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Uhuru Kenyatta Vs Bill Ruto
« on: June 20, 2018, 01:54:11 PM »
Evidence shows Ruto is now fighting back.

He has, using his proxies taken it to Uhuru's doorstep:

1. Named locations where Uhuru is hiding toxic sugar and other contraband
2. Caused his trucks to be impounded while transporting contraband sugar
3. Offered to face a "Lifestyle Audit" ahead of everyone else but asked all public officers to line up behind him

I think he knows Uhuru will flunk such an audit - if it is ever held with any degree of credibility.

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Re: Uhuru Kenyatta Vs Bill Ruto
« Reply #1 on: June 20, 2018, 02:03:58 PM »
Those are sideshows. Both would fail any credible lifestyle audit starting from 2013. Ruto is banking on starting with Jomo knowing very well by the time we get to him it will be 2099.
The problem is Kenyans know there is runaway corruption in the country and now Uhuru wants to display Ruto as the main culprit. Uhuru and his cronies have looted a tenfold of what Ruto and his crude cronies have looted since 2013.

Evidence shows Ruto is now fighting back.

He has, using his proxies taken it to Uhuru's doorstep:

1. Named locations where Uhuru is hiding toxic sugar and other contraband
2. Caused his trucks to be impounded while transporting contraband sugar
3. Offered to face a "Lifestyle Audit" ahead of everyone else but asked all public officers to line up behind him

I think he knows Uhuru will flunk such an audit - if it is ever held with any degree of credibility.

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Re: Uhuru Kenyatta Vs Bill Ruto
« Reply #2 on: June 20, 2018, 02:09:37 PM »
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Re: Uhuru Kenyatta Vs Bill Ruto
« Reply #3 on: June 20, 2018, 02:19:14 PM »
The strategy to make Ruto the Face of Corruption, if indeed it was, is doomed to fail.

Uhuru it would look is good at stealing elections. Perhaps because the mother is a cold calculating person with zero emotions. Taking out a guy like Ruto requires nothing slower than lightening. Ruto is the kind of guy if given 3 seconds to breath will mobilize enough power to be rescued from the face of a firing squad.

I liken him to Jean Paul Marat of the French Revolution.

In other words - and I am not advocating for it - such a person can only be assassinated. Like a socialist or communist in Africa, there is no way you can remove him from power short of an internal revolt within his own organization. Ruto has a network of cells  that would make a communist envious.

My view is that if Uhuru fails to get rid of him within the next 3 months, Ruto will get rid of Uhuru faster than he can wipe his asshole.

Those are sideshows. Both would fail any credible lifestyle audit starting from 2013. Ruto is banking on starting with Jomo knowing very well by the time we get to him it will be 2099.

The problem is Kenyans know there is runaway corruption in the country and now Uhuru wants to display Ruto as the main culprit. Uhuru and his cronies have looted a tenfold of what Ruto and his crude cronies have looted since 2013.
... [the ICC case] will be tried in Europe, where due procedure and expertise prevail.; ... Second-guessing Ocampo and fantasizing ..has obviously become a national pastime.- NattyDread

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Re: Uhuru Kenyatta Vs Bill Ruto
« Reply #4 on: June 20, 2018, 03:01:55 PM »
You are over estimating ruto...uhuru is going to chocke Somali billionaires. once they shift their money to uhuru ..ruto will be cash strapped..in 2 years his empire will collapse like the alliance hotels..this Putin vs Russian Luke oil oligarchs

Remember kalenjins displaced 300k kikuyus..no community will do such a thing to vengeful gema and go free...you are in for some balls smashing season of political blood letting

Muthaura is in kra...that is one of the pillars uhuru will use this kill off ruto rebellion

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Re: Uhuru Kenyatta Vs Bill Ruto
« Reply #5 on: June 20, 2018, 04:17:51 PM »
Perhaps you should re-read what I wrote and look for
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if Uhuru fails to get rid of him within the next 3 months, Ruto will get rid of Uhuru faster than he can wipe his asshole.

It means if Ruto has not fallen in the next three months, Uhuru would have failed to get rid of him and he would be facing a massive counter attack.

You are over estimating ruto...uhuru is going to chocke Somali billionaires. once they shift their money to uhuru ..ruto will be cash strapped..in 2 years his empire will collapse like the alliance hotels..this Putin vs Russian Luke oil oligarchs

Remember kalenjins displaced 300k kikuyus..no community will do such a thing to vengeful gema and go free...you are in for some balls smashing season of political blood letting

Muthaura is in kra...that is one of the pillars uhuru will use this kill off ruto rebellion
... [the ICC case] will be tried in Europe, where due procedure and expertise prevail.; ... Second-guessing Ocampo and fantasizing ..has obviously become a national pastime.- NattyDread

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Re: Uhuru Kenyatta Vs Bill Ruto
« Reply #6 on: June 20, 2018, 05:23:15 PM »
True,  assassinations  were so effective because they happened before people knew there was problems in paradise and therefore very easy to deny. Ouru had already announced his problems with Ruto and inoculated him from assassination. If anything happens to Ruto now then Ouru will be held responsible no matter what.  Ouru therefore has no choice but to either finish Ruto politically or find an iron clad criminal case against him. Either way Ruto will fight back. This is not necessarily bad for Kenya. Ourutu era was bad for Kenya and it will end up consuming both of them. They expended too much energy fighting ICC and Raila and destroyed Kenya. A real Greek tragedy. Maybe a Phoenix will rise from the ashes. 

