Pole Pundit & Bill Ruto but I Warned You

[Omollo]

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Saying I told you so isn't a strong person's asset. When issue such a caution to a child playing with a razor blade you often get into the house and pull out the first aid kit & prepare for the bleeding.

I recall the experience I had with my brother KM. I picked up the signals first: we had been shafted by Kibaki in 2003 though the full extent of the bila vaseline act would take come out in 2004. KM refused to admit and he wasn't alone. There ensued a civil war between us who were cheering LDP. I was a late convert to opposition having remained true to KANU & was the last soldier to emerge from the forest. I transferred my all to LDP not least because Mudavadi and other wild animals were not in.

On a visit to Kenya I practically ran over Kibaki huddled with Mudavadi. Shortly after I met Raila driving a splitting new range rover with Mudavadi in the passenger side. I knew Kibaki was preparing to screw Raila.

It's all history.

My advice to Ruto is for him to count his losses. The only way to defeat Uhuru is to let Uhuru defeat himself. If I were Ruto I'd quit & watch Uhuru try to shaft Raila a head of schedule.

Like I wrote before i see an 2007 like alliance in the making. As with 2007 the traitors will be Kalonzo & Mudavadi

[RV Pundit]

I think you have written this severally.When we get to August 23rd 2022 we will know whether Ruto strategy worked or not.So far so good.

[Omollo]

Ok. I didn't realize you're still in denial. Good luck

I think you have written this severally.When we get to August 23rd 2022 we will know whether Ruto strategy worked or not.So far so good.

[Njuri Ncheke]

Ok. I didn't realize you're still in denial. Good luck

Long time brother Omoro, i wondered where you went almost started a thread asking about your whereabouts after the other nipate, funniest stuff is are you related to Robina?? He writes long essays just like you. However i can see you haven't mastered politics well very unfortunate

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Ruto is not quitting the DPORK. Why would you slit your throat as a strategy?

[RV Pundit]

Doesn't make sense does it. Ruto still has his "50"  percent of gov intact -  they may not be as powerful as Uhuru - but they are still useful.

Ruto is not quitting the DPORK. Why would you slit your throat as a strategy?

[Nefertiti]

it's going mostly as we predicted. Pundit once again misses the target by a mile. Spin works up until it runs headfast into reality

Ruto fixed: Uhuru to remain after 2022

[RV Pundit]

I find most political analysts or pundits in kenya a bit dumb - but Manyora is the dumbest of them all - I never waste my time on him. Uhuru to remain in 2022 - how? Will he remove the term limits - nope - end of story. Will Uhuru become a glorified Duale for President Raila - = that got to be the funniest joke in Sub-Sahara Africa.

it's going mostly as we predicted. Pundit once again misses the target by a mile. Spin works up until it runs headfast into reality

Ruto fixed: Uhuru to remain after 2022

[Nefertiti]

Ok. I didn't realize you're still in denial. Good luck

Long time brother Omoro, i wondered where you went almost started a thread asking about your whereabouts after the other nipate, funniest stuff is are you related to Robina?? He writes long essays just like you. However i can see you haven't mastered politics well very unfortunate

Oh am sorry... is there something I missed? Most of the bitter Kikuyus backing Ruto will swallow really hard and rejoin Uhuru. Njuri Ncheke calm down, you ain't alone in denial. Chapter closed - Omollo the Oracle has spoken.

[Nefertiti]

yes Manyora is dumb as a rock. Stuff he says we knew 2 years ago. But he is right about Uhuru slicing out Ruto from Mt Kenya.

You Pundit are absolutely wrong about GEMA sticking out with Ruto or Raila being DOA there. "Selling Raila in GEMA is selling pork in Saudi Arabia" - this is pure spin and hubris. GEMA have never voted for Ruto either. Raila has the big fish while Ruto has the omena. Handshake team will be like NARC - where Uhuru or PK or some GEMA will be touted as Executive PM under Raila. That will be enough to upstage Ruto - cause Raila will get a slice of Mt Kenya, plus his big non-GEMA lead, plus GoK.

BBI 2 has been messed up by C19 and it very unlikely to succeed. However it is not necessary to beat Ruto. Your man is now party-less... shipping out under present hostile climate is tempting fate.

