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Uhuru the lameduck must be raging when he hears such - Ruto better wear life jacket and helmet like Bobi Wine

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Re: Ruto attack uhuru - calls BBI the biggest fraud - infront of mama mboga
« Reply #1 on: August 31, 2021, 05:50:04 PM »

I saw Matiangi bloggers already peddling the narrative that the loss o Mt Kenya constituencies and CDF funds is because of Ruto. He is neutralizing that narrative and informing Kenyans where the real poison in BBI was.

Last I checked the Constituencies are still there . It will be an uphill task to scrap any Constituencies. Thats a bomb no one would want to touch.

Uhuru the lameduck must be raging when he hears such - Ruto better wear life jacket and helmet like Bobi Wine

https://www.facebook.com/williamsamoei/videos/394323158783360/

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Re: Ruto attack uhuru - calls BBI the biggest fraud - infront of mama mboga
« Reply #2 on: August 31, 2021, 06:00:13 PM »
But surely is anyone hoping whistle blow propaganda online can neutralize Ruto - a gifted propagandist. If Uhuru is not going to be ready to have mano-a-mano with Ruto - then I dont see how they can manage. Ruto is extremely good in propaganda.

I saw Matiangi bloggers already peddling the narrative that the loss o Mt Kenya constituencies and CDF funds is because of Ruto. He is neutralizing that narrative and informing Kenyans where the real poison in BBI was.

Last I checked the Constituencies are still there . It will be an uphill task to scrap any Constituencies. Thats a bomb no one would want to touch.

Uhuru the lameduck must be raging when he hears such - Ruto better wear life jacket and helmet like Bobi Wine

https://www.facebook.com/williamsamoei/videos/394323158783360/

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Re: Ruto attack uhuru - calls BBI the biggest fraud - infront of mama mboga
« Reply #3 on: August 31, 2021, 07:26:19 PM »

You call Ruto a gifted Propagandist and you forget the best people in Propaganda are his foot soldiers , Rigathi Gachagua, Kimani Ichungwa, Moses Kuria , Ndindi Nyoro ,Mohamed Ali, Mwanaisha Juma.
The mixture and combination of Hustler Politicians in propaganda politics is not a joke. I do believe either they have a script writer.

But surely is anyone hoping whistle blow propaganda online can neutralize Ruto - a gifted propagandist. If Uhuru is not going to be ready to have mano-a-mano with Ruto - then I dont see how they can manage. Ruto is extremely good in propaganda.

I saw Matiangi bloggers already peddling the narrative that the loss o Mt Kenya constituencies and CDF funds is because of Ruto. He is neutralizing that narrative and informing Kenyans where the real poison in BBI was.

Last I checked the Constituencies are still there . It will be an uphill task to scrap any Constituencies. Thats a bomb no one would want to touch.

Uhuru the lameduck must be raging when he hears such - Ruto better wear life jacket and helmet like Bobi Wine

https://www.facebook.com/williamsamoei/videos/394323158783360/

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Re: Ruto attack uhuru - calls BBI the biggest fraud - infront of mama mboga
« Reply #4 on: August 31, 2021, 08:41:08 PM »
Dont be a joker. You want to compare WSR with his boys. WSR is of course the script writer. WSR is greatest propagandist in kenya ever. That conclusion I made in the year 2001.

Ruto can sell ANYTHING.

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You call Ruto a gifted Propagandist and you forget the best people in Propaganda are his foot soldiers , Rigathi Gachagua, Kimani Ichungwa, Moses Kuria , Ndindi Nyoro ,Mohamed Ali, Mwanaisha Juma.
The mixture and combination of Hustler Politicians in propaganda politics is not a joke. I do believe either they have a script writer.

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Re: Ruto attack uhuru - calls BBI the biggest fraud - infront of mama mboga
« Reply #5 on: August 31, 2021, 09:05:30 PM »


Ruto has been Presidential in second term. The people doing propaganda have been his   lieutenants and it has been very effective.
Actually after handshake and later Corona  Ruto found himself on the defensive only twitter as a platform and his footsoldiers propaganda made him to still maintain a formidable force.


