Uhuru Kenyatta Vs Bill Ruto

[RV Pundit]

The head of police last I checked was Boinett and I think you guys really under-estimate the hatred of kikuyus all over kenya. In 2007 - police men (non-gema) - were letting warriors have a go - and pretending to be stuck - because of road blocks & all that.You cannot contain warriors . Ruto has been trying to contain pokot raiders but it just not happening . Kalenjin invinted guerrilla war-fare that is why some 1K nandi warriors held the Brits for 10yrs in 1900. You're talking about warriors who will be attacking solely at mid-night and retreating day-time. You don't understand the kalenjin war-infrastructure.In 92 - Kalenjin were attacking all big tribes at once - save for maasai - until you start rigorously training your youths to be ready for war -- there is no way you can match Kalenjin standing army - ready for deployment at sound of war cry.

Ruto now enjoys all the backing of warrior tribes of kenya - from kamatusa to somalis - so you start war and you'll lose so badly. Just concentrate on planting warus. Uhuru mungiki did not last a day in Molo. They retreated to Nakuru and it became too hot - Kibaki had to call Kenya Army in Lanet. He knows the limit of Munguki.

You can play around with Raila & his bunch of cowards..but not RV. The day you'll hear one RV go to national radio or tv claiming his life is in danger that will be a new day. Kalenjin are brought to be stoic warriors.

Rv pundit,
Gema are not idiots they are containing your people slowly.uhuru is going to buikding several paramilitary instslliations in rv..if your yoiuth start a war they will suffer tremendously. Uhuru is not kibaki..you guys have never seen a maniac uhuru. You will see him. Let ruto take care. All I know is those central mps challenging uhuru are dead. They are dead literally..

[Kadudu]

Pundit, you may threaten the Kikuyu but the rest of Kenya has no liability with Ruto. Only the Kikuyu are vulnerable. The rest do not care about RV wars. Do not count the Somali in your army. They have invested everywhere in the country and will not look for war with other kabilas. In 2007 the Kalejin could count on the support of most of the other Kenyan ethnic groups. Come 2022 might not be the same case. Kalejins are only present in RV. Any other part of Kenya their number is negligible.

[hk]

GEMA need to look forward - not backward - otherwise right now there is youth bulge in RV & people haven't adjsusted to reduced land sizes that can longer support kind of "large" scale lazy farming they are accosted to..and would make 2007 pev look like walk in the park - if they saw an opportunity to loot.

The biggest revolt if there's one will come from GEMA against uhuru. We also need to appreciate that urbanization has to occur driven by increased farming productivity. Even young RVs would rather move to the city than engage in farming. There are some ambitious young politician from GEMA who are looking forward and can sense that they'd be influential in Ruto's government. This people are ready to defy uhuru. Also its clear alot of money in RV interior owned by GEMA was moved in Nakuru, one of the reason why Nakuru is most likely the 3rd largest city in Kenya. No one wants to fight the least of all kikuyus, GEMA biggest concern is the economy. This is where uhuru has performed dismally and now groping in the dark to come up with a semblance of a legacy with 4 agenda. Housing I am sure uhuru's companies CMAX,KOTO and clay works will make out like bandits. So basically uhuru is more vulnerable than Ruto in corruption.

[Kichwa]

GEMA need to look forward - not backward - otherwise right now there is youth bulge in RV & people haven't adjsusted to reduced land sizes that can longer support kind of "large" scale lazy farming they are accosted to..and would make 2007 pev look like walk in the park - if they saw an opportunity to loot.

The biggest revolt if there's one will come from GEMA against uhuru. We also need to appreciate that urbanization has to occur driven by increased farming productivity. Even young RVs would rather move to the city than engage in farming. There are some ambitious young politician from GEMA who are looking forward and can sense that they'd be influential in Ruto's government. This people are ready to defy uhuru. Also its clear alot of money in RV interior owned by GEMA was moved in Nakuru, one of the reason why Nakuru is most likely the 3rd largest city in Kenya. No one wants to fight the least of all kikuyus, GEMA biggest concern is the economy. This is where uhuru has performed dismally and now groping in the dark to come up with a semblance of a legacy with 4 agenda. Housing I am sure uhuru's companies CMAX,KOTO and clay works will make out like bandits. So basically uhuru is more vulnerable than Ruto in corruption.

