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Re: BBI 2.0 - BBI taskforce extended for yet another term.
« Reply #60 on: December 21, 2019, 11:44:34 AM »
BBI was formed to fix me, says Ruto
https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2019-12-21-bbi-was-formed-to-fix-me-says-ruto/

From said article,

"The DP further pointed out that he was close to running alongside Raila and Uhuru in 2013 but made a tactical retreat after realising he would emerge third. another delegate said."

From these delegates' reports, it seems Ruto is not as convinced as our Pundit that he has taken over Raila's old constituency (Non-Gema).

:D :D Our "dispassionate" Pundit is Dr Spin. Ruto is so desperate because Raila by default locks him out of non-Gema, and has now booby-trapped Mt Kenya by playing the Uhuru for PM Joker. If only Ruto could tame his greed for posterity...
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Re: BBI 2.0 - BBI taskforce extended for yet another term.
« Reply #61 on: December 21, 2019, 11:51:05 AM »
If Raila-Uhuru teamed up vs Ruto-Kiunjuri or Ruto-Whoever it would be 70-30 as in 2010 or 2002.
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« Reply #62 on: December 21, 2019, 01:18:35 PM »
Even after loosing BBI 1.0 you didn't miss a beat to spin more long tales. Tell you what the constitution at this stage is nearly impossible to ammend.
If Raila-Uhuru teamed up vs Ruto-Kiunjuri or Ruto-Whoever it would be 70-30 as in 2010 or 2002.

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Re: BBI 2.0 - BBI taskforce extended for yet another term.
« Reply #63 on: December 21, 2019, 01:55:50 PM »
At least you concede it just BBI v 1.0  :) - v2 is coming. Kenyans are acclimatized to PM it only a debate of how powerful and other parliamentary details.
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« Reply #64 on: December 21, 2019, 02:01:05 PM »
Dream on. You don't waste 2yrs to produce a fake report :) How will you suddenly come up with new contradictory report. Hope spring eternal.
At least you concede it just BBI v 1.0  :) - v2 is coming. Kenyans are acclimatized to PM it only a debate of how powerful and other parliamentary details.

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Re: BBI 2.0 - BBI taskforce extended for yet another term.
« Reply #65 on: December 22, 2019, 02:06:43 PM »
Pundit even your new hero Ndii doesn't agree with you. He thinks Ruto will see State House from Viusasa. Nor Manyora, Ngunyi - your fellow mythologist :D - name it. Noone sees your boy getting a pass.
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Re: BBI 2.0 - BBI taskforce extended for yet another term.
« Reply #66 on: December 23, 2019, 08:37:19 AM »

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« Reply #67 on: December 23, 2019, 08:39:33 AM »
Pundit even your new hero Ndii doesn't agree with you. He thinks Ruto will see State House from Viusasa. Nor Manyora, Ngunyi - your fellow mythologist :D - name it. Noone sees your boy getting a pass.
Their punditry is slightly better than yours.. obviously  they cannot match my political punditry.They are just blowing hot n cold because their hero Raila is also confused.Ruto is running alone

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Re: BBI 2.0 - BBI taskforce extended for yet another term.
« Reply #70 on: December 24, 2019, 07:23:24 AM »
I am ready for parliamentary system - Ruto
https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2019-12-23-ruto-on-bbi-kenyas-leadership-shouldnt-be-decided-in-boardrooms/
Read btw the lines for crying out loud

I read capitulation. The tyre will meet the road at Uhuru for Exec PM. Will Ruto fly in Mt Kenya as old Raila run circles around him elsewhere?
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Re: BBI 2.0 - BBI taskforce extended for yet another term.
« Reply #71 on: December 24, 2019, 09:39:58 AM »
You believe in fairy tales. Uhuru is going home. BBI ilikwisha hivyo. In fact you're the only still clinging to this Uhuru for exec PM - the Jezebel and crew - have new bandwagon around the hopeless combination Matiangi, Mutua,Kalonzo,Waiguru & handshake team.

I read capitulation. The tyre will meet the road at Uhuru for Exec PM. Will Ruto fly in Mt Kenya as old Raila run circles around him elsewhere?

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Re: BBI 2.0 - BBI taskforce extended for yet another term.
« Reply #72 on: December 27, 2019, 07:13:59 AM »
Pundit you are the only one stuck in Uhurutopia. Your boy is scared of non-existent BBI? His groupie has a new slogan

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Re: BBI 2.0 - BBI taskforce extended for yet another term.
« Reply #73 on: December 27, 2019, 07:24:43 AM »
Pundit could you attempt a properer spin on this one - just Delilah handiwork? :o I doubt the vain Aukot can pass up CoE 2 starring cast.