The strategy to make Ruto the Face of Corruption, if indeed it was, is doomed to fail.

Uhuru it would look is good at stealing elections. Perhaps because the mother is a cold calculating person with zero emotions. Taking out a guy like Ruto requires nothing slower than lightening. Ruto is the kind of guy if given 3 seconds to breath will mobilize enough power to be rescued from the face of a firing squad.

I liken him to Jean Paul Marat of the French Revolution.

In other words - and I am not advocating for it - such a person can only be assassinated. Like a socialist or communist in Africa, there is no way you can remove him from power short of an internal revolt within his own organization. Ruto has a network of cells  that would make a communist envious.

My view is that if Uhuru fails to get rid of him within the next 3 months, Ruto will get rid of Uhuru faster than he can wipe his asshole.

Those are sideshows. Both would fail any credible lifestyle audit starting from 2013. Ruto is banking on starting with Jomo knowing very well by the time we get to him it will be 2099.

The problem is Kenyans know there is runaway corruption in the country and now Uhuru wants to display Ruto as the main culprit. Uhuru and his cronies have looted a tenfold of what Ruto and his crude cronies have looted since 2013.
"I have done my job and I will not change anything dead or a live" Malonza

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Re: Uhuru Kenyatta Vs Bill Ruto
« Reply #7 on: June 20, 2018, 07:51:24 PM »
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Re: Uhuru Kenyatta Vs Bill Ruto
« Reply #8 on: June 20, 2018, 08:01:59 PM »
Only few took the bait that Uhuru was ever going to fight corruption.  Waste of time...kusema na kusema tuu

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Re: Uhuru Kenyatta Vs Bill Ruto
« Reply #9 on: June 20, 2018, 08:30:59 PM »
Only few took the bait that Uhuru was ever going to fight corruption.  Waste of time...kusema na kusema tuu

I don't think anybody believes that.  It's an open secret that this is about GEMA telling the hustler they owe him nothing.  There are no good guys.  So no tears to shed for whoever catches the brunt.
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Re: Uhuru Kenyatta Vs Bill Ruto
« Reply #10 on: June 20, 2018, 08:51:33 PM »
The most important thing is that the thieves are now openly fighting and even our resident ostrich Pundit can no longer deny. I think the genie is completely out of the box and cannot be rebottled.   Ouru should now go to plan B because plan A is oviously not working. Actually he should skip plan B and C and move straight to plan D because he wasted too much time playing coy after the handshake shook Ruto to the core.  I still believe Ouru has an upper hand but like Omollo said, the window is closing fast.

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Re: Uhuru Kenyatta Vs Bill Ruto
« Reply #11 on: June 20, 2018, 11:47:55 PM »
Uhuru is happy-go-lucky, slow witted, lazy and not interested in a fight. He wants to retire quietly. It must be your boy Raila who is misleading him. Ruto had likely anticipated the betrayal scenario and planted informers everywhere. He can sabotage and embarass Uhuru easily like he has done with sugar. Akicheza next the poison sugar will show up at Brookeside and the media will be tipped off.

I see Uhuru making peace as he awaits retirement... and for this slight he can forget about the Jubilee Party Leader from which he will be fired as soon as he leaves office.

The most important thing is that the thieves are now openly fighting and even our resident ostrich Pundit can no longer deny. I think the genie is completely out of the box and cannot be rebottled.   Ouru should now go to plan B because plan A is oviously not working. Actually he should skip plan B and C and move straight to plan D because he wasted too much time playing coy after the handshake shook Ruto to the core.  I still believe Ouru has an upper hand but like Omollo said, the window is closing fast.

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Re: Uhuru Kenyatta Vs Bill Ruto
« Reply #12 on: June 20, 2018, 11:53:01 PM »
Just saw JFK online... Mohamed Ali the Jicho Pevu dude from Nyali. He wonders how expensive mercury can be sold off cheaply as sugar. That Matiang'i is playing politics. Then CS Adan Mohamed has contradicted Matiang'i publicly. Uhuru's war will become a circus very easily and he will be left with egg in the face.
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Re: Uhuru Kenyatta Vs Bill Ruto
« Reply #13 on: June 21, 2018, 12:28:29 AM »
Only few took the bait that Uhuru was ever going to fight corruption.  Waste of time...kusema na kusema tuu

I don't think anybody believes that.  It's an open secret that this is about GEMA telling the hustler they owe him nothing.  There are no good guys.  So no tears to shed for whoever catches the brunt.

