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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: Nefertiti on June 15, 2020, 09:47:30 AM
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I never thought Kalenjin were in such numbers they could make MCA - mmh - in Rumuruti Laikipia.
I don't see anybody dumping Ruto - they are supporting Wanjohi to finish his two terms and go home.
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Pundit, wake up and smell the coffee. The same politicians who yesterday were abusing Uhuru in public have today gone silent. Iko kitu. The tide is swimming against your man. He made the biggest mistake a marathon runner can make. Make an early sprint. The competitors can only catch up.
I never thought Kalenjin were in such numbers they could make MCA - mmh - in Rumuruti Laikipia.
I don't see anybody dumping Ruto - they are supporting Wanjohi to finish his two terms and go home.
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Ruto has instructed his troops to do that. He himself he is doing that. Ruto is not running against Uhuru. When someone swear allegiance to Uhuru - it waste of time and money - because he is going home.
Ruto realizes the trap by ODM and Raila was to goad him into a useless war with someone who is retiring.
Pundit, wake up and smell the coffee. The same politicians who yesterday were abusing Uhuru in public have today gone silent. Iko kitu. The tide is swimming against your man. He made the biggest mistake a marathon runner can make. Make an early sprint. The competitors can only catch up.
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Raila supporters are getting excited for nothing. Since the promulgation of the new cosntitution and opening up of democracy space Its a fact that only 20% of the elected politicians make it back.
And as time goes by and the electorate become more complex the percentage continies to dwindle.
Its a known fact inside the poltician circles that majority of the serving politicians wont make it back in 2022 be it pro Ruto Pro Raila Pro Uhuru Politicians .The predicition is that only 5 % will be able to be relected , so forget about elected mps senotors governors etc the focus should shift to the wanjiku. What is wanjiku feeling ? What does wanjiku want ? So far only one politician in the name of Ruto has been able to relate to the feelings of Wanjiku. As per previous experience even the change of constitution wont influence how Wanjiku will vote in 2022. Ask Raila of the rude awakening he receiveidnin 2013.
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:D And why does Uhuru need "support" from MCAs to finish his term? Didn't he need support when they were insulting him since 2018?
Pundit, wake up and smell the coffee. The same politicians who yesterday were abusing Uhuru in public have today gone silent. Iko kitu. The tide is swimming against your man. He made the biggest mistake a marathon runner can make. Make an early sprint. The competitors can only catch up.
I never thought Kalenjin were in such numbers they could make MCA - mmh - in Rumuruti Laikipia.
I don't see anybody dumping Ruto - they are supporting Wanjohi to finish his two terms and go home.
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I thought Ruto has GEMA ground - why the kowtowing to Uhuru? Even if there was a by-election in GEMA - Tangatanga would back Uhuru candidate rather than expose their hustler hot air
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Because he wants to be loved so much he chartered a plane to Bomet to collect Isaac Ruto from his cowshed. That is when Jubilee realized Wanjohi need to be pampered and supported to complete his term.
He is angry that Ruto is more popular than him...and now people have to pledge loyalty to him :)
:D And why does Uhuru need "support" from MCAs to finish his term? Didn't he need support when they were insulting him since 2018?
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Until Uhuru ammend Katiba, I don't think he is opponent to Ruto.
I thought Ruto has GEMA ground - why the kowtowing to Uhuru? Even if there was a by-election in GEMA - Tangatanga would back Uhuru candidate rather than expose their hustler hot air
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Why does Ruto and Tangatanga OBLIGE him - if they are more popular? Your spin is now ridiculous.
Because he wants to be loved so much he chartered a plane to Bomet to collect Isaac Ruto from his cowshed. That is when Jubilee realized Wanjohi need to be pampered and supported to complete his term.
He is angry that Ruto is more popular than him...and now people have to pledge loyalty to him :)
:D And why does Uhuru need "support" from MCAs to finish his term? Didn't he need support when they were insulting him since 2018?
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Pundit as you chase your own tail - Uhuru is chattering chopper for Isaac and crowning Kamar, Poghisio, Gideon to contain Ruto. Once they hang Ruto and anoint Moi Jr - Kalenjin will not be bothered by Ruto personal problems. Oh, wait - has Ruto ordered Isaac and Kamar to pamper Uhuru? :)
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This is the game Ruto understands very well. Defection. Invented by youth for Kanu way back in 1992. Ruto victim of bad advice, and kindergarten strategy. Biggest mistake surrounds himself with fools. No major tribal chief can come to his rescue.