I find most political analysts or pundits in kenya a bit dumb - but Manyora is the dumbest of them all - I never waste my time on him. Uhuru to remain in 2022 - how? Will he remove the term limits - nope - end of story. Will Uhuru become a glorified Duale for President Raila - = that got to be the funniest joke in Sub-Sahara Africa.

it's going mostly as we predicted. Pundit once again misses the target by a mile. Spin works up until it runs headfast into reality

Ruto fixed: Uhuru to remain after 2022

[Nefertiti]

By the way Pundit - Ruto has been avoiding direct battle with Uhuru for mortal fear of backlash in the mountain. This strategy has flopped - now he is going for the jugular. I don't see him winning the propaganda war - here's why

1. Uhuru is GEMA and he is Kalenjin. Tribalism wins - no-brainer
2. Raila and ODM are almost as good as Ruto in propaganda. This largely makes up for Uhuru & Murathe incompetence
3. Hitting out at Mama Ngina and Kenyatta empire - when did Kenyans care about graft or integrity? Ruto is Mr Sleaze himself and his Kalenjin couldn't be bothered
4. PEV is a raw wound that can be ripped open very easily - and Ruto & Uhuru were the warlords breathing fire all over. Those Kiambaa videos will bury Ruto - as his pretend love for GEMA get exposed

I suspect PEV card is being reserved for the 11th hour to finish off Ruto

[RV Pundit]

Sound like  GEMA are ready cut their nose to spite their face. So this plan is very good for Raila. And what is in for GEMA - PM position? How does that help them? Ruto is offering the same 50-50 deal with DPORK - and return to power in 10yrs or earlier if Ruto dies. Ruto at least is trustworthy and has no giant ax-like Raila. GEMA are happy in Jubilee.


You see your theories are very funny.

yes Manyora is dumb as a rock. Stuff he says we knew 2 years ago. But he is right about Uhuru slicing out Ruto from Mt Kenya.

You Pundit are absolutely wrong about GEMA sticking out with Ruto or Raila being DOA there. "Selling Raila in GEMA is selling pork in Saudi Arabia" - this is pure spin and hubris. GEMA have never voted for Ruto either. Raila has the big fish while Ruto has the omena. Handshake team will be like NARC - where Uhuru or PK or some GEMA will be touted as Executive PM under Raila. That will be enough to upstage Ruto - cause Raila will get a slice of Mt Kenya, plus his big non-GEMA lead, plus GoK.

BBI 2 has been messed up by C19 and it very unlikely to succeed. However it is not necessary to beat Ruto. Your man is now party-less... shipping out under present hostile climate is tempting fate.

I find most political analysts or pundits in kenya a bit dumb - but Manyora is the dumbest of them all - I never waste my time on him. Uhuru to remain in 2022 - how? Will he remove the term limits - nope - end of story. Will Uhuru become a glorified Duale for President Raila - = that got to be the funniest joke in Sub-Sahara Africa.

it's going mostly as we predicted. Pundit once again misses the target by a mile. Spin works up until it runs headfast into reality

Ruto fixed: Uhuru to remain after 2022

[RV Pundit]

What is there to gain by fighting Uhuru. Nothing. Ruto is not an idiot like Raila. 

As long as the constitution remains unchanged - Raila is going nowhere. 

This is just the redux of Raila in 2002 - with Moi enjoying him.

If Uhuru loves Raila - let him purge Ruto people in the cabinet - and put Raila people.

Raila is just being played 10-NIL by GEMA - who are busy stashing their bank accounts - while the idiot as always is dreaming of Statehouse.

As we get to 2022 - it will be very clear - who is getting played. The majority of GEMA MPS and leaders are not stupid to stick with Ruto.

Politics is not like designing a website - What you see is what you get - that naive people like you and Raila can hack - there is a lot more intrigues, tricks, and subterfuge.

By the way Pundit - Ruto has been avoiding direct battle with Uhuru for mortal fear of backlash in the mountain. This strategy has flopped - now he is going for the jugular. I don't see him winning the propaganda war - here's why

1. Uhuru is GEMA and he is Kalenjin. Tribalism wins - no-brainer
2. Raila and ODM are almost as good as Ruto in propaganda. This largely makes up for Uhuru & Murathe incompetence
3. Hitting out at Mama Ngina and Kenyatta empire - when did Kenyans care about graft or integrity? Ruto is Mr Sleaze himself and his Kalenjin couldn't be bothered
4. PEV is a raw wound that can be ripped open very easily - and Ruto & Uhuru were the warlords breathing fire all over. Those Kiambaa videos will bury Ruto - as his pretend love for GEMA get exposed

I suspect PEV card is being reserved for the 11th hour to finish off Ruto

[Njuri Ncheke]

