EAAC chair Kinisu also "corrupt" - seem we cannot find a clean kenyan

[RV Pundit]

This resignation shows we are getting somewhere.

[Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants]

There are some things in The Fatherland I simply fail to understand. May be too many years in other people's countries has that sort of outcome.

We have senior policemen confessing to running wide and deep cartels collecting money in a pyramid like formation. These stories are appearing in newspapers having been stated before a lawful Constitutional Tribunal.

On the other hand we have the Kenya Revenue Authority; The Kenya Anti-Corruption Commission (ignore the Ethics portion for now anyway); The Judiciary (whose suo moto powers have never once been tested or practiced); The executive (which continues to declare its commitment to end corruption; Parliament (what can I say? Two houses of fully paid grown ups); Assets Recovery Unit (with unlimited powers and access to the courts and above all The Director of Public Prosecutions. I may add we have a self declared Opus Dei (Catholic probably God fearing as well) Central Bank Governor?

Any one of these can launch investigations independent of the Kavuludi Kangaroo tribunal.

Nothing is happening...

Yes.  A lot of offices and officers that can technically go after crooks.  To me, the biggest and most powerful and most utterly useless?  DPP and Kenya police.  In an ideal(even just normal) situation, they are all that a country needs.

[Gumzo]

This resignation shows we are getting somewhere.

This resignation means nothing and you know it Mr Pundit, because I know you are not an idiot
The forces of corruption are simply going to appoint another compromised individual whom they
can "work with" to maintaining the whole "fighting corruption" charade 

the existence of EACC is an act of corruption !!!

There is no way an individual who seriously means to fight corruption is going to be
appointed by the corrupt appointing authority. 
in short, thieves NEVER take themselves to the cops

[RV Pundit]

Don't be cynical. This is not discrete but continous struggle...where we will make progress and regress along the way as is natural. It not either corruption or no corruption. It more or less corruption. The fact that media,mps, investigating agencies and public applied enough pressure to kick out Kinisu barely months in...shows we are getting somewhere. The next guy will be better than Kinisu. He'll not be squeaky clean but at least they'll do more digging or vetting before their appointment. EACC have come along way from when Moi appointed drug baron to be the head of one. That was cynical moi move.

This resignation means nothing and you know it Mr Pundit, because I know you are not an idiot
The forces of corruption are simply going to appoint another compromised individual whom they
can "work with" to maintaining the whole "fighting corruption" charade 

the existence of EACC is an act of corruption !!!

There is no way an individual who seriously means to fight corruption is going to be
appointed by the corrupt appointing authority. 
in short, thieves NEVER take themselves to the cops

[Nefertiti]

I agree it is progressive not absolute. But when a CS resigns over serious corruption allegations, joins the ruling party and declares her run for county governor we are in trouble. Public outrage, nay shame, should dictate her place. Expect dead silence from EACC over thieves running for office.

[Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants]

This resignation shows we are getting somewhere.

This resignation means nothing and you know it Mr Pundit, because I know you are not an idiot
The forces of corruption are simply going to appoint another compromised individual whom they
can "work with" to maintaining the whole "fighting corruption" charade 

the existence of EACC is an act of corruption !!!

There is no way an individual who seriously means to fight corruption is going to be
appointed by the corrupt appointing authority. 
in short, thieves NEVER take themselves to the cops

An ugly morsel of truth.  But the truth nevertheless.  As long as Sam Gichuru, who has already plead gulity in another court, as low hanging a fruit as one can find anywhere,  remains unmolested with zero risk of being brought to book, I am not yet ready to be fooled by all the noises going on.

[Omollo]

If you enforce Chapter 6 lots of people will have very long days and weeks.

Robina, if you have not read Chinua Achebe's The Trouble with Nigeria, I urge you to do it.

The trouble with Nigeria is the very same we find in Kenya. When a political demagogue finds himself in trouble and realizing that the law will deal with him mercilessly, he transforms legal problems into political issues. Now they no longer have to be demagogues?

