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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: RV Pundit on October 17, 2019, 01:09:22 PM
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Not sure nor do I really care what the little island of England got.
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It requires parliament’s ratification.
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That is the same agreement Teresa May had only this time the word Backstop is missing. :D :D :D
Let us see if Bojo will get it this time through parliament.
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Look like Northern Ireland will somewhat stay in EU with Ireland.
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On paper not, but in reality a big yes.
The border between Northern Ireland and the rest of Great Britain will be the Irish See.
Look like Northern Ireland will somewhat stay in EU with Ireland.
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Bojo is playing to the gallery. His Queen speech was a campaign manifesto. This deal will be rejected by parliament and the EU will reject an extension. There will be an election and the Tories will beat the Brexit Party. Labor and the wishy-washy Corbyn will be battered heavy by the Lib Dems. The clean majority Tories will ratify the same deal and that will be the end of it.
The biggest losers will be Labor and the DUP.
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Pundit your boy is in trouble. Brexit has been delayed by Westminster.
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The drama seems to go as expected. The Commons Speaker has scuttled the deal. Poland, Hungary, Italy or some other eurosceptic will veto extension. The UK will crash out of the EU on 31st.
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Seem they are headed to a crash out of EU followed by a general election. Corbyn last punchline is "Brexit will kill NHS" - without explaining why it works in Norway or Canada. Labor will be routed by Lib Dems.
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The EU extended Brexit by 3 months and the Coommons is off to a snap election on Dec 12th. Took 2/3 majority for that. Labor has been arm-twisted by Boris - I see them suffering a beating by Lib Dem.
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BoJo squaring it out with obosishen. Seem campaigns have began on the floor. This what we need four national CEO - not hiding behind Matiang'i or Kibicho. Parliamentary any day.
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Looking up for Boris and his Tories - bleak for Labor
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British politics have become really confusing. They seem even messier than the US. This Boris dude just wants to forge ahead without care for consequences. Nationalism(as do all forms of national pride) does require a healthy dose of stupidity.
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British politics have become really confusing. They seem even messier than the US. This Boris dude just wants to forge ahead without care for consequences. Nationalism(as do all forms of national pride) does require a healthy dose of stupidity.
That's one way of looking at the matter. Brexit is a reshuffle of the deck. A record 21 Tories were de-whipped - kicked out of the party - by Boris. After they voted to delay Brexit.
My own point of view is - Brexit is economically good in the long run, even if near-term it's bumpy. Too many freeloaders in the East. Sociopolitically the UK will swing to the right with very deep, gashing divisions. There is a bucketful of dirty linen swept under the EU and Brexit rug by successive governments.
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Farage dares the BoJo
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British politics have become really confusing. They seem even messier than the US. This Boris dude just wants to forge ahead without care for consequences. Nationalism(as do all forms of national pride) does require a healthy dose of stupidity.
That's one way of looking at the matter. Brexit is a reshuffle of the deck. A record 21 Tories were de-whipped - kicked out of the party - by Boris. After they voted to delay Brexit.
My own point of view is - Brexit is economically good in the long run, even if near-term it's bumpy. Too many freeloaders in the East. Sociopolitically the UK will swing to the right with very deep, gashing divisions. There is a bucketful of dirty linen swept under the EU and Brexit rug by successive governments.
Britain’s GDP is smaller than California. What do they produce that the rest of the world can’t do without? They no longer own half the planet to fall back on. They need EU to survive in a world dominated by the US, China and EU itself.
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British politics have become really confusing. They seem even messier than the US. This Boris dude just wants to forge ahead without care for consequences. Nationalism(as do all forms of national pride) does require a healthy dose of stupidity.
That's one way of looking at the matter. Brexit is a reshuffle of the deck. A record 21 Tories were de-whipped - kicked out of the party - by Boris. After they voted to delay Brexit.
My own point of view is - Brexit is economically good in the long run, even if near-term it's bumpy. Too many freeloaders in the East. Sociopolitically the UK will swing to the right with very deep, gashing divisions. There is a bucketful of dirty linen swept under the EU and Brexit rug by successive governments.
Britain’s GDP is smaller than California. What do they produce that the rest of the world can’t do without? They no longer own half the planet to fall back on. They need EU to survive in a world dominated by the US, China and EU itself.
How is brexit good for Britain? There is a documentary about british and their colonial hangover. They are still nursing it. They think they still have a role in the world but no one has told rhem what that role is.
