I hope Democrats lose - Obama is the biggest fraud

[KenyanPlato]

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I would vote for trump before I vote for Biden or anyone associated with that fraud Obama

[Nefertiti]

Lol. I mailed in for Sanders too. But I don't think Obama is a fraud... the Establishment is scared Sanders's radical ideas would tank them in Congress. That's a miscalculation imho.

The DNC clearly missed the Clinton lesson where they rigged her in and Sanders's base boycotted while some went for Trump. I see a very likely repeat of that in November.

[Nefertiti]

In 2016 the DNC would send Clinton advanced copies of the debate questions... it was brazen rigging. Dems lost everything - WH, Congress, most states. I don't know what wisdom justifies their shenanigans today. They are peddling the same down-ballot narrative. Or like Kadame says they simply don't care and prefer Trump over Sanders.

[Kadudu]

What is the definition of a fraud to you? Kindly use words you understand.
You can be against his policies, but do not get personal on a man who run the US for 8 years and not even one scandal can be associated with his term in office.

I would vote for trump before I vote for Biden or anyone associated with that fraud Obama

[RV Pundit]

They will lose of course

[Arcadian_Dreamer]

You all secretly want Trump to win  you are disappointed coz you thought Bernie would steamroll through, and hand over the presidency on a platter to Trumpf

We can see through you fake concern.

[KenyanPlato]

You all secretly want Trump to win  you are disappointed coz you thought Bernie would steamroll through, and hand over the presidency on a platter to Trumpf
Trump is good for business bad for leeches.
We can see through you fake concern.

[Arcadian_Dreamer]

Trump is good for business bad for leeches.

There you have it folks 

Amejitoa mwenyewe hadharani

Bernie is a socialist so you should have been relieved by the primary results like the rest of America.

Black skin, white mask

[Dear Mami]

You all secretly want Trump to win  you are disappointed coz you thought Bernie would steamroll through, and hand over the presidency on a platter to Trumpf

We can see through you fake concern.

You are wrong. I absolutely want Bernie to win, not just the nomination but the election: It comes down to whether you see Trump as the problem or a symptom, as I've heard it put. Middle class people can afford to see him as the problem; they long for a return to the Obama years, they think things were basically ok then. But young pple facing a hard economic situation and poor people don't see Trump as the problem but rather a result of the problem, which is a decades old problem getting worse; so they want REAL change, not just a 'normal president', but change to their lives. I have absolutely no interest in a Biden presidency: He is a war hawk, has a racist past, and is libertarian, actually wanted to cut social security, has no interest in Med4all, and has early onset dementia os sthing like that. BUT, as I said, I'd support it because another 4 years of Trump means lots of immigrants are seriously screwed.

[Georgesoros]

You all secretly want Trump to win  you are disappointed coz you thought Bernie would steamroll through, and hand over the presidency on a platter to Trumpf

We can see through you fake concern.

You are wrong. I absolutely want Bernie to win, not just the nomination but the election: It comes down to whether you see Trump as the problem or a symptom, as I've heard it put. Middle class people can afford to see him as the problem; they long for a return to the Obama years, they think things were basically ok then. But young pple facing a hard economic situation and poor people don't see Trump as the problem but rather a result of the problem, which is a decades old problem getting worse; so they want REAL change, not just a 'normal president', but change to their lives. I have absolutely no interest in a Biden presidency: He is a war hawk, has a racist past, and is libertarian, actually wanted to cut social security, has no interest in Med4all, and has early onset dementia os sthing like that. BUT, as I said, I'd support it because another 4 years of Trump means lots of immigrants are seriously screwed.

The amount of information they hide from him daily is staggering. They don't want to tell him many things because he will destroy USA with his impulsivity. So far he is borrrowing to the tune of $1.5 trillion a year. Bad for middle class and long term viability of USA. Imagine another 4yrs.... Dept of Injustice, Homeland Insecurity....Trump house not White House...Of course FBI will be full of cronies....just like congress and now the Supreme Court.

[Kichwa]

Too bad for you bro. Biden is the next President that's why Trump is scared of him.  When American people look at both of them standing side by side, who do you think they are going to pick. They are about the same height, one is yellow and obese, they other one is a thin and lean white man.  Trump was just lucky he ran against Hilary who was a woman and unpopular. This time Biden is going to get all women, minorities plus a few moderate to progressive white men.  Trump will only get those stupid white nationalists. Obama is the right there with Lincoln and Geroge Washington.

