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Re: Eisten - Raila amechoma tena - calls Mitumba dead people clothes
« Reply #1 on: June 07, 2022, 09:15:24 AM »
Sijui shida yake inakuwanga nini? The other time he was saying ati Mungu anakojoa. I honestly don't feel like I understand this guy. At least WSR I understand


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Re: Eisten - Raila amechoma tena - calls Mitumba dead people clothes
« Reply #2 on: June 07, 2022, 09:27:07 AM »
Cut him some slack. He is trying to sell his Manifesto.
Its certain that one if his handlers wrote that speech.
Remember Uhuru had promised to make Kibera a highend  palace.
With Kibera slym dwellers becoming the shareholders of the apartments . Same kiswahili Raila is using. Rather than saying  Textile manufacturing a clothes making instituions will create jobs and absorb Mitumba selling vendors , a slip of the tongue and said Kenyans wear dead people clothes. Musimuonee sana its better than Madoa doa and Kabila adui.

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Re: Eisten - Raila amechoma tena - calls Mitumba dead people clothes
« Reply #3 on: June 07, 2022, 09:30:24 AM »
Dead people clothes worn by 90 percent of kenya.
Just say second hand clothes...
Once again terrible choice of words.

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Re: Eisten - Raila amechoma tena - calls Mitumba dead people clothes
« Reply #4 on: June 07, 2022, 09:32:11 AM »
He does this everyday - now in election period - every word is says he is being scrutinize - any slip of the tounge - and this is where discipline comes in - he has to tame himself and his team - because every word he says - will be used against him.

The next two months - Raila has to be extremely careful - this period he normally proof the naysayers right by saying stupid things.

Ruto has to tame Gachagua - that one likely to say stupid things - like kura ya wakamba ni kidogo - it old clip - but such words can erase all uda efforts in Ukambani. Kabogo lost kiambu in last day of Jubilee nomination ...by denigrating women.

The teams need to strictly stick to the script - without trying to sound funny like Raila - which in this time - will be taken out of context.

Sijui shida yake inakuwanga nini? The other time he was saying ati Mungu anakojoa. I honestly don't feel like I understand this guy. At least WSR I understand

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Re: Eisten - Raila amechoma tena - calls Mitumba dead people clothes
« Reply #5 on: June 07, 2022, 09:37:46 AM »
Yeah a bit part of his foot & mouth is him trying to be funny, but in a weird way that many people don't relate to.

Btw, IF say WSR lost this, on a scale of 1 - 10, how disappointed would you be? Like do you have a big problem with a Raila presidency?

He does this everyday - now in election period - every word is says he is being scrutinize - any slip of the tounge - and this is where discipline comes in - he has to tame himself and his team - because every word he says - will be used against him.

The next two months - Raila has to be extremely careful - this period he normally proof the naysayers right by saying stupid things.

Ruto has to tame Gachagua - that one likely to say stupid things - like kura ya wakamba ni kidogo.

The teams need to strictly stick to the script - without trying to sound funny like Raila - which in this time - will be taken out of context.

Sijui shida yake inakuwanga nini? The other time he was saying ati Mungu anakojoa. I honestly don't feel like I understand this guy. At least WSR I understand

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Re: Eisten - Raila amechoma tena - calls Mitumba dead people clothes
« Reply #6 on: June 07, 2022, 09:40:22 AM »
Is age catching up with him or What?Even in his rallies,He makes some not funny jokes or vulgarity.

He looses track in the middle of conversation.

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Re: Eisten - Raila amechoma tena - calls Mitumba dead people clothes
« Reply #7 on: June 07, 2022, 09:42:23 AM »
He has always been like that - he is a struggling comedian - he tries to sound funny - but sometimes jokes dont come out clearly. And he is also an inciter per excellence...he thrives on dividing people.

Ruto on other hand - is a mchongoano expert.

Is age catching up with him or What?Even in his rallies,He makes some not funny jokes or vulgarity.

He looses track in the middle of conversation.

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Re: Eisten - Raila amechoma tena - calls Mitumba dead people clothes
« Reply #8 on: June 07, 2022, 09:43:10 AM »
100% disappointed. I will move to Uganda and start investing there. Raila and his bunch of morons will make such a mess of the country - it will not take one year before you all come running to Uganda. The man doesnt have the temperament and wisdom to lead..and now in old age...family will take over...and his bunch of crazy followers.

