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Re: Maendeleo jap jap Mutua - posted this! Census will tell us truth
« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2019, 06:40:01 AM »
Mutua is king of abubuwasi type of PR

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Re: Maendeleo jap jap Mutua - posted this! Census will tell us truth
« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2019, 07:09:28 AM »
I think we shall see in census results if these claims are true or false

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Re: Maendeleo jap jap Mutua - posted this! Census will tell us truth
« Reply #3 on: August 15, 2019, 07:23:27 AM »
I think we shall see in census results if these claims are true or false
Why do you think mutua cannot bribe census clerks to report what he wants. With devolution miney at stake i do not see why numbers won't fudged if they haven't been already. If i was ruto i would pay to inflate kale census

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Re: Maendeleo jap jap Mutua - posted this! Census will tell us truth
« Reply #4 on: August 15, 2019, 07:27:49 AM »
Not possible to do that in any scale without being known

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Re: Maendeleo jap jap Mutua - posted this! Census will tell us truth
« Reply #5 on: August 15, 2019, 03:43:49 PM »
Mutua is king of abubuwasi type of PR

He is a comedian indeed.  He will open a pit latrine like he was commissioning the three gorges dam.
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Re: Maendeleo jap jap Mutua - posted this! Census will tell us truth
« Reply #6 on: August 15, 2019, 09:04:16 PM »
Give the devil his due. He won a re-election running against the political grain. I think he delivered. Kenyans have opportunity to tell us whether they have water a week times..and we will compare Machakos - pre-devolution and post-devolution.

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Re: Maendeleo jap jap Mutua - posted this! Census will tell us truth
« Reply #7 on: August 15, 2019, 09:27:59 PM »
I think we shall see in census results if these claims are true or false

Census can easily be cooked for 30 pieces. But even half of these stuff would be a good achievement. ASAL folks really suffer - they call the green slopes of Mt Kenya "Canaan".
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Re: Maendeleo jap jap Mutua - posted this! Census will tell us truth
« Reply #8 on: August 15, 2019, 09:33:00 PM »
Ohoo please cooking Census data on water or toilets? Election are rigged, census are rigged. This cynicism is too much. Census cost 18B - to be able to rig that - you need to spend a lot of money - on a lot of enumerators.
Census can easily be cooked for 30 pieces. But even half of these stuff would be a good achievement. ASAL folks really suffer - they call the green slopes of Mt Kenya "Canaan".

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Re: Maendeleo jap jap Mutua - posted this! Census will tell us truth
« Reply #9 on: August 15, 2019, 09:33:53 PM »
Mutua if you ignore the hubris and pomposity is a bar raiser - so idiots like Sonko don't brag about merely clearing garbage. Sonko should be talking about subway or trumps to decongest traffic and slum upgrades. Instead the full is singing Uhuru Tena. Mutua deserves some recognition - there was that county peer review - or something about benchmarking and ranking county devolutional performance. Such an independent assessment would be better than this self aggrandizement.
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Re: Maendeleo jap jap Mutua - posted this! Census will tell us truth
« Reply #10 on: August 15, 2019, 09:36:52 PM »
But Wiper MCAs, MPS and Senators would naturally be ought there bring the contrarian opionion. Mutua built a tarmac road that is real - you can go touch it. He has done all these water projects. Yes he has overpromised - but I'd rather a leader that aim for the sun - and reaches the moon - than an idiot who promises the sky - and can't even get to Mt Kenya peak.

Africa need more Mutuas..more Bitange Ndemos..and less Ndiis. We need dreamers. We need visionaries. We need people who can imagine a different future. We don't need negativity, cynicism and self-defeatist attitude.

We already know our situation is very dire...so repeating it like Dr DOOM NDII is waste of time. Africans are looking for the few bright sparks that can inspire them to dream a different future.

Mutua if you ignore the hubris and pomposity is a bar raiser - so idiots like Sonko don't brag about merely clearing garbage. Sonko should be talking about subway or trumps to decongest traffic and slum upgrades. Instead the full is singing Uhuru Tena. Mutua deserves some recognition - there was that county peer review - or something about benchmarking and ranking county devolutional performance. Such an independent assessment would be better than this self aggrandizement.

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Re: Maendeleo jap jap Mutua - posted this! Census will tell us truth
« Reply #11 on: August 15, 2019, 09:48:51 PM »
Gee that's not what I mean.. your reaction says something. I know Kikuyus wrongly cried rigging or exaggeration of NEP headcount in census 2009 and boundary review 2012. Ephraim Mainas stuck in 1990 while their women don't reproduce as much. But Mutua is a real showman - almost delusional - can pull stops for imaginary greatness. There!

Ohoo please cooking Census data on water or toilets? Election are rigged, census are rigged. This cynicism is too much. Census cost 18B - to be able to rig that - you need to spend a lot of money - on a lot of enumerators.
Census can easily be cooked for 30 pieces. But even half of these stuff would be a good achievement. ASAL folks really suffer - they call the green slopes of Mt Kenya "Canaan".
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Re: Maendeleo jap jap Mutua - posted this! Census will tell us truth
« Reply #12 on: August 15, 2019, 09:52:12 PM »
Hear hear.. it's you that whines about graft war sijui Ruto anaonewa. Kichwa said something about your ideological somersault - from machiavellian to activist in  a jiffy. BBI inakuja - govt project - utalia rigging hapa.

But Wiper MCAs, MPS and Senators would naturally be ought there bring the contrarian opionion. Mutua built a tarmac road that is real - you can go touch it. He has done all these water projects. Yes he has overpromised - but I'd rather a leader that aim for the sun - and reaches the moon - than an idiot who promises the sky - and can't even get to Mt Kenya peak.