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bitmask & Socrates - the UK is an economic vibrant and trailblazer. An explorer culture that holds her head high. Butt her voice is muzzled and neutered in the EU. How many times have London rulers visited Nairobi since Thatcher? Rules for a large union are always sub-optimal - because they are a balancing act. Economically both the UK and California would be better off on their own. The EU is an economic encumbrance without the payoff. There are too many Polish and Hungarian low-skilled immigrants yet it is harder to attract skilled labor from say India. This disgruntles blue-collars and rednecks much like Latinos do the deplorables in the US. Even in your own corporation, as an expat or high skilled staff the workers' union does not benefit you nor is it wanted.
What unions bestow is group comfort in military and political matters. For instance in dealing with Russia or Iran or Kim Jong-Un. But with NATO that is moot. Canada, Aussie trade with the EU. I am unconvinced of the extra benefit the UK enjoys. The EU is shackles.
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bitmask & Socrates - the UK is an economic vibrant and trailblazer. An explorer culture that holds her head high. Butt her voice is muzzled and neutered in the EU. How many times have London rulers visited Nairobi since Thatcher? Rules for a large union are always sub-optimal - because they are a balancing act. Economically both the UK and California would be better off on their own. The EU is an economic encumbrance without the payoff. There are too many Polish and Hungarian low-skilled immigrants yet it is harder to attract skilled labor from say India. This disgruntles blue-collars and rednecks much like Latinos do the deplorables in the US. Even in your own corporation, as an expat or high skilled staff the workers' union does not benefit you nor is it wanted.
What unions bestow is group comfort in military and political matters. For instance in dealing with Russia or Iran or Kim Jong-Un. But with NATO that is moot. Canada, Aussie trade with the EU. I am unconvinced of the extra benefit the UK enjoys. The EU is shackles.
I see it as an ecosystem. Times have changed. Those Poles and Latinos are an integral part of the whole. While they may not be doing cutting edge stuff, they do stuff that needs to be done. I still don't know what is special about Britain that the Euros and the rest of the world simply won't look and find elsewhere. Because shit can be produced anywhere, protectionism has no future.
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bitmask & Socrates - the UK is an economic vibrant and trailblazer. An explorer culture that holds her head high. Butt her voice is muzzled and neutered in the EU. How many times have London rulers visited Nairobi since Thatcher? Rules for a large union are always sub-optimal - because they are a balancing act. Economically both the UK and California would be better off on their own. The EU is an economic encumbrance without the payoff. There are too many Polish and Hungarian low-skilled immigrants yet it is harder to attract skilled labor from say India. This disgruntles blue-collars and rednecks much like Latinos do the deplorables in the US. Even in your own corporation, as an expat or high skilled staff the workers' union does not benefit you nor is it wanted.
What unions bestow is group comfort in military and political matters. For instance in dealing with Russia or Iran or Kim Jong-Un. But with NATO that is moot. Canada, Aussie trade with the EU. I am unconvinced of the extra benefit the UK enjoys. The EU is shackles.
I see it as an ecosystem. Times have changed. Those Poles and Latinos are an integral part of the whole. While they may not be doing cutting edge stuff, they do stuff that needs to be done. I still don't know what is special about Britain that the Euros and the rest of the world simply won't look and find elsewhere. Because shit can be produced anywhere, protectionism has no future.
It is a symbiosis - a limited ecosystem - the dependency is mutual and there is no need for the shackles. The EU is a raw deal marriage while the UK wants friends with benefits that Canada, Aussie, Japan, etc enjoy. UK industry is highly mature and competitive - noone will be displacing them without bigger opportunity coming their way. Britain eclipses Germany in this regard. They should trade with the EU and the world without having Poles and Croats imposed on them. They have their own rednecks for that and should determine their own job visa policy.
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bitmask & Socrates - the UK is an economic vibrant and trailblazer. An explorer culture that holds her head high. Butt her voice is muzzled and neutered in the EU. How many times have London rulers visited Nairobi since Thatcher? Rules for a large union are always sub-optimal - because they are a balancing act. Economically both the UK and California would be better off on their own. The EU is an economic encumbrance without the payoff. There are too many Polish and Hungarian low-skilled immigrants yet it is harder to attract skilled labor from say India. This disgruntles blue-collars and rednecks much like Latinos do the deplorables in the US. Even in your own corporation, as an expat or high skilled staff the workers' union does not benefit you nor is it wanted.