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You're a joke if you think anybody can challenge WSR in Kalenjinland :)
Pundit as you chase your own tail - Uhuru is chattering chopper for Isaac and crowning Kamar, Poghisio, Gideon to contain Ruto. Once they hang Ruto and anoint Moi Jr - Kalenjin will not be bothered by Ruto personal problems. Oh, wait - has Ruto ordered Isaac and Kamar to pamper Uhuru? :)
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Ruto being king in kalenjin land should not be in dispute for now. But that's a major climb down from Nationals, regionals to tribal chief. Uhuru allowing Ruto to interfere with 2017 nominations and general elections is what has brought him all that grief. Ruto stock is declining day by day. The man is not bankable.
You're a joke if you think anybody can challenge WSR in Kalenjinland :)
Pundit as you chase your own tail - Uhuru is chattering chopper for Isaac and crowning Kamar, Poghisio, Gideon to contain Ruto. Once they hang Ruto and anoint Moi Jr - Kalenjin will not be bothered by Ruto personal problems. Oh, wait - has Ruto ordered Isaac and Kamar to pamper Uhuru? :)
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You nailed it again. The legacy Ouru is chasing is not economic but political. Nobody remembers which president built which road but a political legacy is what goes into the history books. That legacy does not include Ruto's political divisive Kalenjin/Kikuyu alliance which almost brought this country into a civil war and talk of session. The country is not going back to the 2013/2017 politics and Ruto has no other viable options that would be consistent with Ouru's desired legacy of bringing back Luos to the fold.
Ruto being king in kalenjin land should not be in dispute for now. But that's a major climb down from Nationals, regionals to tribal chief. Uhuru allowing Ruto to interfere with 2017 nominations and general elections is what has brought him all that grief. Ruto stock is declining day by day. The man is not bankable.
You're a joke if you think anybody can challenge WSR in Kalenjinland :)
Pundit as you chase your own tail - Uhuru is chattering chopper for Isaac and crowning Kamar, Poghisio, Gideon to contain Ruto. Once they hang Ruto and anoint Moi Jr - Kalenjin will not be bothered by Ruto personal problems. Oh, wait - has Ruto ordered Isaac and Kamar to pamper Uhuru? :)
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You nailed it again. The legacy Ouru is chasing is not economic but political. Nobody remembers which president built which road but a political legacy is what goes into the history books. That legacy does not include Ruto's political divisive Kalenjin/Kikuyu alliance which almost brought this country into a civil war and talk of session. The country is not going back to the 2013/2017 politics and Ruto has no other viable options that would be consistent with Ouru's desired legacy of bringing back Luos to the fold.
Ruto being king in kalenjin land should not be in dispute for now. But that's a major climb down from Nationals, regionals to tribal chief. Uhuru allowing Ruto to interfere with 2017 nominations and general elections is what has brought him all that grief. Ruto stock is declining day by day. The man is not bankable.
You're a joke if you think anybody can challenge WSR in Kalenjinland :)
Pundit as you chase your own tail - Uhuru is chattering chopper for Isaac and crowning Kamar, Poghisio, Gideon to contain Ruto. Once they hang Ruto and anoint Moi Jr - Kalenjin will not be bothered by Ruto personal problems. Oh, wait - has Ruto ordered Isaac and Kamar to pamper Uhuru? :)
You are being insincire ,whenever people use Thiks road they always mention how greatful they for Kibaki expanding it.
Talking of Mt Kenya and Rift Valley alliance this is o e thing that the world is aware of for Uhuru and Ruto bringing the 2 communities together . Theis could pass as a legacy . Heck even Ocampo in his last interview about Ocampo 6 after 2013 elelections acknowelgded it and went on to say he was impressed that for the first time in many years there was no violence during 2013 elections and this was thanks to Ruto. There was alot of pressure on Ruto on his association with Uhuru and Mt Kenya but he stick to his guns.
Odm and Raila were very sure that RV would not ote for Uhuru they were mistaken in 2022 the same ODmers are saying Mt Kenya wont vote for Uhuru they will have a rude awakening .
Isnt it amazing how many times ODmers have gotten it wrong all those years by 2022 ot will be 15 years of continous failing.
