Dr Ndoom now predicts bloodsheed after his man Raila loses

[RV Pundit]

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After waiting for economic doom that hasn't come - he has now gone ahead to predict that kenya will burn..if his man Raila doesn't get the job...as all indicators are showing he won't.
http://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2017/07/03/kot-irked-after-david-ndii-says-kenya-will-burn-if-uhuru-wins-election_c1589909
Look at his twitter - I think he's gone crazy.
https://twitter.com/davidndii?lang=en

[Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants]

If one does not conveniently ignore the "if elections are rigged" qualifier, then he doesn't sound so crazy.

[RV Pundit]

If election are rigged - of course supreme court is discredited - right? and we should just burn this country. I mean you're another doom guy who wanted kenyan to burn you said the last guy should put the lights off - but 10yrs later kenya is moving ahead pretty fast.

If one does not conveniently ignore the "if elections are rigged" qualifier, then he doesn't sound so crazy.

[Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants]

If election are rigged - of course supreme court is discredited - right? and we should just burn this country. I mean you're another doom guy who wanted kenyan to burn you said the last guy should put the lights off - but 10yrs later kenya is moving ahead pretty fast.

If one does not conveniently ignore the "if elections are rigged" qualifier, then he doesn't sound so crazy.

It's not that complicated.  The guy is saying that rigging cannot be tolerated and the jubilant is shitting his pants.

[Omollo]

He did not predict. He stated that if Jubilee steals, there will be fire. Which I have long said here and you cited the tribal macho index to dismiss it. According to your index, Kales are most courageous and without them no burning

[Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants]

He did not predict. He stated that if Jubilee steals, there will be fire. Which I have long said here and you cited the tribal macho index to dismiss it. According to your index, Kales are most courageous and without them no burning

It's not rocket science.  Rigging cannot be normalized without being a serious threat to stability.

[RV Pundit]

If election are rigged - Supreme Court is waiting for your petition - if not - the country will not burn - because security force are more than prepared to deal with your stones. I don't see how this country cannot burn just because Raila has not been elected PORK.

He did not predict. He stated that if Jubilee steals, there will be fire. Which I have long said here and you cited the tribal macho index to dismiss it. According to your index, Kales are most courageous and without them no burning

[Omollo]

we recall the Accept and move on crap. We know the mega bribe from NBK which money was ferried on land rovers by Iringo and Kimemia. No thank you. You cheat, we burn. Nobody will lie down to be screwed.

If election are rigged - Supreme Court is waiting for your petition - if not - the country will not burn - because security force are more than prepared to deal with your stones.

He did not predict. He stated that if Jubilee steals, there will be fire. Which I have long said here and you cited the tribal macho index to dismiss it. According to your index, Kales are most courageous and without them no burning

[Omollo]

It's not rocket science.  Rigging cannot be normalized without being a serious threat to stability.

Some think we can accept to be colonized by a certain tribe for the rest of our lives. The fact that Pundit and others choose to be useful in the process is not our fault. But elections will have to be credible and verifiable. Any hint of theft and it will be an indicator that the slavery is intended to be permanent. Wont happen.

[RV Pundit]

Okay I am scared now. Really except for the remote possibility security force splitting into tribes; nothing will burn except Kisumu & Kibera. The only loser as I see would be Raila, Kalonzo and MaDVD. Weta has plan B and for rest of country - with devolution - already taking 35% of money and power - that already reduce the risk of a winner-take-all.

we recall the Accept and move on crap. We know the mega bribe from NBK which money was ferried on land rovers by Iringo and Kimemia. No thank you. You cheat, we burn. Nobody will lie down to be screwed.

[Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants]

If election are rigged - Supreme Court is waiting for your petition - if not - the country will not burn - because security force are more than prepared to deal with your stones.

He did not predict. He stated that if Jubilee steals, there will be fire. Which I have long said here and you cited the tribal macho index to dismiss it. According to your index, Kales are most courageous and without them no burning

That is how it is supposed to work out.  But it should not be treated as a license for rigging.

[RV Pundit]

 2013- no evidence of rigging presented - this year how would you know it's been rigged? As of now IEBC are fairly and freely conducting election. I don't see Uhuru needing to rig when MOAS & Opinion polls are showing him winning big! If anybody need to rig - it's Raila. If kenya vote as tribal as always UhuRuto are winning.

That is how it is supposed to work out.  But it should not be treated as a license for rigging.

[Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants]

2013- no evidence of rigging presented - this year how would you know it's been rigged? As of now IEBC are fairly and freely conducting election. I don't see Uhuru needing to rig when MOAS & Opinion polls are showing him winning big! If anybody need to rig - it's Raila. If kenya vote as tribal as always UhuRuto are winning.

That is how it is supposed to work out.  But it should not be treated as a license for rigging.

The point is not to make rigging a habit - regardless of what happened in 2013.  Because once the legal process becomes a channel for legitimizing it - not far fetched in Kenya - other options begin to acquire greater appeal.

In fact, there should be serious consequences, akin to treason, attached to rigging a Presidential election.