What unions bestow is group comfort in military and political matters. For instance in dealing with Russia or Iran or Kim Jong-Un. But with NATO that is moot. Canada, Aussie trade with the EU. I am unconvinced of the extra benefit the UK enjoys. The EU is shackles.
I see it as an ecosystem. Times have changed. Those Poles and Latinos are an integral part of the whole. While they may not be doing cutting edge stuff, they do stuff that needs to be done. I still don't know what is special about Britain that the Euros and the rest of the world simply won't look and find elsewhere. Because shit can be produced anywhere, protectionism has no future.
It is a symbiosis - a limited ecosystem - the dependency is mutual and there is no need for the shackles. The EU is a raw deal marriage while the UK wants friends with benefits that Canada, Aussie, Japan, etc enjoy. UK industry is highly mature and competitive - noone will be displacing them without bigger opportunity coming their way. Britain eclipses Germany in this regard. They should trade with the EU and the world without having Poles and Croats imposed on them. They have their own rednecks for that and should determine their own job visa policy.
Australia and Canada are humongous countries with endless resources. Japan remains an export powerhouse. What does Britain have?
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bitmask British industry is well established. The Japs are ahead but Aussie is not in the same league. Top of mind brands:
services - HSBC bank, PWC, Vodafone
auto - Jaguar, Rolls Royce, Land Rover
pharma & food - Reckitt Benckiser, GSK, Unilever, Diageo, BAT, Astra Zeneca
oil & minerals - BP, BHP Biliton, Rio Tinto
aerospace - BAE Systems, Concorde
arms - BAE Systems
film - Game of Thrones, James Bond, Sherlock Holmes, etc. not sure if SuperSport qualifies
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bitmask British industry is well established. The Japs are ahead but Aussie is not in the same league. Top of mind brands:
services - HSBC bank, PWC, Vodafone
auto - Jaguar, Rolls Royce, Land Rover
pharma & food - Reckitt Benckiser, GSK, Unilever, Diageo, BAT, Astra Zeneca
oil & minerals - BP, BHP Biliton, Rio Tinto
aerospace - BAE Systems, Concorde
arms - BAE Systems
film - Game of Thrones, James Bond, Sherlock Holmes, etc. not sure if SuperSport qualifies
I don't doubt that. Yes, they have established brands. But Britain are like 5th in the world overall. In fact their GDP per capita is anemic by their "peers' standards. An aging population with a shortage of nurses.
Now from your list, how does Brexit benefit any of these companies? To me, it just seems like it's all about national pride.
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bitmask British industry is well established. The Japs are ahead but Aussie is not in the same league. Top of mind brands:
services - HSBC bank, PWC, Vodafone
auto - Jaguar, Rolls Royce, Land Rover
pharma & food - Reckitt Benckiser, GSK, Unilever, Diageo, BAT, Astra Zeneca
oil & minerals - BP, BHP Biliton, Rio Tinto
aerospace - BAE Systems, Concorde
arms - BAE Systems
film - Game of Thrones, James Bond, Sherlock Holmes, etc. not sure if SuperSport qualifies
I don't doubt that. Yes, they have established brands. But Britain are like 5th in the world overall. In fact their GDP per capita is anemic by their "peers' standards. An aging population with a shortage of nurses.
Now from your list, how does Brexit benefit any of these companies? To me, it just seems like it's all about national pride.
The elite dominate corner offices so they are won't to sell out commoners in prefererence for lofty unions. Consider Apple and the Sino-US trade battles. Cook will swear it's bad for the economy - and he would be right about Apple - yet the overall outcome looks good. Business loathes DISRUPTION ergo endorses the status quo. Karasinga dukawallas and Bidcos unanimously backed Moi yet are soaring since his departure.
A competitive economy does not need blocks. It is the Greek and Poles who need the subsidies and cover. They thrive in open free trade. But the political shackles are the deal breakers. Canada would not have her highly successful and selective immigrant policy if it was in the EU.
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Boris vs Jeremy
Short version
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The Tories' strength is Brexit. Jeremy cannot take a clear position because the Labour base is split among the leavers and remainers.