I would vote for trump before I vote for Biden or anyone associated with that fraud Obama

[Arcadian_Dreamer]

You are wrong. I absolutely want Bernie to win, not just the nomination but the election: It comes down to whether you see Trump as the problem or a symptom, as I've heard it put. Middle class people can afford to see him as the problem; they long for a return to the Obama years, they think things were basically ok then. But young pple facing a hard economic situation and poor people don't see Trump as the problem but rather a result of the problem, which is a decades old problem getting worse; so they want REAL change, not just a 'normal president', but change to their lives. I have absolutely no interest in a Biden presidency: He is a war hawk, has a racist past, and is libertarian, actually wanted to cut social security, has no interest in Med4all, and has early onset dementia os sthing like that. BUT, as I said, I'd support it because another 4 years of Trump means lots of immigrants are seriously screwed.

The American people have made it clear they don't want a REVOLUTION. Things are going good for majority of Americans.

It has never been better economically in the States; young & old, white & black, educated & uneducated, everyone is doing well. So what is exactly Bernie offering ? More taxes for shit we don't want. Sorry

Healthcare issue won't be solved by creating medicare for all, it is way too simplistic a liberal trope. The real issue is healthcare in this country costs way too much. The problem is one of COST, and it keeps growing. It will bankrupt the government eventually. Employers keep raising premiums every year, I experienced it. America is too big and complex for a government run healthcare.
Biden is no war hawk, America is tired of wars. Trump is more racist what are you going to do, Trump is mentally ill witness his twitter tirades, so you can't deceive us. Most of you want Trump to win, that is why Biden surge caused you heartburn.

[Arcadian_Dreamer]

The amount of information they hide from him daily is staggering. They don't want to tell him many things because he will destroy USA with his impulsivity. So far he is borrrowing to the tune of $1.5 trillion a year. Bad for middle class and long term viability of USA. Imagine another 4yrs.... Dept of Injustice, Homeland Insecurity....Trump house not White House...Of course FBI will be full of cronies....just like congress and now the Supreme Court.

Agreed. And they want to risk a weak socialist candidate against Trumpf. They are secret Trump lovers, only way to explain their Bernie love. Kenyanplato is open about it.

[Arcadian_Dreamer]

Too bad for you bro. Biden is the next President that's why Trump is scared of him.  When American people look at both of them standing side by side, who do you think they are going to pick. They are about the same height, one is yellow and obese, they other one is a thin and lean white man.  Trump was just lucky he ran against Hilary who was a woman and unpopular. This time Biden is going to get all women, minorities plus a few moderate to progressive white men.  Trump will only get those stupid white nationalists. Obama is the right there with Lincoln and Geroge Washington.

I would vote for trump before I vote for Biden or anyone associated with that fraud Obama

Don't bother with that old fool it is that okuyu reflexive Jaluo hatred/fear that is rearing its ugly head. 

Anything involving Jaluo and they can't function or think straight. They are petrified of Luos. Uthamaki are weak people.

 

[Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants]

You all secretly want Trump to win  you are disappointed coz you thought Bernie would steamroll through, and hand over the presidency on a platter to Trumpf

We can see through you fake concern.

You are wrong. I absolutely want Bernie to win, not just the nomination but the election: It comes down to whether you see Trump as the problem or a symptom, as I've heard it put. Middle class people can afford to see him as the problem; they long for a return to the Obama years, they think things were basically ok then. But young pple facing a hard economic situation and poor people don't see Trump as the problem but rather a result of the problem, which is a decades old problem getting worse; so they want REAL change, not just a 'normal president', but change to their lives. I have absolutely no interest in a Biden presidency: He is a war hawk, has a racist past, and is libertarian, actually wanted to cut social security, has no interest in Med4all, and has early onset dementia os sthing like that. BUT, as I said, I'd support it because another 4 years of Trump means lots of immigrants are seriously screwed.

So in your mind, unless you vote for Bernie, it means you are okay with Trump?  I think you can like Bernie and still see reasons why his ticket is a losing one in the general election.  IMO Democrats don't have a viable option of extremism that Republicans have.  It's a party built on inclusion, while the Republican party has perfected exclusion.  Just look at any Congressional pictures of the two parties.

The idea that Joe Biden was once a racist is hilarious.  Not a single racist bone in that guy's body. 

[Dear Mami]

You all secretly want Trump to win  you are disappointed coz you thought Bernie would steamroll through, and hand over the presidency on a platter to Trumpf

We can see through you fake concern.