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Precisely. Uhuru can only cement his legacy if he builds on top of Jubilee's political and economic achievement. How can movement that scored 55% of Kenya votes not be sustainable?
if he destroys Jubilee and jumps around with big 4 - he will achieve nothing. He has 18 months - realistic - he has just this COVID-19 budget to do anything worthwhile. Maybe get the SGR to Malaba and fix the water. The hand over a peaceful country.
All he needed to do is nick the electricity to universal coverage, increase paving of roads to even 30K, and then handover to Ruto a stable country - and his legacy would be so great.
But look at him now - neither loved by Jubilee nor NASA - and universally hated and despised.
And if he takes kenya back to 2007 PEV - he will not be going for retirement - but will be shipped to ICC. PORK Raila will be happy to send him and Ruto to go settle it there again :)
You nailed it again. The legacy Ouru is chasing is not economic but political. Nobody remembers which president built which road but a political legacy is what goes into the history books. That legacy does not include Ruto's political divisive Kalenjin/Kikuyu alliance which almost brought this country into a civil war and talk of session. The country is not going back to the 2013/2017 politics and Ruto has no other viable options that would be consistent with Ouru's desired legacy of bringing back Luos to the fold.
Ruto being king in kalenjin land should not be in dispute for now. But that's a major climb down from Nationals, regionals to tribal chief. Uhuru allowing Ruto to interfere with 2017 nominations and general elections is what has brought him all that grief. Ruto stock is declining day by day. The man is not bankable.
You're a joke if you think anybody can challenge WSR in Kalenjinland :)
Pundit as you chase your own tail - Uhuru is chattering chopper for Isaac and crowning Kamar, Poghisio, Gideon to contain Ruto. Once they hang Ruto and anoint Moi Jr - Kalenjin will not be bothered by Ruto personal problems. Oh, wait - has Ruto ordered Isaac and Kamar to pamper Uhuru? :)
You are being insincire ,whenever people use Thiks road they always mention how greatful they for Kibaki expanding it.
Talking of Mt Kenya and Rift Valley alliance this is o e thing that the world is aware of for Uhuru and Ruto bringing the 2 communities together . Theis could pass as a legacy . Heck even Ocampo in his last interview about Ocampo 6 after 2013 elelections acknowelgded it and went on to say he was impressed that for the first time in many years there was no violence during 2013 elections and this was thanks to Ruto. There was alot of pressure on Ruto on his association with Uhuru and Mt Kenya but he stick to his guns.
Odm and Raila were very sure that RV would not ote for Uhuru they were mistaken in 2022 the same ODmers are saying Mt Kenya wont vote for Uhuru they will have a rude awakening .
Isnt it amazing how many times ODmers have gotten it wrong all those years by 2022 ot will be 15 years of continous failing.
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Precisely, 55% was rigged and that is why it could not sustain politically stability. Compare that to handshake which literally took a country tittering at the verge of chaos to a political stable country literally within seconds of the act itself. You have to be tone deaf not to get it.
Precisely. Uhuru can only cement his legacy if he builds on top of Jubilee's political and economic achievement. How can movement that scored 55% of Kenya votes not be sustainable?
if he destroys Jubilee and jumps around with big 4 - he will achieve nothing. He has 18 months - realistic - he has just this COVID-19 budget to do anything worthwhile. Maybe get the SGR to Malaba and fix the water. The hand over a peaceful country.
All he needed to do is nick the electricity to universal coverage, increase paving of roads to even 30K, and then handover to Ruto a stable country - and his legacy would be so great.
But look at him now - neither loved by Jubilee nor NASA - and universally hated and despised.
And if he takes kenya back to 2007 PEV - he will not be going for retirement - but will be shipped to ICC. PORK Raila will be happy to send him and Ruto to go settle it there again :)
You nailed it again. The legacy Ouru is chasing is not economic but political. Nobody remembers which president built which road but a political legacy is what goes into the history books. That legacy does not include Ruto's political divisive Kalenjin/Kikuyu alliance which almost brought this country into a civil war and talk of session. The country is not going back to the 2013/2017 politics and Ruto has no other viable options that would be consistent with Ouru's desired legacy of bringing back Luos to the fold.
