Few kikuyu Leaders unto darkness

[RV Pundit]

What is it about some Politicians from Central Kenya forming a habit showing anger and intolerance to other communities in this country particularly from the ASALs and Northern Kenya. It has become a common occurrence by few leaders from Central Kenya attacking the people of… pic.twitter.com/ANpUHXd2JJ

— HE. Capt. Ali Ibrahim Roba, EGH, MP (@aliiroba) April 23, 2023

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[RV Pundit]

For me it appears its pure old jealous..First it was alshaabab then smuggling..then now it's devolution money being used to build apartment. Kikuyus need to internalise one thing..somalis are international business of no mean repute.Quite the hate and jealousy.Somalis are running the show all over as they're mercantile tribe who are great risk takers.

[RV Pundit]

No one hates Kikuyus more than themselves.

Pundit basically says don't be selfish, share with other Kenyans what you have the same way you want to have a share in every county migrating to as far as Lamu where a small tribal clash will be a massacre for the diaspora Kikuyus settled near the wariahs.

Central  think of Diaspora Kikuyu interest, that is all .Kikuyu learned boys/girls from central are oblivious to this. It is your choice, fight for Kenya where a kikuyu can be the head of the port of Mombassa, or a Kenya kikuyus have no rights outside Central.

With their demographic decline it boneheaded what they are advocating..already in protected const majority were gema..the new IEBC if they boundaries central will cry.For now they should be running away from population as only criteria

[RV Pundit]

He is complaining about CDF which they use to disburse bursary . CDF is illegal and should be banned .
If as you claim one man one shilling should benefit the marginalised more why are you complaining and attacking GEMA .
Why dont you deal with this Mp as an individual why drag the whole of GEMA . It just shows your biaseness against GEMA
Fyi its GEMA who made Ruto the president even if he opposed the BBI and one vote one shilling in the last regime  which was being advocated by Azimio . Why werent you attacking GEMA then .
You hate for GEMA is very evident stop pretending .

GG Kagombe point is simple.
Lets give reasonable bursaries to every child.

Every county n cdf get reasonable allocation following fair process with 80 percent of that formulae being population factor plus other factors considered including  geographical size, poverty index, etc.Gatundu should be last people to complain. Kikuyus should not feel any special because no one else is complaining..This kind of nonsense is what led Kikuyus being attacked in all corners of kenya. You need to learn to grateful. Don't isolate yourself. Raila relevance last two decade is down to kikuyu insolence

jinga check the records I have opposed these nonsense from day one..so did Ruto...Sakaja came up win win formulae. Nobody will board kikuyu stupidity..even counties that were benefit from large allocation said nope..not expense of poor turkanas n manderas.Those guys suffer worse form marginalisation..5yr drought just decimated all their cattle..you are cursed if you're fighting such people. Totalyl cursed.Ruto would stupid to entertain such stupidity. GEMA returned favour kalenjin..you still owe kalenjin another support..or we'll you will get arrows in your behind. THAT IS NOT ME..THAT REALITY.I don't sugar-coat things.I say it as it is.

[RV Pundit]

There are quite some valid questions. It is time we had serious honest public debates such as these ones. The quota system in allocation of school spaces have recognised that.

The fact that most national and extra county schools are located in Central means the quota system works against the locals. It is true that the locals have built the schools and waria seem to be doing nothing. With the population buge and livestock wealth itabidi waache ujinga.

CDF builds infrastructure then a school is classified as extra county.

Kiambu is gone..it becoming Nairobi. Therefore people there should prepare.So is machado and Kajiado. Now why certain regions have better schools...because previous gov didn't build them all over. CDF 100m cannot build good secondary schools...day schools maybe..Gov should build good national and provincial level schools. CDF can't.Counties are not allowed. These regions in ASAL are battling insecurity  ,drought and total lack of infrastructure..they need all support..soon they will get oil or diamonds..they will Starr a civil war if we have mistreated them n refuse to share too.