[RV Pundit]

I agree. It very hard to rig with max votes per polling station @500 and with electronic transmission of results. I think anybody planning to rig is not serious. It going to be hard to hide any rigging.

The point is not to make rigging a habit - regardless of what happened in 2013.  Because once the legal process becomes a channel for legitimizing it - not far fetched in Kenya - other options begin to acquire greater appeal.

In fact, there should be serious consequences, akin to treason, attached to rigging a Presidential election.

[Kichwa]

Pundit reminds me of the days when we thought the earth was the only planet and that it was the center of the universe.   He resides in a jubilee universe and thinks Jubilee is the only reality in Kenyan politics.  Let me reiterate what Dr. Ndii has said, "Jubilee better not steal the elections".  NASA has put into place enough markers that will indicate to them whether the elections are free and fair or rigged. Rigged elections includes a rigged judiciary like the 2013 Supreme Court decision which made Mutunga fade into oblivion.  All NASA supporters agree that we will accept fair results but reject rigged elections and a rigged judiciary.  The combination of experience from 2007 and 2013 are very powerful.  In 2007 it was taken by force and in 2013 it was stolen cleverly and then the court was muscled  into submission.  This time NASA will not accept either.  What Pundit is not repeating is that NASA has also pledged that it  will accept defeat free and fair.  The notion that a few people will control the Kalenjin and the Kikuyu tribes with money and tribal propaganda and rule Kenya for years is not attainable. Hiyo tuu.

2013- no evidence of rigging presented - this year how would you know it's been rigged? As of now IEBC are fairly and freely conducting election. I don't see Uhuru needing to rig when MOAS & Opinion polls are showing him winning big! If anybody need to rig - it's Raila. If kenya vote as tribal as always UhuRuto are winning.

That is how it is supposed to work out.  But it should not be treated as a license for rigging.

The point is not to make rigging a habit - regardless of what happened in 2013.  Because once the legal process becomes a channel for legitimizing it - not far fetched in Kenya - other options begin to acquire greater appeal.

In fact, there should be serious consequences, akin to treason, attached to rigging a Presidential election.

[RV Pundit]

This unfortunately will happen for next 20-30yrs in continuation of the last 50yrs - unless GEMA+Kalenjin become stupid & break up. They just need to add Somalis+Boranas+Maasai to this alliance and it's bullet proof.

The notion that a few people will control the Kalenjin and the Kikuyu tribes with money and tribal propaganda and rule Kenya for years is not attainable. Hiyo tuu.

2013- no evidence of rigging presented - this year how would you know it's been rigged? As of now IEBC are fairly and freely conducting election. I don't see Uhuru needing to rig when MOAS & Opinion polls are showing him winning big! If anybody need to rig - it's Raila. If kenya vote as tribal as always UhuRuto are winning.

That is how it is supposed to work out.  But it should not be treated as a license for rigging.

The point is not to make rigging a habit - regardless of what happened in 2013.  Because once the legal process becomes a channel for legitimizing it - not far fetched in Kenya - other options begin to acquire greater appeal.

In fact, there should be serious consequences, akin to treason, attached to rigging a Presidential election.

[Kichwa]

Of course pundit!  the bubble is still intact. 

This unfortunately will happen for next 20-30yrs in continuation of the last 50yrs - unless GEMA+Kalenjin become stupid & break up. They just need to add Somalis+Boranas+Maasai to this alliance and it's bullet proof.

The notion that a few people will control the Kalenjin and the Kikuyu tribes with money and tribal propaganda and rule Kenya for years is not attainable. Hiyo tuu.

2013- no evidence of rigging presented - this year how would you know it's been rigged? As of now IEBC are fairly and freely conducting election. I don't see Uhuru needing to rig when MOAS & Opinion polls are showing him winning big! If anybody need to rig - it's Raila. If kenya vote as tribal as always UhuRuto are winning.

That is how it is supposed to work out.  But it should not be treated as a license for rigging.

The point is not to make rigging a habit - regardless of what happened in 2013.  Because once the legal process becomes a channel for legitimizing it - not far fetched in Kenya - other options begin to acquire greater appeal.

In fact, there should be serious consequences, akin to treason, attached to rigging a Presidential election.

[Omollo]

When Michuki, Kibaki etc were planning to steal elections in 2007, we were told by a foreign intelligence service that they had named Kibera and Kisumu. Pity Pundit should repeat that. They pumped soldiers in Kisumu and the killings were horrendous.

In event the violence erupted elsewhere.

Here again we have the same stupid reasoning which is based on the following highly lobotomized thinking:

1. ONLY Luos are against the lovely and wonderful Dynamic Duo of Uhuru and Ruto
2. Luhyas, Coastals, Kambas are not really in it and in fact love to be pissed on by Uhuru and Ruto whose piss they find as tasty as Roiko Mchuzi mix soup. They will gladly accept to see their votes stolen and given to the Lovely Duo
3. Luos are by nature cowards and without the Kalenjin in 2007, Kibaki would have annihilated them.

This is the most stupid reasoning which a person like me who has witnessed a zillion conflicts and can see one developing and tell you exactly how it will develop and end find beyond pitiful to even contemplate.