Maybe I am infected by my father - fear of Odinga - :) - my father had no time completely for Raila - or Luos as leaders generally - he held very dim view - and I have come to agree with him - at least on Raila.

Btw, IF say WSR lost this, on a scale of 1 - 10, how disappointed would you be? Like do you have a big problem with a Raila presidency?

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Re: Eisten - Raila amechoma tena - calls Mitumba dead people clothes
« Reply #9 on: June 07, 2022, 09:49:37 AM »
In fact I rather Uhuru continues for 10yrs - at least Kenya will be broke- but will survive.
Raila will turn kenya on it's head.
Uhuru and Moi will be first to be told takataka toka hapa.
In fact Ruto with majority of Mps will be invited to statehouse.
And then Raila revenge mission will begin from 1966!!


Ask Museveni and Uganda what it feels like to be ruled by people who lack wisdom, temperament and maturity.

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Re: Eisten - Raila amechoma tena - calls Mitumba dead people clothes
« Reply #10 on: June 07, 2022, 09:52:06 AM »
In regards to Gachagua let him be . He just needs to play Uhuru and Ruto in 2013 and have a strong PR team. Play politics and let his PR team do the wash up.
Gachagua needs to attack his oponents . Ruto in 2013 was attacking the Ntimamas and calling them Dinasours and Vasco Da Gama. ODM tried to play Ruto but once the people understood the context Ntimama lost his Senators bid.
Unfortunately politics is all about going all out. Why Mt Kenya people aligned with Gachagua is simply he asked where is Mau Maus land. The outcome Uhuru went M.I.A. Im 100% Uhuru would be out there speaking his broken Kikuyu trying to incite GEMA against Ruto. Dawa yake was Gachagua , Moses Kuria started well but Ulevi made him lose focus.
If Uhuru tries to utter a word , Gachagua will be there to give him a dose of his own good medicine.
RV you and Kambas there is a thing , You are always praising them. Is it that you were given a good one ?

He does this everyday - now in election period - every word is says he is being scrutinize - any slip of the tounge - and this is where discipline comes in - he has to tame himself and his team - because every word he says - will be used against him.

The next two months - Raila has to be extremely careful - this period he normally proof the naysayers right by saying stupid things.

Ruto has to tame Gachagua - that one likely to say stupid things - like kura ya wakamba ni kidogo - it old clip - but such words can erase all uda efforts in Ukambani. Kabogo lost kiambu in last day of Jubilee nomination ...by denigrating women.

The teams need to strictly stick to the script - without trying to sound funny like Raila - which in this time - will be taken out of context.

Sijui shida yake inakuwanga nini? The other time he was saying ati Mungu anakojoa. I honestly don't feel like I understand this guy. At least WSR I understand

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Re: Eisten - Raila amechoma tena - calls Mitumba dead people clothes
« Reply #11 on: June 07, 2022, 09:54:18 AM »

And you voted for Raila in 2007 and claim he won. Usitubebe ufala.

100% disappointed. I will move to Uganda and start investing there. Raila and his bunch of morons will make such a mess of the country - it will not take one year before you all come running to Uganda. The man doesnt have the temperament and wisdom to lead..and now in old age...family will take over...and his bunch of crazy followers.

Maybe I am infected by my father - fear of Odinga - :) - my father had no time completely for Raila - or Luos as leaders generally - he held very dim view - and I have come to agree with him - at least on Raila.

Btw, IF say WSR lost this, on a scale of 1 - 10, how disappointed would you be? Like do you have a big problem with a Raila presidency?

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Re: Eisten - Raila amechoma tena - calls Mitumba dead people clothes
« Reply #12 on: June 07, 2022, 09:54:32 AM »
There is very thin line that one has to work on. You have to be careful for example to attack ntimama without attacking Maasai. To attack Kalonzo without attacking Kambas. To attack Raila without attacking Luos. Ruto has Phd in that kind of stuff. He has been able to attack uhuru while not attacking GEMA.

Gachagua is a rough diamond. He need to strictly focus on Uhuru and Mau mau. He can come to Kalenjin land for a breathe. But I would keep him completely off other areas.

Moses Kuria the same - his GEMA propaganda while good - 1 man 1 shs - can cause problem in Non-GEMA.

Only William Ruto has managed the impossible task of pleasing GEMA and NON-GEMA - it's walking a very tight rope.

