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Re: Uhuru you're too late on Sakaja
« Reply #20 on: June 15, 2022, 05:01:06 PM »
East German - where he studied - I have had was language front - but his real studies was on espionage, making nail bombs and other studies by Russians.
Look at this photo and it was before the conmen overrun Kenya with dubiuos certificates and titles.

Btw, I had an enquiry today about Raila's Dip.Ing. title. I explained to my friend following.

Before the Bologna Process standardized the European higher edication, degrees from universities in Germany were known as diplom. There were no bachelor degrees from universities since the education there took minimum 9 semesters. Earliest one could finish was after 10 semesters. This was the equivalent of a masters degree in Germany today. That is the reason in Germany even a primary school teacher spends minimum 9 semesters at the university and can only teach with a masters degree.

Simplified, Germany universities then only gave out masters degrees. Today it is diffenrent and one can leave university with a bachelor's degree.

Raila studied at the University of Magdeburg, then known as Technische Hochschule Magdeburg. It was a university only specialising in mechanical engineering.


Raila hapo Germany has welding cert.
These things are arguable in court.
Joho forged KCSE and then degree - he is already shadow min of land after completing governorship

Why is CUE in hurry and without procedure - cancelling something they approved last week.
Sakaja can claim he was being unfairly targetted - and court will listen.

So Sakaja could be wrong but gov has to move slowly and procedurally - any big misstep sakaja get protected by courts.

In a country with so many fake degrees - why focus on Sakaja.

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Re: Uhuru you're too late on Sakaja
« Reply #21 on: June 15, 2022, 09:19:49 PM »
Yeap as expected Uhuru evidence now is useless; apeleke kortini

What will be argued is what was presented as evidence during the 24-48 hours when someone could dispute RO decision.

https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2022-06-15-iebc-dismisses-cue-letter-revoking-sakajas-degree/

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Re: Uhuru you're too late on Sakaja
« Reply #22 on: June 15, 2022, 09:28:36 PM »
And Sakaja will likely get permanent or temporary injunction against CUE on his academics

Uhuru has shown his hand.


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Re: Uhuru you're too late on Sakaja
« Reply #23 on: June 15, 2022, 09:45:03 PM »
Kenya is a systemically corrupt country but sakaja played this terribly (I honestly thought he was smarter than this and more of a planner -- illiterates like Joho and Aisha Juma even beat him at this game of forgery) it's the sloppiness that makes me wonder about this guy at this point.

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Re: Uhuru you're too late on Sakaja
« Reply #24 on: June 15, 2022, 10:06:18 PM »
You sound more concerned about Sakaja self preservation more than the victims/voters. If this guy can do this would you trust him with county money? They should go after him with criminal prosecution and also go after Uganda University.

Kenya is a systemically corrupt country but sakaja played this terribly (I honestly thought he was smarter than this and more of a planner -- illiterates like Joho and Aisha Juma even beat him at this game of forgery) it's the sloppiness that makes me wonder about this guy at this point.

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Re: Uhuru you're too late on Sakaja
« Reply #25 on: June 15, 2022, 11:28:02 PM »
High court suspends cue and iebc.Uhuru has clearly show his hand and Sakaja is home free.. judiciary doesn't like when process by state organisation is driven by witch-hunt n vendetta.

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Re: Uhuru you're too late on Sakaja
« Reply #26 on: June 15, 2022, 11:51:44 PM »
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Re: Uhuru you're too late on Sakaja
« Reply #27 on: June 15, 2022, 11:55:32 PM »
High court suspends cue and iebc.Uhuru has clearly show his hand and Sakaja is home free.. judiciary doesn't like when process by state organisation is driven by witch-hunt n vendetta.
They have been TKO'd. Lame-duck drunkard is naked, so as Azimio!
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Re: Uhuru you're too late on Sakaja
« Reply #28 on: June 16, 2022, 12:03:25 AM »
Lol RVHH - the lameduck has sunk your boy. If you & Pundit were any good you should ask Ruto take Miguna advise: just replace Sakaja with Havi. Kenya and UDA are bigger than one corrupt Kalenjin.


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Re: Uhuru you're too late on Sakaja
« Reply #29 on: June 16, 2022, 01:10:10 AM »
Continue waiting for things to happen. Those who want power and position must work hard and take it. Miguna Miguna is all over the map because he has LOQ EQ and is not a team player.
Lol RVHH - the lameduck has sunk your boy. If you & Pundit were any good you should ask Ruto take Miguna advise: just replace Sakaja with Havi. Kenya and UDA are bigger than one corrupt Kalenjin.


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Re: Uhuru you're too late on Sakaja
« Reply #30 on: June 16, 2022, 01:28:44 AM »
Lol RVHH - the lameduck has sunk your boy. If you & Pundit were any good you should ask Ruto take Miguna advise: just replace Sakaja with Havi. Kenya and UDA are bigger than one corrupt Kalenjin.