[Fairandbalanced]

[RV Pundit]

ubwa so only somalis mp steal cdf but kikuyu mps don't .infact  they steal less because they use money as bursaries..instead of building schools which where stealing happen.Before cdf n counties somalia were building things.how much can 100m build?.Somalis get money from businesses as you drink Muratina.

[Nowayhaha]

RV , I was not pro BBI nor was I pro one man one vote one shilling.
I was also on record here indicating Uhuru is trying to sell BBI as a Mt Kenya document however only Kiambu and Nairobi would benefit.
Now on your analysis above this new tribe you are calling cosmopolitan why dont you declassify it to the known Kenyan tribes. Then we can discuss from there.

[Nowayhaha]

My views on subject matter , why do you want to do a Raila on me and force a contest ?

Just imagine Mandera even after their numbers were corrected are nearly 1M people - and Kiambu - which is taking a lot of Nairobeans - is mere 2m people.
Kikuyus need to adjust to a new reality where they will not be important tribe - just another tribe.

Give these somalis two more decades -

Maasai were once the most popolous tribe in kenya - but now they a pale shadow of themselves.

RV, one of the reason I said its misplaced for Mt Kenya and Rift Valley to go all out on 1M 1S  debate is  , even if they were to win the amount they would have gained is insignificant vis a vis what they would gain  by retaining the Presidency (Executive) and Legislature  .Let their partner North Eastern Gain in  devolution . As this a mere 15% Max of the audited national revenue .
Now imagine if Railas BBI Referendum goes through which wants to increase   the disbursed national revenue to 35%/40% . This should be the cornerstone of Mt Kenya/RV/Western opposing the referendum  and opposing they will .
They need to look at the bigger picture , the Bomas draft which Raila is advocating is just a scheme to revenge against communities which have been in power and  or are politically superior in capturing power .

RV , I was not pro BBI nor was I pro one man one vote one shilling.
I was also on record here indicating Uhuru is trying to sell BBI as a Mt Kenya document however only Kiambu and Nairobi would benefit.
Now on your analysis above this new tribe you are calling cosmopolitan why dont you declassify it to the known Kenyan tribes. Then we can discuss from there.

[Nowayhaha]

Another one

Counties should be allowed to levy some of the taxes. For example - why should a county remit employee PAYES to KRA. It doesn't make sense. This is money should keep...Counties need to form their own County Revenue Authority - and be allowed to levy some taxes - PAYE of their own employees, VAT and taxes of all contractors working with county gov. That should give them 30% more of the money they receive - and proportionally.

Maybe in 10yrs - counties will have built more capacity - to go fully federal.

Otherwise this is slippery slope..

Every county should eventually get most of resources from their locality.

And national gov should self-fund from national functions - through ports - for examples - immigration - self-fund from charging for passports -

RV, one of the reason I said its misplaced for Mt Kenya and Rift Valley to go all out on 1M 1S  debate is  , even if they were to win the amount they would have gained is insignificant vis a vis what they would gain  by retaining the Presidency (Executive) and Legislature  .Let their partner North Eastern Gain in  devolution . As this a mere 15% Max of the audited national revenue .
Now imagine if Railas BBI Referendum goes through which wants to increase   the disbursed national revenue to 35%/40% . This should be the cornerstone of Mt Kenya/RV/Western opposing the referendum  and opposing they will .
They need to look at the bigger picture , the Bomas draft which Raila is advocating is just a scheme to revenge against communities which have been in power and  or are politically superior in capturing power .