In regards to Gachagua let him be . He just needs to play Uhuru and Ruto in 2013 and have a strong PR team. Play politics and let his PR team do the wash up.
Gachagua needs to attack his oponents . Ruto in 2013 was attacking the Ntimamas and calling them Dinasours and Vasco Da Gama. ODM tried to play Ruto but once the people understood the context Ntimama lost his Senators bid.
Unfortunately politics is all about going all out. Why Mt Kenya people aligned with Gachagua is simply he asked where is Mau Maus land. The outcome Uhuru went M.I.A. Im 100% Uhuru would be out there speaking his broken Kikuyu trying to incite GEMA against Ruto. Dawa yake was Gachagua , Moses Kuria started well but Ulevi made him lose focus.
If Uhuru tries to utter a word , Gachagua will be there to give him a dose of his own good medicine.
RV you and Kambas there is a thing , You are always praising them. Is it that you were given a good one ?

He does this everyday - now in election period - every word is says he is being scrutinize - any slip of the tounge - and this is where discipline comes in - he has to tame himself and his team - because every word he says - will be used against him.

The next two months - Raila has to be extremely careful - this period he normally proof the naysayers right by saying stupid things.

Ruto has to tame Gachagua - that one likely to say stupid things - like kura ya wakamba ni kidogo - it old clip - but such words can erase all uda efforts in Ukambani. Kabogo lost kiambu in last day of Jubilee nomination ...by denigrating women.

The teams need to strictly stick to the script - without trying to sound funny like Raila - which in this time - will be taken out of context.

Sijui shida yake inakuwanga nini? The other time he was saying ati Mungu anakojoa. I honestly don't feel like I understand this guy. At least WSR I understand

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Re: Eisten - Raila amechoma tena - calls Mitumba dead people clothes
« Reply #13 on: June 07, 2022, 09:58:00 AM »
Kalenjin got angry and basically mad. We simply lost our mind. Somewhere in June-Sept of 2007. Otherwise Kalonzo was our man until very late. Kibaki just kept doing stupid things - Kalenjin thought perfect anti-dote was Raila. Raila was very angry. Kalenjin mission became to punish Kibaki and his gema people. Raila was best man for the job.

I was in home in april of 2007 - extensively - and people wanted Kalonzo - the reason they were distrustful - of Raila maturity to lead. Most kalenjin would laugh if you suggested Raila - :) - saying that was an idiot who cannot lead anybody.

By september crazy things happened,

Ruto was the last to join team Raila. He found Kalenjin had gone ahead of him. He tried to stop the madness - it was too late. He run ahead and pretended to lead the troops.

I still wonder why - but I blame Kass FM - diaspora Kalenjin - in those days Kass fm was everything. Kalenjin diaspora had merged with Luo diaspora and were pushing for Raila...for Change...and strange concept - by Sept - tide had change - Raila was in - Sijui Nilotic nationalism pushed by Diaspora Kalenjin. Kalonzo didnt help - he was basically doing nothing - just looking at opinion polls.

And you voted for Raila in 2007 and claim he won. Usitubebe ufala.

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Re: Eisten - Raila amechoma tena - calls Mitumba dead people clothes
« Reply #14 on: June 07, 2022, 10:05:19 AM »
That period btw April - Sept 2007 was period of great change in Kalenjin politics.
Kalenjin had natural disdain for Raila and his politics.
He was not even under consideration until in Sept 2007 something strange happened.
I think ni uganga?

But generally speaking Kalenjin liked Kalonzo - he was mild mannered and loyal - attributes Kalenjin consider the most important for leadership.

Somewhere along the lines Kalenjin politics became radical.

Kalenjin are ultimate conservatist they hate CHANGE. And now CHANGE was the word.

From conservatism ideals - things became radical - as more and more people got angry - setting stage for 2007 violence.

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Re: Eisten - Raila amechoma tena - calls Mitumba dead people clothes
« Reply #15 on: June 07, 2022, 10:11:22 AM »

One good reason you should never trust opinion polls.
They are always bought. Kalonzo was doing the bidding then came in Raila.
I was a Uhuru supporter then but for sure I knew there was noway Raila could beat Kibaki, We lobied Uhuru to go back to Kibaki or his career was Kaput.
Same case as now , There is noway Raila can beat Ruto with RVGEMA united.  Raila has been buying opinion polls since 2007 .

That period btw April - Sept 2007 was period of great change in Kalenjin politics.
Kalenjin had natural disdain for Raila and his politics.
He was not even under consideration until in Sept 2007 something strange happened.
I think ni uganga?

