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Re: Boris Johnson delivers Brexit deal
« Reply #40 on: December 14, 2019, 10:55:19 PM »
Plato Tories are the same system cloaked as reforms. They are pro- business, low taxes, no safety net. At least Labour are socialists. Misery avers responsibility so the aliens and immigration must be the cause of all problems. You have seen in SA negro lynching negro... for taking away the jobs.

It is an oxymoron that rednecks are crowning demagogues everywhere. Buying smoke.
I think we are in a very real crisis fueled by only 30% of the world population.
Yes he got a majority but bringing all parties to accept his policy will be a challenge.
Same thing with Trump. He can claim all dictatorship but end up dragging the country into social crisis.

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Re: Boris Johnson delivers Brexit deal
« Reply #41 on: December 15, 2019, 12:42:44 PM »
Plato Tories are the same system cloaked as reforms. They are pro- business, low taxes, no safety net. At least Labour are socialists. Misery avers responsibility so the aliens and immigration must be the cause of all problems. You have seen in SA negro lynching negro... for taking away the jobs.

It is an oxymoron that rednecks are crowning demagogues everywhere. Buying smoke.
I think we are in a very real crisis fueled by only 30% of the world population.
Yes he got a majority but bringing all parties to accept his policy will be a challenge.
Same thing with Trump. He can claim all dictatorship but end up dragging the country into social crisis.

I don't see Boris as a Trumpian demagogue but very smart and talented. He may have the same racist-sexist gaffes but he is no science denier. Mayor Boris ran London rather well and still holds down the metropolitan Uxbridge and Ruislip liberal borough easy for a conservative. Combined with Jeremy Corbyn's abhorrent record of anti-patriotic canoodling with the IRA secessionists, silence over Scottish independence, lucklustre anti-Brexit campaign, his praise for Hamas. I think the left's antisemitism broke the camel's back.

Jeremy's dismality has aided Boris. Now the Brits will be carbon-free by 2050, Corbyn-free by Christmas  :)

But after Thatcher and Blair this is just a minor landslide. Past Brexit Boris will struggle to address the economy of migrants and the EU single market. Britain like the US is fueled by globalism.
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Re: Boris Johnson delivers Brexit deal
« Reply #42 on: December 15, 2019, 01:02:58 PM »
We have to accept and internalise that the people who are different from us; some whom we hate and loathe do things and are dear to many- too many.
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Re: Boris Johnson delivers Brexit deal
« Reply #43 on: December 15, 2019, 01:04:24 PM »
How is uk going to be carbon free by 2050? Care to share data and details on this. Boris is good for business. UK will still be in EU global market but with less regulations. What Torries want is to do business the wild west way with fewer rules and contribution to the welfare of state. Rednecks know even with liberals this Neoliberalism won't take care of them but most rural poor live a very basic life so they do not state support like their counter parts in urban areas. An Appalachian redneck can easily survive on 15k income ..so they can vote for what they emotionally feel and not what benefits his or her lot most. Liberals fail recognize this and talk like deplorables are just idiots. No they are just people who have chosen a lifestyle that doesn't fit the neoliberal ideology..

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Re: Boris Johnson delivers Brexit deal
« Reply #44 on: December 15, 2019, 01:43:57 PM »
2050 is a Paris Accord target. For the OECD and China. So all parties have various plans and mandates to phase out combustion engines, etc. It's on the Tory manifesto but not a validated industrial plan. That's not such a stretch Plato - Germany for instance is on track to shut down all nuclear plants in lieu of wind and solar.

True about liberal mishandling of rednecks. But I meant the rednecks chose emotional rection over real self interest. They don't want to survive on 15k - they wrongly blame their fate on aliens. They have irrational fear of being outbred by immigrants so they vote Trump or Boris. Liberal millennials and hippies are smart to vote socialist. Welfare can alleviate redneck poverty. Shutting down immigration and protectionism cannot.
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Re: Boris Johnson delivers Brexit deal
« Reply #45 on: December 15, 2019, 02:16:10 PM »
Paris accord is nonsense. Just kicking the can down the road. You think China has any intenations of being carbon free? Or industrialized countries

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Re: Boris Johnson delivers Brexit deal
« Reply #46 on: December 15, 2019, 02:22:04 PM »
2050 is a Paris Accord target. For the OECD and China. So all parties have various plans and mandates to phase out combustion engines, etc. It's on the Tory manifesto but not a validated industrial plan. That's not such a stretch Plato - Germany for instance is on track to shut down all nuclear plants in lieu of wind and solar.