On the monarchy - most people misunderstand it as outdated. Democracy is progressive and expeditious and expedient. And fraught! Monarchy is residual power regardless of what is in vogue. So presently an indiscretion by Prince Andrew has caused unpopularity. This is the whole point why it is not accountable by the vote.
The UK does not have a written constitution by design to protect the monarchy. All authority is de jure vested in the sovereign - including head of the Church of England or spiritual leader - so no need to jot down the one-liner. De facto authority is delegated (but only by inferior laws) to the elected parliament and the courts. You can hardly reform conventions but a written constitution would be cited, contested and reformed.
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Parliamentary system is unstable mess.
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It is a very open, accountable and equitable model. Exactly what Kenya needs.
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Jo Swinson has taken a beating. She tried to play heroine with her massive selfies and billboards. Seem women don't like her... from the devious grilling at BBC Question Time last evening. It's a 2 horse race Boris and Jeremy.
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Exit polls look like Boris landslide 386 vs 191 Labor.
https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2019/12/tory-majority-predicted-uk-election-exit-poll-191212190121904.html
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Exit polls look like Boris landslide 386 vs 191 Labor.
https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2019/12/tory-majority-predicted-uk-election-exit-poll-191212190121904.html
So, being that Boris is a Trump like guy, is the vote about anti-immigrant, pro white, pro-big business and govt?
Pls Explain if youre on the ground.
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Exit polls look like Boris landslide 386 vs 191 Labor.
https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2019/12/tory-majority-predicted-uk-election-exit-poll-191212190121904.html
So, being that Boris is a Trump like guy, is the vote about anti-immigrant, pro white, pro-big business and govt?
Pls Explain if youre on the ground.
From the little I know, that seems to be the case. And unlike Trump, it’s not a squeaker aided by the idiosyncrasies of an electoral college. Like Trump it’s a wholesome embrace of the clown by the less educated masses.
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Exit polls look like Boris landslide 386 vs 191 Labor.
https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2019/12/tory-majority-predicted-uk-election-exit-poll-191212190121904.html
So, being that Boris is a Trump like guy, is the vote about anti-immigrant, pro white, pro-big business and govt?
Pls Explain if youre on the ground.
From the little I know, that seems to be the case. And unlike Trump, it’s not a squeaker aided by the idiosyncrasies of an electoral college. Like Trump it’s a wholesome embrace of the clown by the less educated masses.
How can someone convince me that democracy is good when you see clowns being voted in left and right to the highest office where they are able to make policies that will affect billions of people.
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Exit polls look like Boris landslide 386 vs 191 Labor.
https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2019/12/tory-majority-predicted-uk-election-exit-poll-191212190121904.html
So, being that Boris is a Trump like guy, is the vote about anti-immigrant, pro white, pro-big business and govt?
Pls Explain if youre on the ground.
From the little I know, that seems to be the case. And unlike Trump, it’s not a squeaker aided by the idiosyncrasies of an electoral college. Like Trump it’s a wholesome embrace of the clown by the less educated masses.
How can someone convince me that democracy is good when you see clowns being voted in left and right to the highest office where they are able to make policies that will affect billions of people.
It’s not so much whether it’s good as whether it works. It’s worked somewhat for the West and may have reached a point of diminishing returns. We might be living through a historical period. Hopefully nothing bloody on the horizon.
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Exit polls look like Boris landslide 386 vs 191 Labor.
https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2019/12/tory-majority-predicted-uk-election-exit-poll-191212190121904.html
So, being that Boris is a Trump like guy, is the vote about anti-immigrant, pro white, pro-big business and govt?
Pls Explain if youre on the ground.
From the little I know, that seems to be the case. And unlike Trump, it’s not a squeaker aided by the idiosyncrasies of an electoral college. Like Trump it’s a wholesome embrace of the clown by the less educated masses.
How can someone convince me that democracy is good when you see clowns being voted in left and right to the highest office where they are able to make policies that will affect billions of people.
It’s not so much whether it’s good as whether it works. It’s worked somewhat for the West and may have reached a point of diminishing returns. We might be living through a historical period. Hopefully nothing bloody on the horizon.
I think we are at that point. India and muslims, USA, Britain vs immigrants, China vs muslims, etc...
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Yes immigration esp from Eastern Europe is the biggest driver of Brexit and Boris. His base is rednecks same as Trump. But I don't think democracy is going away soon. I see the UK suffering serious national divisions - Boris swept England and Wales. SNP swept Scotland. Sinn Fein has beat the DUP in Northern Ireland. Boris will find it very tricky to bulldoze his deal.