But generally speaking Kalenjin liked Kalonzo - he was mild mannered and loyal - too attributes Kalenjin consider the most important for leadership

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Re: Eisten - Raila amechoma tena - calls Mitumba dead people clothes
« Reply #16 on: June 07, 2022, 10:12:50 AM »
Opinon polls were and ARE real - the messaging is not on such scale - it few tinkering.
Dont pass nonsenscial rants

One good reason you should never trust opinion polls.
They are always bought. Kalonzo was doing the bidding then came in Raila.
I was a Uhuru supporter then but for sure I knew there was noway Raila could beat Kibaki, We lobied Uhuru to go back to Kibaki or his career was Kaput.
Same case as now , There is noway Raila can beat Ruto with RVGEMA united.  Raila has been buying opinion polls since 2007 .

That period btw April - Sept 2007 was period of great change in Kalenjin politics.
Kalenjin had natural disdain for Raila and his politics.
He was not even under consideration until in Sept 2007 something strange happened.
I think ni uganga?

But generally speaking Kalenjin liked Kalonzo - he was mild mannered and loyal - too attributes Kalenjin consider the most important for leadership

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Re: Eisten - Raila amechoma tena - calls Mitumba dead people clothes
« Reply #17 on: June 07, 2022, 10:16:45 AM »
Yeah Raila needs very very good managers around him. Otherwise there'll even be a major fallout in Azimio. This was actually the biggest decision factor for me in 2013. I wasn't supporting either horse but decided Jubilee like on the eve of the elections, just on the basis of how campaigns were managed. Jubilee campaigns were well run, even if you control for the fact that they had more money. With many young guys like Sakaja leading and Uhuru/WSR not wanting to control everything


In fact I rather Uhuru continues for 10yrs - at least Kenya will be broke- but will survive.
Raila will turn kenya on it's head.
Uhuru and Moi will be first to be told takataka toka hapa.
In fact Ruto with majority of Mps will be invited to statehouse.
And then Raila revenge mission will begin from 1966!!


Ask Museveni and Uganda what it feels like to be ruled by people who lack wisdom, temperament and maturity.

Idi Amin type.

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Re: Eisten - Raila amechoma tena - calls Mitumba dead people clothes
« Reply #18 on: June 07, 2022, 10:20:26 AM »
Does he want them? He thrives in chaos. Chaos will make him powerful. He will simply suspend constitution through high level chaos leaving one rule. He is Greatest Baba of everyone. His supporters will enforce that. Baba will be final. Constitution will be a suggestion.
Yeah Raila needs very very good managers around him. Otherwise there'll even be a major fallout in Azimio. This was actually the biggest decision factor for me in 2013. I wasn't supporting either horse but decided Jubilee like on the eve of the elections, just on the basis of how campaigns were managed. Jubilee campaigns were well run, even if you control for the fact that they had more money. With many young guys like Sakaja leading and Uhuru/WSR not wanting to control everything


In fact I rather Uhuru continues for 10yrs - at least Kenya will be broke- but will survive.
Raila will turn kenya on it's head.
Uhuru and Moi will be first to be told takataka toka hapa.
In fact Ruto with majority of Mps will be invited to statehouse.
And then Raila revenge mission will begin from 1966!!


Ask Museveni and Uganda what it feels like to be ruled by people who lack wisdom, temperament and maturity.

Idi Amin type.

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Re: Eisten - Raila amechoma tena - calls Mitumba dead people clothes
« Reply #19 on: June 07, 2022, 10:22:36 AM »
Hehehe  :D

Does he want them? He thrives in chaos. Chaos will make him powerful. He will simply suspend constitution through high level chaos.
Yeah Raila needs very very good managers around him. Otherwise there'll even be a major fallout in Azimio. This was actually the biggest decision factor for me in 2013. I wasn't supporting either horse but decided Jubilee like on the eve of the elections, just on the basis of how campaigns were managed. Jubilee campaigns were well run, even if you control for the fact that they had more money. With many young guys like Sakaja leading and Uhuru/WSR not wanting to control everything


In fact I rather Uhuru continues for 10yrs - at least Kenya will be broke- but will survive.
Raila will turn kenya on it's head.
Uhuru and Moi will be first to be told takataka toka hapa.
In fact Ruto with majority of Mps will be invited to statehouse.
And then Raila revenge mission will begin from 1966!!


Ask Museveni and Uganda what it feels like to be ruled by people who lack wisdom, temperament and maturity.

Idi Amin type.