[Globalcitizen12]

Hk clay works was owned by njenga karume..uhuru and ruto must be judged as a couple..nothing more nothing less..ruto is suffering the curse of vicd presidents

[hk]

Hk clay works was owned by njenga karume..uhuru and ruto must be judged as a couple..nothing more nothing less..ruto is suffering the curse of vicd presidents

Clay works wasn't owned by Njenga but Gema group that's the one next on your left after Githurai heading to nairobi. Kenya clayworks products manson hart is owned by kenyattas. Its opposite brookside dairy and peponi schools.

[RV Pundit]

Let me break it down for you. After Uhuru vanguished Raila - he obviously think he deserve some recognition as the top dog who tamed/killed Raila - while Ruto similarly went for Raila support base & drove them home - and whatever is happening is just the re-balancing post Raila. The meet you see the hyena fighting over is actually Raila's goat. That is actually a kalenjin proverb. When your see the hyenas fighting, just know you goat has been eatenr

[Globalcitizen12]

Karine was biggest shareholder of clayworks near Kenya tents ..it was looted by his sons before he died

[Kichwa]

Let me break it down for you. After Uhuru vanguished Raila - he obviously think he deserve some recognition as the top dog who tamed/killed Raila - while Ruto similarly went for Raila support base & drove them home - and whatever is happening is just the re-balancing post Raila. The meet you see the hyena fighting over is actually Raila's goat. That is actually a kalenjin proverb. When your see the hyenas fighting, just know you goat has been eatenr

[Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants]

The politics he is falling back on is out of touch with handshake politics.  The antithesis actually. 

Handshake says unite and end electoral violence.  The hustler says we will go Shaka Zulu on Kikuyus(or everybody)

[Omollo]

About URP and TNA: I watched in disbelief as GEMA cheated Ruto to dissolve URP. They convinced him that he (Ruto) was dissolving TNA. It was a trick directly pulled from The Devil's Book of Tricks (Author: Unknown, suspected to be Arap Moi)

Whichever way I look at it, I find the claim that GEMA is starting the process of getting rid of Ruto totally untrue. The process began several years ago and we are seeing the finale. It has gone through dozens of stages.

Another observation: Unless Uhuru is planning on stepping down and handing power over to Ruto, I find it hard to understand the strategy whereby the Deputy President starts to act as if the president is a departing lame duck. Drunk or stoned, there will arise a time when Uhuru will want to remind Ruto that he is still the boss. Should that happen towards the end of Uhuru's term, it would spell disaster for one of them.

[Nefertiti]

You have a blinker like Pundit who insists Uhurutopia is kosher.  Ruto is not guaranteed GEMA support. However the rout of ODM from the swing zones is ongoing as we speak, and has in fact picked steam with the Handshake. Recall that URP was hived off ODM; the Duales, MATUSA and Northerners were ODM in 2007. At the end of this "fight" there will be GEMA, Ruto and everyone else splintered ala 90s. GEMA cannot splinter easily with the persecution complex. But the Raila coalition is dead, he better be working on a big anti-Ruto coalition... we need it to hold Ruto accountable - if it can even hold!

Raila's in way worse trouble than Ruto, his career dream is done, that's your BIG BLINKER.

[RV Pundit]

You can speculate on some cold war btw Ruto and Uhuru but stubborn fact is this. The confirmed  loser is Raila..who killed nasa and is desperately fighting to retain ODM..
Raila sold himself and his folks for exactly 4 prados $ a siren.

[Nefertiti]

Kichwa needs the Uhuru-Ruto war aspirin to distract from the pain of Raila's death. Huge log in his eye he thinks there's a sand in yours.

You can speculate on some cold war btw Ruto and Uhuru but stubborn fact is this. The confirmed  loser is Raila..who killed nasa and is desperately fighting to retain ODM..
Raila sold himself and his folks for exactly 4 prados $ a siren.