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Yes immigration esp from Eastern Europe is the biggest driver of Brexit and Boris. His base is rednecks same as Trump. But I don't think democracy is going away soon. I see the UK suffering serious national divisions - Boris swept England and Wales. SNP swept Scotland. Sinn Fein has beat the DUP in Northern Ireland. Boris will find it very tricky to bulldoze his deal.
I would vote for Tories too if I was a redneck. There is no gain for them in EU economy...
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Plato Tories are the same system cloaked as reforms. They are pro- business, low taxes, no safety net. At least Labour are socialists. Misery avers responsibility so the aliens and immigration must be the cause of all problems. You have seen in SA negro lynching negro... for taking away the jobs.
It is an oxymoron that rednecks are crowning demagogues everywhere. Buying smoke.
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Plato Tories are the same system cloaked as reforms. They are pro- business, low taxes, no safety net. At least Labour are socialists. Misery avers responsibility so the aliens and immigration must be the cause of all problems. You have seen in SA negro lynching negro... for taking away the jobs.
It is an oxymoron that rednecks are crowning demagogues everywhere. Buying smoke.
I think we are in a very real crisis fueled by only 30% of the world population.
Yes he got a majority but bringing all parties to accept his policy will be a challenge.
Same thing with Trump. He can claim all dictatorship but end up dragging the country into social crisis.
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Plato Tories are the same system cloaked as reforms. They are pro- business, low taxes, no safety net. At least Labour are socialists. Misery avers responsibility so the aliens and immigration must be the cause of all problems. You have seen in SA negro lynching negro... for taking away the jobs.
It is an oxymoron that rednecks are crowning demagogues everywhere. Buying smoke.
I think we are in a very real crisis fueled by only 30% of the world population.
Yes he got a majority but bringing all parties to accept his policy will be a challenge.
Same thing with Trump. He can claim all dictatorship but end up dragging the country into social crisis.
I don't see Boris as a Trumpian demagogue but very smart and talented. He may have the same racist-sexist gaffes but he is no science denier. Mayor Boris ran London rather well and still holds down the metropolitan Uxbridge and Ruislip liberal borough easy for a conservative. Combined with Jeremy Corbyn's abhorrent record of anti-patriotic canoodling with the IRA secessionists, silence over Scottish independence, lucklustre anti-Brexit campaign, his praise for Hamas. I think the left's antisemitism broke the camel's back.
Jeremy's dismality has aided Boris. Now the Brits will be carbon-free by 2050, Corbyn-free by Christmas :)
But after Thatcher and Blair this is just a minor landslide. Past Brexit Boris will struggle to address the economy of migrants and the EU single market. Britain like the US is fueled by globalism.
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We have to accept and internalise that the people who are different from us; some whom we hate and loathe do things and are dear to many- too many.
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How is uk going to be carbon free by 2050? Care to share data and details on this. Boris is good for business. UK will still be in EU global market but with less regulations. What Torries want is to do business the wild west way with fewer rules and contribution to the welfare of state. Rednecks know even with liberals this Neoliberalism won't take care of them but most rural poor live a very basic life so they do not state support like their counter parts in urban areas. An Appalachian redneck can easily survive on 15k income ..so they can vote for what they emotionally feel and not what benefits his or her lot most. Liberals fail recognize this and talk like deplorables are just idiots. No they are just people who have chosen a lifestyle that doesn't fit the neoliberal ideology..
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2050 is a Paris Accord target. For the OECD and China. So all parties have various plans and mandates to phase out combustion engines, etc. It's on the Tory manifesto but not a validated industrial plan. That's not such a stretch Plato - Germany for instance is on track to shut down all nuclear plants in lieu of wind and solar.
True about liberal mishandling of rednecks. But I meant the rednecks chose emotional rection over real self interest. They don't want to survive on 15k - they wrongly blame their fate on aliens. They have irrational fear of being outbred by immigrants so they vote Trump or Boris. Liberal millennials and hippies are smart to vote socialist. Welfare can alleviate redneck poverty. Shutting down immigration and protectionism cannot.
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Paris accord is nonsense. Just kicking the can down the road. You think China has any intenations of being carbon free? Or industrialized countries
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2050 is a Paris Accord target. For the OECD and China. So all parties have various plans and mandates to phase out combustion engines, etc. It's on the Tory manifesto but not a validated industrial plan. That's not such a stretch Plato - Germany for instance is on track to shut down all nuclear plants in lieu of wind and solar.
