EAAC chair Kinisu also "corrupt" - seem we cannot find a clean kenyan

[RV Pundit]

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[Empedocles]

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Having a society which very generously rewards corruption brings the best and most scrupleless out of the woodwork.

How anybody can expect otherwise is baffling.

[Simanova]

I sinned by keeping quiet or was I busy. I know this bastard. He is one of the most corrupt bastards in Kenya. I ran in to him after he cleared an impropriety that we (as the donor) had flagged). I was shell shocked and it would the last time I ever took up anything to do with Kenya while I worked there. I did some checking and learned that he was out to be a dollar billionaire before 60 or so.

There is something about his name and background. I do not recall but it is possible he has changed his name to disguise his background.

[Georgesoros]

And he is in charge of Corruption!!
If Uhuru had grabbed corrruption by the balls like he did his case with ICC, we will be in a much safer country.

[hk]

I have to say I listened to his press conference in the morning and the allegations seemed a little far fetched but hey what do I know.

Here is kisero take http://www.nation.co.ke/oped/Opinion/kinisu-survival-will-hinge-on-dexterity-of-political-footwork/-/440808/3301742/-/12hpsay/-/index.html

[MOON Ki]

It is possible---and it would not be surprising if it should turn out to be the case---that this is just the "corruption cartels" fighting back.   But the man needs better arguments to defend himself, and Kisero needs to think a bit more about the defense he has mounted on behalf of the man.   Take this, for example:

In his defence, Kinisu has said that the conflict of interest charge against him cannot stand because all the contracts between Esaki and the National Youth Service were won and performed prior to his appointment as chair of the EACC.

As far as I can tell, the NYS heist mostly took place before his appointment.  So that date is, of itself, not helpful: Is the argument that any theft he might have been involved in before his appointment does not matter?   That his lot were involved in NYS contracts before his appointment does not prove that they were not involved in the heist; if they were then there is an obvious conflict-of-interest if he claims to be looking into the matter.   A better approach might be to argue that neither he nor any persons or organizations connected to him were involved in the heist, and he can do that by providing appropriate details.

The other curious thing here is the timing.   Why is it only now that this guy is telling us about his NYS involvements?   Did he mention them to his Kisero friend their "one-on-one" in April?   Elementary rules of ethics, which he would well be aware of, suggest that he should have been forthcoming much earlier and without any prompting---not when an investigation is started against him.   

[Georgesoros]

Your argument is invalid since the guy is supposed to completely divest from these companies and agencies that he is supposed to investigate. A wrong is a wrong however you look at it. Defending it means you're associating with criminals. It's time to take a stand.

[Nefertiti]

Jubilee is a total failure in fighting graft. Imagine UhuRuto have no anti-corruption strategy because they pretend this is EACC/DPP job. PORK even defended corrupt CS Waiguru before she stepped aside despite his unconditional backing.

CORD should really hammer them on this with proper strategy. Including transparent party financing, wealth declarations, etc. EACC should have power to ban thieves from public office for life. Waiguru should clear her name by declaring wealth, etc not running for governor to loot more cash. Same for Ngilu.

[Nefertiti]

The endless problems at EACC and incompetent DPP just show UhuRuto's zero leadership. Once it became clear the current setup is ineffective it is now a leadership (PORK) job.

http://www.nation.co.ke/news/I-will-not-resign-EACC-chair-Kinisu-says/-/1056/3300878/-/n9f2jbz/-/index.html

[MOON Ki]

Getting "better" by the minute:

http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/article/2000209179/eacc-boss-fights-off-claims-as-new-sh246m-payment-emerges

One wonders what the "vetting" people look into ...

Still, one "good" thing about all this is that the lexicon has had new life injected into it.   "Money has been poured to finish our people" was getting kind of tired.   It is now all about "corruption cartels", fighting back or doing this, that, and the other.    And please make me governor.   

[Georgesoros]

A bigger problem is CORD has been passive in looking for and making loud noises about corrupt deals.
The whole system STINKS!!!

The endless problems at EACC and incompetent DPP just show UhuRuto's zero leadership. Once it became clear the current setup is ineffective it is now a leadership (PORK) job.

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[RV Pundit]

Robina,
I think Uhuru did wake up from slumber last year and fired 170 public official who were under investigation by EACC. These include five ministers (Ngilu, Kazumbi,Chirchir, Kamau and guy from Nandi) and many powerful and close alies of UhuRuto. That wasn't easy decision and I hope this would be made a policy. Uhuru also forced out the EACC commisioners and gave us Kinisu guy who on face value looked "clean" - impeechable CV from PWC but seem to have some dirt now.The good thing Kinisu is now under investigation and may be forced out.