Dont be a joker. You want to compare WSR with his boys. WSR is of course the script writer. WSR is greatest propagandist in kenya ever. That conclusion I made in the year 2001.

Ruto can sell ANYTHING.

The search function here cannot go far....



You call Ruto a gifted Propagandist and you forget the best people in Propaganda are his foot soldiers , Rigathi Gachagua, Kimani Ichungwa, Moses Kuria , Ndindi Nyoro ,Mohamed Ali, Mwanaisha Juma.
The mixture and combination of Hustler Politicians in propaganda politics is not a joke. I do believe either they have a script writer.

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Re: Ruto attack uhuru - calls BBI the biggest fraud - infront of mama mboga
« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2021, 09:10:54 PM »
My friend Ruto can sell you to your mother. I think you're like Robina new in politics. Ruto knows how to play propaganda at all levels. He is without any peer in political arena when it come to propaganda. He sold Moi, Uhuru Kenyatta, Raila, Uhuru, and now he really has no competition. Selling himself and Uhuru with ICC albastross left the wazungu totally confused to this day. How do the alleged victim of crimes against humanity elect indicted suspect. They are still wondering to this day.

Ruto knows how to influence public opinion, how to sell political ideas, and how to destroy opponents.  He does this with flawless delivery , zero blunders and with devastating punch.

This is what Moi noticed - and this how Ruto rose to join Moi kitchen cabinet in his 30s.

If Raila was to approach Ruto to be his chief salesman in Mt Kenya - he would sell Raila very quickly - as long as Mt kenya accept to listen :)

By end of the year you will believe Raila is the Messiah!!!!!!!! - as long as Raila keep mum. In ODM Ruto would struggle - only for Jakom to completely make blunder - then Ruto would start again - the next he says something stupid.

Ruto has been Presidential in second term. The people doing propaganda have been his   lieutenants and it has been very effective.
Actually after handshake and later Corona  Ruto found himself on the defensive only twitter as a platform and his footsoldiers propaganda made him to still maintain a formidable force.

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Re: Ruto attack uhuru - calls BBI the biggest fraud - infront of mama mboga
« Reply #7 on: August 31, 2021, 09:18:22 PM »
You know me well to say Im new in politics. In secomd term Ruto had to lie low and maintain so as to become Presidemt in 2022 . He did that very well.

I would advice you not to believe your hype ama you are sipping evening Mvinyo. If Ruto was to decide to join hands with Raila that would be the end of his Presidency quest. If hamdshake literally finished Uhuru in Mt Kenya sembuse Ruto.

My friend Ruto can sell you to your mother. I think you're like Robina new in politics. Ruto knows how to play propaganda at all levels. He is without any peer in political arena when it come to propaganda. He sold Moi, Uhuru Kenyatta, Raila, Uhuru, and now he really has no competition. Selling himself and Uhuru with ICC albastross left the wazungu totally confused to this day.

Ruto knows how to influence public opinion, how to sell political ideas, and how to destroy opponents.  He does this with flawless delivery , zero blunders and with devastating punch.

This is what Moi noticed - and this how Ruto rose to join Moi kitchen cabinet in his 30s.

If Raila was to approach Ruto to be his chief salesman in Mt Kenya - he would sell Raila very quickly - as long as Mt kenya accept to listen :)

Ruto has been Presidential in second term. The people doing propaganda have been his   lieutenants and it has been very effective.
Actually after handshake and later Corona  Ruto found himself on the defensive only twitter as a platform and his footsoldiers propaganda made him to still maintain a formidable force.

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Re: Ruto attack uhuru - calls BBI the biggest fraud - infront of mama mboga
« Reply #8 on: August 31, 2021, 09:22:36 PM »
If you were not new to politics - you will not dare compare Ruto with small boys on their 1st term in siasa. Ruto was doing what those guys are doing now in 1992. I bet all the talking points and attack strategy are coming from WSR.

I really pity anybody going against Ruto - because Ruto can turn anything upside down - he understand human pyschology, has motor mouth, a brain and cunningness.