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Sonko was in the same spot in 2017, but thousands of folks came out and voted for the "uneducated" over miguna and the rest. Same slum dwellers are waiting to hit the voting lines to deliver for anyone aligning with Bottom-up!
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Re: Uhuru you're too late on Sakaja
« Reply #31 on: June 16, 2022, 07:39:22 AM »
Igathe had put in a good fight. Uhurus involvement in this has madw Sakaja win the Governship. Uhuru is being Naive or simply Sakaja is also his candindate.

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Re: Uhuru you're too late on Sakaja
« Reply #32 on: June 16, 2022, 07:51:34 AM »
I think we overrate Uhuru;
He is an idiot whom Mois used to try to extend power in 2002;
And later Ruto used him to gain power;
And only went on his own when second term had been secured; Heck he needed Raila;
On his own - he couldnt win Gatundu South in 1997 - Moi had him nominated and turbo-charged to head KANU.
Come 2007 - he run to Kibaki and abandoned his leader of opposition - so he could win MP seat.
Post 2008 - Ruto took him, dusted him and ensured he went to win PORK; at some point he signed it off to maDVD.
The last 5yrs - despite all the state resources and backing of Raila - he has been unable to fight Ruto.
Not nationally - not in GEMA.

We are overrating a spoilt brat who doesnt undertsand basic legal or political stuff - is mostly drunkard - and has had stuff done for him.

I use to think he was smart - but I have come to conclusion - I was mistaken - he is actually an idiot.

Igathe had put in a good fight. Uhurus involvement in this has madw Sakaja win the Governship. Uhuru is being Naive or simply Sakaja is also his candindate.

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Re: Uhuru you're too late on Sakaja
« Reply #33 on: June 16, 2022, 08:18:33 AM »

Exactly Uhuru was helped by Moi when made Minister and Presidential Candidate , Kibaki when he made him DPM and Minister of Finance and most importantly ICC and Ruto .
Uhuru true moment to show his political muscle was with Handshake it only exposed him . That he didnt control GEMA .This election will only prove what some of us have always been saying.
GEMA in 2013 and 2017 never voted for Uhuru but against Raila.


I think we overrate Uhuru;
He is an idiot whom Mois used to try to extend power in 2002;
And later Ruto used him to gain power;
And only went on his own when second term had been secured; Heck he needed Raila;
On his own - he couldnt win Gatundu South in 1997 - Moi had him nominated and turbo-charged to head KANU.
Come 2007 - he run to Kibaki and abandoned his leader of opposition - so he could win MP seat.
Post 2008 - Ruto took him, dusted him and ensured he went to win PORK; at some point he signed it off to maDVD.
The last 5yrs - despite all the state resources and backing of Raila - he has been unable to fight Ruto.
Not nationally - not in GEMA.

We are overrating a spoilt brat who doesnt undertsand basic legal or political stuff - is mostly drunkard - and has had stuff done for him.

I use to think he was smart - but I have come to conclusion - I was mistaken - he is actually an idiot.

Igathe had put in a good fight. Uhurus involvement in this has madw Sakaja win the Governship. Uhuru is being Naive or simply Sakaja is also his candindate.

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Re: Uhuru you're too late on Sakaja
« Reply #34 on: June 16, 2022, 08:35:44 AM »
2002 - is obvious - he was part of Moi and his sons - attempt to extend their rule.
2013 - I know he was reluctant from get-go - believing it would be hard for another kikuyu to win with KIbaki exiting - and then with ICC - he thought it was hopeless.

Ruto told him it could be done - but 1st he needed to dump KANU. KANU was just a terrible brand that could not be salvaged - so he left KANU to Gideon Moi - and formed TNA - which he still tried to rebrand with KANU red :) - replaced a jogoo with a dove :)

Ruto then helped designed the anti-ICC push or propaganda - and when all was done - Kibaki and statehouse security top guys (NIS, Army) summoned him - and told him to hand over to maDVD.

And he just did that - called maDVD - signed it off and walked away- he was going home - if not for Ruto to pull him back - and tell him to go rogue.

What Uhuru has always had working for him 1) Mama Ngina money 2) He is kikuyu - a scion of Jomo Kenyatta - who can be sold easily in Mt kenya- those were things Moi and Ruto saw in him. You just need to sell him back to GEMA and bill Mama Ngina for all the expenses.

On his own - he is a hopeless drunkard - a chain smoker who can barely stay sober.

Come 10th August we shall see just how hopeless he is when Ruto wins and dismantle the Kenyatta empire. If Raila wins - he will do the same.

He has single handlely destroyed Kenyatta family - by putting them in corner where they have choose R versus R - either Raila or Ruto first business is going to be finish Kenyatta.



