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Gachagua to Uhuru:Please pick my call.
« on: October 07, 2023, 03:34:22 AM »
Gachagua wants to meet Uhuru Asap,Ruto gave mudavadi more powers and headed to Nyanza.He held meetings with orengo n nyongo (read Raila).He was accompanied by Ichungwa.At the same time,Raila called Gachagua primitive.

Gachagua is alone,Of course Ndindi n Ichungwa want him out of the picture for their future political careers.Ruto is taking advantage of this and isolating Gachagua by heavily funding Mt kenya MPs to oppose him,Lets see how it goes down.

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Re: Gachagua to Uhuru:Please pick my call.
« Reply #1 on: October 07, 2023, 03:44:55 AM »

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Re: Gachagua to Uhuru:Please pick my call.
« Reply #2 on: October 07, 2023, 04:30:03 AM »

1) If Raila forms a pact with Ruto,What will Raila gain?Will he still run in 2027?Are they going to hold a constitutional referendum in 2024 to ensure Raila becomes Prime minister and supports Ruto in 2027?

2) Can Gachagua wage a war against Ruto ?What will he gain?What will be the end game?Maybe a pact with Kalonzo?

Gachagua has even demanded for 10 more constituencies while Wamuchomba has tabled a bill for more CDF to GEMA wards to create a rebellion against ruto.

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Re: Gachagua to Uhuru:Please pick my call.
« Reply #3 on: October 07, 2023, 08:23:36 AM »
When WSR as DP told his audience "tafuteni serikali kwanza ivo ndo mtatatua shida zenu", folks didn't get it or didnt head his message. Now he "has serikali". Flash back, to WSR the lake was never the problem. It is the mountain people who have always felt entitled. When he is done with his 10 years, the landscape will be leveled. Riggy G and Gov Kahiga can see it already coming hence the panic pangs.

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Re: Gachagua to Uhuru:Please pick my call.
« Reply #5 on: October 07, 2023, 10:32:24 AM »
Ruto is being Presidential expected from him . 2 things are very clear . Politics alone cannot salvage Rutos re-election prospects of 2027.
He needs an economy miracle something next to impossible due to misadvising from the Ndiis and secondly He needs to create an environment for youth employment which has been affected by capital flight by investors due to the misadventure of Rutos Economic advisers.
The only option left for him unfortunately is play ball with Raila .Same thing Uhuru did . It has its own consequences though . Like a revolt from Mt Kenya and the majority of supporters who voted for him in 2022.
A referendum is inevitable and as said above Mt Kenya should expect to be betrayed they should ensure they come out as the winners in the referendum . 10 constituencies and one man one shilling approach is not enough . They should look at areas which will ensure they benefit in the real terms and long term .
Ruto and Raila need each other and its about time they get something substantial enriched in the Constitution otherwise they will be in for a rough ride which will make Mois error look like a childsplay.

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Re: Gachagua to Uhuru:Please pick my call.
« Reply #6 on: October 07, 2023, 10:41:41 AM »
Continue playing as Sakaja kosgei inherit Ruto in 2032...gema shoukf play long term...but I don't think they patience..they even think they can threaten Ruto..2027 is beyond done deal...think 2032 n work on it

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Re: Gachagua to Uhuru:Please pick my call.
« Reply #7 on: October 07, 2023, 10:42:58 AM »
Ruto will never lose 2027...incumbents don't lose elections that easily..least of all someone as gifted as Ruto.Ruto will win by 70%

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Re: Gachagua to Uhuru:Please pick my call.
« Reply #8 on: October 07, 2023, 11:37:32 AM »
1) Are we going to have a referendum or parliamentary amendment?

2 ) If Raila Ruto strike deal,Raila becomes prime minister and exits 2027 race,Ruto inherits Coastal Nyanza and Western vote.

3 ) That creates 2007 repeat,Kenya Vs Mt Kenya.

4 ) Incase of such a scenario,Will Gachagua deputize Kalonzo in the 2027 presidential vote?

The most probable here is Raila Ruto deal because Raila is too old and frail to run and win the 2027 election.