True about liberal mishandling of rednecks. But I meant the rednecks chose emotional rection over real self interest. They don't want to survive on 15k - they wrongly blame their fate on aliens. They have irrational fear of being outbred by immigrants so they vote Trump or Boris. Liberal millennials and hippies are smart to vote socialist. Welfare can alleviate redneck poverty. Shutting down immigration and protectionism cannot.
The redneck is alive to these facts and understands that there is no place on the table in a neoliberal world. So they just to screw Everyone else because they are already screwed. Rednecks do not want welfare they want a share shake when they sell their blue collar labor. They know Torriez or liberals are not willing to pay for this so why not just play the two sides against each other. I hate that everyone thinks rednecks are just morons. They are just not sophisticated gaslighters
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I guess Trump wins 2020 as right wing (racist) take over western world.
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I guess Trump wins 2020 as right wing (racist) take over western world.
Trump will win a second term the only thing that would stop him is a bad economy.
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I guess Trump wins 2020 as right wing (racist) take over western world.
Trump will win a second term the only thing that would stop him is a bad economy.
Trump will win but a 20%/yr federal increase in spending will definitely leave the economy worse off than under Bush. This time there is no fall back like interest rate cuts etc. There is a crisis on the way fueled by too much debt..
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Paris accord is nonsense. Just kicking the can down the road. You think China has any intenations of being carbon free? Or industrialized countries
Yup - I don't have to take Xi's word, there is empirical progress of green power farms all over the Mainland industrial belt. Shenzhen is literally a green hub. There are new anti-carbon laws and policies from the Party. Anti-fossil decrees in most cities. Global warming is real we see on the ice caps melting. You posted it yourself in a thread or two. It's self-preservation not politics.
No Plato, the Paris Accord is not nonsense. The world is burning down from the Mojave, the Amazon to Aussie.
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Paris accord is nonsense. Just kicking the can down the road. You think China has any intenations of being carbon free? Or industrialized countries
Yup - I don't have to take Xi's word, there is empirical progress of green power farms all over the Mainland industrial belt. Shenzhen is literally a green hub. There are new anti-carbon laws and policies from the Party. Anti-fossil decrees in most cities. Global warming is real we see on the ice caps melting. You posted it yourself in a thread or two. It's self-preservation not politics.
No Plato, the Paris Accord is not nonsense. The world is burning down from the Mojave, the Amazon to Aussie.
Plato is of the opinion that Paris accord has become like other treaties signed by previous administrations. DEAD!!! USA under republicans is no longer committed to world order, rather world disorder. EU is breaking apart and China is more interested in selling
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Paris accord is nonsense. Just kicking the can down the road. You think China has any intenations of being carbon free? Or industrialized countries
Yup - I don't have to take Xi's word, there is empirical progress of green power farms all over the Mainland industrial belt. Shenzhen is literally a green hub. There are new anti-carbon laws and policies from the Party. Anti-fossil decrees in most cities. Global warming is real we see on the ice caps melting. You posted it yourself in a thread or two. It's self-preservation not politics.
No Plato, the Paris Accord is not nonsense. The world is burning down from the Mojave, the Amazon to Aussie.
Plato is of the opinion that Paris accord has become like other treaties signed by previous administrations. DEAD!!! USA under republicans is no longer committed to world order, rather world disorder. EU is breaking apart and China is more interested in selling
The evidence doesn't agree. They cannot play politics with climate change as they do Syria. Mother Nature is a mean cold- hearted bitch. The US will resume Obama-era strides as soon as the Dotard exits. Only Aussie are not taking it seriously and see the wild heat and fires disparage them.
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Paris accord is nonsense. Just kicking the can down the road. You think China has any intenations of being carbon free? Or industrialized countries
Yup - I don't have to take Xi's word, there is empirical progress of green power farms all over the Mainland industrial belt. Shenzhen is literally a green hub. There are new anti-carbon laws and policies from the Party. Anti-fossil decrees in most cities. Global warming is real we see on the ice caps melting. You posted it yourself in a thread or two. It's self-preservation not politics.
No Plato, the Paris Accord is not nonsense. The world is burning down from the Mojave, the Amazon to Aussie.
