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Economy Watch - NSE, public expenditure cuts
« on: September 18, 2018, 04:52:44 PM »
NSE sheds 'paper wealth' worth half a trillion - sijui forex, sijui poor performance, interest rates

https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/news/NSE-sheds-Sh568bn-investor-wealth/539546-4765070-dou0c0/index.html

In March Rotich projects 84 billion in public expenditure cuts
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/economy/Rotich-seeks-national-budget-cut-on-Sh84bn-revenue-shortfall/3946234-4332496-lba5y8/index.html

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Mr Rotich says the total expenditure for the fiscal year starting July 2019 will drop to 23.2 per cent of the gross domestic product compared to 26.3 per cent in the current financial year ending in June 2019.

https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/news/Rotich-tightens-grip-spending-runaway-debt/539546-4763216-ptce8j/index.html

Still envisions magical growth due to 'private investor confidence' and good rainfall
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/economy/Treasury-sees-growth-hitting-sevenyear-high/3946234-4765542-120p4tsz/index.html
Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one ~ Thomas Paine

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Re: Economy Watch - NSE, public expenditure cuts
« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2018, 05:45:23 PM »
We are all about finishing the country with uhuru  ops I meant finishing the journey with uhuru. Sasa kila mtu apambane na hali yake. Bora uhai

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Re: Economy Watch - NSE, public expenditure cuts
« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2018, 10:22:46 PM »

Still envisions magical growth due to 'private investor confidence' and good rainfall
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/economy/Treasury-sees-growth-hitting-sevenyear-high/3946234-4765542-120p4tsz/index.html
It'd be hilariously if it wasn't so sad. What private sector confidence? For the last 3yrs the private sector confidence has been waning. As matter of fact the growth has been led by public spending not private sector. Well now government is slashing budgets and raising taxes. How that can translate into increased economic growth only Rotich and jubilee government can conjure up. 

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Re: Economy Watch - NSE, public expenditure cuts
« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2018, 10:02:21 AM »
Rains alone will contribute to 1% growth - public investment (continued SGR+LAMU+all roads) will add another 1-2% - so there is lot of solid growth happening this year. Gov expenditure will increase compared to last year. Tourism is up. There is no election hang-over to delay investments. So this year the economy will grow 6%.
It'd be hilariously if it wasn't so sad. What private sector confidence? For the last 3yrs the private sector confidence has been waning. As matter of fact the growth has been led by public spending not private sector. Well now government is slashing budgets and raising taxes. How that can translate into increased economic growth only Rotich and jubilee government can conjure up. 

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Re: Economy Watch - NSE, public expenditure cuts
« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2018, 10:13:24 AM »
We have reached that stage where economic growth is premised on rain (even the Bukusu rainmakers from our neck of the hood would laugh you out of town).
Celebratory violence: 2017 crime invented to justify killings to prevent Raila from becoming PORK. http://www.nipate.com/download/file.php?id=4244

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Re: Economy Watch - NSE, public expenditure cuts
« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2018, 10:24:42 AM »
We have never reached an economic stage where agriculture is not the main sector of our economy. Ours remain basically an agrarian economy with agriculture stubbornly at 25% of GDP and an agri as industry maybe at 40-50% (agro-processing & value addition) - and still accounting for nearly 70% of the labor force.

And all than mostly rain-fed agriculture.

We have reached that stage where economic growth is premised on rain (even the Bukusu rainmakers from our neck of the hood would laugh you out of town).

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Re: Economy Watch - NSE, public expenditure cuts
« Reply #6 on: September 19, 2018, 10:37:58 AM »
We have never reached an economic stage where agriculture is not the main sector of our economy. Ours remain basically an agrarian economy with agriculture stubbornly at 25% of GDP and an agri as industry maybe at 40-50% (agro-processing & value addition) - and still accounting for nearly 70% of the labor force.

And all than mostly rain-fed agriculture.