If Pundit has access, let him advise Ruto and company to bend over backwards to conduct credible elections. The alternative will be a disaster for kenya because nobody is ready to be colonized by another tribe or tribes.

Okay I am scared now. Really except for the remote possibility security force splitting into tribes; nothing will burn except Kisumu & Kibera. The only loser as I see would be Raila, Kalonzo and MaDVD. Weta has plan B and for rest of country - with devolution - already taking 35% of money and power - that already reduce the risk of a winner-take-all.

[Kichwa]

Pundit keeps on changing the goal post.  When it suits him Kenyans vote only on tribal lines, then again, ouru will peel off certain small but significant votes from other tribes  to reach his 50% plus goals easily.  Fair enough.  However, when someone makes the same argument in favor of NASA, he rejects it.  As far as he is concerned,   NASA's votes cannot grow beyond the tribal votes he has conveniently assigned to them but somehow jubilee can.   NASA Crowds in Taraka nithi or Kericho or Bomet are fake-unreliable and means nothing but Jubilee crowds in Bukusu, Nyamira, Machakos are indications that  Jubilee is gaining grounds in opposition strongholds.  How do you reason with rabid partisan masquerading as a social scientist.

When Michuki, Kibaki etc were planning to steal elections in 2007, we were told by a foreign intelligence service that they had named Kibera and Kisumu. Pity Pundit should repeat that. They pumped soldiers in Kisumu and the killings were horrendous.

In event the violence erupted elsewhere.

Here again we have the same stupid reasoning which is based on the following highly lobotomized thinking:

1. ONLY Luos are against the lovely and wonderful Dynamic Duo of Uhuru and Ruto
2. Luhyas, Coastals, Kambas are not really in it and in fact love to be pissed on by Uhuru and Ruto whose piss they find as tasty as Roiko Mchuzi mix soup. They will gladly accept to see their votes stolen and given to the Lovely Duo
3. Luos are by nature cowards and without the Kalenjin in 2007, Kibaki would have annihilated them.



This is the most stupid reasoning which a person like me who has witnessed a zillion conflicts and can see one developing and tell you exactly how it will develop and end find beyond pitiful to even contemplate.

If Pundit has access, let him advise Ruto and company to bend over backwards to conduct credible elections. The alternative will be a disaster for kenya because nobody is ready to be colonized by another tribe or tribes.

Okay I am scared now. Really except for the remote possibility security force splitting into tribes; nothing will burn except Kisumu & Kibera. The only loser as I see would be Raila, Kalonzo and MaDVD. Weta has plan B and for rest of country - with devolution - already taking 35% of money and power - that already reduce the risk of a winner-take-all.

[Omollo]

When Spinning came in to fashion, I was a young ambitious man in an international university. I signed up to audit their lectures. Somewhere along the way I wanted to formally join but the regulations did not allow.

One of the small things I learned is that to be credible allow yourself to lose from time to time and admit errors. It was referred to as deliberate shooting in the foot so the enemy won't shoot you in the heart.

Our friend belongs to the old school or deny, deny and deny. When caught, deny, deny and deny some more. That ended with the likes of Henry Kissinger who could also control Information flow totally.

You attempt that today and you become the laughing stock of the world. When you lie know that some kid somewhere is watching and will counter that lie within seconds even before you sit down. A video, photo, news report or just a live interview with the affected person would soon be running on a double screen ridiculing you. I think the development of the internet and social media lately just made lots of things obsolete.

The IEBC put out a corrupt database online. Withing minutes all the dirt was oozing out. They shut down the SMS service and then the online portal. They were overwhelmed and shamed.

I was bemused with Pundit trying to mislead people that the IEBC was not hosted at Safaricom. Some of the stuff he wrote exposed him rather badly and I decided not to pursue.

What we have is a gang that thinks the old style. They are thinking force. They are thinking of setting up a centre to mark ballots and deliver them to selected storage. They are planning to bribe agents and election officials. They are hooping to publish fake results as they did in 2007 and 2013. That is how it has always worked and they believe it will work the same way.

The NIS listens to all the phones, knows what Raila is planning. They make counter plans. They bribe key persons in opposition to calm things down. Has it not always worked`???? They have the cash. They just asked for and got an extra 3 billions to use to rig elections. Who can beat that...

They better pay attention when the youth sing "Vindu Vichenjanga" "Mambo yabadilika"

Pundit keeps on changing the goal post.  When it suits him Kenyans vote only on tribal lines, then again, ouru will peel off certain small but significant votes from other tribes  to reach his 50% plus goals easily.  Fair enough.  However, when someone makes the same argument in favor of NASA, he rejects it.  As far as he is concerned,   NASA's votes cannot grow beyond the tribal votes he has conveniently assigned to them but somehow jubilee can.   NASA Crowds in Taraka nithi or Kericho or Bomet are fake-unreliable and means nothing but Jubilee crowds in Bukusu, Nyamira, Machakos are indications that  Jubilee is gaining grounds in opposition strongholds.  How do you reason with rabid partisan masquerading as a social scientist.