Plato is of the opinion that Paris accord has become like other treaties signed by previous administrations. DEAD!!! USA under republicans is no longer committed to world order, rather world disorder. EU is breaking apart and China is more interested in selling
The evidence doesn't agree. They cannot play politics with climate change as they do Syria. Mother Nature is a mean cold- hearted bitch. The US will resume Obama-era strides as soon as the Dotard exits. Only Aussie are not taking it seriously and see the wild heat and fires disparage them.
I used to think Americans are intelligent, until Trump got elected!!
The guy makes his policy as the day goes, so nobody knows what is next.
Follows no established policy or adheres to any law.
Its a downward spiral that may endanger humanity as a whole. He makes roadside decisions without consulting others, thinking he has the best mind.
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Yes the Trump knee-jerk anti-Othordoxy may please his base for a few years but will haunt the US decades to come.
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The redneck is alive to these facts and understands that there is no place on the table in a neoliberal world. So they just to screw Everyone else because they are already screwed. Rednecks do not want welfare they want a share shake when they sell their blue collar labor. They know Torriez or liberals are not willing to pay for this so why not just play the two sides against each other. I hate that everyone thinks rednecks are just morons. They are just not sophisticated gaslighters
Everyone does not think rednecks are morons. Just the liberal elite. Rednecks have a gullible pride clinging to an antiquated insular world. Globalism has bigger pros than cons for advanced market economies and it is not a shame to accept welfare. It is an economic solution not alms. Take the EU single market for instance: you get a major pie but have to accept free movement and compete with Polish penny casuals. The bigger picture is that single market taxes pay for welfare and more. But the rednecks rather chop the nose to spite the face.
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Tony Blair's brutal 20-20 shakedown of Corbyn failures
"The Labor Manifesto was over 100 pages of wish list. Any fool can promise everything for free. But the people weren't fooled. They know life isn't like that. And this loading in of free broadband run by government at the last moment was the final confirmation of incredibility.
"So, this is politics. I understand Mrs Johnson and [Dominic] Cummings had a strategy for victory where we had one for defeat. And I noted the corkiness of the Johnson visit to [former Blair seat] Sedgefield to rub salt in the wound.
"But I would like to see their strategic brilliance measured against a team other than one whose Striker was directionally oblivious; its Midfield comatose; the Defence absent in the stand chatting to a small portion of the fans; and its Goalkeeper behind the net retweeting a clip of his one save in a 9-Nil thrashing.
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The redneck is alive to these facts and understands that there is no place on the table in a neoliberal world. So they just to screw Everyone else because they are already screwed. Rednecks do not want welfare they want a share shake when they sell their blue collar labor. They know Torriez or liberals are not willing to pay for this so why not just play the two sides against each other. I hate that everyone thinks rednecks are just morons. They are just not sophisticated gaslighters
Everyone does not think rednecks are morons. Just the liberal elite. Rednecks have a gullible pride clinging to an antiquated insular world. Globalism has bigger pros than cons for advanced market economies and it is not a shame to accept welfare. It is an economic solution not alms. Take the EU single market for instance: you get a major pie but have to accept free movement and compete with Polish penny casuals. The bigger picture is that single market taxes pay for welfare and more. But the rednecks rather chop the nose to spite the face.
Unfortunately these people think that the whole world should revolve around them. Meanwhile, China will overtake USA in GDP in less that 20yrs. I would rather have the Shrewdness if the Chinese that Racism that is inbuilt into the White Nationalism rants.
BTW the tax cuts were supposed to give power to more whites because color people are too poor to own much. Britain is going the same way.
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Parker right-left politics is a pendulum. The paradox in the right perspective is that the aliens overrunning them have not such capacity. They are poor Africans, Latinos and Arabs. The real threat is Nature - and maybe the Chinese - that are roundly ignored.
I pride myself an independent but I would rather liberalism. Conservative is denialism in odious form.
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Parker right-left politics is a pendulum. The paradox in the right perspective is that the aliens overrunning them have not such capacity. They are poor Africans, Latinos and Arabs. The real threat is Nature - and maybe the Chinese - that are roundly ignored.
I pride myself an independent but I would rather liberalism. Conservative is denialism in odious form.
Robina
A cornered bull is at his worst. He has nothing to lose. Conservatism has been cornered. Nothing to lose, so these people will do ANYTHING, including use of nuclear weapons.