Simanova:
Before I get into the stuff below, I should let you know that I'm actually on your side. A little story about a little story:
A few years ago, I watched a movie, set in a small Russian town, about some small-time Russian hoodlums. The hoodlums kept complaining that the authorities were always harassing "honest thieves" (themselves) while "criminal bandits" were getting away with everything. According to the former, the differences between the two types were that the "honest thieves" had a sense of moderation, an understanding of the circumstances of the robbed, ...., an applied moral philosophy of theft, if you will. Thus, for example, if "criminal bandits" came upon a little old lady who had just withdrawn her monthly pension, they would beat the crap out of her and grab everything; the "honest thieves", on the other hand, would not indulge in such gratuitous violence and would leave the old lady with at least enough money for bus fare home and a phone call for some help. "Honest thieves" kept the family (wife and kids) aware of, and sometimes involved in, their "business" activities, and major "achievements" were openly celebrated with the local community; "criminal bandits" on the other hand slunk about under the cover of darkness and mystery. Etc. Etc. Etc.
Not too long ago, CJ Mutunga stated that Kenya's is a bandit economy. He was quite right. What's more, that's not about to change anytime soon. Kenyans don't want change badly enough. Yes, they will complain endlessly, but what really bothers them is that it's those other people and their "our man" who's doing all the stealing. The theft itself is never a real issue. And the aforementioned Russians would agree with that---that it need not, of itself, be an issue---but criminal banditry is quite another matter. In these sorts of environment ...
Given all that ... Kenya being Kenya and Kenyans being Kenyans and evolution working at an awfully slow pace:
What I think CORD can bring---and which is why I would support it---is a government of "honest thieves", in place of the present one of "criminal bandits". Theft in Kenya seems inevitable, and all seem to be into it or eagerly wanting in. But does it have to be so crude? Take, for example, the NYS heist. It would be one thing to be told that some clever hacker got into the "theft-proof" computer system and did x, y, and z. But "
someone stole the CEO's password and used it in the middle of the night to add 0s"? That's unnecessarily and thoughtlessly insulting to the public and is the sort of thing that separates "honest thieves" from "criminal bandits".
(Terminator is right, in the essence of his comments, but he needs to appreciate the differences in types of robbers.)
Of course, to form a government, CORD would have to ....
Now, back to your story:
You mock CORD's rallies and insinuate that the leadership is inept and unable to mobilize voters.
You do not provide any concrete evidence of any other political party that has done what you claim CORD is failing to do.
Where did I mock them? I simply pointed out the facts. The "other political party" would be Jubilee in 2013. You didn't see the evidence? CORD needs to stop wailing endlessly about "
we wuz robbed!" and learn something from having been out-organized.
My position is that Uhuru and company are using state resources and agencies to inflate voter lists and that there is no party machinery to mobilize voter registration. You are in effect saying CORD should do what Jubilee is doing while attributing state activities to Jubilee. Well, it is not possible. Proper figures will only be available when we have a credible commission.
If you look carefully at my last comments, I'm not necessarily asking for figures from any commission. I'm asking for CORD's figures----from whatever source---as to how its voter registration is going.
Well, what we are looking for are the voter registration figures for 2007. They were all over the internet and now they are not. If this is untrue then kindly find and post them. I have posted for 2002 and have the 2013 ready. I would remind you the reason for seeking the figures is to show that in 2002 the number of Central voters was nearly half what it became in 2007. The 2013 figures will show a DECLINE in the numbers.
Now it is essential to have them so you can answer some simple questions like why there was a decline. I note your earlier speculative explanation (without the all important 2007 figures) in which you suggested a natural increase. That is how all normal people assume it would be. However the missing figures say a different story as you read in the discussion at nipate.com
I no longer read anything at nipate.com, which is probably just as well, given that the figures in question have been "lost" since you posted them there. Look, until you can supply the 2007 figures, I suggest you refrain from using them in your arguments.
OKOA was one way of working on the said list. CORD was therefore attempting to work on the list. When the IEBC frustrated the referendum, CORD switched gears and decided that the IEBC thieves were indeed the obstacles that had to go.
OKOA was a hopelessly block-headed movement, and I don't just mean "agents" eating CORD money while "registering" phantoms. If someone had asked me, here is what I would have said: It doesn't matter how many millions of signatures you have ... to get a referendum, the IEBC has to be on board. The obvious way to stymie things would be to say it does not have enough have sufficient money or something that require legislative action. For that to happen, parliament has to act. And who controls parliament? CORD did not even get that far, but how did it plan to get around that?
And here's another question: CORD decided IEBC had to go because they frustrated the referendum? Really? The "
we wuz robbed!" from 2013 didn't excite them enough to get moving?
BTW what do you hope to achieve by obtaining the number of eligible voters in CORD strongholds?
I don't hope to achieve anything; but, as I have stated, numbers would provide a more objective basis for a reasonable discussion.