True counties need to identify their strength and areas where they can create revenue and this should form their pool for the recuring expenditure. 
Railas propasal for 40% of national revenue to trickle down to counties is shortsighted, where will government get money to pay state officials  boost defence , seeks and pay loans  etc
If we go Railas way in 5 years time we would make rich county government officials and then be attacked by hostile neighbours and guess who will be negotiating with the hostile neighbours the same county government officials

[Nowayhaha]

Three years ago schooling Pundit

RV, as you can see its basically a formulae - Sharing Kshs 370 B using allocation factor  on Kshs 158.25 B  and remaining funds using the below parameters

Population weighs 18%
Health 17 %
Agriculture 10 %
Urban Services  5%
Roads  8%
Poverty  14%
Basic Share 20 %
Land Area   8 %

Now the formulae is not synonymous to population in retrospect if you look at it represents 10% of the total package in the formulae . Hence the reason Mandera with a total population of 867,457 is getting  10,222,95 and Kiambu with a population of 2,417,735 is getting  9,431,70

This is the WIN -WIN Formula we are adopting in the Senate to be applied for the next five years to divide revenue among counties. @WehliyeMohamed @ahmednasirlaw pic.twitter.com/pyLlwxANi6

— KIPCHUMBA MURKOMEN, E.G.H (@kipmurkomen) September 17, 2020

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Below is a list of census 2019 population for all counties released by KNBS:

Mombasa County Population: 1208333
Kwale County: 866820
Kilifi County: 1453787
Tana River County: 315943
Lamu County: 143920
Taita Taveta County: 340671
Garissa County: 841353
Wajir County: 781263
Mandera County: 867457
Marsabit County: 459785
Isiolo County: 268002
Meru County: 1545714
Tharaka Nithi: 393177
Embu County: 608599
Kitui: 1136187
Machakos County: 1421932
Makueni County: 987:653
Nyandarua County: 6382894
Nyeri County: 759164
Kirinyaga County: 610411
Muranga County: 1056640
Kiambu County Population: 2417735
Turkana County: 926976
West Pokot County: 621231
Samburu County: 310327
Transa Nzoia County: 990341
Uasin Gishu County: 1163186
Elgeyo Marakwet: 454480
Nandi County: 885711
Baringo County: 666763
Laikipia County: 518560
Nakuru County: 2162202
Narok County: 1157873
Kajiado County: 1117840
Kericho County: 901777
Bomet County: 875689
Kakamega County: 1867579
Vihiga County: 590013
Bungoma County: 1670570
Busia County: 893183
Siaya County: 993183
Kisumu County: 1155574
Homa Bay County: 1131950
Migori County: 1116436
Kisii County: 1266860
Nyamira County: 605576
Nairobi County Population: 4397073

[Nowayhaha]

[RV Pundit]

How can I hate my wife n inlaws and my half gema kids.My small bro married from kiambu.my cousin best friend kiambu.i don't hate or love gema or luos or somalis.I like and hate individuals...with names. One man one nonsense is stupidity on steroids and was moses kuria attempts to torpedo bbi.It propaganda that uses Ruirus and juja otherwise kikuyu lead in constituency that should not exist..and it will get worse with population decline

[RV Pundit]

Three years ago schooling Pundit

RV, as you can see its basically a formulae - Sharing Kshs 370 B using allocation factor  on Kshs 158.25 B  and remaining funds using the below parameters

Population weighs 18%
Health 17 %
Agriculture 10 %
Urban Services  5%
Roads  8%
Poverty  14%
Basic Share 20 %
Land Area   8 %

Now the formulae is not synonymous to population in retrospect if you look at it represents 10% of the total package in the formulae . Hence the reason Mandera with a total population of 867,457 is getting  10,222,95 and Kiambu with a population of 2,417,735 is getting  9,431,70

This is the WIN -WIN Formula we are adopting in the Senate to be applied for the next five years to divide revenue among counties. @WehliyeMohamed @ahmednasirlaw pic.twitter.com/pyLlwxANi6

— KIPCHUMBA MURKOMEN, E.G.H (@kipmurkomen) September 17, 2020

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Below is a list of census 2019 population for all counties released by KNBS:

Mombasa County Population: 1208333
Kwale County: 866820
Kilifi County: 1453787
Tana River County: 315943
Lamu County: 143920
Taita Taveta County: 340671
Garissa County: 841353
Wajir County: 781263
Mandera County: 867457
Marsabit County: 459785
Isiolo County: 268002
Meru County: 1545714
Tharaka Nithi: 393177
Embu County: 608599
Kitui: 1136187
Machakos County: 1421932
Makueni County: 987:653
Nyandarua County: 6382894
Nyeri County: 759164
Kirinyaga County: 610411
Muranga County: 1056640
Kiambu County Population: 2417735
Turkana County: 926976
West Pokot County: 621231
Samburu County: 310327
Transa Nzoia County: 990341
Uasin Gishu County: 1163186
Elgeyo Marakwet: 454480
Nandi County: 885711
Baringo County: 666763
Laikipia County: 518560
Nakuru County: 2162202
Narok County: 1157873
Kajiado County: 1117840
Kericho County: 901777
Bomet County: 875689
Kakamega County: 1867579
Vihiga County: 590013
Bungoma County: 1670570
Busia County: 893183
Siaya County: 993183
Kisumu County: 1155574
Homa Bay County: 1131950
Migori County: 1116436
Kisii County: 1266860
Nyamira County: 605576
Nairobi County Population: 4397073

Moron you supported kangata uhuru nonsense that was rejected...Sakaja brilliantly moved the debate to county function. Sakaja is kind of leaders we need.Ruto was instrumental in leading misguided gema leaders to abandon one man selfish stupidity..and this will not change soon.

[Nowayhaha]

You see when the likes of Pundit threaten to Finish GEMA using constituency reviews they forget Constitution of Kenya has lacunas about delimitation of electoral units and it will require Parliament enacted laws and political will to cover any grey areas.
There is a reason why there was an uproar during the last demarcation if you remember this you will appreciate the people who came up with constitution had figured out that this was a contentious issue and it would be dealt with politically .
Try reducing current Mt Kenya Constituencies and tey giving them to Kalenjin Rift Valley and see if Mt Kenya will vote for Ruto come 2027.
By law this should be the last year where the review should be done if Im not mistaken.

Now as for CDF that thing should be abolished all together . Rather create a Ward fund through the county monies allocation.
Legislators role should be to create laws and we will see more productive and less corrupt politicians in the parliament .

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[Nowayhaha]

I have never supported One Man One Vote One Shilling , I told you so that era .
I am for one Kenya unlike you who is tribal and is for regional governments
Raila supported that also with BBI as he shares same  ideals with you.
Go through my posts I was so against it that I earmarked Kangata as person who should be dealt with come 2022.
His letter to Uhuru and his persecution by ODMers made me have a soft spot for him. He dealt Uhuru and Azimio an uppercut.
It was because of the letter that people came to know there will be mass defections from GEMA come 2022 which happened en mass .
I can fish out more posts . I was Team Kenya and anti BBI .

Three years ago schooling Pundit

RV, as you can see its basically a formulae - Sharing Kshs 370 B using allocation factor  on Kshs 158.25 B  and remaining funds using the below parameters

Population weighs 18%
Health 17 %
Agriculture 10 %
Urban Services  5%
Roads  8%
Poverty  14%
Basic Share 20 %
Land Area   8 %

Now the formulae is not synonymous to population in retrospect if you look at it represents 10% of the total package in the formulae . Hence the reason Mandera with a total population of 867,457 is getting  10,222,95 and Kiambu with a population of 2,417,735 is getting  9,431,70

This is the WIN -WIN Formula we are adopting in the Senate to be applied for the next five years to divide revenue among counties. @WehliyeMohamed @ahmednasirlaw pic.twitter.com/pyLlwxANi6

— KIPCHUMBA MURKOMEN, E.G.H (@kipmurkomen) September 17, 2020

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Below is a list of census 2019 population for all counties released by KNBS:

Mombasa County Population: 1208333
Kwale County: 866820
Kilifi County: 1453787
Tana River County: 315943
Lamu County: 143920
Taita Taveta County: 340671
Garissa County: 841353
Wajir County: 781263
Mandera County: 867457
Marsabit County: 459785
Isiolo County: 268002
Meru County: 1545714
Tharaka Nithi: 393177
Embu County: 608599
Kitui: 1136187
Machakos County: 1421932
Makueni County: 987:653
Nyandarua County: 6382894
Nyeri County: 759164
Kirinyaga County: 610411
Muranga County: 1056640
Kiambu County Population: 2417735
Turkana County: 926976
West Pokot County: 621231
Samburu County: 310327
Transa Nzoia County: 990341
Uasin Gishu County: 1163186
Elgeyo Marakwet: 454480
Nandi County: 885711
Baringo County: 666763
Laikipia County: 518560
Nakuru County: 2162202
Narok County: 1157873
Kajiado County: 1117840
Kericho County: 901777
Bomet County: 875689
Kakamega County: 1867579
Vihiga County: 590013
Bungoma County: 1670570
Busia County: 893183
Siaya County: 993183
Kisumu County: 1155574
Homa Bay County: 1131950
Migori County: 1116436
Kisii County: 1266860
Nyamira County: 605576
Nairobi County Population: 4397073

Moron you supported kangata uhuru nonsense that was rejected...Sakaja brilliantly moved the debate to county function. Sakaja is kind of leaders we need.Ruto was instrumental in leading misguided gema leaders to abandon one man selfish stupidity..and this will not change soon.

[RV Pundit]

Nowayhaha,  devolution or federalism doesn't mean we tear apart kenya.We will still have a national gov n will share things equitably. Not equally. EQUITABLY.Const delimination will use census n protected constituencies majority in gema will go.Ruto will never be intimidated to violate constitution. Reality is thar likes of juja and Ruiru will split..and non kikuyus could win one or two.So kikuyu leaders need to stop the nonense. They are on their own.kalenjin leadership will never be part of one man nonsense as it runs contra to decency. This kind of tribal nonsense had ended until uhuru handshake.We have to nip it in the bud.Moronic leaders are isolating innocent majority of kikuyus hustling all over the world with overt tribal selfishness. Deal with real issues like alcoholism..leave this one man one shilling...it will only succeed in isolating gema

[Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants]

What is it about some Politicians from Central Kenya forming a habit showing anger and intolerance to other communities in this country particularly from the ASALs and Northern Kenya. It has become a common occurrence by few leaders from Central Kenya attacking the people of… pic.twitter.com/ANpUHXd2JJ

— HE. Capt. Ali Ibrahim Roba, EGH, MP (@aliiroba) April 23, 2023

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If I didn't know any better, I would have sworn I was listening to a MAGA moron.  No difference, especially in the derisive attitude towards the "less hardworking" folks.

[Fairandbalanced]

Kikuyus are not in any way jealous of Somalis, how you can extrapolate a small local issue to talk of genocide is beyond me. Somalis are no where near Kikuyus, in fact most of them hold Kikuyus in awe. To eclipse a tribe like kikuyu, it takes more than a few buildings or real estate development. It takes years of education and developing Human Resource, come here in the USA and we will show you how Kenyan Somalis are not even close. I am all for devolution and even to sub-location level but in Kenya, translating that to development remains a huge myth.

[Githunguri]

GG Kagombe point is simple.
Lets give reasonable bursaries to every child.

Every county n cdf get reasonable allocation following fair process with 80 percent of that formulae being population factor plus other factors considered including  geographical size, poverty index, etc.Gatundu should be last people to complain. Kikuyus should not feel any special because no one else is complaining..This kind of nonsense is what led Kikuyus being attacked in all corners of kenya. You need to learn to grateful. Don't isolate yourself. Raila relevance last two decade is down to kikuyu insolence

one thing ill never do on this forum is to engage into stupid arguments with you.