bitmask correctly predicted that Uhuru and GEMA would not reciprocate Ruto's political support. Well, a good chunk of them are actively scheming against him, some support him while Uhuru is now a watermelon. Well done bitmask, you have one forecast up on Pundit.
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Re: Uhuru Kenyatta Vs Bill Ruto
« Reply #14 on: June 21, 2018, 01:17:19 AM »
Only few took the bait that Uhuru was ever going to fight corruption.  Waste of time...kusema na kusema tuu

I don't think anybody believes that.  It's an open secret that this is about GEMA telling the hustler they owe him nothing.  There are no good guys.  So no tears to shed for whoever catches the brunt.

bitmask correctly predicted that Uhuru and GEMA would not reciprocate Ruto's political support. Well, a good chunk of them are actively scheming against him, some support him while Uhuru is now a watermelon. Well done bitmask, you have one forecast up on Pundit.

Thanks.  But I take no pride in that.  It's like noticing the sky is blue  :D.  I am sure Pundit also knew this was coming down the pipeline, but did not want to jinx his hopes.
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Re: Uhuru Kenyatta Vs Bill Ruto
« Reply #15 on: June 21, 2018, 04:50:47 AM »
You are partially right. However note that Uhuru has other arrangements and understandings with other parties apart from Ruto.

1. The deal with Moi
2. The deal with Raila

These two are in some way linked. Moi does not want a war with Raila and in this he is supported by Mama Ngina. These are the deals tying Uhuru's hands. If he backs Ruto he ends up having Moi and Raila on one side.

It is more like the story of the man carrying grass, a leopard and a goat. He can only carry one item at a time. If he leaves the goat and the grass behind or the leopard and the goat, he will suffer a loss.

He can take the goat and the grass and leave behind the leopard but on his return to pick the leopard, he will find the goat belching. Now if he takes the goat and the leopard, he will return to find the latter belching.

He must choose which of the two - Leopard or goat - he will have with him as he returns for the one he leaves behind on the first trip.

I was told he picked the goat and the grass first then returned with the goat to pick the leopard. He might as well have taken the leopard with him all along

Uhuru is happy-go-lucky, slow witted, lazy and not interested in a fight. He wants to retire quietly. It must be your boy Raila who is misleading him. Ruto had likely anticipated the betrayal scenario and planted informers everywhere. He can sabotage and embarass Uhuru easily like he has done with sugar. Akicheza next the poison sugar will show up at Brookeside and the media will be tipped off.
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Re: Uhuru Kenyatta Vs Bill Ruto
« Reply #16 on: June 21, 2018, 06:21:06 AM »
Ouru can finish Ruto and still be left standing but Ruto cannot finish Ouru wilthout finishing himself unless he had the backing of Raila. But I think he went too far with Raila. He cannot finish both Ouru and Raila. He is not that powerful.

Just saw JFK online... Mohamed Ali the Jicho Pevu dude from Nyali. He wonders how expensive mercury can be sold off cheaply as sugar. That Matiang'i is playing politics. Then CS Adan Mohamed has contradicted Matiang'i publicly. Uhuru's war will become a circus very easily and he will be left with egg in the face.
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Re: Uhuru Kenyatta Vs Bill Ruto
« Reply #17 on: June 21, 2018, 08:09:59 AM »
why would Uhuru fight Ruto.For what end.Nothing.Uhuru $ some inner circle are just worried about perpuating themselves  after 2022.Uhuru doesnt want to become lameduck early nor retire in 2022.The problem with Uhuru he has no energy to do anything on his own...so when shit hit the fan hell need a Ruto or Raila to hold his hand.

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Re: Uhuru Kenyatta Vs Bill Ruto
« Reply #18 on: June 21, 2018, 10:51:26 AM »
GEMA need to look forward - not backward - otherwise right now there is youth bulge in RV & people haven't adjsusted to reduced land sizes that can longer support kind of "large" scale lazy farming they are accosted to..and would make 2007 pev look like walk in the park - if they saw an opportunity to loot.
You are over estimating ruto...uhuru is going to chocke Somali billionaires. once they shift their money to uhuru ..ruto will be cash strapped..in 2 years his empire will collapse like the alliance hotels..this Putin vs Russian Luke oil oligarchs

Remember kalenjins displaced 300k kikuyus..no community will do such a thing to vengeful gema and go free...you are in for some balls smashing season of political blood letting

Muthaura is in kra...that is one of the pillars uhuru will use this kill off ruto rebellion

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Re: Uhuru Kenyatta Vs Bill Ruto
« Reply #19 on: June 21, 2018, 10:56:41 AM »
Rv pundit,
Gema are not idiots they are containing your people slowly.uhuru is going to buikding several paramilitary instslliations in rv..if your yoiuth start a war they will suffer tremendously. Uhuru is not kibaki..you guys have never seen a maniac uhuru. You will see him. Let ruto take care. All I know is those central mps challenging uhuru are dead. They are dead literally..