I need to clap for you both punda and robina, how you can sustain an endless duet baffles me, and that's one reason i joined this nipate. That aside Robina has managed to defeat Punda by luring him on long essays, punda is very good for short straight battles but engaged on long rumbling essays he easily loses his cool and focus... But apart from that most
Reasoning from robina and the like is that Ruto is trapped without an exit. Ruto is far ahead in the mental section here all his foes combined come short, Ruto has managed to bait all his enemies into exposing themselves and wanking dry, a perfect stalinist move just like what Kim jong Un has done in N.korea,his enemies were celebrating his death now he knows them all. Since am not good at inshas i leave robina with a question, have you considered the options Ruto has? I will educate you if you dont

[Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants]

I find most political analysts or pundits in kenya a bit dumb - but Manyora is the dumbest of them all - I never waste my time on him. Uhuru to remain in 2022 - how? Will he remove the term limits - nope - end of story. Will Uhuru become a glorified Duale for President Raila - = that got to be the funniest joke in Sub-Sahara Africa.

it's going mostly as we predicted. Pundit once again misses the target by a mile. Spin works up until it runs headfast into reality


Ruto fixed: Uhuru to remain after 2022

These are the intellectuals.  Manyiora is a bit like a polished version of Ngatia wa Scandinavia.  He shares some known facts, and then some wild conclusions.  He also brings in Kalonzo, Mudavadi without mention without mentioning how their base would be captured.  Though I suspect Luhyas long moved into Raila column with/without their so-called leaders.  Kalonzo may also be facing serious challenges in ukambani.

It's true that kamwana does not want to continue with the hustler.  Beyond that, things like what or who he wants instead, it's just too complicated to say without relying heavily on conjecture.

[Nefertiti]

I find most political analysts or pundits in kenya a bit dumb - but Manyora is the dumbest of them all - I never waste my time on him. Uhuru to remain in 2022 - how? Will he remove the term limits - nope - end of story. Will Uhuru become a glorified Duale for President Raila - = that got to be the funniest joke in Sub-Sahara Africa.

it's going mostly as we predicted. Pundit once again misses the target by a mile. Spin works up until it runs headfast into reality


Ruto fixed: Uhuru to remain after 2022

These are the intellectuals.  Manyiora is a bit like a polished version of Ngatia wa Scandinavia.  He shares some known facts, and then some wild conclusions.  He also brings in Kalonzo, Mudavadi without mention without mentioning how their base would be captured.  Though I suspect Luhyas long moved into Raila column with/without their so-called leaders.  Kalonzo may also be facing serious challenges in ukambani.

It's true that kamwana does not want to continue with the hustler.  Beyond that, things like what or who he wants instead, it's just too complicated to say without relying heavily on conjecture.

Yes Manyora is a useless dimwit. I suspect these folks read blogs and then posture - plagiarism and intellectual dishonesty. Only Ndii and Ngunyi have abit of grey cells - but they are too compromised (Ngunyi) or jaundiced (Ndii) to do honest analysis.

Reality: Baba has a big headway in non-GEMA over Mobutu. Even in Mt Kenya Pundit's stories are just that - stories and conjecture. Baba is a sure hand in about 35% of the the country - Luo, Luhya, Gusii, Mijikenda, MATUSA and huge swathes of NFD.

In Ukambani Kalonzo cannot show any winning formula - the governors are with Raila and can slice off a good chunk. Although Kalonzo is still wishy-washy his actions do not indicate any desire to toil in the opposition or hang with Ruto. 

Places like Gusii Ruto is DOA unless he can miraculously rope in Matiang'i, Ongeri, etc - dyed in the wool Uhuru diehards.

Western Ruto has Barasa, Echesa and Khalwale - against Oparanya and all the governors and senators back Raila. Raila scored 95% of Luhya in 2017.

NFD - Raila got a good chunk I think 40%. But the 60% Jubilee is not all with Ruto. People like Yusuf Haji, Ali Roba, Ukur Yatani are the heavy punchers and are clearly pro-Baba.

Maa you see ole Lenkus and ole Kinas - even ole Tunai long deserted the hustler. Don't even mention Tobiko and Mau poisoned chalice.

In Coast Ruto has Jumwa and Jicho Pevu - against Joho, Kingi, Samboja and the shebang.

If Pundit could just lower the gigantic blinkers for a sec- which is a big ask -  Raila has a runaway lead over the hustler.

