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Nobody has ever struggled in re-election like Kibaki did in 2007.
That despite economy that was booming.

Moi didnt struggle despite crashing the economy several times.

In fact Moi improved in 1997 - from 33% to 40%.
The reason Moi was nationalist at heart - despite being an idiot

Uhuru similarly improved from 50% - to almost 55%.

The reason in Jubilee 1.0 Ruto run a very nationalistic gov - ensured all projects were shared equally.

Kibaki whom I supported in 1990s till 2004s allowed small cabal of GACHAGUA type morons to destroy his gov.

In the end not only did he lose 2007 - he actually set kikuyu people against rest of the country - saw them kicked out and killed in large numbers.

You cannot blame ODM or Raila for Kibaki faults. Kibaki run a tribalist gov. I personally disembarked when I saw it.

Ruto and Uhuru in Jubilee 1.0 run a very good gov...that generally shared the pie equally.

Ruto now faces another kind of insular tribalistic elite that want to derail his gov.
He should not be afraid to tell them the truth - we want a NATIONAL GOV where everyone is happy to be part of it.

There is nothing that kills gov than tribalism. You can survive like Moi for 24yrs despite being a primary dropout if you are keen to build a national profile

People want to belong before ANYTHING. They don't want to be told the gov belongs to XYZ even if they know it. You want to play smart. Reward you, friends, but talk the national language like Moi did.

Ruto normally does this - and is very disciplined in words. But Gachagua is killing him with other morons around him. The Gikomba issue for most people is yet another Kikuyu entitlement.

Like kibaki - his path to victory will become narrow and narrow - if he pursues a narrow tribal interest. To the extent, Kibaki became 1st kenyan to lose a re-election - despite being elected by 63% and growing the economy by 7%.


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Re: Ruto has to confront the remaining Gachagua type GEMA entitlement sooner
« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2023, 06:36:32 PM »
Plus consequences like this.
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Re: Ruto has to confront the remaining Gachagua type GEMA entitlement sooner
« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2023, 07:48:05 PM »
These entitlements are very harmful. Unga and rice prices remains high in a drought situation as the importation was stopped to protect farmers who had no meaningful produce. Brokers are the only beneficiaries.
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Re: Ruto has to confront the remaining Gachagua type GEMA entitlement sooner
« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2023, 09:10:50 PM »

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Re: Ruto has to confront the remaining Gachagua type GEMA entitlement sooner
« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2023, 09:27:30 PM »
Yes I forget the north rift maize entitlement.
These entitlements are very harmful. Unga and rice prices remains high in a drought situation as the importation was stopped to protect farmers who had no meaningful produce. Brokers are the only beneficiaries.

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Re: Ruto has to confront the remaining Gachagua type GEMA entitlement sooner
« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2023, 09:28:11 PM »
Chinese opened a wallmart like mall and employed 100 kenyans - paid leases - transports- gave life to KU dead capital - and sold cheaply. Which chinese was hawking?

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Ujinga tupu. Stupid fools are calling waria aliens.  Never makes sense as kikuyus have taken over other parts of the country and are in need of a more cohesive country.

https://nation.africa/kenya/counties/kiambu/locals-rue-rise-of-illegal-immigrants-in-mt-kenya-4143648
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Well put Pundito. I hope Ruto umojainnercore guys like RVHH are reading this. A priceless advise.

Nobody has ever struggled in re-election like Kibaki did in 2007.
That despite economy that was booming.

Moi didnt struggle despite crashing the economy several times.

In fact Moi improved in 1997 - from 33% to 40%.
The reason Moi was nationalist at heart - despite being an idiot

Uhuru similarly improved from 50% - to almost 55%.

The reason in Jubilee 1.0 Ruto run a very nationalistic gov - ensured all projects were shared equally.

Kibaki whom I supported in 1990s till 2004s allowed small cabal of GACHAGUA type morons to destroy his gov.

In the end not only did he lose 2007 - he actually set kikuyu people against rest of the country - saw them kicked out and killed in large numbers.

You cannot blame ODM or Raila for Kibaki faults. Kibaki run a tribalist gov. I personally disembarked when I saw it.

Ruto and Uhuru in Jubilee 1.0 run a very good gov...that generally shared the pie equally.

Ruto now faces another kind of insular tribalistic elite that want to derail his gov.
He should not be afraid to tell them the truth - we want a NATIONAL GOV where everyone is happy to be part of it.