[Kichwa]

How is Raila dead when he is part of the handshake which exposed the UhuRuto war. Do you really think Ouru would have started this war with Ruto without Raila on his side. GEMA could not open a war on two fronts. Gema had no choice but to make peace with Raila first in order to start one with Ruto who was a bigger danger to them.  The country went back to governable immediately after the handshake. That in itself is evidence that Raila is still powerful.

Kichwa needs the Uhuru-Ruto war aspirin to distract from the pain of Raila's death. Huge log in his eye he thinks there's a sand in yours.

You can speculate on some cold war btw Ruto and Uhuru but stubborn fact is this. The confirmed  loser is Raila..who killed nasa and is desperately fighting to retain ODM..
Raila sold himself and his folks for exactly 4 prados $ a siren.

[RV Pundit]

All good - except what did Raila and his people get - for raising the white flag, Uhuru has continued to appoint Ruto folks including those in Luo Nyanza post-handshake and Ruto continues to ran gov - launching projects and use it to bury ODM in many places - and Raila's ODM is holding crisis after crisis meetings. Raila did not even get any role in gov!

Raila killed NASA & ODM exactly for 4 prados & a siren. Typical.Ruto (RV) have yet to lose anything in the war against graft or any "cold" war with Uhuru. At NCPB - Kalenjin replaced a Kalenjin - In NYS -a Kalenjin replaced a Meru.

I don't know what exactly Ruto has "lost" so far in the so called war. Uhuru has no stamina for cold war with Ruto. Ruto will ran so many circles around him. Unless he was to take Raila directly on board.

How is Raila dead when he is part of the handshake which exposed the UhuRuto war. Do you really think Ouru would have started this war with Ruto without Raila on his side. GEMA could not open a war on two fronts. Gema had no choice but to make peace with Raila first in order to start one with Ruto who was a bigger danger to them.  The country went back to governable immediately after the handshake. That in itself is evidence that Raila is still powerful.

[Kichwa]

If I were you I would not worry about Raila. He is sleeping like a baby. Political jobs are lagging political indicators anyway. The guy who is spending sleepless nights wondering how bad this train wreck is going to be is man WSR. Just the other day he was wondering how his cabinet will look like, now he is wondering whether to stay and fight to the bitter end or consider a political exit strategy deal like Njonjo or even exile. If he choses  to fight he has to kill the king. People noticed he did not show up to see Ouru off to Adis.

All good - except what did Raila and his people get - for raising the white flag, Uhuru has continued to appoint Ruto folks including those in Luo Nyanza post-handshake and Ruto continues to ran gov - launching projects and use it to bury ODM in many places - and Raila's ODM is holding crisis after crisis meetings. Raila did not even get any role in gov!

Raila killed NASA & ODM exactly for 4 prados & a siren. Typical.Ruto (RV) have yet to lose anything in the war against graft or any "cold" war with Uhuru. At NCPB - Kalenjin replaced a Kalenjin - In NYS -a Kalenjin replaced a Meru.

I don't know what exactly Ruto has "lost" so far in the so called war. Uhuru has no stamina for cold war with Ruto. Ruto will ran so many circles around him. Unless he was to take Raila directly on board.

How is Raila dead when he is part of the handshake which exposed the UhuRuto war. Do you really think Ouru would have started this war with Ruto without Raila on his side. GEMA could not open a war on two fronts. Gema had no choice but to make peace with Raila first in order to start one with Ruto who was a bigger danger to them.  The country went back to governable immediately after the handshake. That in itself is evidence that Raila is still powerful.

[Nefertiti]

Raila got GoK role as AU/IGAD amassador - he's fixing South Sudan. In the meantime the real war is between him and Ruto as ODM is routed everywhere outside Luo Nyanza. Kichwa says Raila is on the sidelines watching "war" ... in truth Raila is the first victim of the war.

All good - except what did Raila and his people get - for raising the white flag, Uhuru has continued to appoint Ruto folks including those in Luo Nyanza post-handshake and Ruto continues to ran gov - launching projects and use it to bury ODM in many places - and Raila's ODM is holding crisis after crisis meetings. Raila did not even get any role in gov!