1. Mudavadi made a deal with Kibaki to betray ODM in 2007 and stay out of prison. They informed him that though he was ODM Deputy, they would get rid of him. We thought it was a joke. Mudavadi went AWOL during the entire fiasco. It was WSR who put up a fight. It took us a while to understand why he was never targeted the way WSR and Raila were. Any doubts evaporated when Kibaki pushed him to succeed him
2. You have Onyonka prostituting himself to Jubilee to avoid going to prison. I believe Tobiko is deliberately leaving out crucial evidence to ensure he goes free
3. You have Obure going to Jubilee - even though he knows he will suffer politically - to avoid prison for corruption
4. Am told Kimunya is making a comeback after prosecutorial wilful incompetence.

So Waiguru is following a well beaten path.

Am ranting but let me add this:

1. The road to political office passes through (a) Prison cell brought on by GoK (b) Prison cell or such brought on by participation in some mega corruption, with your position made commensurate with the amount you stole. Thus when Mudavadi assisted Pattni to steal billions (before the wife washed it all away) he also bought a check off card to political office. He has been running mate to Uhuru and Raila. He has been fronted by both Moi and Kibaki.

2. Kenyans cheer big thieves. They narrate stories of how these "clever" people stole government money and became rich. Kenyans do not mind a person stealing billions, serving time (to ostensibly "pay for it") and return to the village to grab his Kingship.

In conclusion, we are a bunch of primitive tribal infidels.

[Omollo]

Termie

Gichuru is being "assisted". Justice Madan once let off Stanley Githunguri for theft after he succeeded in drawing out the case. That ruling has saved many including Pattni. Gichuru is aiming for that. I believe he has already hit the mark and can simply get the proper judge to throw out the case and publish the ruling when some Westgate like terror is on.

The DPP shall rattle the saber and speak of appealing. He won't

[Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants]

Termie

Gichuru is being "assisted". Justice Madan once let off Stanley Githunguri for theft after he succeeded in drawing out the case. That ruling has saved many including Pattni. Gichuru is aiming for that. I believe he has already hit the mark and can simply get the proper judge to throw out the case and publish the ruling when some Westgate like terror is on.

The DPP shall rattle the saber and speak of appealing. He won't

You are talking the extradition case right?  For me, the real crazy bit about the DPP is not even the fake appeals or willful incompetence.  But rather why can't he open up a new case against Gichuru totally separate from the extradition charade, using his own company's admission of guilt in Jersey?  I am not aware of any legal barriers preventing him from doing that.

[Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants]

If you enforce Chapter 6 lots of people will have very long days and weeks.

Robina, if you have not read Chinua Achebe's The Trouble with Nigeria, I urge you to do it.

The trouble with Nigeria is the very same we find in Kenya. When a political demagogue finds himself in trouble and realizing that the law will deal with him mercilessly, he transforms legal problems into political issues. Now they no longer have to be demagogues?

1. Mudavadi made a deal with Kibaki to betray ODM in 2007 and stay out of prison. They informed him that though he was ODM Deputy, they would get rid of him. We thought it was a joke. Mudavadi went AWOL during the entire fiasco. It was WSR who put up a fight. It took us a while to understand why he was never targeted the way WSR and Raila were. Any doubts evaporated when Kibaki pushed him to succeed him
2. You have Onyonka prostituting himself to Jubilee to avoid going to prison. I believe Tobiko is deliberately leaving out crucial evidence to ensure he goes free
3. You have Obure going to Jubilee - even though he knows he will suffer politically - to avoid prison for corruption
4. Am told Kimunya is making a comeback after prosecutorial wilful incompetence.

So Waiguru is following a well beaten path.

Am ranting but let me add this:

1. The road to political office passes through (a) Prison cell brought on by GoK (b) Prison cell or such brought on by participation in some mega corruption, with your position made commensurate with the amount you stole. Thus when Mudavadi assisted Pattni to steal billions (before the wife washed it all away) he also bought a check off card to political office. He has been running mate to Uhuru and Raila. He has been fronted by both Moi and Kibaki.

2. Kenyans cheer big thieves. They narrate stories of how these "clever" people stole government money and became rich. Kenyans do not mind a person stealing billions, serving time (to ostensibly "pay for it") and return to the village to grab his Kingship.

In conclusion, we are a bunch of primitive tribal infidels.

