Kiunjuri v Uhuru

[RV Pundit]

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https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2020-02-01-kiunjuri-did-not-deliver-uhuru-hits-back/ look like we are on.Uhuru bought his way to kikuyu leadership when he stood with kikuyus during PEV as Kibaki we have all security forces failed.Something that earned him a trip to Hague. He was legit now.Not the Moi illegitimate political son.He has eroded nearly all that in two years of bizzare nearly Byzantine strategy. Kiunjuri has always been legit albeit a diaspora.He has strong footing in Nyeri & kirinyaga..the challenges is kiambu n muranga.

[RV Pundit]

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[Pajero]

Kiunjuri is a non starter bana,get some work to do

[Nefertiti]

Pundit and Kiunjuri cannot stop reggae

https://www.kenyamoja.com/video/watch-how-president-uhuru-kenyatta-enjoyed-himself-during-ub40-concert-carnivore-rt-kenya

[RV Pundit]

PK who last won a seat in 2007 is the real non-starter - the same time Raila won anything (Langata Mp). That is like 13yrs ago and will be 15yrs (a generation) in 2022.

Kiunjuri is a non starter bana,get some work to do

[RV Pundit]

The sooner he can retire to enjoy himself the better for him - because right now while he is nursing a hangover - Ruto is running circle around him - and worse the country is going through turmoil - both political and economic - because he clearly cannot run the gov - and Matiangi pia ameshindwa.

Pundit and Kiunjuri cannot stop reggae

https://www.kenyamoja.com/video/watch-how-president-uhuru-kenyatta-enjoyed-himself-during-ub40-concert-carnivore-rt-kenya

[Nefertiti]

Woi Pundit and your hubris and delusions. Giving truckloads of currency to a nobody because Ruto badly needs Mt Kenya. It's Ruto's misadventures that Uhuru is tackling on the side as he fixes the real issues that affect Kenya longterm - instability, grievances and inequity. It took you almost two years to accept Uhurutopia is dead as dodo... soon you will concede what every Tom, Dick, Harry and Wanjiku sees - that Ruto has suffered loss after loss since election 2017. Your boy is being beaten like isukuti and you are still spinning long tales here. Non-Gema Raila has taken. Central Uhuru is taking.

The country is running quite fine without your fake hero... folks are in reggae mood

[Nefertiti]

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Tangatanga freeloaders want credit for GoK goodies - they are being chased like dogs. As usual they deflect the blame to governors... no rat can bell the cat 

[RV Pundit]

Roadside pronouncement are not goodies. He can even mpesa every kikuyu 10k but as long as he is selling Raila, Handshake and BBI - they will tell him to go to hell. That is the bottomline. Now kibicho is so afraid they will be heckled they have chiefs vetting people attending Uhuru events.

Tangatanga freeloaders want credit for GoK goodies - they are being chased like dogs. As usual they deflect the blame to governors... no rat can bell the cat 

[Nefertiti]

Well, he is dishing out cash for farmers - hiking rice prices, opening factories, roads etc. Not sure why Ruto MPs are dying to accompany him. The new Tangatanga spin for Uhuru 2.0 is "he is selling Raila". At least Uhurutopia nonsense has died - now folks are being literally whipped out of the Uhuru podium

Roadside pronouncement are not goodies. He can even mpesa every kikuyu 10k but as long as he is selling Raila, Handshake and BBI - they will tell him to go to hell. That is the bottomline. Now kibicho is so afraid they will be heckled they have chiefs vetting people attending Uhuru events.

[Nefertiti]

Pundit no Handshake or Kieleweke MPs bother with Ruto meetings. But Tangatanga have to be locked out or chased - with a whip! - from Uhuru meetings. Discuss

[RV Pundit]

Mps attends a presidential or state function. That has always been a given - even in opposition zones. They are not political meetings. If Uhuru wants to attend political rallies - they should make it very clear - like Uhuru set to attend Kieleweke rally . You're so young & naive you need to go back to 80s and 90s - and deal with these basic stuff.

Pundit no Handshake or Kieleweke MPs bother with Ruto meetings. But Tangatanga have to be locked out or chased - with a whip! - from Uhuru meetings. Discuss

[Nefertiti]

I am young and naive because I don't support Ruto Tangatanga need the "tuko pamoja" charade for fear of alienating Mt Kenya. Uhuru is making that so difficult by dragging them screaming and kicking out of his meetings. As you expect they blame Kimemia or Kinyanjui or Waiguru - this time Jezebel get a pass - anyone and anything but Uhuru.

