The last ODM firewall as ODM becomes NDP

[RV Pundit]

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Turkana.Kilifi.Kwale.Mombasa.Kisii.Busia will soon turn Jubilee... leaving ODM with 60mps now as Luo party just like when Raila joined KANU.That is where all the action going forward will be played.WSR is going to drive the last nail on Odinga coffin.Politics hakuna huruma.

[Kichwa]

Assuming the other side will continue to play the same when they know the game is rigged.

Turkana.Kilifi.Kwale.Mombasa.Kisii.Busia will soon turn Jubilee... leaving ODM with 60mps now as Luo party just like when Raila joined KANU.That is where all the action going forward will be played.WSR is going to drive the last nail on Odinga coffin.Politics hakuna huruma.

[vooke]

There's someone I don't recall whom who said Babu needs to deluonize ODM. I'll get the clip

[Omollo]

There were no elections to base such a theory upon. Computer generated results do not reflect the will of the people. Again we are seeing the same crap we saw when Pundit equated MPs to the people. Mung'aro is now dead in the water along with the "shifting" MPs in Kilifi.

[RV Pundit]

So Mungaro results were not computer generated while in areas where Jubilee made lots of in-roads including Bungoma, Kakamega,Tana River, Taita Taveta, Kwale, Kisii, Nyamira, the whole of Northern Kenya were- that was rigged?

You clearly think a computer is some GOD. Of course you don't think - you long gave your brain to Mr Odinga.

What I am seeing right now is the likes of Nanok, Joho, Oparanya and Kingi feeling really vulnerable/orphaned - and moving closer to Jubilee.

ODM has continued to hemorrhage - last election they had 78Mps/96(including women rep)- (losing 65/72 mps to URP)- this time round they are in 60s or 50s - having lost mps in Gusii, Kakamega,Bungoma,Nyamira and whole of northern kenya. In fact the only consolation is that they won all of kilifi, Mombasa and Busia  - and that is where Ruto will focus on.

There were no elections to base such a theory upon. Computer generated results do not reflect the will of the people. Again we are seeing the same crap we saw when Pundit equated MPs to the people. Mung'aro is now dead in the water along with the "shifting" MPs in Kilifi.

[GeeMail]

Pundit what you don't realize is that first people know the election was rigged to make Uhuru president and to get a super majority in parliament to make him president for life. It will be just weeks into parliament and you will hear the call. Second is that this rigging has galvanzed the rest of Kenya into one strong base. Raila happensvto be the leader now but stronger and more radical leaders are coming up. NDP, ODM, ANC are mere instruments. Gusii Nyamira people are utterly flabbergasted that the IEBC wing of Jubilee hasvgiven them MPs they did not choose. The ground is still strongly ODM. You should see the fire in Madvd.

[RV Pundit]

You're engaged in wishful thinking. Gusii yote has zero ODM mp except Arati of Dago. I see Nakuru West Mp Arama defected and won in Jubilee. The same is true in places like Kakamega and Bungoma where ODM scored zero - ODM I think lost nearly 20-30mps - to Jubilee, ANC and Ford-K.

If your analyse the near future of all the 47 counties - one thing you'll note - is that counties where each party is strong - are those it has really grass-root support - MCA/MP/Women Rep/Senator/Governor - Raila has therefore lost Kakamega, Bungoma,Northern Kenya, Most of Maa and lots of Coast --- even in places he got more votes that Uhuru - he has no grassroot support structures - like Mps/MCAS/Senate/Governor - to keep the fire burning for 5 years.

And as for the rest of NASA luminaries...

Ford-K - Will share with Jubilee the Bukusu nation (read Bungoma+TransNzoia) - I don't see Wetangula losing the little support he has - he's going to be helped by the fact that he won two governorship - although Kitale's Khaemba is not going to ran again and is looking at his own future.
ANC - who are very happy with 11 mps maDVD will defend Vihiga and part of Kakamega with his life.
Wiper & MCC - This will be dog fight in Ukambani that will keep both Kalonzo and Mutua busy. I don't see any serious hemorrhage.

ODM - Basically has about 10-13  counties now - I am postulating that in few years it will be struggling outside the 6 counties where Luo have significant numbers - migori,homabay, kisumu, siaya, nairobi and mombasa. They will not be able to defend Kwale, Kilifi,Busia,Kisii, Kakamega & Turkana - not without money - not without patronage - not without incumbency - not with those governors in their last term as governors and all looking at 2022 with options.

Therefore MOAS 2022 is slowly going to emerge.