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« Reply #9 on: October 07, 2023, 01:10:40 PM »

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« Reply #10 on: October 07, 2023, 01:37:19 PM »
Gachagua is falling into asiminion sore loser spirit. With inability to score quick wins in coffee and milk, he is foolishly falling into his detractors trap. He is fodder to blogs and news vultures. He can't stop feeding them. For once seems he has had a dress down thus the retreat to Inooro (just like ufool) as Hasla was in Nyanza. I think it is first time they are not together.

I have seen no assmio attacks Hasla that harshly. Gachagua should take the cue and retreat till coast clears huko 2025. The ufool he is seeking had roots and could not hack Hasla, sasa ndio watado? Well politicians are not that clever as they appear.

When was Hasla last on Kass FM?
Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one ~ Thomas Paine

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Re: Gachagua to Uhuru:Please pick my call.
« Reply #11 on: October 07, 2023, 01:38:47 PM »
I think Ruto will try n impeach Gachagua.

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« Reply #12 on: October 07, 2023, 02:09:32 PM »
Raila buyout deal is complete, just watch his recent KTN interview. Gachagua is still a nobody and suicidally thinks singing Mt Kenya siege will help him a constituency.

Kalonzo has proved beyond doubts he has no intention of aligning with likes of Gachagua.

Taming Odingaism has great dividends not only politically but economically. In 2002, Kibaki got a tamed Odingaism only to squander the opportunity and we are still bleeding. A tamed Odingaism and a focused Hasla in 2-3 years is enough to rebuild the economy and make hasoras happy.
Some sore losers will be converted, others will still be inconsolable thus all these doomsday scenarios in Hasla's first year.

Hasla has done well sending clear message to Gachagua and Kuria- msiniletee hiyo ujinga. That is leadership.


2 ) If Raila Ruto strike deal,Raila becomes prime minister and exits 2027 race,Ruto inherits Coastal Nyanza and Western vote.

3 ) That creates 2007 repeat, Kenya Vs Mt Kenya.

4 ) Incase of such a scenario, Will Gachagua deputize Kalonzo in the 2027 presidential vote?

The most probable here is Raila Ruto deal because Raila is too old and frail to run and win the 2027 election.
Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one ~ Thomas Paine

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« Reply #13 on: October 07, 2023, 02:28:02 PM »
Ruto might have plans to split mt.kenya 3 way,kiambu Muranga one side,Nyeri the other and mt.kenya east. Gachagua due to his verbal diarrhea unfortunately fails to become kingpin,Kuria ichungwa will fight him already, Ruto knowing he is weak might even replace him in 27 with another GEMA, but main ball is how Baba plays it still far days ahead, Trying to relegate and Isolate GEMA wont work simply because all Kenyans are now united against Ruto.due to economy so that ball cant be played at all, Ruto.will be lucky if he wins in 2027 under todays economics unless he rigs no way he will make it,and then again he relies on GEMA for this, its hard for Ruto but economy is everything now otherwise he looks more delusional or just a charlatan

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Re: Gachagua to Uhuru:Please pick my call.
« Reply #14 on: October 07, 2023, 03:07:10 PM »
Ruto might have plans to split mt.kenya 3 way,kiambu Muranga one side,Nyeri the other and mt.kenya east. Gachagua due to his verbal diarrhea unfortunately fails to become kingpin,Kuria ichungwa will fight him already, Ruto knowing he is weak might even replace him in 27 with another GEMA, but main ball is how Baba plays it still far days ahead, Trying to relegate and Isolate GEMA wont work simply because all Kenyans are now united against Ruto.due to economy so that ball cant be played at all, Ruto.will be lucky if he wins in 2027 under todays economics unless he rigs no way he will make it,and then again he relies on GEMA for this, its hard for Ruto but economy is everything now otherwise he looks more delusional or just a charlatan

Like Gout has said.If Ruto has bought Raila,He has inturn bought the IEBC,Luo,Luhya & Coast.You cant defeat him.He will then go ahead and subdivide GEMA using Ichungwa Ndindi Gachagua Kindiki Factions.