If Uhuru want to go home MINUS ANY LEGACY - let him attack Ruto. Today Ruto fired more warning shot on his BBI legacy - calling it total rubbish. He will continue to attack it - in a convincing way - soon everyone will think Uhuru is indeed total rubbish.

Raila is the 2nd in propaganda. His only problem is lack of discipline. And he is not versatile...once Ruto destroyed his kitendawili and methalis by incessantly mocking him - he got confused. He cannot make a straight speech without getting foot in the mouth - so methalis and kitendawilis were helping him mask his inciteful nature.

Raila I think at his propaganda best btw 2000 to 2010 - then Ruto took over.

You know me well to say Im new in politics. In secomd term Ruto had to lie low and maintain so as to become Presidemt in 2022 . He did that very well.

I would advice you not to believe your hype ama you are sipping evening Mvinyo. If Ruto was to decide to join hands with Raila that would be the end of his Presidency quest. If hamdshake literally finished Uhuru in Mt Kenya sembuse Ruto.

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Re: Ruto attack uhuru - calls BBI the biggest fraud - infront of mama mboga
« Reply #9 on: August 31, 2021, 09:35:12 PM »

You need to interact with the people on ground to understand the extend of how the propaganda by hustler politicians has taken root and changed the tides in Mt Kenya.
Even Jubilee and Kieleweleke politicians attest to this. One of their talking points in imterviews and their rebranding meetings is that Tangatanga politicians are very good in propaganda and they have to step up their game to undo the propaganda.

In the second term Ruto has mainly focused in telling the truth amd somewhat being a gentleman . Even in Rallies he would  try to be a statesman after his foot soldiers have done the damage with politics.
At one point you were very frustrated and you were crying he needs to start throwing bareknuckle punches.
If you were not new to politics - you will not dare compare Ruto with small boys on their 1st term in siasa. Ruto was doing what those guys are doing now in 1992. I bet all the talking points and attack strategy are coming from WSR.

I really pity anybody going against Ruto - because Ruto can turn anything upside down - he understand human pyschology, has motor mouth, a brain and cunningness.

You know me well to say Im new in politics. In secomd term Ruto had to lie low and maintain so as to become Presidemt in 2022 . He did that very well.

I would advice you not to believe your hype ama you are sipping evening Mvinyo. If Ruto was to decide to join hands with Raila that would be the end of his Presidency quest. If hamdshake literally finished Uhuru in Mt Kenya sembuse Ruto.

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Re: Ruto attack uhuru - calls BBI the biggest fraud - infront of mama mboga
« Reply #10 on: August 31, 2021, 09:48:45 PM »
Ukiona vyaelea jua vimeundwa. Who came up with all that propaganda if not Ruto. Those are boys who are given talking points. They dont know propaganda my friend. They go to the rally - Ruto tell them say this - attack xyz - and then Ruto does a 360 - and act like a stateman. Do not be naive.

Before any rally - everything is planned - Raila used to even rehearse his speeches!

They know who will say what - most will attack - and then Ruto will dismiss them - turn 360 - and act  a statemen. That is PROPAGANDA 101.

See that GSU thing. Objective has been achieved. They have attacked and defended at the same time :) - propanganda 360 - that leave the opponent totally paralysed.

Your totally NAIVE. - you think top politician just go to a rally - and everyone speak their mind. No. Everything is agreed. They know XYZ will attack Uhuru..then Ruto will pretend to defend him and act as stateman. Sometimes when Ruto need to go into attack - he goes. Only when he is responding to equal like Raila or Ruto or Kalonzo


You need to interact with the people on ground to understand the extend of how the propaganda by hustler politicians has taken root and changed the tides in Mt Kenya.
Even Jubilee and Kieleweleke politicians attest to this. One of their talking points in imterviews and their rebranding meetings is that Tangatanga politicians are very good in propaganda and they have to step up their game to undo the propaganda.