Ruto being king in kalenjin land should not be in dispute for now. But that's a major climb down from Nationals, regionals to tribal chief. Uhuru allowing Ruto to interfere with 2017 nominations and general elections is what has brought him all that grief. Ruto stock is declining day by day. The man is not bankable.
You're a joke if you think anybody can challenge WSR in Kalenjinland :)
Pundit as you chase your own tail - Uhuru is chattering chopper for Isaac and crowning Kamar, Poghisio, Gideon to contain Ruto. Once they hang Ruto and anoint Moi Jr - Kalenjin will not be bothered by Ruto personal problems. Oh, wait - has Ruto ordered Isaac and Kamar to pamper Uhuru? :)
You are being insincire ,whenever people use Thiks road they always mention how greatful they for Kibaki expanding it.
Talking of Mt Kenya and Rift Valley alliance this is o e thing that the world is aware of for Uhuru and Ruto bringing the 2 communities together . Theis could pass as a legacy . Heck even Ocampo in his last interview about Ocampo 6 after 2013 elelections acknowelgded it and went on to say he was impressed that for the first time in many years there was no violence during 2013 elections and this was thanks to Ruto. There was alot of pressure on Ruto on his association with Uhuru and Mt Kenya but he stick to his guns.
Odm and Raila were very sure that RV would not ote for Uhuru they were mistaken in 2022 the same ODmers are saying Mt Kenya wont vote for Uhuru they will have a rude awakening .
Isnt it amazing how many times ODmers have gotten it wrong all those years by 2022 ot will be 15 years of continous failing.
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Precisely, 55% was rigged and that is why it could not sustain politically stability. Compare that to handshake which literally took a country tittering at the verge of chaos to a political stable country literally within seconds of the act itself. You have to be tone deaf not to get it.
Precisely. Uhuru can only cement his legacy if he builds on top of Jubilee's political and economic achievement. How can movement that scored 55% of Kenya votes not be sustainable?
if he destroys Jubilee and jumps around with big 4 - he will achieve nothing. He has 18 months - realistic - he has just this COVID-19 budget to do anything worthwhile. Maybe get the SGR to Malaba and fix the water. The hand over a peaceful country.
All he needed to do is nick the electricity to universal coverage, increase paving of roads to even 30K, and then handover to Ruto a stable country - and his legacy would be so great.
But look at him now - neither loved by Jubilee nor NASA - and universally hated and despised.
And if he takes kenya back to 2007 PEV - he will not be going for retirement - but will be shipped to ICC. PORK Raila will be happy to send him and Ruto to go settle it there again :)
You nailed it again. The legacy Ouru is chasing is not economic but political. Nobody remembers which president built which road but a political legacy is what goes into the history books. That legacy does not include Ruto's political divisive Kalenjin/Kikuyu alliance which almost brought this country into a civil war and talk of session. The country is not going back to the 2013/2017 politics and Ruto has no other viable options that would be consistent with Ouru's desired legacy of bringing back Luos to the fold.
Ruto being king in kalenjin land should not be in dispute for now. But that's a major climb down from Nationals, regionals to tribal chief. Uhuru allowing Ruto to interfere with 2017 nominations and general elections is what has brought him all that grief. Ruto stock is declining day by day. The man is not bankable.
You're a joke if you think anybody can challenge WSR in Kalenjinland :)
Pundit as you chase your own tail - Uhuru is chattering chopper for Isaac and crowning Kamar, Poghisio, Gideon to contain Ruto. Once they hang Ruto and anoint Moi Jr - Kalenjin will not be bothered by Ruto personal problems. Oh, wait - has Ruto ordered Isaac and Kamar to pamper Uhuru? :)
You are being insincire ,whenever people use Thiks road they always mention how greatful they for Kibaki expanding it.
Talking of Mt Kenya and Rift Valley alliance this is o e thing that the world is aware of for Uhuru and Ruto bringing the 2 communities together . Theis could pass as a legacy . Heck even Ocampo in his last interview about Ocampo 6 after 2013 elelections acknowelgded it and went on to say he was impressed that for the first time in many years there was no violence during 2013 elections and this was thanks to Ruto. There was alot of pressure on Ruto on his association with Uhuru and Mt Kenya but he stick to his guns.
Odm and Raila were very sure that RV would not ote for Uhuru they were mistaken in 2022 the same ODmers are saying Mt Kenya wont vote for Uhuru they will have a rude awakening .