Pundit what you don't realize is that first people know the election was rigged to make Uhuru president 'and to get a super majority in parliament to make him president for life. It will be just weeks into parliament and you will hear the call. Second is that this rigging has galvanzed the rest of Kenya into one strong base. Raila happensvto be the leader now but stronger and more radical leaders are coming up. NDP, ODM, ANC are mere instruments. Gusii Nyamira people are utterly flabbergasted that the IEBC wing of Jubilee hasvgiven them MPs they did not choose. The ground is still strongly ODM. You should see the fire in Madvd.

[GeeMail]

You are basing your analysis on the results of a flawed election. The numbers you are talking about are computer generated tujifalangalangas. Kakamega remains fiercely antiJubilee. Kilifi, Bungoma, Maasailand etc arevstrong antiJubilee as well. You can tell that people like Ole Dengu will be in serious trouble once petitions are filed. Unless of course you want to make another confession on how Jubilee will use SGR and Eurobond to settle the case. Shall we set up the confessional? Pastor Vwooke presiding.

[RV Pundit]

Who said the election were flawed? Raila - and the bitter losers of NASA? What did you expect him to say when he got a dog beating that fatally ended his career.

Elections were free and fair according to all observers except a fake one by NASA wing calling itself Kura Yangu Sauti Yangu by Maina Kia's/Kegoros.

Carter Foundation - Election free and fair.
EU Election Observers - Election free and fair.
AU Election Observers - Election free and fair.
Commonwealth Observers - Election free and fair.
ELOG - Election free and fair.


Elections were free and fair according to Independent IEBC. Next is for supreme court to affirm that elections were free and fair a week for now.

You are basing your analysis on the results of a flawed election. The numbers you are talking about are computer generated tujifalangalangas. Kakamega remains fiercely antiJubilee. Kilifi, Bungoma, Maasailand etc arevstrong antiJubilee as well. You can tell that people like Ole Dengu will be in serious trouble once petitions are filed. Unless of course you want to make another confession on how Jubilee will use SGR and Eurobond to settle the case. Shall we set up the confessional? Pastor Vwooke presiding.

[Omollo]

The algorithm did not target all areas - unless you know differently.

It was first and foremost created for Presidential elections. However pressure emerged to include a few more people. These included:

1. Ng'ang'a Mutua
2. Ole Lenku
3. Mike Sonko

I can get you a comprehensive list at the end of this week if you wish. We are still examining the 51% and 41% results for the same type of people. It looks plausible.

In many cases where the "winner" got 54% while the runner-up got less than 44% a simple addition of the percentages of ALL the other candidates brings it to 44% or thereabouts.

Like GeeMail has told you several times, your analysis is based on a fake election. Just like you thought defecting MPs take along the people, you now think imposing those MPs and governors means the people have shifted.

There is a reason people study politics and the collective behavior of people. Concentrate on data entry and leave politics to us. I can give you a million stooges imposed on people by different dictators and also show you how that act by itself transformed a simple dislike of the dictatorship in to a full fledged rebellion ending in the invariable defeat of the dictator!

The colonial government sought to impose Ngala on Kenyans. KADU lost the subsequent elections to KANU on account of that decision to associate with the colonists.

Your masters have told you to stop referencing to NASA and instead focus on Luos. The tribalist in you did not need a second to think.

Busia - ODM Governor
Vihiga - ODM Governor
Kakamega - ODM Governor

If you want to go deeper in history, ODM is an offshoot of FORD and FORD-K

Bungoma - Ford K Governor

The party has cemented its base in Nyanza, western, Coast. Your computer generated governor in Kwale will have a hard time. I come from the coast and dhulma cannot stand Pundit.

So Mungaro results were not computer generated while in areas where Jubilee made lots of in-roads including Bungoma, Kakamega,Tana River, Taita Taveta, Kwale, Kisii, Nyamira, the whole of Northern Kenya were- that was rigged?

You clearly think a computer is some GOD. Of course you don't think - you long gave your brain to Mr Odinga.

What I am seeing right now is the likes of Nanok, Joho, Oparanya and Kingi feeling really vulnerable/orphaned - and moving closer to Jubilee.

ODM has continued to hemorrhage - last election they had 78Mps/96(including women rep)- (losing 65/72 mps to URP)- this time round they are in 60s or 50s - having lost mps in Gusii, Kakamega,Bungoma,Nyamira and whole of northern kenya. In fact the only consolation is that they won all of kilifi, Mombasa and Busia  - and that is where Ruto will focus on.

There were no elections to base such a theory upon. Computer generated results do not reflect the will of the people. Again we are seeing the same crap we saw when Pundit equated MPs to the people. Mung'aro is now dead in the water along with the "shifting" MPs in Kilifi.