In the second term Ruto has mainly focused in telling the truth amd somewhat being a gentleman . Even in Rallies he would  try to be a statesman after his foot soldiers have done the damage with politics.
At one point you were very frustrated and you were crying he needs to start throwing bareknuckle punches.

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Re: Ruto attack uhuru - calls BBI the biggest fraud - infront of mama mboga
« Reply #11 on: September 01, 2021, 04:21:39 AM »

what I know is Ruto sanctions the narrative and i dividual politicians come up with the stories and what to say. Where creativity comes in.
They also have a Whatsup group where they discuss the talking points. Many a times Ruto has had to come in and request them to change some things like the agenda against Huduma Number ane the attack on Uhurus imediate family.

Look wt Ngunjiri message below .You cant tell me Ruto told him to say this . These are politicians with their own talents.



Ukiona vyaelea jua vimeundwa. Who came up with all that propaganda if not Ruto. Those are boys who are given talking points. They dont know propaganda my friend. They go to the rally - Ruto tell them say this - attack xyz - and then Ruto does a 360 - and act like a stateman. Do not be naive.

Before any rally - everything is planned - Raila used to even rehearse his speeches!

They know who will say what - most will attack - and then Ruto will dismiss them - turn 360 - and act  a statemen. That is PROPAGANDA 101.

See that GSU thing. Objective has been achieved. They have attacked and defended at the same time :) - propanganda 360 - that leave the opponent totally paralysed.

Your totally NAIVE. - you think top politician just go to a rally - and everyone speak their mind. No. Everything is agreed. They know XYZ will attack Uhuru..then Ruto will pretend to defend him and act as stateman. Sometimes when Ruto need to go into attack - he goes. Only when he is responding to equal like Raila or Ruto or Kalonzo


You need to interact with the people on ground to understand the extend of how the propaganda by hustler politicians has taken root and changed the tides in Mt Kenya.
Even Jubilee and Kieleweleke politicians attest to this. One of their talking points in imterviews and their rebranding meetings is that Tangatanga politicians are very good in propaganda and they have to step up their game to undo the propaganda.

In the second term Ruto has mainly focused in telling the truth amd somewhat being a gentleman . Even in Rallies he would  try to be a statesman after his foot soldiers have done the damage with politics.
At one point you were very frustrated and you were crying he needs to start throwing bareknuckle punches.

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Re: Ruto attack uhuru - calls BBI the biggest fraud - infront of mama mboga
« Reply #12 on: September 01, 2021, 04:26:28 AM »
Now Ruto on the podium doing what he has been doing best in 2nd term cleaning the airwaves.


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Re: Ruto attack uhuru - calls BBI the biggest fraud - infront of mama mboga
« Reply #13 on: September 01, 2021, 04:32:16 AM »
 A lot of Propaganda has been used during Radio and TV talk shows.
A lot of the damage to Uhuru in Mt Kenya was done there.

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Re: Ruto attack uhuru - calls BBI the biggest fraud - infront of mama mboga
« Reply #14 on: September 01, 2021, 05:45:02 AM »
On BBI fiasco, Ruto is in fact not engaging in propaganda. He does not have to.

Ruto and Team Hustler are simply reading BBI Post Mortem findings, specifically that BBI died a stillbirth because of THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM - trying to PIGGYBACK Raila to Statehouse on other otherwise good ideas.

Uhuru has to engage in propaganda to counter Ruto's reasonable and well received message on why BBI was dead on arrival.

Uhuru also owes Raila and ODM and Luo's an apology - He must have known all along that BBI na handshake was the nonsense that would hypnotize. As a Kikuyu, "Maheni" of this nature may require a cleansing ceremony. And as a Catholic, he'll need to go for confession.

Contrary to RVP's opinion that there maybe violence in RV, the violence is most likely to come from stone throwers when they realize that Hand Shake and BBI manenos was just a joy ride diversion from distruptive Tear gass mondays.


You call Ruto a gifted Propagandist and you forget the best people in Propaganda are his foot soldiers , Rigathi Gachagua, Kimani Ichungwa, Moses Kuria , Ndindi Nyoro ,Mohamed Ali, Mwanaisha Juma.
The mixture and combination of Hustler Politicians in propaganda politics is not a joke. I do believe either they have a script writer.

