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Uhuru you're too late on Sakaja
« on: June 15, 2022, 12:00:24 PM »
Such revocation can only apply post-facto.
Procedure is simple.
Sakaja was approved by Nairobi Country RO.
Those who wanted to challenge eligibility had 24-48hrs
They filled their submission late against a stranger named Koskei.
Sakaja names do not include Koskei...when he dropped it..nobody knows
IEBC dispute comittee and should present their finding by friday- is already seized of the matter
Anything else including new evidence - peleka courtini in poll petition


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Re: Uhuru you're too late on Sakaja
« Reply #1 on: June 15, 2022, 12:30:29 PM »
Look at the big 3D picture. Where does this leave Sakaja support,he will be lucky to get 30% damage has been done already and that's what gatheca and his moles wanted

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Re: Uhuru you're too late on Sakaja
« Reply #2 on: June 15, 2022, 12:32:10 PM »
Yes he is damaged goods;
Gatheca will run - but he is wasting time - Igathe will be thrown out by MCA day two.
He wont have big daddy in statehouse to protect him.
He will be impeached within 1st three months.
Look at the big 3D picture. Where does this leave Sakaja support,he will be lucky to get 30% damage has been done already and that's what gatheca and his moles wanted

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Re: Uhuru you're too late on Sakaja
« Reply #3 on: June 15, 2022, 12:35:16 PM »
Yes he is damaged goods;
Gatheca will run - but he is wasting time - Igathe will be thrown out by MCA day two.
He wont have big daddy in statehouse to protect him.
He will be impeached within 1st three months.
Look at the big 3D picture. Where does this leave Sakaja support,he will be lucky to get 30% damage has been done already and that's what gatheca and his moles wanted
I will publish suspect list of gatheca moles in UDA.

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Re: Uhuru you're too late on Sakaja
« Reply #4 on: June 15, 2022, 12:41:45 PM »
Sakaja should have known better. Never run against big state when you have fake documents.

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Re: Uhuru you're too late on Sakaja
« Reply #5 on: June 15, 2022, 12:59:47 PM »
Yes he is naive fool not understand the stakes...and make sure he had crossed all the ts and is.
Sakaja should have known better. Never run against big state when you have fake documents.

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Re: Uhuru you're too late on Sakaja
« Reply #6 on: June 15, 2022, 01:01:17 PM »
Such revocation can only apply post-facto.
Procedure is simple.
Sakaja was approved by Nairobi Country RO.
Those who wanted to challenge eligibility had 24-48hrs
They filled their submission late against a stranger named Koskei.
Sakaja names do not include Koskei...when he dropped it..nobody knows
IEBC dispute comittee and should present their finding by friday- is already seized of the matter
Anything else including new evidence - peleka courtini in poll petition



OR they can revoke it and let Sakaja go make those arguments in court.
"I freed a thousand slaves.  I could have freed a thousand more if only they knew they were slaves."

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Re: Uhuru you're too late on Sakaja
« Reply #7 on: June 15, 2022, 01:07:35 PM »
Procedural steps in a court or quasi legal process
It simply mean you cannot introduce new evidence mid-stream.
The process now is at IEBC Dispute Resolution Comittee.
It operates like a court in Milimani law court.
You file your case and all evidence.
You cannot like CORD of 2013 - ambush them with new evidence.
IEBC if it allows EACC or CUE to bring new information - would never hold election.
So procedures are importants
Time are important.
Sakaja will run - he simply need to block CUE - but IEBC cannot use new evidence without giving him time to respond.

So those aggrieved will have to go proper court - and file their petition.
This one is just quick checklist by IEBC.

And question is simple - was Nairobi CRO right to approve Sakaja or not.
The answer - at time of doing that - he was - new evidence is irrelevant.

OR they can revoke it and let Sakaja go make those arguments in court.

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Re: Uhuru you're too late on Sakaja
« Reply #8 on: June 15, 2022, 01:28:58 PM »
Sakaja could win the election, but it will declared null and void on day two. How can he win any case in court when he cannot present his original degree certificate?

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Re: Uhuru you're too late on Sakaja
« Reply #9 on: June 15, 2022, 01:58:50 PM »
Raila hapo Germany has welding cert.
These things are arguable in court.
Joho forged KCSE and then degree - he is already shadow min of land after completing governorship

Why is CUE in hurry and without procedure - cancelling something they approved last week.
Sakaja can claim he was being unfairly targetted - and court will listen.

So Sakaja could be wrong but gov has to move slowly and procedurally - any big misstep sakaja get protected by courts.

In a country with so many fake degrees - why focus on Sakaja.