From a mere option - Mt Kenya is now a MUST-WIN for Ruto. No mistake can be allowed. Expect all implausible spins - as chiefs and cops whip people out of meetings - and Kibicho or governor get blamed.

Mps attends a presidential or state function. That has always been a given - even in opposition zones. They are not political meetings. If Uhuru wants to attend political rallies - they should make it very clear - like Uhuru set to attend Kieleweke rally . You're so young & naive you need to go back to 80s and 90s - and deal with these basic stuff.

[RV Pundit]

You're evidently so young and naive - because there are so many Raila supporters we have seen over the years - but none as young and naive as you're. There are things that are given - stuff we debated and finished in 90s. We are not going to discuss Chiefs  and politics now. It ridiculous.

Mt kenya is not a must win for Ruto. It depend on the scenarios. For 50% - yes. For a re-run - NO.

Now talking of Raila.If NASA remain broken - and Raila doesn't manage to re-built it - then he is even bad position.

Mt kenya will not vote for Raila soon.

So Ruto has to know who he is competing with and under what system. If the status quo remain - his best bet is to stick with Kiunjuri - and slice off huge portion of GEMA - and attempt 50% or a re-run.

If we go parliamentary - then game shift to sponsoring as many MPs as possible - and hoping they win - and then entering coalitions with someone with a 20-30mps. Ruto is like a fish under water in getting & keeping Mps. Raila is used to big podium politics and has no energy to get mp - you need to identify and sponsor people early enough.

I am young and naive because I don't support Ruto Tangatanga need the "tuko pamoja" charade for fear of alienating Mt Kenya. Uhuru is making that so difficult by dragging them screaming and kicking out of his meetings. As you expect they blame Kimemia or Kinyanjui or Waiguru - this time Jezebel get a pass - anyone and anything but Uhuru.

From a mere option - Mt Kenya is now a MUST-WIN for Ruto. No mistake can be allowed. Expect all implausible spins - as chiefs and cops whip people out of meetings - and Kibicho or governor get blamed.

Mps attends a presidential or state function. That has always been a given - even in opposition zones. They are not political meetings. If Uhuru wants to attend political rallies - they should make it very clear - like Uhuru set to attend Kieleweke rally . You're so young & naive you need to go back to 80s and 90s - and deal with these basic stuff.

[Nefertiti]

This scenario is new in the world - people were stopped by Moi from holding their own Kamukunjis. Noone had to be kicked out of Moi meetings with nyahunyo. Likes of Karua walked out on Moi. Tangatanga desperation is new phenomenon.

About history - Ruto is not the first nor last VP to be hanged. It a long list - Jaramogi, Murumbi, Kibaki, Karanja, Saitoti, Kalonzo. Even the statistics don't defy your spin. Only smart but humble Moi and Kibaki made it - Ruto is nothing like them hence his dismal chance.

BBI has solidifed non-Gema around Raila. Ruto no longer even bother with Gusii or Pwani after it fizzled out to one Jumwa or Joash Maang'i. BBI double-edged sword will leave him with Kalenjin and in Mt Kenya vs Uhuru. Even with 100% Gema he has tough luck. Now imagine he has to face Uhuru in Mt Kenya. It a redux of Jubilee 2013 without Uhuru. URP.

Kiunjuri is a non-issue. Same as PK or Karua or Waiguru. Kiunjuri need to run for PORK - or PM - and Ruto maybe go slow and give him space. These Kurias and Nyoros should be praising Kiunjuri as great leader I am surprised am teaching you basics: folks don't follow a follower. He can't follower Ruto all over and attract following. Gema is Uhuru vs Ruto.

You're evidently so young and naive - because there are so many Raila supporters we have seen over the years - but none as young and naive as you're. There are things that are given - stuff we debated and finished in 90s. We are not going to discuss Chiefs  and politics now. It ridiculous.

Mt kenya is not a must win for Ruto. It depend on the scenarios. For 50% - yes. For a re-run - NO.

Now talking of Raila.If NASA remain broken - and Raila doesn't manage to re-built it - then he is even bad position.

Mt kenya will not vote for Raila soon.

So Ruto has to know who he is competing with and under what system. If the status quo remain - his best bet is to stick with Kiunjuri - and slice off huge portion of GEMA - and attempt 50% or a re-run.

If we go parliamentary - then game shift to sponsoring as many MPs as possible - and hoping they win - and then entering coalitions with someone with a 20-30mps. Ruto is like a fish under water in getting Mps. Raila is used to big podium politics and has no energy to get mp - you need to identify and sponsor people early enough.