[Omollo]

Let the record show that these reports (if accurate) were issued before the result phase of the elections and do NOT reflect the phase of the election under contention.

Who said the election were flawed? Raila - and the bitter losers of NASA? What did you expect him to say when he got a dog beating that fatally ended his career.

Elections were free and fair according to all observers except a fake one by NASA wing calling itself Kura Yangu Sauti Yangu by Maina Kia's/Kegoros.

Carter Foundation - Election free and fair.
EU Election Observers - Election free and fair.
AU Election Observers - Election free and fair.
Commonwealth Observers - Election free and fair.
ELOG - Election free and fair.


Elections were free and fair according to Independent IEBC. Next is for supreme court to affirm that elections were free and fair a week for now.

You are basing your analysis on the results of a flawed election. The numbers you are talking about are computer generated tujifalangalangas. Kakamega remains fiercely antiJubilee. Kilifi, Bungoma, Maasailand etc arevstrong antiJubilee as well. You can tell that people like Ole Dengu will be in serious trouble once petitions are filed. Unless of course you want to make another confession on how Jubilee will use SGR and Eurobond to settle the case. Shall we set up the confessional? Pastor Vwooke presiding.

[GeeMail]

Tujifalangalanga isitutishe. Observers are holiday makers coming to see animals in Africa safari. They have little knowledge of an African election thief. Tell me any African election observers have given a meaningful different report except Zimbabwe.

[Omollo]

How many ungazetted polling stations has the IEBC admitted were in Kisii and Nyamira?

Geemail might be thinking wishfully, but you are not thinking at all and want all of us to do the same.

You're engaged in wishful thinking. Gusii yote has zero ODM mp except Arati of Dago. I see Nakuru West Mp Arama defected and won in Jubilee. The same is true in places like Kakamega and Bungoma where ODM scored zero - ODM I think lost nearly 20-30mps - to Jubilee, ANC and Ford-K.

If your analyse the near future of all the 47 counties - one thing you'll note - is that counties where each party is strong - are those it has really grass-root support - MCA/MP/Women Rep/Senator/Governor - Raila has therefore lost Kakamega, Bungoma,Northern Kenya, Most of Maa and lots of Coast --- even in places he got more votes that Uhuru - he has no grassroot support structures - like Mps/MCAS/Senate/Governor - to keep the fire burning for 5 years.

And as for the rest of NASA luminaries...

Ford-K - Will share with Jubilee the Bukusu nation (read Bungoma+TransNzoia) - I don't see Wetangula losing the little support he has - he's going to be helped by the fact that he won two governorship - although Kitale's Khaemba is not going to ran again and is looking at his own future.
ANC - who are very happy with 11 mps maDVD will defend Vihiga and part of Kakamega with his life.
Wiper & MCC - This will be dog fight in Ukambani that will keep both Kalonzo and Mutua busy. I don't see any serious hemorrhage.

ODM - Basically has about 10-13  counties now - I am postulating that in few years it will be struggling outside the 6 counties where Luo have significant numbers - migori,homabay, kisumu, siaya, nairobi and mombasa. They will not be able to defend Kwale, Kilifi,Busia,Kisii, Kakamega & Turkana - not without money - not without patronage - not without incumbency - not with those governors in their last term as governors and all looking at 2022 with options.

Therefore MOAS 2022 is slowly going to emerge.

Pundit what you don't realize is that first people know the election was rigged to make Uhuru president 'and to get a super majority in parliament to make him president for life. It will be just weeks into parliament and you will hear the call. Second is that this rigging has galvanzed the rest of Kenya into one strong base. Raila happensvto be the leader now but stronger and more radical leaders are coming up. NDP, ODM, ANC are mere instruments. Gusii Nyamira people are utterly flabbergasted that the IEBC wing of Jubilee hasvgiven them MPs they did not choose. The ground is still strongly ODM. You should see the fire in Madvd.

[RV Pundit]

More bla bla bla.

The algorithm did not target all areas - unless you know differently.

It was first and foremost created for Presidential elections. However pressure emerged to include a few more people. These included:

1. Ng'ang'a Mutua
2. Ole Lenku
3. Mike Sonko

I can get you a comprehensive list at the end of this week if you wish. We are still examining the 51% and 41% results for the same type of people. It looks plausible.

In many cases where the "winner" got 54% while the runner-up got less than 44% a simple addition of the percentages of ALL the other candidates brings it to 44% or thereabouts.

Like GeeMail has told you several times, your analysis is based on a fake election. Just like you thought defecting MPs take along the people, you now think imposing those MPs and governors means the people have shifted.