Sakaja could win the election, but it will declared null and void on day two. How can he win any case in court when he cannot present his original degree certificate?

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Re: Uhuru you're too late on Sakaja
« Reply #10 on: June 15, 2022, 02:00:38 PM »
It comes a time when the nation is bigger than an individual  and that time has arrived for Sakaja. Look for ways to climb down and live to fight another day or drag this thing out and continue making more blunders. They should pursue criminal prosecution based on forged documents.

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Re: Uhuru you're too late on Sakaja
« Reply #11 on: June 15, 2022, 02:03:51 PM »
Pointing out another thief is no defence in a criminal court. It comes down to does he have a degree or not, did he produce forged documents? At some point we have to stop defending 'our' thieves.

Raila hapo Germany has welding cert.
These things are arguable in court.
Joho forged KCSE and then degree - he is already shadow min of land after completing governorship

Why is CUE in hurry and without procedure - cancelling something they approved last week.
Sakaja can claim he was being unfairly targetted - and court will listen.

So Sakaja could be wrong but gov has to move slowly and procedurally - any big misstep sakaja get protected by courts.

In a country with so many fake degrees - why focus on Sakaja.

Sakaja could win the election, but it will declared null and void on day two. How can he win any case in court when he cannot present his original degree certificate?

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Re: Uhuru you're too late on Sakaja
« Reply #12 on: June 15, 2022, 02:05:07 PM »
Once again look like it's fake letter from CUE that lame media has picked

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Re: Uhuru you're too late on Sakaja
« Reply #13 on: June 15, 2022, 02:05:46 PM »
Where I am defending a thief.
You guys have English comprehnsion problems.
When I play the devil advocate - it doesnt mean I defend him.
Did Sakaja buy a cert - most probably- like Raila did.
Is this fatal for his run - NOPE.
Pointing out another thief is no defence in a criminal court. It comes down to does he have a degree or not, did he produce forged documents? At some point we have to stop defending 'our' thieves.

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Re: Uhuru you're too late on Sakaja
« Reply #14 on: June 15, 2022, 02:06:39 PM »

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Re: Uhuru you're too late on Sakaja
« Reply #15 on: June 15, 2022, 02:08:04 PM »
What makes it fake. If he bought it - that is different story. Harvard sold it to Gaddafi son. Those are legit papers.  Fake is printing in river road. But if someone approaches an accredited university and buy it - without going through class - there is nothing you can do. See Joho case. The university would have abused it's trust to sell degrees - and there is nothing anybody can do post-facto.

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Re: Uhuru you're too late on Sakaja
« Reply #16 on: June 15, 2022, 03:13:21 PM »
Look like Sakaja has decided to go head to head with head of state - nobody fears the lameduck


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Re: Uhuru you're too late on Sakaja
« Reply #17 on: June 15, 2022, 03:52:01 PM »
Look at this photo and it was before the conmen overrun Kenya with dubiuos certificates and titles.

Btw, I had an enquiry today about Raila's Dip.Ing. title. I explained to my friend following.

Before the Bologna Process standardized the European higher edication, degrees from universities in Germany were known as diplom. There were no bachelor degrees from universities since the education there took minimum 9 semesters. Earliest one could finish was after 10 semesters. This was the equivalent of a masters degree in Germany today. That is the reason in Germany even a primary school teacher spends minimum 9 semesters at the university and can only teach with a masters degree.

Simplified, Germany universities then only gave out masters degrees. Today it is diffenrent and one can leave university with a bachelor's degree.

Raila studied at the University of Magdeburg, then known as Technische Hochschule Magdeburg. It was a university only specialising in mechanical engineering.


Raila hapo Germany has welding cert.
These things are arguable in court.
Joho forged KCSE and then degree - he is already shadow min of land after completing governorship

Why is CUE in hurry and without procedure - cancelling something they approved last week.
Sakaja can claim he was being unfairly targetted - and court will listen.

So Sakaja could be wrong but gov has to move slowly and procedurally - any big misstep sakaja get protected by courts.

In a country with so many fake degrees - why focus on Sakaja.

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Re: Uhuru you're too late on Sakaja
« Reply #18 on: June 15, 2022, 04:54:22 PM »
Look like Sakaja has decided to go head to head with head of state - nobody fears the lameduck


He is lying though.  Is that important to you at all?
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Re: Uhuru you're too late on Sakaja
« Reply #19 on: June 15, 2022, 04:59:45 PM »
It is - I am still shocked that he didnt finished at UON. He has reduced himself to sonko/joho level. This will hurt him. He is damaged.
He is lying though.  Is that important to you at all?