Isnt it amazing how many times ODmers have gotten it wrong all those years by 2022 ot will be 15 years of continous failing.
Actually its to the contrary the fact is post handshake Kenya economy growth slowed down from a 6.3 %GDP to 5.7% GDP .
In the first term Raila continued politicking and it never necessarily stopped Uhurus Government from performing. If you compare Uhurus achievement in the first term and second term you will see a big difference . Uhuru was better off without Raila. In my opinion he should have co-opted Kalonzo and Mudavadi instead of Raila. With bringin Raila in as much as he has gotten the legislature but at a cost of losing political capital and inturn in danger of going as the worst performing president.
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Precisely. Raila failing to do his job as an elected opposition leader and allowing Uhuru so much comfort zone he has added weight is responsible for the underachievement.
Uhuru is using NASA to get away with anything including underperformance. Ministers are least concerned about performing.
It's huge mess. Just politicking and infighting.
Someone like Wamalwa is busier in Luhyaland than providing leadership at his ministry.
Uhuru has failed as elected PORK. Raila has abdicated his responsibility as elected opposition. Our democracy is dying.
Actually its to the contrary the fact is post handshake Kenya economy growth slowed down from a 6.3 %GDP to 5.7% GDP .
In the first term Raila continued politicking and it never necessarily stopped Uhurus Government from performing. If you compare Uhurus achievement in the first term and second term you will see a big difference . Uhuru was better off without Raila. In my opinion he should have co-opted Kalonzo and Mudavadi instead of Raila. With bringin Raila in as much as he has gotten the legislature but at a cost of losing political capital and inturn in danger of going as the worst performing president.
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RV, Noway, et al - we appreciate your new talking points as Upinzani :) Your noises are enough why do you want old Raila to die on the highway? Don't be freeloaders do your turn to safeguard democracy.
Parliamentary and end of tyranny is the best legacy - stopping Ruto is a bonus. That and COVID battle are going well. Last-mile or universal elec Raila will complete once Uhuru hand over.
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Precisely. Raila failing to do his job as an elected opposition leader and allowing Uhuru so much comfort zone he has added weight is responsible for the underachievement.
Uhuru is using NASA to get away with anything including underperformance. Ministers are least concerned about performing.
It's huge mess. Just politicking and infighting.
Someone like Wamalwa is busier in Luhyaland than providing leadership at his ministry.
Uhuru has failed as elected PORK. Raila has abdicated his responsibility as elected opposition. Our democracy is dying.
Actually its to the contrary the fact is post handshake Kenya economy growth slowed down from a 6.3 %GDP to 5.7% GDP .
In the first term Raila continued politicking and it never necessarily stopped Uhurus Government from performing. If you compare Uhurus achievement in the first term and second term you will see a big difference . Uhuru was better off without Raila. In my opinion he should have co-opted Kalonzo and Mudavadi instead of Raila. With bringin Raila in as much as he has gotten the legislature but at a cost of losing political capital and inturn in danger of going as the worst performing president.
Apart from failing he even aided Uhuru to do an injustice remember 2018 finance bill where majority of Jubilee and ODM were against addition of VAT on petroleum products only for Raila to whip ODM Mps into voting for it. That was one of the reason the economy was affected negatively in 2019 . The cost of doing business went up together with the cost of living.
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“DP Ruto is my friend, but he’s not a politician who forgives and forgets. Such a leader should not be President of this country. He needs to humble himself and seek forgiveness even from those who have wronged him in the past. He can borrow an example from Raila Odinga,” Laikipia Woman Representative Catherine Waruguru told the Nation.
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RV, Noway, et al - we appreciate your new talking points as Upinzani :) Your noises are enough why do you want old Raila to die on the highway? Don't be freeloaders do your turn to safeguard democracy.
Parliamentary and end of tyranny is the best legacy - stopping Ruto is a bonus. That and COVID battle are going well. Last-mile or universal elec Raila will complete once Uhuru hand over.
This is funny . We saw the handover of Presidency from Moi to Raila in 2002 . Raila then was KANUs Secretary General , We also saw the Handover of Presidency from Kibaki To Raila in 2013 Raila then was Kibakis Prime Minister.
Your assumption is comedy at its best. You are being played big time and by the time you smell the coffee in the room .Uhuru will be handing over the sword symbol of Power to Ruto come August 2022.