There is a reason people study politics and the collective behavior of people. Concentrate on data entry and leave politics to us. I can give you a million stooges imposed on people by different dictators and also show you how that act by itself transformed a simple dislike of the dictatorship in to a full fledged rebellion ending in the invariable defeat of the dictator!

The colonial government sought to impose Ngala on Kenyans. KADU lost the subsequent elections to KANU on account of that decision to associate with the colonists.

Your masters have told you to stop referencing to NASA and instead focus on Luos. The tribalist in you did not need a second to think.

Busia - ODM Governor
Vihiga - ODM Governor
Kakamega - ODM Governor

If you want to go deeper in history, ODM is an offshoot of FORD and FORD-K

Bungoma - Ford K Governor

The party has cemented its base in Nyanza, western, Coast. Your computer generated governor in Kwale will have a hard time. I come from the coast and dhulma cannot stand Pundit.

So Mungaro results were not computer generated while in areas where Jubilee made lots of in-roads including Bungoma, Kakamega,Tana River, Taita Taveta, Kwale, Kisii, Nyamira, the whole of Northern Kenya were- that was rigged?

You clearly think a computer is some GOD. Of course you don't think - you long gave your brain to Mr Odinga.

What I am seeing right now is the likes of Nanok, Joho, Oparanya and Kingi feeling really vulnerable/orphaned - and moving closer to Jubilee.

ODM has continued to hemorrhage - last election they had 78Mps/96(including women rep)- (losing 65/72 mps to URP)- this time round they are in 60s or 50s - having lost mps in Gusii, Kakamega,Bungoma,Nyamira and whole of northern kenya. In fact the only consolation is that they won all of kilifi, Mombasa and Busia  - and that is where Ruto will focus on.

There were no elections to base such a theory upon. Computer generated results do not reflect the will of the people. Again we are seeing the same crap we saw when Pundit equated MPs to the people. Mung'aro is now dead in the water along with the "shifting" MPs in Kilifi.

[RV Pundit]

In 2007 they refused to endorse Kibaki win. The observers job is to observe elections. They do this daily. This is not once -off thing. After kenya they left for next country.

Tujifalangalanga isitutishe. Observers are holiday makers coming to see animals in Africa safari. They have little knowledge of an African election thief. Tell me any African election observers have given a meaningful different report except Zimbabwe.

[RV Pundit]

Nope. Observers observed everything. ELOG went ahead to even do their own tallying by sampling representative polls and they came up with this IEBC number 54% versus 45%.

Let the record show that these reports (if accurate) were issued before the result phase of the elections and do NOT reflect the phase of the election under contention.

[Omollo]

A contaminated sample will give the same result. We are talking about a sample. Get serious.

Nope. Observers observed everything. ELOG went ahead to even do their own tallying by sampling representative polls and they came up with this IEBC number 54% versus 45%.

Let the record show that these reports (if accurate) were issued before the result phase of the elections and do NOT reflect the phase of the election under contention.

[RV Pundit]

Bla -de-bla omollosque nonsense.A rigged election smells just like the nonsense you write here reeks - and I cannot dignify nonsense with a response.

A contaminated sample will give the same result. We are talking about a sample. Get serious.

[Kadame7]

You are basing your analysis on the results of a flawed election. The numbers you are talking about are computer generated tujifalangalangas. Kakamega remains fiercely antiJubilee. Kilifi, Bungoma, Maasailand etc arevstrong antiJubilee as well. You can tell that people like Ole Dengu will be in serious trouble once petitions are filed. Unless of course you want to make another confession on how Jubilee will use SGR and Eurobond to settle the case. Shall we set up the confessional? Pastor Vwooke presiding.

Geemail, I have zero proof of rigging but I know and all Kisiis I know know, that Uhuru did not get those votes in Gusii. Kwanza he allegedly won in Nyamira. Do you know that Kisii is the more Jubilee friendly county of the two while Nyamira is very strongly opposed? Wacha tu. Me hizo results za waKisii siezi believe na nikipata wakisii wengi wanaziamini labda I will change my mind. Luhyas are also rabidly anti-Jubilee. I don't know about coast.

[RV Pundit]

Shouldn't be hard to pick the primary school you know - and ask people how they voted - how they counted and tallied the votes. All this is done locally. The results is then pinned in every school or polling station.

I have zero proof of rigging but I know and all Kisiis I know know, that Uhuru did not get those votes in Gusii. Kwanza he allegedly won in Nyamira. Do you know that Kisii is the more Jubilee friendly county while Nyamira is very strongly opposed? Wacha tu. Me hizo results za waKisii siezi believe na nikipata wakisii wengi wanaziamini labda I will change my mind. Luhyas are also rabidly anti-Jubilee. I don't know about coast.