Overally Jubilee scores "C" in the Anti-Corruption. The cabinet is very clean and proffesional. Most of the public appointments are now proffesional picked through a competitive process. But of course we dealing with sitaution where everyone seem corrupt. The contracts and tenders being issued I think still leave a lot to be desired. The security contracts -internal and KDF - certainly smell fishy.

Maybe we should consider hiring non-kenyans for the anti-graft czars.

CORD desperation to create a scandal "EuroBond" clearly shows they are not interested in fighting graft but playing politics.

[Empedocles]

Robina,
I think Uhuru did wake up from slumber last year and fired 170 public official who were under investigation by EACC. These include five ministers (Ngilu, Kazumbi,Chirchir, Kamau and guy from Nandi) and many powerful and close alies of UhuRuto. That wasn't easy decision and I hope this would be made a policy. Uhuru also forced out the EACC commisioners and gave us Kinisu guy who on face value looked "clean" - impeechable CV from PWC but seem to have some dirt now.The good thing Kinisu is now under investigation and may be forced out.

Overally Jubilee scores "C" in the Anti-Corruption. The cabinet is very clean and proffesional. Most of the public appointments are now proffesional picked through a competitive process. But of course we dealing with sitaution where everyone seem corrupt. The contracts and tenders being issued I think still leave a lot to be desired. The security contracts -internal and KDF - certainly smell fishy.

Maybe we should consider hiring non-kenyans for the anti-graft czars.

CORD desperation to create a scandal "EuroBond" clearly shows they are not interested in fighting graft but playing politics.

RV, even you agree that there's massive corruption going on and not a single high level corruption suspect has ever been convicted and jailed.

How do you come up with a grade of "C" then?

The firing by Uhuru of corruption suspects was juts PR, nothing more.

[Nefertiti]

Robina,
I think Uhuru did wake up from slumber last year and fired 170 public official who were under investigation by EACC. These include five ministers (Ngilu, Kazumbi,Chirchir, Kamau and guy from Nandi) and many powerful and close alies of UhuRuto. That wasn't easy decision and I hope this would be made a policy. Uhuru also forced out the EACC commisioners and gave us Kinisu guy who on face value looked "clean" - impeechable CV from PWC but seem to have some dirt now.The good thing Kinisu is now under investigation and may be forced out.

Overally Jubilee scores "C" in the Anti-Corruption. The cabinet is very clean and proffesional. Most of the public appointments are now proffesional picked through a competitive process. But of course we dealing with sitaution where everyone seem corrupt. The contracts and tenders being issued I think still leave a lot to be desired. The security contracts -internal and KDF - certainly smell fishy.

Maybe we should consider hiring non-kenyans for the anti-graft czars.

CORD desperation to create a scandal "EuroBond" clearly shows they are not interested in fighting graft but playing politics.

RV, even you agree that there's massive corruption going on and not a single high level corruption suspect has ever been convicted and jailed.

How do you come up with a grade of "C" then?

The firing by Uhuru of corruption suspects was juts PR, nothing more.

F. Where is UhuRuto wealth declaration?

[RV Pundit]

Firing the likes of Ngilu was not easy. DDP/Judiciary/EACC are independent. I don't know how you can blame Uhuru for their failures. So Uhuru has done something - so he gets a C from me - but could do more from his executive end. He really need Anti-Corruption czar like Githongo without a tape recorder who can advice him on what to do here.

[Simanova]

I wo0uld support you here by adding that ALL NYS procurement was flawed. His company therefore never really "won" any tenders over there. The criteria used to identify suppliers was their ability to pay kickbacks.

I have been in this line of work for a while now and I can tell you 270 million kenya shillings can build a lot of wells. I need not pump it up anybody's brain but simply google the price of water pumps and other things he is supposed to have supplied and see for yourself. Most of this stuff is sourced in China so Alibaba.com would be a perfect starting point.

My take on Jaindi's defence is that YEES, Kinisu is being targeted to stop him from working. However he should have wondered why he was being hired despite having all this baggage.

Moi believed that a "Ruler" needs good and bad people (guess where he got that from). He trained Uhuru.

It is possible---and it would not be surprising if it should turn out to be the case---that this is just the "corruption cartels" fighting back.   But the man needs better arguments to defend himself, and Kisero needs to think a bit more about the defense he has mounted on behalf of the man.   Take this, for example:

In his defence, Kinisu has said that the conflict of interest charge against him cannot stand because all the contracts between Esaki and the National Youth Service were won and performed prior to his appointment as chair of the EACC.