True about liberal mishandling of rednecks. But I meant the rednecks chose emotional rection over real self interest. They don't want to survive on 15k - they wrongly blame their fate on aliens. They have irrational fear of being outbred by immigrants so they vote Trump or Boris. Liberal millennials and hippies are smart to vote socialist. Welfare can alleviate redneck poverty. Shutting down immigration and protectionism cannot.
The redneck is alive to these facts and understands that there is no place on the table in a neoliberal world. So they just to screw Everyone else because they are already screwed. Rednecks do not want welfare they want a share shake when they sell their blue collar labor. They know Torriez or liberals are not willing to pay for this so why not just play the two sides against each other. I hate that everyone thinks rednecks are just morons. They are just not sophisticated gaslighters

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Re: Boris Johnson delivers Brexit deal
« Reply #47 on: December 15, 2019, 03:23:51 PM »
I guess Trump wins 2020 as right wing (racist) take over western world.

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Re: Boris Johnson delivers Brexit deal
« Reply #48 on: December 15, 2019, 03:37:21 PM »
I guess Trump wins 2020 as right wing (racist) take over western world.

Trump will win a second term the only thing that would stop him is a bad economy.

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Re: Boris Johnson delivers Brexit deal
« Reply #49 on: December 15, 2019, 08:29:11 PM »
I guess Trump wins 2020 as right wing (racist) take over western world.

Trump will win a second term the only thing that would stop him is a bad economy.

Trump will win but a 20%/yr federal increase in spending will definitely leave the economy worse off than under Bush. This time there is no fall back like interest rate cuts etc. There  is  a crisis on the way fueled by too much debt..

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Re: Boris Johnson delivers Brexit deal
« Reply #50 on: December 15, 2019, 10:12:23 PM »
Paris accord is nonsense. Just kicking the can down the road. You think China has any intenations of being carbon free? Or industrialized countries

Yup - I don't  have to take Xi's word, there is empirical progress of green power farms all over the Mainland industrial belt. Shenzhen is literally a green hub. There are new anti-carbon laws and policies from the Party. Anti-fossil decrees in most cities. Global warming is real we see on the ice caps melting. You posted it yourself in a thread or two. It's self-preservation not politics.

No Plato, the Paris Accord is not nonsense. The world is burning down from the Mojave, the Amazon to Aussie.
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Re: Boris Johnson delivers Brexit deal
« Reply #51 on: December 15, 2019, 10:46:58 PM »
Paris accord is nonsense. Just kicking the can down the road. You think China has any intenations of being carbon free? Or industrialized countries

Yup - I don't  have to take Xi's word, there is empirical progress of green power farms all over the Mainland industrial belt. Shenzhen is literally a green hub. There are new anti-carbon laws and policies from the Party. Anti-fossil decrees in most cities. Global warming is real we see on the ice caps melting. You posted it yourself in a thread or two. It's self-preservation not politics.

No Plato, the Paris Accord is not nonsense. The world is burning down from the Mojave, the Amazon to Aussie.

Plato is of the opinion that Paris accord has become like other treaties signed by previous administrations. DEAD!!! USA under republicans is no longer committed to world order, rather world disorder. EU is breaking apart and China is more interested in selling

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Re: Boris Johnson delivers Brexit deal
« Reply #52 on: December 15, 2019, 11:39:21 PM »
Paris accord is nonsense. Just kicking the can down the road. You think China has any intenations of being carbon free? Or industrialized countries

Yup - I don't  have to take Xi's word, there is empirical progress of green power farms all over the Mainland industrial belt. Shenzhen is literally a green hub. There are new anti-carbon laws and policies from the Party. Anti-fossil decrees in most cities. Global warming is real we see on the ice caps melting. You posted it yourself in a thread or two. It's self-preservation not politics.

No Plato, the Paris Accord is not nonsense. The world is burning down from the Mojave, the Amazon to Aussie.

Plato is of the opinion that Paris accord has become like other treaties signed by previous administrations. DEAD!!! USA under republicans is no longer committed to world order, rather world disorder. EU is breaking apart and China is more interested in selling

The evidence doesn't agree. They cannot play politics with climate change as they do Syria. Mother Nature is a mean cold- hearted bitch. The US will resume Obama-era strides as soon as the Dotard exits. Only Aussie are not taking it seriously and see the wild heat and fires disparage them.
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Re: Boris Johnson delivers Brexit deal
« Reply #53 on: December 16, 2019, 07:26:40 AM »
Paris accord is nonsense. Just kicking the can down the road. You think China has any intenations of being carbon free? Or industrialized countries

Yup - I don't  have to take Xi's word, there is empirical progress of green power farms all over the Mainland industrial belt. Shenzhen is literally a green hub. There are new anti-carbon laws and policies from the Party. Anti-fossil decrees in most cities. Global warming is real we see on the ice caps melting. You posted it yourself in a thread or two. It's self-preservation not politics.