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« Reply #15 on: October 07, 2023, 03:22:22 PM »

Moi was incumbent and lost 2002.
You were the one who always sings Raila was incumbent in 2013 with IEBC in his pocket through Owalo and Hassan but still lost to UhuRuto.
Raila had support on Incumbent in 2022 but still lost .
Ruto is not superhuman you are making same mistake Raila supporters have made since time memorial Ruto just like Raila is not invincible .
Raila lost 2013 and 2022 because of miscalculation . Ruto is miscalculating as we speak .He needs to stop listening to the likes of you and he might get back on track .


Ruto will never lose 2027...incumbents don't lose elections that easily..least of all someone as gifted as Ruto.Ruto will win by 70%

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« Reply #16 on: October 07, 2023, 03:39:01 PM »

Moi was incumbent and lost 2002.
You were the one who always sings Raila was incumbent in 2013 with IEBC in his pocket through Owalo and Hassan but still lost to UhuRuto.
Raila had support on Incumbent in 2022 but still lost .
Ruto is not superhuman you are making same mistake Raila supporters have made since time memorial Ruto just like Raila is not invincible .
Raila lost 2013 and 2022 because of miscalculation . Ruto is miscalculating as we speak .He needs to stop listening to the likes of you and he might get back on track .


Ruto will never lose 2027...incumbents don't lose elections that easily..least of all someone as gifted as Ruto.Ruto will win by 70%
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« Reply #17 on: October 07, 2023, 03:40:26 PM »

Moi was incumbent and lost 2002.
You were the one who always sings Raila was incumbent in 2013 with IEBC in his pocket through Owalo and Hassan but still lost to UhuRuto.
Raila had support on Incumbent in 2022 but still lost .
Ruto is not superhuman you are making same mistake Raila supporters have made since time memorial Ruto just like Raila is not invincible .
Raila lost 2013 and 2022 because of miscalculation . Ruto is miscalculating as we speak .He needs to stop listening to the likes of you and he might get back on track .
Perfectly put, history repeats itself. :D

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« Reply #18 on: October 07, 2023, 03:42:08 PM »
Raila buyout deal is complete, just watch his recent KTN interview. Gachagua is still a nobody and suicidally thinks singing Mt Kenya siege will help him a constituency.

Kalonzo has proved beyond doubts he has no intention of aligning with likes of Gachagua.

Taming Odingaism has great dividends not only politically but economically. In 2002, Kibaki got a tamed Odingaism only to squander the opportunity and we are still bleeding. A tamed Odingaism and a focused Hasla in 2-3 years is enough to rebuild the economy and make hasoras happy.
Some sore losers will be converted, others will still be inconsolable thus all these doomsday scenarios in Hasla's first year.

Hasla has done well sending clear message to Gachagua and Kuria- msiniletee hiyo ujinga. That is leadership.


2 ) If Raila Ruto strike deal,Raila becomes prime minister and exits 2027 race,Ruto inherits Coastal Nyanza and Western vote.

3 ) That creates 2007 repeat, Kenya Vs Mt Kenya.

4 ) Incase of such a scenario, Will Gachagua deputize Kalonzo in the 2027 presidential vote?

The most probable here is Raila Ruto deal because Raila is too old and frail to run and win the 2027 election.
gout you're intelligent. Raila has sold luos to Ruto. He was never going to hand over for free..gema should retreat until 2027 huko...avoid Ruto if you can...compete with Sakajas of 2023

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Re: Gachagua to Uhuru:Please pick my call.
« Reply #19 on: October 07, 2023, 03:44:40 PM »

Moi was incumbent and lost 2002.
You were the one who always sings Raila was incumbent in 2013 with IEBC in his pocket through Owalo and Hassan but still lost to UhuRuto.
Raila had support on Incumbent in 2022 but still lost .
Ruto is not superhuman you are making same mistake Raila supporters have made since time memorial Ruto just like Raila is not invincible .
Raila lost 2013 and 2022 because of miscalculation . Ruto is miscalculating as we speak .He needs to stop listening to the likes of you and he might get back on track .
Perfectly put, history repeats itself. :D
njuri stop giving yourself false sense of insecurity..politics is dynamic..n you don't have someone who can play at high level..you look longterm like kalenjin did in 2018...go slow until 2032..or 2042..kalenjin unlikely to leave it that easy