I saw her story here http://www.nation.co.ke/news/politics/Anne-Waiguru-denies-stealing-from-NYS-/1064-3363552-oov00t/index.html.  She insists she was removed from NYS because of her delivery.  That she saved the government money.  A good prosecutor could have looked at her case and basically ended her story a while back.  Give Kaburu a plea-bargain, catch the big thief - for all we know Kaburu used up all the peanuts they gave her to play her part - nothing worth wasting state resources on.  No need for EACC.  And whatever investigations they seem to be always carrying out that lead to nothing.

She is now running for governor in Kirinyaga.  People are  likely to line up and defiantly cast their votes for her. 

[Omollo]

Anne Waiguru planned to be President. She has not learned from her mistakes. She is busy adding to them.

When you are walking and you slip and fall, leave the beaten path and walk through the bus or else the next fall breaks your neck.

[Nefertiti]

If you enforce Chapter 6 lots of people will have very long days and weeks.

Robina, if you have not read Chinua Achebe's The Trouble with Nigeria, I urge you to do it.

The trouble with Nigeria is the very same we find in Kenya. When a political demagogue finds himself in trouble and realizing that the law will deal with him mercilessly, he transforms legal problems into political issues. Now they no longer have to be demagogues?

1. Mudavadi made a deal with Kibaki to betray ODM in 2007 and stay out of prison. They informed him that though he was ODM Deputy, they would get rid of him. We thought it was a joke. Mudavadi went AWOL during the entire fiasco. It was WSR who put up a fight. It took us a while to understand why he was never targeted the way WSR and Raila were. Any doubts evaporated when Kibaki pushed him to succeed him
2. You have Onyonka prostituting himself to Jubilee to avoid going to prison. I believe Tobiko is deliberately leaving out crucial evidence to ensure he goes free
3. You have Obure going to Jubilee - even though he knows he will suffer politically - to avoid prison for corruption
4. Am told Kimunya is making a comeback after prosecutorial wilful incompetence.

So Waiguru is following a well beaten path.

Am ranting but let me add this:

1. The road to political office passes through (a) Prison cell brought on by GoK (b) Prison cell or such brought on by participation in some mega corruption, with your position made commensurate with the amount you stole. Thus when Mudavadi assisted Pattni to steal billions (before the wife washed it all away) he also bought a check off card to political office. He has been running mate to Uhuru and Raila. He has been fronted by both Moi and Kibaki.

2. Kenyans cheer big thieves. They narrate stories of how these "clever" people stole government money and became rich. Kenyans do not mind a person stealing billions, serving time (to ostensibly "pay for it") and return to the village to grab his Kingship.

In conclusion, we are a bunch of primitive tribal infidels.

I saw her story here http://www.nation.co.ke/news/politics/Anne-Waiguru-denies-stealing-from-NYS-/1064-3363552-oov00t/index.html.  She insists she was removed from NYS because of her delivery.  That she saved the government money.  A good prosecutor could have looked at her case and basically ended her story a while back.  Give Kaburu a plea-bargain, catch the big thief - for all we know Kaburu used up all the peanuts they gave her to play her part - nothing worth wasting state resources on.  No need for EACC.  And whatever investigations they seem to be always carrying out that lead to nothing.

She is now running for governor in Kirinyaga.  People are  likely to line up and defiantly cast their votes for her.

Why do you demand miracles of poor Tobiko? a man with topnotch papers, top honors, magna cum laude, name it. That is simply above his weight.

[Omollo]

Many of these people who have had looting allegations against them will run for office and win in 2017

— Olé (@Olez) August 30, 2016

[RV Pundit]

There we go with mixing issues. First it rather obvious nothing stops someone from seeking elective office unless they've been proven guilty and have exhausted all appeals & reviews. So Waiguru and anyone else if free to seek any elective seat. As for Tobiko - I think he has done a decent job.

[Empedocles]

This resignation shows we are getting somewhere.

Seriously?

How many have been indicted?

[RV Pundit]

Empo,This is part of getting somewhere. You begin by exposing it. Then you illuminate it and understand the depth of the hole we are in - and start crawling back up. We know understand the depth of traffic police corruption. Waiguru heist is well known. I am dissappointed he has not been charged yet...but the other guys have been, their assets seized and name.

We are moving forward...but NOT just to fast enough. And this I say is where Jubilee have completely failed. They have not done enough.