There is nothing that kills gov than tribalism. You can survive like Moi for 24yrs despite being a primary dropout if you are keen to build a national profile

People want to belong before ANYTHING. They don't want to be told the gov belongs to XYZ even if they know it. You want to play smart. Reward you, friends, but talk the national language like Moi did.

Ruto normally does this - and is very disciplined in words. But Gachagua is killing him with other morons around him. The Gikomba issue for most people is yet another Kikuyu entitlement.

Like kibaki - his path to victory will become narrow and narrow - if he pursues a narrow tribal interest. To the extent, Kibaki became 1st kenyan to lose a re-election - despite being elected by 63% and growing the economy by 7%.

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Ujinga tupu. Stupid fools are calling waria aliens.  Never makes sense as kikuyus have taken over other parts of the country and are in need of a more cohesive country.

https://nation.africa/kenya/counties/kiambu/locals-rue-rise-of-illegal-immigrants-in-mt-kenya-4143648
The mindless xenophobia and entitlements

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Kneegrow wa kano..Ruto appointment of malala and potential merge with anc & fordk tells him he is aware of Gachagua boxing him in a straight jacket yet there is no gurantee gema will vote for Ruto at 90 percent or even at same level.Ruto has to face Gachagua open divisive politics and ask him to tone it down. I know Gachagua want to be seen as mt kenya defender but he can switch languages when he wants to be tribal. How will Ruto sell himself when the deputy is openly excluding others. This is kibaki curse of 2007 where insular nyeri and meru leaders isolated kibaki...made gema pay a huge price for open tribalism. Ruto should never tire trying to achieve national unity.Rewards friends mostly GEMA for their loyalty but also encourage Azimio tribes that there is space for them.

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Kneegrow wa kano..Ruto appointment of malala and potential merge with anc & fordk tells him he is aware of Gachagua boxing him in a straight jacket yet there is no gurantee gema will vote for Ruto at 90 percent or even at same level.Ruto has to face Gachagua open divisive politics and ask him to tone it down. I know Gachagua want to be seen as mt kenya defender but he can switch languages when he wants to be tribal. How will Ruto sell himself when the deputy is openly excluding others. This is kibaki curse of 2007 where insular nyeri and meru leaders isolated kibaki...made gema pay a huge price for open tribalism. Ruto should never tire trying to achieve national unity.Rewards friends mostly GEMA for their loyalty but also encourage Azimio tribes that there is space for them.
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Ruto should never listed to Kalenjin hawks like RVpundit who is a Moist and ODMers . Next RVPundit will ask Ruto to handshake Raila.
Ruto should do what Uhuru did in 2017 ring fence his voting basket of 2022 and eat into Railas voting basket .For that he should ignore Gachagua no one takes him seriously . Ruto by now knows what happens when a DP is perceived to be betrayed .
He should work for Kenya do what he did in Nyanza tour all the country preaching the message of peace , reconciliation , unity and development .He will get additional votes by avoiding the Raila curse which is pegged on Politics of betrayal . If he takes advices of Kalenjin hawks like RVpundit this will result is people having pity on Gachagua like they felt sorry for him when Uhuru betrayed him and Mt Kenya leading to political consequences.

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If I am that useless - why are you lithering your post with personal attacks.
Ruto obviously should not betray GEMA.

But he obviously should not sit pretty considering he squeezed through last election.
He has to handshake certain areas of Azimio - without handshaking Raila or Kalonzo or uhuru or those guys
They bring him not value. If they had value - why not handshake them. For now they overleveraging their positions.

Gachagua has to learn to play national politics.
He is very green in politics. Just mere MP who was promoted quickly.
He needs to learn how to endear himself to Mt kenya without being so tribal.

As for Ruto in 2022 - I advise him to work with scenario; where 50% of GEMA dont support him; as the most PLAUSIBLE scenario;

We have already seen signs of impatience from GEMA - when Uhuru left huge mess..they will be quick to blame Ruto.
And if Raila wont be running in 2022 as it very likely - there will be no hate object to rally Mt kenya against.
Again Kenyattas are not finished completely - they are still a danger.

So realistic Ruto has to imagine half Mt kenya will not vote him in.