But surely is anyone hoping whistle blow propaganda online can neutralize Ruto - a gifted propagandist. If Uhuru is not going to be ready to have mano-a-mano with Ruto - then I dont see how they can manage. Ruto is extremely good in propaganda.

I saw Matiangi bloggers already peddling the narrative that the loss o Mt Kenya constituencies and CDF funds is because of Ruto. He is neutralizing that narrative and informing Kenyans where the real poison in BBI was.

Last I checked the Constituencies are still there . It will be an uphill task to scrap any Constituencies. Thats a bomb no one would want to touch.

Uhuru the lameduck must be raging when he hears such - Ruto better wear life jacket and helmet like Bobi Wine

https://www.facebook.com/williamsamoei/videos/394323158783360/

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Re: Ruto attack uhuru - calls BBI the biggest fraud - infront of mama mboga
« Reply #15 on: September 01, 2021, 07:25:23 AM »
Ruto never opposed BBI. He was busy fence sitting
2 Timothy 2:4  No man that warreth entangleth himself with the affairs of this life; that he may please him who hath chosen him to be a soldier.

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Re: Ruto attack uhuru - calls BBI the biggest fraud - infront of mama mboga
« Reply #16 on: September 01, 2021, 07:36:05 AM »
This was one year. Ruto I suspect was one financing most of the legal cases against BBI. Ruto fought BBI very intelligently - he didnt expend more time and energy - than the rubbish required. He concentrated on hustler/bottom up as opposition to BBI and it's paying off
Ruto never opposed BBI. He was busy fence sitting

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Re: Ruto attack uhuru - calls BBI the biggest fraud - infront of mama mboga
« Reply #17 on: September 01, 2021, 07:53:17 AM »

When you were openly opposed to his approach of BBI. Now pretending that you fully supported. RV to be honest with You if Ruto went with the way you have been proposing he would be trailing in the Presidential quest. You suggestions smells of Railas strategy of 2003-2007 which has cost the Presidency untill now. Stop pretending you are in Rutos inner circle. You are not and can never be.

This was one year. Ruto I suspect was one financing most of the legal cases against BBI. Ruto fought BBI very intelligently - he didnt expend more time and energy - than the rubbish required.
Ruto never opposed BBI. He was busy fence sitting

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Re: Ruto attack uhuru - calls BBI the biggest fraud - infront of mama mboga
« Reply #18 on: September 01, 2021, 08:09:57 AM »
Classic strawman argument. You wanted Ruto to support this BBI rubbish. I wanted Ruto to oppose BBI.I believe Ruto opposed BBI in an intelligent way - he never supported it. Of course I am not in Ruto inner circle - and I dont recall pretending to be in. I make my points and arguments - and I leave them here.
When you were openly opposed to his approach of BBI. Now pretending that you fully supported. RV to be honest with You if Ruto went with the way you have been proposing he would be trailing in the Presidential quest. You suggestions smells of Railas strategy of 2003-2007 which has cost the Presidency untill now. Stop pretending you are in Rutos inner circle. You are not and can never be.

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Re: Ruto attack uhuru - calls BBI the biggest fraud - infront of mama mboga
« Reply #19 on: September 01, 2021, 08:21:25 AM »
Yeah right

When Ruto realized BBI was heading to the referendum he cobbled up 'proposals'. He even backtracked on Ombudsman feebly insisting on Judiciary role in his appointment

Fence sitter he was.

Of course now that it's dead he can pee on it but only the brain-dead forget his flip flopping




This was one year. Ruto I suspect was one financing most of the legal cases against BBI. Ruto fought BBI very intelligently - he didnt expend more time and energy - than the rubbish required. He concentrated on hustler/bottom up as opposition to BBI and it's paying off
Ruto never opposed BBI. He was busy fence sitting
2 Timothy 2:4  No man that warreth entangleth himself with the affairs of this life; that he may please him who hath chosen him to be a soldier.