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Noway that's alot of conjecture not backed by present reality. Uhuru is about to axe Ruto crew from the cabinet :) - that's in the news not a wish. Historically it's not the first time overambitious Ruto is being kicked out of a govt or party after doing the KYM job. It's prolly the 3rd or 4th time. The fool never learns.
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If Ruto had decided to less ambitious; he wouldn't be the favorite for 2022 at his prime age of 54yrs.
Power concede nothing. Ruto is going for it by working for it; he is not waiting like Raila or Kalonzo or Gideon to be endorsed by Uhuru.
And if that endorsement doesn't come - you start scrambling in last minute to form CORD or NASA - and then FAIL again.
Like Raila who has now failed a record I hear 7 times!!!!!
August 2022 will be exactly 40yrs since Raila attempted to take power in August 1982!
And he has no bullet - he is hoping Uhuru will somehow commandeer GEMA to him :)
Noway that's alot of conjecture not backed by present reality. Uhuru is about to axe Ruto crew from the cabinet :) - that's in the news not a wish. Historically it's not the first time overambitious Ruto is being kicked out of a govt or party after doing the KYM job. It's prolly the 3rd or 4th time. The fool never learns.
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Noway that's alot of conjecture not backed by present reality. Uhuru is about to axe Ruto crew from the cabinet :) - that's in the news not a wish. Historically it's not the first time overambitious Ruto is being kicked out of a govt or party after doing the KYM job. It's prolly the 3rd or 4th time. The fool never learns.
Reread my reply in context of your initial post. Secondly why did Raila boot out of KANU in 2002 after the merger between KANU and NDP. He went and told his people Moi had promised to handover Presidency to him after helping him in the legislature.
With Narc it was the same thing after Narcwinning power and his over ambitiousness Raila went and told his tribes men that Kibaki had betrayed agter helping him win the presidency with Kibaki tosha.
History is repeating its self so when we say historically who has been KYM.ambitious and a fool who never learns there you have your answer.
Ruto had been elected deputy president twice . Raila became a Prime Minister by the virtue of Rutos . This is a fact since Ruto desrted him he lost 2013 and 2017 elections and come 2022 another loss .
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Residents Condemn Laikipia Women Rep. Catherine Waruguru
Residents in Laikipia and Nanyuki are at loggerheads with their women representative Catherine Waruguru. There have been reports of protests in the area as residents condemn Catherine Waruguru for misuse of power as well as use of excessive force by police officers associated with her.
It is said that one John Kameni was physically abused by a bodyguard belonging to Catherine Waruguru. This came about after Mr. John differed with Catherine Waruguru on various political matters. According to eye witnesses, the bodyguard together with police officers came looking for John Kameni at a local shopping centre and once they found him, they proceeded to beat him up telling him to stay clear of Waruguru. Mr. John Kameni also claimed that the bodyguard threatened to kill him before elections if he did not heed their advice.
Residents were angered by this act and proceeded to threaten Catherine Waruguru with legal action. They took Mr. John Kameni to the hospital and assisted him to acquire a P3. They also requested CS Interior Fred Matiangi to intervene and serve justice on the matter.
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Mobutu has never been PORK nor even a successful partner - go slow on hubris. He was kicked from ODM after donkey work with his warriors; - kicked out of UDM; now kicked from Jubilee. His bromance with Uhuru lasted 2 hours after swearing in- once they didn't need him anymore. :) So while we don't know if Ruto or Raila will ever be president- they both aliens to GEMA and mere mortals. Ruto has such glaring deficiencies only a special breed of Stockholm patients can follow him. One day soon you will come up for fresh air - as it become apparent you been worshiping a clay idol.
If Ruto had decided to less ambitious; he wouldn't be the favorite for 2022 at his prime age of 54yrs.
Power concede nothing. Ruto is going for it by working for it; he is not waiting like Raila or Kalonzo or Gideon to be endorsed by Uhuru.
And if that endorsement doesn't come - you start scrambling in last minute to form CORD or NASA - and then FAIL again.
Like Raila who has now failed a record I hear 7 times!!!!!
August 2022 will be exactly 40yrs since Raila attempted to take power in August 1982!
And he has no bullet - he is hoping Uhuru will somehow commandeer GEMA to him :)