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Uhuru's nusu mkate paradox
« on: September 08, 2017, 12:12:54 PM »
I have lost count of how many times Uhuru Kenyatta (formerly president-elect) has gone to a rally or official public event and denounced calls for nusu mkate. Often it sounds as if he prosecutes the thought, wraps it around his brain, and passes judgement upon it all unprovoked. The more and more Uhuru denounces nusu mkate the more and more I think he wants it. On the other hand, NASA principals have said categorically they can't share a government with election thieves. As IEBC commissioners and secretariat spill the beans, it is increasingly evident Uhuru will be the one needing half a nusu mkate to hang on. Luckily he has publicly said he is not interested. A giod thing if you ask me.
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Re: Uhuru's nusu mkate paradox
« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2017, 12:45:26 PM »
GM

Uhuru wants Nusu Mkate. His advocate stated it in an open court.

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Re: Uhuru's nusu mkate paradox
« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2017, 12:57:11 PM »
Most people in Kenya just don't want that NUSU mkate where Raila and Kibaki were fighting daily.

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Re: Uhuru's nusu mkate paradox
« Reply #3 on: September 08, 2017, 01:00:03 PM »
"Most people"! Interesting; could that be William Samoei Ruto?

How did you measure that? Feel free to drop in your usual percentages. You may even make a full "MOAS" for that.

Most people in Kenya just don't want that NUSU mkate where Raila and Kibaki were fighting daily.
Most people in Kenya just don't want that NUSU mkate where Raila and Kibaki were fighting daily.
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Re: Uhuru's nusu mkate paradox
« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2017, 01:07:03 PM »
The new keynote in Uhuru's rallies is that there should be a recount of presidential ballots. He forgot to add that the recount should be followed by public signing of Ellam Printing Press 34As at Tononoka just a stonethrow away from source.
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Re: Uhuru's nusu mkate paradox
« Reply #5 on: September 08, 2017, 01:10:01 PM »
The new keynote in Uhuru's rallies is that there should be a recount of presidential ballots. He forgot to add that the recount should be followed by public signing of Ellam Printing Press 34As at Tononoka just a stonethrow away from source.
That was part of their plan: To rig, then create fresh forms that would reflect the stuffed boxes stored with county commissioners. NASA refused to play ball.
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Re: Uhuru's nusu mkate paradox
« Reply #6 on: September 08, 2017, 01:21:13 PM »
GM

Uhuru wants Nusu Mkate. His advocate stated it in an open court.

What! That clip is a winner. Uhuru asked SCOK to allow him to form "an inclusive government"? If Kenyans to him has meant only Kikuyu and Kalenjin for the last four years how does he want SCOK to trust him to form an inclusive government with Turkanas he has insulted, Coasterians he has belittled, Kambas he has ignored, Westerners he has demonuzed and the rest of Kenyans he has hoodwinked? I'm glad SCOK didn't listen. There is talk Uhuru will "win" again and Pundit can prove it. ;)  That is a possibility the rest of Kenya can live with. We have survived for over 50 years with tribalism, marginalization, EJK and other evils. Jubilee only added a pinch of insults and things like chorera.
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Re: Uhuru's nusu mkate paradox
« Reply #7 on: September 08, 2017, 01:28:52 PM »
GM

Uhuru wants Nusu Mkate. His advocate stated it in an open court.

What! That clip is a winner. Uhuru asked SCOK to allow him to form "an inclusive government"? If Kenyans to him has meant only Kikuyu and Kalenjin for the last four years how does he want SCOK to trust him to form an inclusive government with Turkanas he has insulted, Coasterians he has belittled, Kambas he has ignored, Westerners he has demonuzed and the rest of Kenyans he has hoodwinked? I'm glad SCOK didn't listen. There is talk Uhuru will "win" again and Pundit can prove it. ;)  That is a possibility the rest of Kenya can live with. We have survived for over 50 years with tribalism, marginalization, EJK and other evils. Jubilee only added a pinch of insults and things like chorera.
They keep bringing up nusu mkate. Just them, all the time. I don't hear anyone asking to talk to them but they keep singing it. They are obsessed with the notion.

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Re: Uhuru's nusu mkate paradox
« Reply #8 on: September 08, 2017, 01:42:16 PM »
Kadame

What man or woman has never experienced that?