We have reached that stage where economic growth is premised on rain (even the Bukusu rainmakers from our neck of the hood would laugh you out of town).
More like a drought-fed, leased land economic blueprint. http://www.theeastafrican.co.ke/business/Drought-politics-push-economies-to-modest-growth/2560-4573196-1219ebu/index.htmlhttp://www.theeastafrican.co.ke/news/ea/Kenya-sets-aside-fund-for-drought-and-floods/4552908-4598736-bp4c28z/index.html
Celebratory violence: 2017 crime invented to justify killings to prevent Raila from becoming PORK. http://www.nipate.com/download/file.php?id=4244

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Re: Economy Watch - NSE, public expenditure cuts
« Reply #7 on: September 20, 2018, 09:01:13 AM »
Rains alone will contribute to 1% growth - public investment (continued SGR+LAMU+all roads) will add another 1-2% - so there is lot of solid growth happening this year. Gov expenditure will increase compared to last year. Tourism is up. There is no election hang-over to delay investments. So this year the economy will grow 6%.
It'd be hilariously if it wasn't so sad. What private sector confidence? For the last 3yrs the private sector confidence has been waning. As matter of fact the growth has been led by public spending not private sector. Well now government is slashing budgets and raising taxes. How that can translate into increased economic growth only Rotich and jubilee government can conjure up. 
With all the headwinds the economy will grow by 6%? How'll government spend more when clearly most of gov. revenue is being scooped up by debt repayment and recurrent expenses? Development budget is being slashed https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/economy/counties-hit-hard-by-Sh55bn-budget-cut/3946234-4766302-cpbhg0z/index.html . Agriculture will marginally expand but can't make up for manufacturing,real estate, trade and services downturns. Tourism will do well due to increased security and cheap KES.  To get about 6% growth the PMI index should be about 60 not 55 https://tradingeconomics.com/kenya/manufacturing-pmi . I'll bet next PMI will be lower than 55.

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Re: Economy Watch - NSE, public expenditure cuts
« Reply #8 on: September 20, 2018, 10:15:17 AM »
Maybe 2019 growth will ease but if we are talking 2018 - we are already on last Q technically - and so far I think Q1, Q2 and even Q3 data are solid and above 5% of 2017. Most counties have gone slow but majority have dealt with huge pending bills which last governors had accrued. Yes manufacturing is in trouble - and so is real estate - but I think for both it's a lull before the BIG 4 storm. Real estate will pick up next year once this budget is passed and gov begin on massive housing construction.

I think for now the gov has basically hit the tax limit. It need to re-start privatization and that start with replacing Rotich with someone like Kimunya who knows how to sell stuff. The next budget should be heavy on gov selling National Oil, Safaricom and many of big shares that can generate serious cash for development.

For a long time our private sector has been the only engine for growth - we cannot extinguish the public sector investment now - we need both moving - and as far as private sector goes - credit squeeze is the mainly problem that gov has to figure out.

With all the headwinds the economy will grow by 6%? How'll government spend more when clearly most of gov. revenue is being scooped up by debt repayment and recurrent expenses? Development budget is being slashed https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/economy/counties-hit-hard-by-Sh55bn-budget-cut/3946234-4766302-cpbhg0z/index.html . Agriculture will marginally expand but can't make up for manufacturing,real estate, trade and services downturns. Tourism will do well due to increased security and cheap KES.  To get about 6% growth the PMI index should be about 60 not 55 https://tradingeconomics.com/kenya/manufacturing-pmi . I'll bet next PMI will be lower than 55.

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Re: Economy Watch - NSE, public expenditure cuts
« Reply #9 on: September 24, 2018, 12:32:32 PM »
Rotich needs to sell fast if not tomorrow unless Uhuru and Ruto want to buy once they go junk.
 
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Investors at the Nairobi Securities Exchange lost Sh179 billion last week as the impact of foreign investor outflows hit frontier and emerging markets at a time of uncertainty around new tax measures.

The IMF link to NSE decline is not making sense. Personally,  I have two guys who have been telling me off by 'economic doing well' sell off KENGEN, KCB and Centum to pay fees this month 8) 8)
Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one ~ Thomas Paine