You are wrong. I absolutely want Bernie to win, not just the nomination but the election: It comes down to whether you see Trump as the problem or a symptom, as I've heard it put. Middle class people can afford to see him as the problem; they long for a return to the Obama years, they think things were basically ok then. But young pple facing a hard economic situation and poor people don't see Trump as the problem but rather a result of the problem, which is a decades old problem getting worse; so they want REAL change, not just a 'normal president', but change to their lives. I have absolutely no interest in a Biden presidency: He is a war hawk, has a racist past, and is libertarian, actually wanted to cut social security, has no interest in Med4all, and has early onset dementia os sthing like that. BUT, as I said, I'd support it because another 4 years of Trump means lots of immigrants are seriously screwed.

So in your mind, unless you vote for Bernie, it means you are okay with Trump?  I think you can like Bernie and still see reasons why his ticket is a losing one in the general election.  IMO Democrats don't have a viable option of extremism that Republicans have.  It's a party built on inclusion, while the Republican party has perfected exclusion.  Just look at any Congressional pictures of the two parties.

The idea that Joe Biden was once a racist is hilarious.  Not a single racist bone in that guy's body.

Where did you get that notion from what I said, though? Literally just said the opposite, so I'm confused.

Biden worked with segregationists to prevent bussing integration, it's one of the things Kamala went after him for. If you don't believe he has a problem, cognitively, then he has also lied that he was arrested for Mandela: likely only to counter Bernie's being arrested in the civil rights movement. Is he a Black hater? No. That's why I said he has a racist past, not that he's racist today. It's a minus against him in my books when comparing him to others. Does it mean I think he's worse than Trump? Of course not. Again, I literally just said I'll support him in that scenario. I'd support anyone else except Bloomberg.

[Dear Mami]

The amount of information they hide from him daily is staggering. They don't want to tell him many things because he will destroy USA with his impulsivity. So far he is borrrowing to the tune of $1.5 trillion a year. Bad for middle class and long term viability of USA. Imagine another 4yrs.... Dept of Injustice, Homeland Insecurity....Trump house not White House...Of course FBI will be full of cronies....just like congress and now the Supreme Court.

Agreed. And they want to risk a weak socialist candidate against Trumpf. They are secret Trump lovers, only way to explain their Bernie love. Kenyanplato is open about it.

You are a typical establishment shill. You don't even know Biden's record on war: enuff said. I'll support Stacey Abrams or his VP. Otherwise, support for him from me--not that I can cast a ballot anyway, but my family can--is just to prevent Trump from deporting dreamers as far as I'm concerned; not a vote for Biden but against Trump.

Also, this:

Healthcare issue won't be solved by creating medicare for all, it is way too simplistic a liberal trope. The real issue is healthcare in this country costs way too much. The problem is one of COST, and it keeps growing. It will bankrupt the government eventually. Employers keep raising premiums every year, I experienced it. America is too big and complex for a government run healthcare.

is frankly nonsense. The COST is due (1) to the premiums/co-pays/deductibles--basically profits for shareholders of the insurance companies and admin costs of up to 40%: both of them would be eliminated in a single payer scheme where the govt is the insurer, and (2) pharmaceutical companies setting the prices of drugs as they please because the U.S. is the only Western govt that doesn't negotiate drug prices: Americans pay 10 times for drugs as much as other people.

All that is resolved by having one insurer who is the govt and who the pharms MUST negotiate with.

You are just giving a far-right argument better argued by people like Ron Paul and Ted Cruz who oppose such a program on a philosophy of selfishness rather than economics. Yale doctors/researchers just recently published in the lancet a study that shows Med4all would decrease costs of healthcare. The only credible argument against this is that u think law-makers would block it--their donors are exactly those corporations that are now profiting off of this system at everyone else's expense, but to give this right-wing talking point is ridiculous.

[Dear Mami]

You all secretly want Trump to win  you are disappointed coz you thought Bernie would steamroll through, and hand over the presidency on a platter to Trumpf

We can see through you fake concern.

You are wrong. I absolutely want Bernie to win, not just the nomination but the election: It comes down to whether you see Trump as the problem or a symptom, as I've heard it put. Middle class people can afford to see him as the problem; they long for a return to the Obama years, they think things were basically ok then. But young pple facing a hard economic situation and poor people don't see Trump as the problem but rather a result of the problem, which is a decades old problem getting worse; so they want REAL change, not just a 'normal president', but change to their lives. I have absolutely no interest in a Biden presidency: He is a war hawk, has a racist past, and is libertarian, actually wanted to cut social security, has no interest in Med4all, and has early onset dementia os sthing like that. BUT, as I said, I'd support it because another 4 years of Trump means lots of immigrants are seriously screwed.

