuyu masses want to disagree. The marriage of 2013 was built on quicksand and now the foundation has been swept away.

Kalenjin and Kikuyu were oil and water - then miraculously mix for few years - now they back to bleach and ammonia floor cleaner.. living together in a timebomb. Calm down.

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MaDVD meats Karua and PK. I think for WRS - he'd like to pump up Mudavadi to take off the pressure from himself. Ruto is being sacrificed because all the candidates have ganged up against him. So it best for now to pump maDVD and then later dropped him dead when Uhuru become lame-duck.

As for maDVD - he needs to win Wetangula - before he is taken seriously - because Oparanya and Atwoli are going to play ODM side.

Ultimately no luhya candidate is going anywhere because of disunity.

https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2020-05-29-mudavadi-meets-peter-kenneth-karua-sally-kosgey-amid-speculation-over-realignments/