Uhuru has to seize this opportunity - so he can truly go down as one of our greatest PORK. Already with SGR - he is up there. If by 10yrs he would have pulled out Road Annuity,LAPSET, SGR, GALANA and KONZA city - he'll go down as one of the great - if he reign on corruption - he'll be the greatest.

This resignation shows we are getting somewhere.

Seriously?

How many have been indicted?

[Gumzo]

Empo,This is part of getting somewhere. You begin by exposing it. Then you illuminate it and understand the depth of the hole we are in - and start crawling back up. We know understand the depth of traffic police corruption. Waiguru heist is well known. I am dissappointed he has not been charged yet...but the other guys have been, their assets seized and name.

We are moving forward...but NOT just to fast enough. And this I say is where Jubilee have completely failed. They have not done enough.

Uhuru has to seize this opportunity - so he can truly go down as one of our greatest PORK. Already with SGR - he is up there. If by 10yrs he would have pulled out Road Annuity,LAPSET, SGR, GALANA and KONZA city - he'll go down as one of the great - if he reign on corruption - he'll be the greatest.

This kind of statements make me very angry !!!
If I was face to face with someone making this kind of statement, I would rain makofi na mateke on them hapo hapo mara hio hio
anybody who is not a bloody idiot would know by now that Uhuru and his GOK have absolutely no option to reign in on corruption
because it (corruption), along with tribalisim and impunity are the main support pillars their leadership stands on. 
if any one of those pillars is removed...their leadership falls...so asking Uhuru to reign in on corruption is asking him to leave office.




 

[RVtitem]

Empo,This is part of getting somewhere. You begin by exposing it. Then you illuminate it and understand the depth of the hole we are in - and start crawling back up. We know understand the depth of traffic police corruption. Waiguru heist is well known. I am dissappointed he has not been charged yet...but the other guys have been, their assets seized and name.

We are moving forward...but NOT just to fast enough. And this I say is where Jubilee have completely failed. They have not done enough.

Uhuru has to seize this opportunity - so he can truly go down as one of our greatest PORK. Already with SGR - he is up there. If by 10yrs he would have pulled out Road Annuity,LAPSET, SGR, GALANA and KONZA city - he'll go down as one of the great - if he reign on corruption - he'll be the greatest.

This kind of statements make me very angry !!!
If I was face to face with someone making this kind of statement, I would rain makofi na mateke on them hapo hapo mara hio hio
anybody who is not a bloody idiot would know by now that Uhuru and his GOK have absolutely no option to reign in on corruption
because it (corruption), along with tribalisim and impunity are the main support pillars their leadership stands on. 
if any one of those pillars is removed...their leadership falls...so asking Uhuru to reign in on corruption is asking him to leave office.

Precisely. But when is the tipping point for a revolution against elites by the low classes? This is the only viable route for kenya to win war against graft. The leaders will never sort out mess, unless people take law with their own hands.

[Gumzo]

Precisely. But when is the tipping point for a revolution against elites by the low classes? This is the only viable route for kenya to win war against graft. The leaders will never sort out mess, unless people take law with their own hands.

Thats where the pillar of tribalisim comes in and works like a charm. i.e the entire populace is as  divided (along tribal lines) as the corrupt leadership would wish them to be
e.g the tyranny of numbers (TON) tribes = Kiuk/Kale would fight viciously against any revolt because its currently their time to eat. Other then that there is what can only be described
as the stupidity of the masses i.e the vast majority of the populace  (lower classes) are too stupid to be angered by the prevailing state of corruption to get to any tipping point.
plus the now deeply ingrained general societal moral decay that makes the corruption/misrule  OK and acceptable 

 

[Empedocles]

There's one thing about our so-called leaders which always makes me realize what wananichi are up against:

Our leaders, even when they're on bitterly opposing sides, will never ever rat each out.

A small example: RAO, that pillar of democracy and accountability, places his own blood brother in the hornets nest (i.e. the finance ministry) during the GCG. Said brother notices absolutely nothing during his 5 year tenure. No rumors, no innuendos, zilch. Oburu's mouth is sealed as tight as Waiguru's mouth, along with all the other ODM ministers, etc.

Nothing.