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Re: Iebc hand over 54000 forms..all clean without discrepancies
« Reply #20 on: August 23, 2017, 12:44:38 PM »
Bla de bla omollosque nonsense.
I don't wish to interfere with your "dialogue". However some things Pundit says cannot be allowed to stand even for a minute. They are toxic.
Huge percentage of human error is NASA spin When one lives in an echo chamber what else do you expect? Look at Senatorial results for Trans Nzioa where the winner announced BEFORE 11,000 results of polling stations were available is no longer the winner as per the portal. It is the same Pundit who shouted Uhuru win based on those portal results. How does the IEBC ... 3-4 parallel systems that cure those errors.???

Nobody is expecting a perfect election. Speak for yourself. For the billions used majority of Kenyans expect more than perfect elections. The problems in the exercise were not natural or unavoidable. They were created by Jubilee so that they could hold on to power after failing to convince Kenyans to vote for them. Jubilee LOST to NASA after all the bravado. They resorted to THEFT!

As long as IEBC and Jubilee can proof the errors were not deliberate, were fair, and were not malicious - mambo yenu kwisha: Here you confuse you wishes with reality. The idea that Jubilee would steal the election then somehow convince everyone that the deliberate actions taken such as blatant forgeries, swapping results to give Uhuru more votes and the algorithm were "not deliberate". Good luck.

NASA should have conceded long before elections were done. I told them point blank 5 yrs or so ago they were not making it. In fact they should not have gone for this election knowing they were losing: Interesting. So you had access to the algorithm plans way back? The truth is that NASA beat Uhuru hands down. He decided to steal just like you stated two years ago that "if he (Uhuru) finds he is losing, he will, like Kibaki steal".

Huge percentage of human error is NASA spin. IEBC ran 3-4 parralel systems that cures those errors. Nobody is expecting a perfect election. As long as IEBC and Jubilee can proof the errors were not deliberate, were fair, and were not malicious - mambo yenu kwisha. This petition is a waste of time.

NASA should have conceded long before elections were done. I told them point blank 5 yrs or so ago they were not making it. In fact they should not have gone for this election knowing they were losing.

So to you Chiloba's word is the sole truth? Bwana Pundit, quote  Chiloba and and do not make his words yours. This way you will be on the safe side when things prove otherwise. As of 54000 forms being all clean, I beg to deferr due to huge percentage of human error.

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Re: Iebc hand over 54000 forms..all clean without discrepancies
« Reply #21 on: August 23, 2017, 12:54:37 PM »
I stopped addressing you even if your handle may appear. My target is to cut off your propaganda delivered in small doses like heroin.

Here is one of the clean IEBC forms you spoke of:

Bla de bla omollosque nonsense.
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Re: Iebc hand over 54000 forms..all clean without discrepancies
« Reply #22 on: August 23, 2017, 01:09:08 PM »
What wrong with the form - this seem like confusion - by agents - whether to write their name or the candidate they were agents for?
I stopped addressing you even if your handle may appear. My target is to cut off your propaganda delivered in small doses like heroin.

Here is one of the clean IEBC forms you spoke of:

Bla de bla omollosque nonsense.


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Re: Iebc hand over 54000 forms..all clean without discrepancies
« Reply #23 on: August 23, 2017, 01:12:17 PM »
You are something... how about the signatures?
What wrong with the form - this seem like confusion - by agents - whether to write their name or the candidate they were agents for?
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Re: Iebc hand over 54000 forms..all clean without discrepancies
« Reply #24 on: August 23, 2017, 01:14:02 PM »
They look okay. I can see the agent started scribbling probably his name....before someone told him to write the candidate name and he wrote Raila Odinga. If you dispute this - IEBC can open the ballot box and manual counting of the ballots can be done.

If this is the 'errors" NASA has identified - then judges will have easy time dismiss this case.

You are something... how about the signatures?

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Re: Iebc hand over 54000 forms..all clean without discrepancies
« Reply #25 on: August 23, 2017, 01:17:28 PM »
We know that strategy. The fake forms will somehow be confirmed by recounts. This after the boxes receives new seals while the safe custody of the County Commissioner!

Do not be too cavalier about this. What is happening is wrong. You may be pleased because it benefits you but know that many many others have done it before and NONE has lived to boast about it in old age.

They look okay. I can see the agent started scribbling probably his name....before someone told him to write the candidate name and he wrote Raila Odinga. If you dispute this - IEBC can open the ballot box and manual counting of the ballots can be done.
You are something... how about the signatures?
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Re: Iebc hand over 54000 forms..all clean without discrepancies
« Reply #26 on: August 23, 2017, 01:19:51 PM »
Nothing there is fake. That is just confusion on whether to write candidate or agent name.Otherwise the ID is captured there. IEBC obviously has the names of those agents because they were forwarded to them by NASA and got accreditation. You see agents don't even have to sign. They don't have to be present. These two have their IDS number, telephone number and signature.

What exactly would invalidate this Form 34A and disefranchize the 320 people of Kithungu Primary School - an INNOCOUS mistake by the agent name?

IEBC are trusted by our constitution as independent arbiter to conduct free and fair election.

We know that strategy. The fake forms will somehow be confirmed by recounts. This after the boxes receives new seals while the safe custody of the County Commissioner!

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Re: Iebc hand over 54000 forms..all clean without discrepancies
« Reply #27 on: August 23, 2017, 04:43:03 PM »
I am not sure what other forms are but forms are for - but it should be around this number.
41K - form 34s A.
290 - form 34s B.
1 - form 34c.