[Nefertiti]

Your Uhurutopia and they are playing Raila is up is down theory. All the GEMA senators, governors and creme backing Raila are equally not stupid and they are more influencial than Kuria and Nyoro. We are still waiting for you to revise your pseudo-science - how Kareke Mbiuki will infleunce Tharaka over Muthomi Njuki. You can't wind reality like a majira clock - tribalism will not end because Ruto your Messiah is the candidate.

Raila is DOA in GEMA... what's your evidence for this spin? Have GEMA ever voted for Kalenjin? Ohoo Ruto is special. You remind me of pre-2007 days when we were told by Kibaki crew that Kenya cannot vote Raila and Luo. Hehe - how did that go? Next thing ballots were being stuffed in Nithi like miraa - to beat the unelectable Raila. Ruto and Tangatanga propaganda is not equal to ground support. All those La Mada comedies, Uhuru being heckled and chiefs vetting folks - Uhuru is donating cash to the UK - all that nonsense and spin tell us the truth - Ruto is scared shitless of taking on Uhuru in Mt Kenya. Why is he scared? Why sing Uhuru Nyayo if he has the ground? Let see now how he herds his sheep to URP 2 - he will wind up with 15% Kalenjin and pastoralists. Naturally you tell us it Murathe & Tuju kicking him out of Jubilee not Uhuru.

About Ruto is honest & reliable  - this joke we dispensed a while back - but seem you are back to all straws. Ruto is a world-class backstabber. From playing Chesire and Saina in Eldoret, Mutula in Kanu, riding the Moi tailcoats then stab them in the back, pocket Kibaki pocket change and falsely indict Raila over Mau and ICC, pull Jubilee mlolongo in hare-brained strategy to upstage Uhuru - the rap sheet is a mile long. Now of course he is Guinness Book looter who spread the gospel of sleaze faster than COVID-19

Of course there is the small matter of PEV and genocidal Kalenjin. Why should GEMA and Kikuyu back an all but convicted butcher? If they fall out with Raila as PORK - they merely get fired or short-changed. If they fall out with Ruto - they are hostage in RV - their lives and property are mere karata in Kalenjin. Nothing in GEMA interest or history makes Ruto a safer bet than Raila. Uhuru is not insane and is doing what is good for GEMA. Unlike the Nyoro and Kuria bought for 30 pieces of silver.

What is there to gain by fighting Uhuru. Nothing. Ruto is not an idiot like Raila. 

As long as the constitution remains unchanged - Raila is going nowhere. 

This is just the redux of Raila in 2002 - with Moi enjoying him.

If Uhuru loves Raila - let him purge Ruto people in the cabinet - and put Raila people.

Raila is just being played 10-NIL by GEMA - who are busy stashing their bank accounts - while the idiot as always is dreaming of Statehouse.

As we get to 2022 - it will be very clear - who is getting played. The majority of GEMA MPS and leaders are not stupid to stick with Ruto.

Politics is not like designing a website - What you see is what you get - that naive people like you and Raila can hack - there is a lot more intrigues, tricks, and subterfuge.

[RV Pundit]

So your theory is Uhuru will endorse Raila and Raila will win on the back of GEMA and Non-GEMA. or Pajero's GEMA will pull a GEMA rabbit and back him? Or what exactly are you talking about.

The constitution looks increasingly difficult to change.

So we are back to exchanging only two positions - PORK and DPORK (although Uhuru has rained on DPORK position).

My position remain as unchanged. GEMA will back Ruto with or without Uhuru.

Initially, I was imagining Ruto getting the backing of Uhuru to intercede on his behalf - but the opposite is happening.

Uhuru can get some GEMA back if he tries the Pajero option - find some GEMA and prop him up. Raila OPTION is  Kicheko biggest.

Your Uhurutopia and they are playing Raila is up is down theory. All the GEMA senators, governors and creme backing Raila are equally not stupid and they are more influencial than Kuria and Nyoro. We are still waiting for you to revise your pseudo-science - how Kareke Mbiuki will infleunce Tharaka over Muthomi Njuki. You can't wind reality like a majira clock - tribalism will not end because Ruto your Messiah is the candidate.

