Author Topic: Poor Kiunjuri - he had DPORK for taking - he is threatening as Ruto storms  (Read 1757 times)

Offline RV Pundit

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Ruto storming Laikipia as we speak.

Kiunjuri will look back and realize the mistakes he did
1) He did not attack Uhuru enough - he let fear of deep state - overcome him. They have come hard on Gachagua but Gachagua is likely to nick DP and make even more money that he being tried for. Alice Wahome has also been fearless. She is also one of favourite. I dont see how any of the other blowing hot and cold will be considered to rally the angry hustlers of Mt kenya. Ruto will need the fearless and angeriest of them all.

It almost a given both Raila and Ruto will go for Kikuyu DPORK - Raila need to try split Mt Kenya and retain Kambas to have realistic shot.

2) He did not join UDA when he is TSP got no traction.

Kuria was doing well on both fronts - until PDP drunk water and Kiambaa happened. Tacticaly Moses Kuria is great - only problem is coming from Gatundu South. He simply cannot replace Uhuru.

Kiunjuri can still recover - he need to unilaterally fold up TSP and join UDA - and then ATTACK UHURU 24hours 7 days a week.

But now he is with Kuria - threatening Ruto with scare-grow of Raila winning the mountain :) - but they do not want to go to Raila - because they know the ground is anti-Raila.

Now how can you sustain empty threats for next six months of political octane. Negotiation and threats are done the last week of May - when coalition deadline beckon. The last days.

For now they need to re-join hustler nation - and then come April threaten to go Raila way - if they do not get DPORK. But threatening this early - mean Ruto will simply replace you - as more people will be joining UDA - and you'll look very lonely.

These people should pay me for these political punditry.

https://www.the-star.co.ke/siasa/2021-10-09-who-will-capture-mt-kenya-vote-kiunjuri-speaks/

Offline Njuri Ncheke

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Point 1 is valid. However Dont assume you know mt.kenya that well,we know it more than you by far keep off and ask from Noway and I.
Ruto on ground as usual is popular running against baba. But Ruto need not isolate anyone or appear to coerce anyone.mlima loathes that Mbig time.

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This is a joke aint it ? Mt Kenya is not angry with Uhuru  for any tangible reason apart from Joining hands with Raila.
As the elections approach and Uhuru becomes a non factor the anger will turn to Raila. It makes more sense to attack Raila than Uhuru.
Secondly Raila will not go for DP from Mt Kenya . His plan is to win a substantial number of votes from there. It will not succeed having antagonized them for more than 2 decades.

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This scores 100% and Ruto knows it. If Raila decides not to run or Tosha someone else then Ruto will be in big problems

Ruto on ground as usual is popular running against baba.

Point 1 is valid. However Dont assume you know mt.kenya that well,we know it more than you by far keep off and ask from Noway and I.
Ruto on ground as usual is popular running against baba. But Ruto need not isolate anyone or appear to coerce anyone.mlima loathes that Mbig time.

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You both are right and wrong. Let me help you. I have been studying kenya politics since 1990.

Mt kenya feel betrayed by Uhuru for embracing a Raila they thought they had vanguished. Mt kenya hate Raila. Both are angry expression.

Ruto should attack Raila. Mt kenya politician attacking Raila is almost as good as silent one. Everyone is sold on it. Attacking Uhuru is going to get you bonga points.

You need to study human group pyschology. Mt kenya love Ruto coz he knows how to destroy Raila. They wont take kindly if Ruto was to attack Uhuru.The same way you can critcize or punish your kids but wont take kindly to anyone else doing it.

But the same is not true for Mt kenya politician - attacking Raila is 20yrs late - almost everyone in gema is sold on that.

If you see the most popular politicians in mt kenya now - they are those attacking Uhuru - but Ruto will never do that mistake.

For Mt kenya - anyone attacking Raila - who is not mt kenya - is a validation - and they love it. That is how Ruto got inside the mountain by reserving the juiciest of his jibes at Raila at every moment.

Quickest way now for Mt kenya politician to re-election is to express the Mt kenya anger on Uhuru for embracing Raila. But simply shouting Raila is bad is going to bore people to your political death.