You have this boy who is going around saying "I don't like Kadame" etc when in reality he is crazy about Kadame!

Haven't we all know of that woman in the office with the hots for some guy in the same building? She acts in front of him and when asked if she wants the guy says, over my dead body. Soon the guy is over her dead body and we all attended the wedding.

The drunk who reminds everybody that "she used to say he is gay" is thrown out of the party and all is well.

I think the two are talking. But through megaphones.

I still have not figured out why Raila and the four principals disappeared from a scheduled presser. I would hate to be right again. I think something is afoot!

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Re: Uhuru's nusu mkate paradox
« Reply #9 on: September 08, 2017, 01:52:23 PM »
If Raila does that he will surely lose all respect. Its better to just boycott the pointless elections and get an international job. Last time people understood that it was a sacrifice he made to stop the blood shed. What will be the excuse this time? I hope you are wrong. The day I hear this I will make my peace and forget about supporting RAO.

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Re: Uhuru's nusu mkate paradox
« Reply #10 on: September 08, 2017, 01:57:29 PM »
If Raila does that he will surely lose all respect. Its better to just boycott the pointless elections and get an international job. Last time people understood that it was a sacrifice he made to stop the blood shed. What will be the excuse this time? I hope you are wrong. The day I hear this I will make my peace and forget about supporting RAO.
I can't say what I feel because the Ruto Faction will grab on it and irritate me. So I hope KM will respond to you on the facts and possible explanations why it may be inevitable.
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Re: Uhuru's nusu mkate paradox
« Reply #11 on: September 08, 2017, 02:11:03 PM »
Well, thanks for the warning. I can begin to detach myself from all this politics now. Had really gotten suckered in, kumbe.... All the best to you guys.

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Re: Uhuru's nusu mkate paradox
« Reply #12 on: September 08, 2017, 04:57:53 PM »
Nusumkate.gov may be coming our way again but that could be more from external parties than the party bases. The belligerent talk is meant to up the stakes. Oct 17 is inevitable and RAO will beat thieves again. It is the refusal to hand over that may precipitate a nusu mkate.
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Re: Uhuru's nusu mkate paradox
« Reply #13 on: September 08, 2017, 05:14:59 PM »
Nusumkate.gov may be coming our way again but that could be more from external parties than the party bases. The belligerent talk is meant to up the stakes. Oct 17 is inevitable and RAO will beat thieves again. It is the refusal to hand over that may precipitate a nusu mkate.

That's better than what Omollo is suggesting but I would hope that if RAO clearly wins and they don't hand over, he refuses nusumkate. The world will force them to hand over power sooner or later. But RAO just now forming nusumkate will make no sense.

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Re: Uhuru's nusu mkate paradox
« Reply #14 on: September 08, 2017, 05:51:06 PM »
Nusu-Mkate like it or hate it is one of those tools we acquired in 2008 and still have in our national political tool box to be deployed if we once again find ourselves in the  precipice of abyss. If we can clean up IEBC to the satisfaction of both political parties and hold elections within 60 days then we do not need to deploy nusu-mkate.

Right now I do not know how we are going to resolve the issues raised by Chebukati in his letter to Chiloba and the issues which will  be raised by the reasoning of the court and still hold elections within 60 days. 

One option is for NASA to  capitulate and go into another election with all the land mines planted by jubilee still in place and accept the rigged results.  NASA has a chance to use this opportunity to clean up the electoral system and it would be a shame if they are forced to go into another election without cleaning up the system.  The only realistic way the electoral system can be cleaned is if both sides agree on more time-six moths to one year.  The only way that could happen is if there is  a temporary cease fire arrangement for governance specifically to clean the electoral system and to drain the swamp of corruption  before another presidential election is held. 


Nusumkate.gov may be coming our way again but that could be more from external parties than the party bases. The belligerent talk is meant to up the stakes. Oct 17 is inevitable and RAO will beat thieves again. It is the refusal to hand over that may precipitate a nusu mkate.

That's better than what Omollo is suggesting but I would hope that if RAO clearly wins and they don't hand over, he refuses nusumkate. The world will force them to hand over power sooner or later. But RAO just now forming nusumkate will make no sense.
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