Raila killed NASA & ODM exactly for 4 prados & a siren. Typical.Ruto (RV) have yet to lose anything in the war against graft or any "cold" war with Uhuru. At NCPB - Kalenjin replaced a Kalenjin - In NYS -a Kalenjin replaced a Meru.

I don't know what exactly Ruto has "lost" so far in the so called war. Uhuru has no stamina for cold war with Ruto. Ruto will ran so many circles around him. Unless he was to take Raila directly on board.

[Kichwa]

Robina, sometime I think you are just heckling without knowing what you are heckling about. Tell me just one place where ODM has been routed out and please do not tell me about coast province. The people who rushed to Ruto before the war with him and ouru boiled to the open are already doing a moon walk. As the war between Ruto and Ouru rages, you will not hear any talk of Ruto in the coast anywhere or central province. Just as you came to accept that there is a war between Ouru and Ruto, this too will come to pass. The days of following RV pundit blindly are over my friend.

Raila got GoK role as AU/IGAD amassador - he's fixing South Sudan. In the meantime the real war is between him and Ruto as ODM is routed everywhere outside Luo Nyanza. Kichwa says Raila is on the sidelines watching "war" ... in truth Raila is the first victim of the war.

All good - except what did Raila and his people get - for raising the white flag, Uhuru has continued to appoint Ruto folks including those in Luo Nyanza post-handshake and Ruto continues to ran gov - launching projects and use it to bury ODM in many places - and Raila's ODM is holding crisis after crisis meetings. Raila did not even get any role in gov!

Raila killed NASA & ODM exactly for 4 prados & a siren. Typical.Ruto (RV) have yet to lose anything in the war against graft or any "cold" war with Uhuru. At NCPB - Kalenjin replaced a Kalenjin - In NYS -a Kalenjin replaced a Meru.

I don't know what exactly Ruto has "lost" so far in the so called war. Uhuru has no stamina for cold war with Ruto. Ruto will ran so many circles around him. Unless he was to take Raila directly on board.

[Nefertiti]

Why are Jumwa and Dori being kicked out of parliamentary committees? They have rebelled against ODM to support Ruto. Nanok too. Kingi? These are big ODM fish. You're in denial about the precarious situation. Ruto may fight with Uhuru but we see many top GEMA still in his corner. Show me any elected Central leaders who have gone rogue on Ruto like ODM MPs are doing to Raila. Besides that the Wetas already left Raila's corner. I think Uhuru may end up with a rebellion... imagine he's PORK yet Ichung'wa, Waititu, et al - Kiambu backyard - support Ruto openly in public rallies.

Robina, sometime I think you are just heckling without knowing what you are heckling about. Tell me just one place where ODM has been routed out and please do not tell me about coast province. The people who rushed to Ruto before the war with him and ouru boiled to the open are already doing a moon walk. As the war between Ruto and Ouru rages, you will not hear any talk of Ruto in the coast anywhere or central province. Just as you came to accept that there is a war between Ouru and Ruto, this too will come to pass. The days of following RV pundit blindly are over my friend.

Raila got GoK role as AU/IGAD amassador - he's fixing South Sudan. In the meantime the real war is between him and Ruto as ODM is routed everywhere outside Luo Nyanza. Kichwa says Raila is on the sidelines watching "war" ... in truth Raila is the first victim of the war.

All good - except what did Raila and his people get - for raising the white flag, Uhuru has continued to appoint Ruto folks including those in Luo Nyanza post-handshake and Ruto continues to ran gov - launching projects and use it to bury ODM in many places - and Raila's ODM is holding crisis after crisis meetings. Raila did not even get any role in gov!

Raila killed NASA & ODM exactly for 4 prados & a siren. Typical.Ruto (RV) have yet to lose anything in the war against graft or any "cold" war with Uhuru. At NCPB - Kalenjin replaced a Kalenjin - In NYS -a Kalenjin replaced a Meru.

I don't know what exactly Ruto has "lost" so far in the so called war. Uhuru has no stamina for cold war with Ruto. Ruto will ran so many circles around him. Unless he was to take Raila directly on board.