And therefore look for those votes in western, coast, Matusa and NEP.
Ruto should never listed to Kalenjin hawks like RVpundit who is a Moist and ODMers . Next RVPundit will ask Ruto to handshake Raila.
Ruto should do what Uhuru did in 2017 ring fence his voting basket of 2022 and eat into Railas voting basket .For that he should ignore Gachagua no one takes him seriously . Ruto by now knows what happens when a DP is perceived to be betrayed .
He should work for Kenya do what he did in Nyanza tour all the country preaching the message of peace , reconciliation , unity and development .He will get additional votes by avoiding the Raila curse which is pegged on Politics of betrayal . If he takes advices of Kalenjin hawks like RVpundit this will result is people having pity on Gachagua like they felt sorry for him when Uhuru betrayed him and Mt Kenya leading to political consequences.

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Re: Ruto has to confront the remaining Gachagua type GEMA entitlement sooner
« Reply #13 on: October 10, 2023, 10:11:36 AM »
Ruto should never listed to Kalenjin hawks like RVpundit who is a Moist and ODMers . Next RVPundit will ask Ruto to handshake Raila.
Ruto should do what Uhuru did in 2017 ring fence his voting basket of 2022 and eat into Railas voting basket .For that he should ignore Gachagua no one takes him seriously . Ruto by now knows what happens when a DP is perceived to be betrayed .
He should work for Kenya do what he did in Nyanza tour all the country preaching the message of peace , reconciliation , unity and development .He will get additional votes by avoiding the Raila curse which is pegged on Politics of betrayal . If he takes advices of Kalenjin hawks like RVpundit this will result is people having pity on Gachagua like they felt sorry for him when Uhuru betrayed him and Mt Kenya leading to political consequences.

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Re: Ruto has to confront the remaining Gachagua type GEMA entitlement sooner
« Reply #14 on: October 10, 2023, 11:00:30 AM »
Handshake Raila for what...Ruto has bought out Raila. I warned Gachagua he didn't listen

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Re: Ruto has to confront the remaining Gachagua type GEMA entitlement sooner
« Reply #15 on: October 18, 2024, 11:33:22 AM »

Made the biggest mistake , come 2027 will resurrect this lost again ….

Ruto should never listed to Kalenjin hawks like RVpundit who is a Moist and ODMers . Next RVPundit will ask Ruto to handshake Raila.
Ruto should do what Uhuru did in 2017 ring fence his voting basket of 2022 and eat into Railas voting basket .For that he should ignore Gachagua no one takes him seriously . Ruto by now knows what happens when a DP is perceived to be betrayed .
He should work for Kenya do what he did in Nyanza tour all the country preaching the message of peace , reconciliation , unity and development .He will get additional votes by avoiding the Raila curse which is pegged on Politics of betrayal . If he takes advices of Kalenjin hawks like RVpundit this will result is people having pity on Gachagua like they felt sorry for him when Uhuru betrayed him and Mt Kenya leading to political consequences.

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Re: Ruto has to confront the remaining Gachagua type GEMA entitlement sooner
« Reply #16 on: October 19, 2024, 05:47:46 PM »
The "Moi was a nationalist" narrative doesn't make sense. Half the civil service, ambassadors, army, DCs, cops, etc were Kalenjin. Biwott was de facto prime minister.

Only the cabinet and Kanu NEC were a national face.

Why did Kibaki lose? Fate more than tribalism or political incompetence

1. Road accident, stroke crippled him in his 70s. He was like senile Jomo in his 80s and Kiraitu, Muthaura, Murungaru, Michuki ran the government.
2. Key Kibaki lieutenants Kijana Wamalwa and Karisa Maitha died. This lost Coast and Western easy to Raila. After this Raila only needed to incite ENTITLED KALENJIN who had been refactored out of their largesse after 24 years of Moi.

Kikuyu today are not any different from Kalenjin after Moi.

By the way RV Pundit, Kibaki in 2007 was more popular than Ruto in 2024.
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Re: Ruto has to confront the remaining Gachagua type GEMA entitlement sooner
« Reply #17 on: October 19, 2024, 06:26:20 PM »
For the record Noway haha was right and Mogotio Bob was wrong.

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Re: Ruto has to confront the remaining Gachagua type GEMA entitlement sooner
« Reply #18 on: October 20, 2024, 04:41:25 AM »
For the record Noway haha was right and Mogotio Bob was wrong.
I think I was right.... Gachagua got hanged for his open tribalism.