As far as I can tell, the NYS heist mostly took place before his appointment.  So that date is, of itself, not helpful: Is the argument that any theft he might have been involved in before his appointment does not matter?   That his lot were involved in NYS contracts before his appointment does not prove that they were not involved in the heist; if they were then there is an obvious conflict-of-interest if he claims to be looking into the matter.   A better approach might be to argue that neither he nor any persons or organizations connected to him were involved in the heist, and he can do that by providing appropriate details.

The other curious thing here is the timing.   Why is it only now that this guy is telling us about his NYS involvements?   Did he mention them to his Kisero friend their "one-on-one" in April?   Elementary rules of ethics, which he would well be aware of, suggest that he should have been forthcoming much earlier and without any prompting---not when an investigation is started against him.   

[Nefertiti]

There is nothing "independent" from PORK and parliament. If UhuRuto chose corruption and impunity would end starting with useless Tobiko.

Firing the likes of Ngilu was not easy. DDP/Judiciary/EACC are independent. I don't know how you can blame Uhuru for their failures. So Uhuru has done something - so he gets a C from me - but could do more from his executive end. He really need Anti-Corruption czar like Githongo without a tape recorder who can advice him on what to do here.

[Empedocles]

Firing the likes of Ngilu was not easy. DDP/Judiciary/EACC are independent. I don't know how you can blame Uhuru for their failures. So Uhuru has done something - so he gets a C from me - but could do more from his executive end. He really need Anti-Corruption czar like Githongo without a tape recorder who can advice him on what to do here.

The truth is, just like Mutunga said, we have a bandit economy run by thugs.

Uhuru isn't willing to do anything (different from saying he can't). The foundation of impunity was laid down by his father, who made doubly sure that every single institution which should have been responsible for guaranteeing the rule of law was instead used to protect the thieving elite.

Over a half century later, not a single thieving elite has ever been charged, convicted, and sentenced for grand larceny. Not even a token one. The most the public has ever received to pacify them is the infamous "stepping aside" or Uhuru's "firing".

Moi continued it (Fuata Nyayo), so did Kibaki / Raila, and now we have Uhuru doing the same thing.

Facts are impossible to dispute.

From today's Business Daily, here's an institution being used to protect the elite, subverting the rule of law:

http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/EACC-clears-election-chiefs-of--Chickengate--scandal/-/539546/3301876/-/item/1/-/hcacfy/-/index.html

[RV Pundit]

This is NOT entirely true and is self defeatist. We are somewhere. That is why Kinisu with his PWC credential is facing a probe.

The truth is, just like Mutunga said, we have a bandit economy run by thugs.

Uhuru isn't willing to do anything (different from saying he can't). The foundation of impunity was laid down by his father, who made doubly sure that every single institution which should have been responsible for guaranteeing the rule of law was instead used to protect the thieving elite.

Over a half century later, not a single thieving elite has ever been charged, convicted, and sentenced for grand larceny. Not even a token one. The most the public has ever received to pacify them is the infamous "stepping aside" or Uhuru's "firing".

Moi continued it (Fuata Nyayo), so did Kibaki / Raila, and now we have Uhuru doing the same thing.

Facts are impossible to dispute.

From today's Business Daily, here's an institution being used to protect the elite, subverting the rule of law:

[Nefertiti]

100% true. Even Ruto's mighty wisdom seems to end here. Expect flawlessness looting during his tenure.

Firing the likes of Ngilu was not easy. DDP/Judiciary/EACC are independent. I don't know how you can blame Uhuru for their failures. So Uhuru has done something - so he gets a C from me - but could do more from his executive end. He really need Anti-Corruption czar like Githongo without a tape recorder who can advice him on what to do here.

The truth is, just like Mutunga said, we have a bandit economy run by thugs.

Uhuru isn't willing to do anything (different from saying he can't). The foundation of impunity was laid down by his father, who made doubly sure that every single institution which should have been responsible for guaranteeing the rule of law was instead used to protect the thieving elite.

Over a half century later, not a single thieving elite has ever been charged, convicted, and sentenced for grand larceny. Not even a token one. The most the public has ever received to pacify them is the infamous "stepping aside" or Uhuru's "firing".

Moi continued it (Fuata Nyayo), so did Kibaki / Raila, and now we have Uhuru doing the same thing.

Facts are impossible to dispute.

From today's Business Daily, here's an institution being used to protect the elite, subverting the rule of law:

http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/EACC-clears-election-chiefs-of--Chickengate--scandal/-/539546/3301876/-/item/1/-/hcacfy/-/index.html