Exactly Uhuru was helped by Moi when made Minister and Presidential Candidate , Kibaki when he made him DPM and Minister of Finance and most importantly ICC and Ruto .
Uhuru true moment to show his political muscle was with Handshake it only exposed him . That he didnt control GEMA .This election will only prove what some of us have always been saying.
GEMA in 2013 and 2017 never voted for Uhuru but against Raila.

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Re: Uhuru you're too late on Sakaja
« Reply #35 on: June 16, 2022, 05:08:32 PM »
Pundit & Noway - your jaundiced views only confirm Uhuru mettle. What stopped your genius Ruto from making himself PORK instead of backing Uhuru or Raila? Simple: Uhuru wa Jomo has brains and is ruthless undercover operator.

After years of Moi & Kanu misrule he obviously knew it was hard to win. It was still better move to ride Moi than line up behind Kibaki and long list of tribal kingpins. Joining DP or Ford Asili would have been stupid.

Once Kibaki was in he quickly aligned in 07 to inherit Gema. The opposite of fools who take on the incumbent and climb a mountain. Signing up with Mdvd was to snap Luhya from Raila ODM grip. Raila had to run to Weta after Mdvd exit.

2012-17 of course Uhuru used Ruto to fight Raila. 2018-22 he has pitted Raila vs Ruto again and rule solo willy-nilly. It OBVIOUSLY Ruto who has been used, dumped and about to be sent home high & dry. Ati genius wapi.

About Kenyatta property to be seized bla de bla - those endless conjectures are projecting sour grapes. Win first - wacheni kulilia Sakaja - halafu fuata nyayo za Uhuru.
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Re: Uhuru you're too late on Sakaja
« Reply #36 on: June 16, 2022, 05:14:32 PM »
Utoto mingi. Restrict yourself to politics of the last 10yrs. You dont know nothing about 20-30yrs ago politics.
Pundit & Noway - your jaundiced views only confirm Uhuru mettle. What stopped your genius Ruto from making himself PORK instead of backing Uhuru or Raila? Simple: Uhuru wa Jomo has brains and is ruthless undercover operator.

After years of Moi & Kanu misrule he obviously knew it was hard to win. It was still better move to ride Moi than line up behind Kibaki and long list of tribal kingpins. Joining DP or Ford Asili would have been stupid.

Once Kibaki was in he quickly aligned in 07 to inherit Gema. The opposite of fools who take on the incumbent and climb a mountain. Signing up with Mdvd was to snap Luhya from Raila ODM grip. Raila had to run to Weta after Mdvd exit.

2012-17 of course Uhuru used Ruto to fight Raila. 2018-22 he has pitted Raila vs Ruto again and rule solo willy-nilly. It OBVIOUSLY Ruto who has been used, dumped and about to be sent home high & dry. Ati genius wapi.

About Kenyatta property to be seized bla de bla - those endless conjectures are projecting sour grapes. Win first - wacheni kulilia Sakaja - halafu fuata nyayo za Uhuru.

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Re: Uhuru you're too late on Sakaja
« Reply #37 on: June 17, 2022, 01:03:20 AM »
You are getting desperate. There are many academics especially in medicine and in engineering who went to school in the former East block countries.
Are they all terrorists? In

East German - where he studied - I have had was language front - but his real studies was on espiona toge, making nail bombs and other studies by Russians.

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Re: Uhuru you're too late on Sakaja
« Reply #38 on: June 17, 2022, 01:10:29 AM »
I am only desperate for your new insight as a long time resident in germany. I certainly dont think Raila can be knocked out by degree requirement. He has to be beaten by at least a million votes. He is that important.

So takes this as purely fun exercise.

Start from Maseno where Jaramogi is teaching Maseno Boys in pre-colonial era - becomes MP in late 50s and VP in early 60s - fired as VP in 1966 - and continue to East Germany.

We now know he claim he went to Maranda high but there is no CPE or high school record of Raila in Kenya or East Africa. So when did he first go to Germany...post independence certainly from 1963...as teenage...maybe 17-20yrs old?

So what did Raila actually study in communist East Germany aka Democratic Republic of Germany

You are getting desperate. There are many academics especially in medicine and in engineering who went to school in the former East block countries.
Are they all terrorists? In

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Re: Uhuru you're too late on Sakaja
« Reply #39 on: June 17, 2022, 01:18:24 AM »
True dat...all these games will undermine 'State Project' mandate!

Yes he is damaged goods;
Gatheca will run - but he is wasting time - Igathe will be thrown out by MCA day two.
He wont have big daddy in statehouse to protect him.
He will be impeached within 1st three months.
Look at the big 3D picture. Where does this leave Sakaja support,he will be lucky to get 30% damage has been done already and that's what gatheca and his moles wanted