Africa need more Mutuas..more Bitange Ndemos..and less Ndiis. We need dreamers. We need visionaries. We need people who can imagine a different future. We don't need negativity, cynicism and self-defeatist attitude.

We already know our situation is very dire...so repeating it like Dr DOOM NDII is waste of time. Africans are looking for the few bright sparks that can inspire them to dream a different future.

Mutua if you ignore the hubris and pomposity is a bar raiser - so idiots like Sonko don't brag about merely clearing garbage. Sonko should be talking about subway or trumps to decongest traffic and slum upgrades. Instead the full is singing Uhuru Tena. Mutua deserves some recognition - there was that county peer review - or something about benchmarking and ranking county devolutional performance. Such an independent assessment would be better than this self aggrandizement.
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Re: Maendeleo jap jap Mutua - posted this! Census will tell us truth
« Reply #13 on: August 15, 2019, 10:09:39 PM »
I say something based on evidence. Not hunches. If elections will be rigged - it will be obvious.But I am not going to shout elections will be rigged or census will be rigged. Give it time.

Uhuru has to charge Matiangi for Ruaraka for me to believe he is serious about graft.

Hear hear.. it's you that whines about graft war sijui Ruto anaonewa. Kichwa said something about your ideological somersault - from machiavellian to activist in  a jiffy. BBI inakuja - govt project - utalia rigging hapa.

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« Reply #14 on: August 15, 2019, 10:20:54 PM »
Well - you and me both - I don't fall for Babu or any hat tricks of brinkmanship. Mine are solid ideas on development - not your hero worship of Jubilee and Ruto's imaginary greatness. Opposing Ruto or questioning GoK numbers is not negativity - it's debate - donge?

I say something based on evidence. Not hunches. If elections will be rigged - it will be obvious.But I am not going to shout elections will be rigged or census will be rigged. Give it time.

Uhuru has to charge Matiangi for Ruaraka for me to believe he is serious about graft.

Hear hear.. it's you that whines about graft war sijui Ruto anaonewa. Kichwa said something about your ideological somersault - from machiavellian to activist in  a jiffy. BBI inakuja - govt project - utalia rigging hapa.
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Re: Maendeleo jap jap Mutua - posted this! Census will tell us truth
« Reply #15 on: August 15, 2019, 10:23:20 PM »
Mr Maendeleo "jab jab" must be missing the bottle - these tempers are neurotic - missing kumi kumi and such hard liquor.
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« Reply #16 on: August 15, 2019, 10:27:20 PM »
I support Jubilee based on evidence..that they are the best administration so far....and I say as much...and provide the source of data. We have differed severally with HK - who also tries to be fact-based. You're just an emotional fish out of water.
Well - you and me both - I don't fall for Babu or any hat tricks of brinkmanship. Mine are solid ideas on development - not your hero worship of Jubilee and Ruto's imaginary greatness. Opposing Ruto or questioning GoK numbers is not negativity - it's debate - donge?

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« Reply #17 on: August 15, 2019, 10:27:51 PM »
And who says he is serious? It is you who says this - stuck in Uhurutopia - demanding Uhuru endorsement or else. Then you accuse Babu of waiting to be endorsed :o


I said it




I say something based on evidence. Not hunches. If elections will be rigged - it will be obvious.But I am not going to shout elections will be rigged or census will be rigged. Give it time.

Uhuru has to charge Matiangi for Ruaraka for me to believe he is serious about graft.

Hear hear.. it's you that whines about graft war sijui Ruto anaonewa. Kichwa said something about your ideological somersault - from machiavellian to activist in  a jiffy. BBI inakuja - govt project - utalia rigging hapa.
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« Reply #18 on: August 15, 2019, 10:32:45 PM »
You made the claim a few minutes ago "it's you that whines about graft war sijui Ruto anaonewa". EACC have finalize Ruaraka file but we haven't seen the arrest. High court has already ruled that lots of billions were paid out illegally. We need the former AG, Matiangi and Prof Kipsang out in court defending themselves. That is litmus test for Uhuru. Kibaki had his moment when Kiraitu & Murungaru were fingered - with - Mwiraria - in Angloleasing - and he failed.

I am not sure why you're being emotional and all touchy - this was about Mutua.

You do not want to wait for Census data....to tell us the more than 30 indicators...on Machakos welfare? I mean you've got to be a genius to rig a census including all the "irrelevant" data about toilets, water, chicken...

And who says he is serious? It is you who says this - stuck in Uhurutopia - expecting Uhuru endorsement. Then you accuse Babu of waiting to be endorsed :o


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I say something based on evidence. Not hunches. If elections will be rigged - it will be obvious.But I am not going to shout elections will be rigged or census will be rigged. Give it time.

Uhuru has to charge Matiangi for Ruaraka for me to believe he is serious about graft.

Hear hear.. it's you that whines about graft war sijui Ruto anaonewa. Kichwa said something about your ideological somersault - from machiavellian to activist in  a jiffy. BBI inakuja - govt project - utalia rigging hapa.

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Re: Maendeleo jap jap Mutua - posted this! Census will tell us truth
« Reply #19 on: August 16, 2019, 01:29:20 AM »
Pundit you can now claim to know English - and twist my words. Basic grammar - answer this one - Ruto demands endorsement or else he will behead madoa doa. Babu courts Uhuru bila threats. Who is more desperate for endorsement?

Of course you are wrong about Ruaka - court ruled MoE was mislead by NLC. The culprit is Swazuri - already soiled hands - Matiang'i is free as a bird. I know Matiang'i is a serious upstart who Ruto views as a threat, but we all here at nipate know it's a selective war on corruption. I mean, is Ruto no longer smart? He cannot attack Matiang'i for the same reason he avoids Tobiko & Maa - same as Noordin Haji & Somali - same as Uhuru & Gema... see? Checkmate.
 
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