The amount of information they hide from him daily is staggering. They don't want to tell him many things because he will destroy USA with his impulsivity. So far he is borrrowing to the tune of $1.5 trillion a year. Bad for middle class and long term viability of USA. Imagine another 4yrs.... Dept of Injustice, Homeland Insecurity....Trump house not White House...Of course FBI will be full of cronies....just like congress and now the Supreme Court.

Exactly! He ran a fake populist campaign in 2016, but once in, ended up serving the same master. He's gone on overdrive with the culture thing, being super anti-immigrant, because he gives the poor nothing. That's the establishment mode of operation. They call social programs nuts but are quite happy to throw money at unnecessary wars and tax cuts for those who don't need extra money. Tis amazing.

[Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants]

You all secretly want Trump to win  you are disappointed coz you thought Bernie would steamroll through, and hand over the presidency on a platter to Trumpf

We can see through you fake concern.

You are wrong. I absolutely want Bernie to win, not just the nomination but the election: It comes down to whether you see Trump as the problem or a symptom, as I've heard it put. Middle class people can afford to see him as the problem; they long for a return to the Obama years, they think things were basically ok then. But young pple facing a hard economic situation and poor people don't see Trump as the problem but rather a result of the problem, which is a decades old problem getting worse; so they want REAL change, not just a 'normal president', but change to their lives. I have absolutely no interest in a Biden presidency: He is a war hawk, has a racist past, and is libertarian, actually wanted to cut social security, has no interest in Med4all, and has early onset dementia os sthing like that. BUT, as I said, I'd support it because another 4 years of Trump means lots of immigrants are seriously screwed.

So in your mind, unless you vote for Bernie, it means you are okay with Trump?  I think you can like Bernie and still see reasons why his ticket is a losing one in the general election.  IMO Democrats don't have a viable option of extremism that Republicans have.  It's a party built on inclusion, while the Republican party has perfected exclusion.  Just look at any Congressional pictures of the two parties.

The idea that Joe Biden was once a racist is hilarious.  Not a single racist bone in that guy's body.

Where did you get that notion from what I said, though? Literally just said the opposite, so I'm confused.

Biden worked with segregationists to prevent bussing integration, it's one of the things Kamala went after him for. If you don't believe he has a problem, cognitively, then he has also lied that he was arrested for Mandela: likely only to counter Bernie's being arrested in the civil rights movement. Is he a Black hater? No. That's why I said he has a racist past, not that he's racist today. It's a minus against him in my books when comparing him to others. Does it mean I think he's worse than Trump? Of course not. Again, I literally just said I'll support him in that scenario. I'd support anyone else except Bloomberg.

I totally misread your post and conflated it with some other stuff you mentioned about the Dem establishment willing to lose to Trump than let Bernie win on another thread.  One reason I prefer one thread-one topic.  I take that back.

Biden opposing school busing because black kids shouldn't be with white kids in the same school?  I haven't looked into that Kamala Harris claim but I am sure there is a less offensive and more plausible explanation for whatever vote he took. 

On a separate note, Kamala Harris is among the least qualified to talk about concern for minorities.  I know you enjoy reading.  When you get chance google Kevin Cooper whose ass is still on death-row in a California prison.  I cannot stand that woman.

[Dear Mami]

Kamala is a witch, ye! Btw her and Bloomberg, Idk who's worse. I guess her sociopathic actions were motivated by sheer ambition whereas Bloomberg is an uncomplicated, old-style racist. However, Biden did oppose bussing, lies abt Mandela/Apartheid (though I still insist this is confusion rather than lying, putting everything in context) and pushed for the 90s crime bill/drugs stuff that decimated the AA community, along with Hillary. I honestly believe the only reason Black pple feel comfortable with him is his association with Obama, but Obama chose him in 2008 to win over Whites who would otherwise feel uncomfortable voting for a Black guy. I absolutely do not think he's racist, I just don't believe that he ever gave two cents abt Black pple. It's better than Trump, Bloomberg etc. It just doesn't inspire my enthusiastic support. He's also libertarian. Virtually no diff btw him and say, George Bush Jr.

I see the DNC as the bonafide Republican, conservative party whereas the RNC has turned fascist-ish. There's no Left party in the U.S.