Raila is DOA in GEMA... what's your evidence for this spin? Have GEMA ever voted for Kalenjin? Ohoo Ruto is special. You remind me of pre-2007 days when we were told by Kibaki crew that Kenya cannot vote Raila and Luo. Hehe - how did that go? Next thing ballots were being stuffed in Nithi like miraa - to beat the unelectable Raila. Ruto and Tangatanga propaganda is not equal to ground support. All those La Mada comedies, Uhuru being heckled and chiefs vetting folks - Uhuru is donating cash to the UK - all that nonsense and spin tell us the truth - Ruto is scared shitless of taking on Uhuru in Mt Kenya. Why is he scared? Why sing Uhuru Nyayo if he has the ground? Let see now how he herds his sheep to URP 2 - he will wind up with 15% Kalenjin and pastoralists. Naturally you tell us it Murathe & Tuju kicking him out of Jubilee not Uhuru.

About Ruto is honest & reliable  - this joke we dispensed a while back - but seem you are back to all straws. Ruto is a world-class backstabber. From playing Chesire and Saina in Eldoret, Mutula in Kanu, riding the Moi tailcoats then stab them in the back, pocket Kibaki pocket change and falsely indict Raila over Mau and ICC, pull Jubilee mlolongo in hare-brained strategy to upstage Uhuru - the rap sheet is a mile long. Now of course he is Guinness Book looter who spread the gospel of sleaze faster than COVID-19

Of course there is the small matter of PEV and genocidal Kalenjin. Why should GEMA and Kikuyu back an all but convicted butcher? If they fall out with Raila as PORK - they merely get fired or short-changed. If they fall out with Ruto - they are hostage in RV - their lives and property are mere karata in Kalenjin. Nothing in GEMA interest or history makes Ruto a safer bet than Raila. Uhuru is not insane and is doing what is good for GEMA. Unlike the Nyoro and Kuria bought for 30 pieces of silver.

What is there to gain by fighting Uhuru. Nothing. Ruto is not an idiot like Raila. 

As long as the constitution remains unchanged - Raila is going nowhere. 

This is just the redux of Raila in 2002 - with Moi enjoying him.

If Uhuru loves Raila - let him purge Ruto people in the cabinet - and put Raila people.

Raila is just being played 10-NIL by GEMA - who are busy stashing their bank accounts - while the idiot as always is dreaming of Statehouse.

As we get to 2022 - it will be very clear - who is getting played. The majority of GEMA MPS and leaders are not stupid to stick with Ruto.

Politics is not like designing a website - What you see is what you get - that naive people like you and Raila can hack - there is a lot more intrigues, tricks, and subterfuge.

[Nefertiti]

Uhuru has been lining up GEMA bigwigs behind Raila - so it not a theory. Uhuru will land Raila a big chunk of GEMA. He has deliberately propped Kagwes and Munyas - we are yet to see if he will prop PK as well. The ultimate card remains hidden under the table but it clear as daylight that Ruto is new kîmûndû.

Ruto with his omena - Nyoro and Kuria - will wind up like Raila 2013 in Kalenjin. Kuria or Ngirici is no different from Kosgey or Sirma. Of course it pure spin that Raila is DOA or Ruto is shoe in. Both got there by riding on Kibaki and Uhuru - then Raila "Njamba" got demonized after falling out with Kibaki. Now it Ruto turn to be demonized - I hear there are dirty videos on social media from weekend? - it going like clockwork. Sorry to burst your bubble but Ruto is not special nor immune to demonization. Kiambaa videos will shred him to pieces - he will be down to Raila 2% - when they are done with him.

You are right about BBI 2 being torpedoed by COVID. But that is unnecessary to hang Ruto. Already the bloke is being rendered party-less. He need to pull the UDM-to-URP miracle - herd GEMA and Jumwas to Tangatanga Party - before you sober up as he poll 15% like 2012.

So your theory is Uhuru will endorse Raila and Raila will win on the back of GEMA and Non-GEMA. or Pajero's GEMA will pull a GEMA rabbit and back him? Or what exactly are you talking about.

The constitution looks increasingly difficult to change.

So we are back to exchanging only two positions - PORK and DPORK (although Uhuru has rained on DPORK position).

My position remain as unchanged. GEMA will back Ruto with or without Uhuru.

Initially, I was imagining Ruto getting the backing of Uhuru to intercede on his behalf - but the opposite is happening.

Uhuru can get some GEMA back if he tries the Pajero option - find some GEMA and prop him up. Raila OPTION is  Kicheko biggest.

[Nefertiti]

Pundit so is Ruto still running with Kiunjuri as DPORK? The bloke is MIA as Kagwe hog the airwaves. Or is he waiting for Uhuru to endorse him - I doubt Ruto is delusional like you.