[RV Pundit]

You cannot purport to teach me politics when you're learning on the go. Kiunjuri and GEMA have a deal they are keen to honour. What worked in 90s don't know now. The deal with Ruto is what GEMA are keen to fulfill and Kiunjuri will fulfill that. He cannot pretend to do a kamikaze run like Moses Kuria run to nowhere.

This scenario is new in the world - people were stopped by Moi from holding their own Kamukunjis. Noone had to be kicked out of Moi meetings with nyahunyo. Likes of Karua walked out on Moi. Tangatanga desperation is new phenomenon.

About history - Ruto is not the first nor last VP to be hanged. It a long list - Jaramogi, Murumbi, Kibaki, Karanja, Saitoti, Kalonzo. Even the statistics don't defy your spin. Only smart but humble Moi and Kibaki made it - Ruto is nothing like them hence his dismal chance.

BBI has solidifed non-Gema around Raila. Ruto no longer even bother with Gusii or Pwani after it fizzled out to one Jumwa or Joash Maang'i. BBI double-edged sword will leave him with Kalenjin and in Mt Kenya vs Uhuru. Even with 100% Gema he has tough luck. Now imagine he has to face Uhuru in Mt Kenya. It a redux of Jubilee 2013 without Uhuru. URP.

Kiunjuri is a non-issue. Same as PK or Karua or Waiguru. Kiunjuri need to run for PORK - or PM - and Ruto maybe go slow and give him space. These Kurias and Nyoros should be praising Kiunjuri as great leader I am surprised am teaching you basics: folks don't follow a follower. He can't follower Ruto all over and attract following. Gema is Uhuru vs Ruto.

You're evidently so young and naive - because there are so many Raila supporters we have seen over the years - but none as young and naive as you're. There are things that are given - stuff we debated and finished in 90s. We are not going to discuss Chiefs  and politics now. It ridiculous.

Mt kenya is not a must win for Ruto. It depend on the scenarios. For 50% - yes. For a re-run - NO.

Now talking of Raila.If NASA remain broken - and Raila doesn't manage to re-built it - then he is even bad position.

Mt kenya will not vote for Raila soon.

So Ruto has to know who he is competing with and under what system. If the status quo remain - his best bet is to stick with Kiunjuri - and slice off huge portion of GEMA - and attempt 50% or a re-run.

If we go parliamentary - then game shift to sponsoring as many MPs as possible - and hoping they win - and then entering coalitions with someone with a 20-30mps. Ruto is like a fish under water in getting Mps. Raila is used to big podium politics and has no energy to get mp - you need to identify and sponsor people early enough.

[Nefertiti]

Those mlolongo MPs are not Gema they are handpicked flowergirls. Just like you been telling us about Ruto imaginary numbers in parliament. Ruto could only raise 11 vs 28 senators to save Waititu. You swiftly change tune to say they had abandoned him.

You are not credible.

You cannot purport to teach me politics when you're learning on the go. Kiunjuri and GEMA have a deal they are keen to honour. What worked in 90s don't know now. The deal with Ruto is what GEMA are keen to fulfill and Kiunjuri will fulfill that. He cannot pretend to do a kamikaze run like Moses Kuria run to nowhere.

[RV Pundit]

Robina,

It's not only the mps but MCAs and people on the ground...that is why Uhuru has failed to deal with this.Its Mt Kenya laity who have totally rejected handshake.

As for credibility track record speak for itself.

You already lost in BBI 1.0 despite frothing for 2yrs about the parliamentary system - and rather than licking your wounds in silently you quickly regrouped like Raila and made us believe it possible to have a referendum in April and be done by June on a BBI 2.0

[Nefertiti]

Which MCAs - the ones who hanged Waititu?

You're not credible: for example is Uhurutopia intact or not? You can't own up to such a plain fact so why should we take you seriously?

[RV Pundit]

It's intact until it is not. I told you we are watching for big events. Not small things. Uhuru seem to have a problem with Mt Kenya leadership abandoning him - not anywhere else where Jubilee are in. The man was given PORK but he has reduced himself to Kikuyu president - speaking in Kikuyu and touring almost exclusively his home area. And Yet he has been totally rejected by the ground .

They abused him until he took off his Africa largest facebook account. NIS have told him the ground is too hostile. Now they are using Chiefs to vet and select people to attend his rallies. This FIRST ONE IN history of kenya politics. Vetting raia in your home turf.

We watch watershed moments like BBI 1.0. Not every article and newspaper report from The-Star or Nation like you do.

We will wait for BBI 2.0 and if your ideas pass - then I will know UhuRuto are now done.

Which MCAs - the ones who hanged Waititu?

You're not credible: for example is Uhurutopia intact or not? You can't own up to such a plain fact so why should we take you seriously?