Aukot to join BBI team
https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/article/2001354487/aukot-ideas-to-be-in-bbi-despite-fall-of-punguza-mzigo


You believe in fairy tales. Uhuru is going home. BBI ilikwisha hivyo. In fact you're the only still clinging to this Uhuru for exec PM - the Jezebel and crew - have new bandwagon around the hopeless combination Matiangi, Mutua,Kalonzo,Waiguru & handshake team.
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Re: BBI 2.0 - BBI taskforce extended for yet another term.
« Reply #74 on: December 27, 2019, 07:44:20 AM »
Pundit and your long tales. You hardly stray from the script - dark forces, deep state, DPP, DCI, Kibicho, Jezebel. At least the La Mada ploy was abit creative in explaining away the incredible. Any update on Ole Itumbi case? they found the gadgets he used to forge the Kobia letter. :)

The trouble with spin - as in most fakeries - is that it sooner than later runs headfast into reality. Kibra comedy for instance was unspinnable - after the phony unity photo op at SH. Now BBI 2 and the Jubilee elections... not sure how mlolongo 2.0 would work out with a hostile machinery :D

Where are the polls Ruto is leading at 60? Still waiting for the link. Even spin requires intelligence.
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Re: BBI 2.0 - BBI taskforce extended for yet another term.
« Reply #75 on: December 27, 2019, 02:19:48 PM »
Dear RV Pundit,

Here's a straw to hang onto 2020. Seeing I ran circles around your theories - vitendawili - throughout the year.

Welcome to 'progressive and focused' Jubilee, Ruto tells Kalonzo
https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2019-12-27-welcome-to-progressive-and-focused-jubilee-ruto-tells-kalonzo/
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Re: BBI 2.0 - BBI taskforce extended for yet another term.
« Reply #76 on: December 29, 2019, 11:35:40 AM »
BBI ilikwisha kitambo. Raila cried for a second bite at it and Uhuru is going to entertain him knowing any constitutional change this late will be impossible. By the time you are finishing with BBI2.0 - Ruto will be already in Statehouse.

Another round of public participation - then another report preparation or bill formulation - then it goes to parliament or referendum ( a long winding process) - this is just Uhuru playing Raila the dumb fool for what he is.

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« Reply #77 on: December 30, 2019, 02:42:31 AM »
In short the Ruto landslide poll was spin. Fiction.

Well, BBI 2.0 and Jubilee elections are the main events in 2020. Both are lethal items against Ruto gameplan. Uhuru is a Raila asset not playing him. He start by enabling Raila run circles around Ruto in non-Gema. As can be seen in Luhya and Kamba. Then he mess Ruto in Mt Kenya and deny him any focus outside the desperation. Your boy is in a very bad place. I am not sure who is more to responsible? - Uhuru treachery, Ruto harebrain, or Raila witchcraft. But the ball is being played firmly in Ruto half of the pitch. Iko chida.

The commentators are saying: Wiliam Ruto is being roundly outplayed by Raila Odinga. You can Google it.
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Re: BBI 2.0 - BBI taskforce extended for yet another term.
« Reply #78 on: December 30, 2019, 03:38:10 AM »
And yet you can't Google opinion poll.Youre just a political neophyte innovating on the go.  https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.the-star.co.ke/amp/news/2019-12-06-66-of-kenyans-unsure-uhuru-will-back-ruto-in-2022-poll/

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« Reply #79 on: December 30, 2019, 11:20:19 AM »
And yet you can't Google opinion poll.Youre just a political neophyte innovating on the go.  https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.the-star.co.ke/amp/news/2019-12-06-66-of-kenyans-unsure-uhuru-will-back-ruto-in-2022-poll/

Well Ruto 40% Raila 16% ... Usemi Survey by "Kantar Limited"? Tim Wolf now works for these guys? Ever heard of them? What other credible poll have they done? That pyrrhic lead.

Anyway I see it this way: if things stay as they are - pure presidential - Ruto win is likely. But if BBI materializes as is shaping up, Raila "wins" as ceremonial president with Uhuru as Exec PM. Majority want parliamentary in that same dodgy survey. 

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"Better educated people tend to be more in favour of potential constitutional changes", the poll report says.
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