Timeline - are set by constitution & laws. Not by NASA demanding for the forms every couple of seconds. IEBC remain constitutional body that enjoys lots of leeway - You really need to proof fraud or serious incompetence something close to that for judges to disregard any IEBC.

54,000 seems to be more than the requisite forms.  The total number of forms should be 41,174.  What are the roughly 13,000 extra forms? 

Also important is whether these forms were availed at the relevant time.  If IEBC is on record, for not presenting a substantial number of these forms to NASA when they were required, it should not make material difference that they now have them.

I think one of the requirements is that elections are supposed to be transparent, verifiable etc.  IEBC is on record, not just denying these forms to NASA, but saying they are not available.
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Re: Iebc hand over 54000 forms..all clean without discrepancies
« Reply #28 on: August 23, 2017, 06:03:46 PM »
What exactly were NASWA agents signing at Bomas if they had not a accessed all these forms?
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Re: Iebc hand over 54000 forms..all clean without discrepancies
« Reply #29 on: August 23, 2017, 06:14:43 PM »
In the first place NASWA should have had their copies - and would use IEBC form to verify. The claim that their agents were kicked out of Central & RV will be easily dismantled because NASA gave IEBC list of agent before hand. This is party that was given a dog beating and is trying to sell nonsense nobody sane can buy.

I cannot wait for supreme court to examine evidence.

I mean all observers gave the election clean bill of health.

ELOG guys who sampled good number of polling stations and tallied their results agreed with IEBC.

IEBC had 3-4 systems - complete with biometrics - how the hell do you rig?

Then you hear computer generated nonsense - when NASA manufactured SQL Server Log on Win 7 VM machine :) while IEBC ran state - of-the-art Oracle systems.

This party that not only lost election but lost their senses in the process.

Totally shameless.

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Re: Iebc hand over 54000 forms..all clean without discrepancies
« Reply #30 on: August 23, 2017, 09:27:19 PM »
Have you gone through all the 54000 forms in order to declare them clean?

Nothing coming off the IEBC website is "clean". This fake image of Dr. Akombe has already been debunked


Photoshop. Check left hand of fake Dr. Akombe. "Carrying" that heavy document with finger tips. Clearly a false attempt to show that she is back.



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Re: Iebc hand over 54000 forms..all clean without discrepancies
« Reply #31 on: August 23, 2017, 09:29:42 PM »
Fantastic effort at cooking documents Mr chiloba. 

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Re: Iebc hand over 54000 forms..all clean without discrepancies
« Reply #32 on: August 24, 2017, 12:11:10 AM »
What did they sign? Favor me with a copy.

What exactly were NASWA agents signing at Bomas if they had not a accessed all these forms?
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Re: Iebc hand over 54000 forms..all clean without discrepancies
« Reply #33 on: August 24, 2017, 12:39:33 AM »
What did they sign? Favor me with a copy.

What exactly were NASWA agents signing at Bomas if they had not a accessed all these forms?
Before the declaration, Akombe said the results had to be signed first. Are you saying no NASWA agent signed nothing?
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Re: Iebc hand over 54000 forms..all clean without discrepancies
« Reply #34 on: August 24, 2017, 01:01:54 AM »
What did they sign? Favor me with a copy.

What exactly were NASWA agents signing at Bomas if they had not a accessed all these forms?
Before the declaration, Akombe said the results had to be signed first. Are you saying no NASWA agent signed nothing?

If NASA agents did not see the forms, they would not be able to sign them.
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Re: Iebc hand over 54000 forms..all clean without discrepancies
« Reply #35 on: August 24, 2017, 03:57:23 AM »
The only way to avoid discarding these thousands of Form 34s in NASA's possession from the Court's consideration would be to contend, and prove, that NASA forged these forms.

Salim Lone, Adviser,
NASA Presidential candidate Raila Odinga


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Re: Iebc hand over 54000 forms..all clean without discrepancies
« Reply #36 on: August 24, 2017, 04:19:25 AM »
Can form 34b cure a defective form 34a. I do believe Jubilee forged most of presidential forms in central and rv. Raila should just get on with mass action

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Re: Iebc hand over 54000 forms..all clean without discrepancies
« Reply #37 on: August 24, 2017, 06:26:45 AM »
What did they sign? Favor me with a copy.

What exactly were NASWA agents signing at Bomas if they had not a accessed all these forms?
Before the declaration, Akombe said the results had to be signed first. Are you saying no NASWA agent signed nothing?

If NASA agents did not see the forms, they would not be able to sign them.
Confused.
They were not at Bomas to sign 34As but to verify preparation of 34C from 34Bs.  Did they signed off 34C without either 34Bs or 34As? Or did they sign at all?

There was an elaborate signing ceremony by agents before declaration
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Re: Iebc hand over 54000 forms..all clean without discrepancies
« Reply #38 on: August 24, 2017, 08:49:35 AM »
Can form 34b cure a defective form 34a. I do believe Jubilee forged most of presidential forms in central and rv. Raila should just get on with mass action


And the plan is to use korti bandia to legitimise the heist

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Re: Iebc hand over 54000 forms..all clean without discrepancies
« Reply #39 on: August 24, 2017, 09:08:55 AM »
Let just say the world has conspired against a Raila win -
And the plan is to use korti bandia to legitimise the heist