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Mt Kenya attacked Moi till his demise(loss of power). As long as Raila is active they will attack him till they sense they have vanguished him.
Uhuru the more he is seen with Raila the more Mt Kenya will try to brimg him down. My Kenya doesnt hate Uhuru they just dont like Raila. For Uhuru its not a first going against the grain he did iy in 2002 and repeated it in 2005 amd were it not for Ruto he would have done it once again in 2013 with Mudavadi. He is actually doing it again with OKA and Raila in 2022.
Now premise the following if Uhuru was to decide to fight Raila now what would be Mt Kenyas reaction ?

You both are right and wrong. Let me help you. I have been studying kenya politics since 1990.

Mt kenya feel betrayed by Uhuru for embracing a Raila they thought they had vanguished. Mt kenya hate Raila. Both are angry expression.

Ruto should attack Raila. Mt kenya politician attacking Raila is almost as good as silent one. Everyone is sold on it. Attacking Uhuru is going to get you bonga points.

You need to study human group pyschology. Mt kenya love Ruto coz he knows how to destroy Raila. They wont take kindly if Ruto was to attack Uhuru.The same way you can critcize or punish your kids but wont take kindly to anyone else doing it.

But the same is not true for Mt kenya politician - attacking Raila is 20yrs late - almost everyone in gema is sold on that.

If you see the most popular politicians in mt kenya now - they are those attacking Uhuru - but Ruto will never do that mistake.

For Mt kenya - anyone attacking Raila - who is not mt kenya - is a validation - and they love it. That is how Ruto got inside the mountain by reserving the juiciest of his jibes at Raila at every moment.

Quickest way now for Mt kenya politician to re-election is to express the Mt kenya anger on Uhuru for embracing Raila. But simply shouting Raila is bad is going to bore people to your political death.

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Simple. He will be forgiven. He might even become an hero if he was to double down it as Machiavellian move. But for now - Mt kenya people are angry with Uhuru. They dont hate him - like they hate Raila.

If I was Mt kenya politician I would express Mt kenya anger Uhuru more - than the hatred against Raila. If I was non-mt kenya politician addressing Mt kenya - I would not touch Uhuru with ten foot pole - but go for Raila like Ruto does.

Mt kenya see Uhuru as a wayward kid that need to be rebuked and punished - but they see Raila as an enemy.

But I see Raila is trying very hard to soften the ground...it maybe be too little too late....it may be a ruse and he is being used as pawn in Uhuru game. I am sure those with Raila knows how hard it is to sell Raila in Mt kenya.

Now premise the following if Uhuru was to decide to fight Raila now what would be Mt Kenyas reaction ?

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One thing with Uhuru between 2013 and 2017 is that he tried  to go for the bird in the bush while leaving the one in hand. Malindi by election was a wake up call. Same van be attributed to Mois mistakr in 2002. Raila is making the same mistake. Imstead of consolidatimg his core base and try to top up here and there . Je has been lied to he can get 30% of Mt Kenya votes. It wont happen.
New generation of born 1995 and above have in theor lifetime seen Raila fighting Mt Kenya to remove that from their heads will require a miracle. Its like our generation and Moi. I started appreciatimg Moi when he was out of power. In the 80s Moi achieved alot. Raila is in the same boat. The only way to defeat Ruto is not to contest.
If he is in the ballot a rallying call will be made that this man has never given up in frustrating Mt Kenya and they will rise up in the morning to vote against him.


Simple. He will be forgiven. He might even become an hero if he was to double down it as Machiavellian move. But for now - Mt kenya people are angry with Uhuru. They dont hate him - like they hate Raila.

If I was Mt kenya politician I would express Mt kenya anger Uhuru more - than the hatred against Raila. If I was non-mt kenya politician addressing Mt kenya - I would not touch Uhuru with ten foot pole - but go for Raila like Ruto does.

Mt kenya see Uhuru as a wayward kid that need to be rebuked and punished - but they see Raila as an enemy.

But I see Raila is trying very hard to soften the ground...it maybe be too little too late....it may be a ruse and he is being used as pawn in Uhuru game. I am sure those with Raila knows how hard it is to sell Raila in Mt kenya.

Now premise the following if Uhuru was to decide to fight Raila now what would be Mt Kenyas reaction ?