No Plato, the Paris Accord is not nonsense. The world is burning down from the Mojave, the Amazon to Aussie.

Plato is of the opinion that Paris accord has become like other treaties signed by previous administrations. DEAD!!! USA under republicans is no longer committed to world order, rather world disorder. EU is breaking apart and China is more interested in selling

The evidence doesn't agree. They cannot play politics with climate change as they do Syria. Mother Nature is a mean cold- hearted bitch. The US will resume Obama-era strides as soon as the Dotard exits. Only Aussie are not taking it seriously and see the wild heat and fires disparage them.

I used to think Americans are intelligent, until Trump got elected!!
The guy makes his policy as the day goes, so nobody knows what is next.
Follows no established policy or adheres to any law.
Its a downward spiral that may endanger humanity as a whole. He makes roadside decisions without consulting others, thinking he has the best mind.

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Re: Boris Johnson delivers Brexit deal
« Reply #54 on: December 16, 2019, 07:32:33 AM »
Yes the Trump knee-jerk anti-Othordoxy may please his base for a few years but will haunt the US decades to come.
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Re: Boris Johnson delivers Brexit deal
« Reply #55 on: December 16, 2019, 12:20:02 PM »
The redneck is alive to these facts and understands that there is no place on the table in a neoliberal world. So they just to screw Everyone else because they are already screwed. Rednecks do not want welfare they want a share shake when they sell their blue collar labor. They know Torriez or liberals are not willing to pay for this so why not just play the two sides against each other. I hate that everyone thinks rednecks are just morons. They are just not sophisticated gaslighters

Everyone does not think rednecks are morons. Just the liberal elite. Rednecks have a gullible pride clinging to an antiquated insular world. Globalism has bigger pros than cons for advanced market economies and it is not a shame to accept welfare. It is an economic solution not alms. Take the EU single market for instance: you get a major pie but have to accept free movement and compete with Polish penny casuals. The bigger picture is that single market taxes pay for welfare and more. But the rednecks rather chop the nose to spite the face.
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Re: Boris Johnson delivers Brexit deal
« Reply #56 on: December 19, 2019, 03:04:14 AM »
Tony Blair's brutal 20-20 shakedown of Corbyn failures

"The Labor Manifesto was over 100 pages of wish list. Any fool can promise everything for free. But the people weren't fooled. They know life isn't like that. And this loading in of free broadband run by government at the last moment was the final confirmation of incredibility.

"So, this is politics. I understand Mrs Johnson and [Dominic] Cummings had a strategy for victory where we had one for defeat. And I noted the corkiness of the Johnson visit to [former Blair seat] Sedgefield to rub salt in the wound.

"But I would like to see their strategic brilliance measured against a team other than one whose Striker was directionally oblivious; its Midfield comatose; the Defence absent in the stand chatting to a small portion of the fans; and its Goalkeeper behind the net retweeting a clip of his one save in a 9-Nil thrashing.

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Re: Boris Johnson delivers Brexit deal
« Reply #57 on: December 22, 2019, 06:05:32 AM »
The redneck is alive to these facts and understands that there is no place on the table in a neoliberal world. So they just to screw Everyone else because they are already screwed. Rednecks do not want welfare they want a share shake when they sell their blue collar labor. They know Torriez or liberals are not willing to pay for this so why not just play the two sides against each other. I hate that everyone thinks rednecks are just morons. They are just not sophisticated gaslighters

Everyone does not think rednecks are morons. Just the liberal elite. Rednecks have a gullible pride clinging to an antiquated insular world. Globalism has bigger pros than cons for advanced market economies and it is not a shame to accept welfare. It is an economic solution not alms. Take the EU single market for instance: you get a major pie but have to accept free movement and compete with Polish penny casuals. The bigger picture is that single market taxes pay for welfare and more. But the rednecks rather chop the nose to spite the face.

Unfortunately these people think that the whole world should revolve around them. Meanwhile, China will overtake USA in GDP in less that 20yrs. I would rather have the Shrewdness if the Chinese that Racism that is inbuilt into the White Nationalism rants.
BTW the tax cuts were supposed to give power to more whites because color people are too poor to own much. Britain is going the same way.

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Re: Boris Johnson delivers Brexit deal
« Reply #58 on: December 22, 2019, 01:55:33 PM »
Parker right-left politics is a pendulum. The paradox in the right perspective is that the aliens overrunning them have not such capacity. They are poor Africans, Latinos and Arabs. The real threat is Nature - and maybe the Chinese - that are roundly ignored.

I pride myself an independent but I would rather liberalism. Conservative is denialism in odious form.
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« Reply #59 on: December 22, 2019, 02:00:26 PM »
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