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Re: Kiunjuri struggling - look like he has been told to fold TSP
« Reply #20 on: July 24, 2021, 05:19:14 PM »
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Re: Kiunjuri struggling - look like he has been told to fold TSP
« Reply #21 on: July 24, 2021, 05:38:39 PM »
RV you should marry Robina , You make a good couple, dont ask why ....

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Re: Kiunjuri struggling - look like he has been told to fold TSP
« Reply #22 on: July 24, 2021, 06:28:07 PM »
RV you should marry Robina , You make a good couple, dont ask why ....
it's unethical for a master to have relationship with his subjects..the power relationship is such that robina feels compelled to say yes.I can only marry my equal..not my student

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Re: Kiunjuri struggling - look like he has been told to fold TSP
« Reply #23 on: July 24, 2021, 06:29:45 PM »
Why do likes of Khalwale go to Ruto? Kakamega is Mdvd area not Ruto. Unlesss Mdvd goes Ruto Khalwale will wind up 20% ala 2017. These guys - Omar, Khalwale, Echesa - are only eating Ruto cash just as you accuse Balalas. At least those are eating GoK cash not Uhuru or Raila.
obviously khawale is for the money after loosing to oparanya..echeza n the likes are utility players

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Re: Kiunjuri struggling - look like he has been told to fold TSP
« Reply #24 on: July 24, 2021, 06:33:43 PM »
Yes. And Raila BBI proper or BBI-in-100 days strings all those people easily. Using hybrid - they get to sneak in as MP, remain kingpin as CS or whatever. Ruto has nothing - so at most Kingi or Nanok have ZERO MOTIVATION - to actively back Ruto. What for? A super-ambitious featherweight like Mutua has no reason at all to back Ruto. Notice how Savula or Chris Wamalwa will fight tooth & nail with something real to gain. Wa Iria sees nothing in Ruto or UDA.

Sakaja unless Uhuru help him - has very small hope of landing Nairobi governor. Because even as Handshake lineup take shape - Mdvd-Weta will be given carte blanche in Western. Nairobi iko wenyewe. But I get he has no choice in ODM congested house so he needs Mdvd to edge himself into NASA inner circle.

Sakaja want to be Nairobi governor. He knows he has to play Luhya card before anything. Which is why he has run to maDVD. Otherwise if he wanted senate - he'd keep it. Sakaja knows Ruto - will do what GEMA wants in Nairobi. Sonko was a complication but seem he isolated himself by being too smart.

After Weta - who can at least deliver 2 counties - we have one county kind of guys - exiting - Joho, oparany, nanok, ojammong, kingi, mvurya - some of them really have very little say - for example Mvurya come from duruma in kwale where the Digos are the majority - someone like Narok governor Tunai is almost useless - he comes from tiny Maasai clan of Siria and has been governor almost exclusively on kipsigis backing - against the popolous Purko clan of Ntimama. Ruto therefore has cut a deal with Ntutus who are paramount chiefs of Purko for them to go for governorship with backing of Kalenjin - and deny Raila's Maasai Purko votes.

So yes of course Nanok, Kingi, Joho, Oparanya, Ongwae,mvury,ojaamong - are some of exiting governors from small tribes that can influence 1-2 percent of the national vote - and they should expect to similarly get 2-3 percent of the power - they at best can bring half the county they currently run.
BBI is dead... as dodo.Raila has nothing to offer.Its Ruto who having cracked Mt Kenya can offer something.Ruto need small push over the 50 percent but Raila need everyone and their uncles.That problem.It easy for Ruto to finish this.

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Re: Kiunjuri struggling - look like he has been told to fold TSP
« Reply #25 on: July 24, 2021, 10:21:10 PM »
Why do likes of Khalwale go to Ruto? Kakamega is Mdvd area not Ruto. Unlesss Mdvd goes Ruto Khalwale will wind up 20% ala 2017. These guys - Omar, Khalwale, Echesa - are only eating Ruto cash just as you accuse Balalas. At least those are eating GoK cash not Uhuru or Raila.
obviously khawale is for the money after loosing to oparanya..echeza n the likes are utility players

Malala will wipe the floor with Khalwale. There will be small fight in ANC primaries - but I don't think even incorrigible Savula stands a chance against Malala.
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Re: Kiunjuri struggling - look like he has been told to fold TSP
« Reply #26 on: July 24, 2021, 10:26:19 PM »
BBI is dead... as dodo.Raila has nothing to offer.Its Ruto who having cracked Mt Kenya can offer something.Ruto need small push over the 50 percent but Raila need everyone and their uncles.That problem.It easy for Ruto to finish this.

BBI has a good chance of resurrection. Ruto worst nightmare. Plan B is BBI-in-100 days ala NARC new katiba - expect same lineup of NASA plus Uhuru poodle. Plan C is katikati ticket toshwad by Raila-Uhuru.

Ruto is in plan B after Uhuru betrayal. If Uhuru manage to slice off huge Gema block - you might need plan C - looks very likely.
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Re: Kiunjuri struggling - look like he has been told to fold TSP
« Reply #27 on: July 24, 2021, 11:03:42 PM »
Savula has money. Malala has big mouth. Khawale has big mouth and Ruto money - and he comes from Central kakamega. And Oparanya is backing his deputy. So Kakamega is anybody for taking. ANC candidate will have headstart - and I dont know how maDVD will resolve Malala/Sivula battle - if he manages - the ANC could get at least one governor considering ODM's Bunyore have Vihiga and may still retain it.
Malala will wipe the floor with Khalwale. There will be small fight in ANC primaries - but I don't think even incorrigible Savula stands a chance against Malala.