Tell him to impeach Uhuru then,he can test waters.
Ok,the let him wait to be endorsed
What are you basing your hypothesis on?
Yawwnnn. Ruto's Jubilee mlolongo was worse than KANU 88 and he still has to bribe MPs to follow him; that's how "popular" Ruto is. Why rig? why bribe? when you are so popularFalse narrative in central Kenya only after several deadwood were beaten.If you think Ruto had machinery in Gema to rig then you need to give up already.Ruto plays clean.That is why Alfred letter won in Nandi.That is why Ruto has United kalenjin.He is not a moi.His people loses everywhere including turbo,sugoi and he respect those decisions.Raila is Moi.
hiyo bado
Robina why are you bent on asking serious questions just when RV Pandit Singh is preparing to unleash a 2022 MOASS?
Robina why are you bent on asking serious questions just when RV Pandit Singh is preparing to unleash a 2022 MOASS?
False narrative in central Kenya only after several deadwood were beaten.If you think Ruto had machinery in Gema to rig then you need to give up already.Ruto plays clean.That is why Alfred letter won in Nandi.That is why Ruto has United kalenjin.He is not a moi.His people loses everywhere including turbo,sugoi and he respect those decisions.Raila is Moi.
Ruto played a hand in some GEMA places to neutralize threats. He then choked parliament with his stooges. Bad moves incurred Uhuru and GEMA wrath.. Now he is lameduck DPORK with Raila and Matiang'i effectively taking his place. New joke folks are calling him kiongozi wa upinzani.
There's no region of kenya that's happy with jubilee regime. Given that we're now entering the tough debt repayment period, its going to get worse as money circulation(liquidity) shrink. Maybe 2022 will be more like 2002 where people coalesce around one candidate to beat the ruling party. The wild card is referendum.
Uhuru should sell shares in companies like Safaricom, Kenya Pipeline, National Oil & other such jewels - now that we cannot borrow anymore - his big mistake has been to stop public investment. Once we get below 50% GDP to Debt - we can leverage more. That is what Kibaki did anyway - borrowed whenever he could - and sell gov properties when he couldn't.
We cannot afford austerity measures.
Pundit, you are a hypocrite. Now you state we cannot borrow anymore. Have you jaut realised that? You are the same person who has been claiming here that we can borrow till nobody lends us any cash.
You are a typical triblist only with one agenda that your man takes SH.
Bure kabisa.
Uhuru should sell shares in companies like Safaricom, Kenya Pipeline, National Oil & other such jewels - now that we cannot borrow anymore - his big mistake has been to stop public investment. Once we get below 50% GDP to Debt - we can leverage more. That is what Kibaki did anyway - borrowed whenever he could - and sell gov properties when he couldn't.The prescription you are offering is doomed. Doubling down on supply driven infrastructure investment will actually kill the little vibrancy left in the economy. For example we have invested billions in energy, yet consumption isn't growing despite increased connections. And to make matters worse the cost of electricity isn't coming down. Ethiopia tried your prescription, recorded 10% growth for 10yrs but at the end they were forced to halt new projects, sell their crown jewels, and liberalize their economy(Ethiopia is in the process). The reason being debt and development binge that's not driven by private sector always end up badly with debt hangovers, idle or underutilized infrastructure.
We cannot afford austerity measures.There's no region of kenya that's happy with jubilee regime. Given that we're now entering the tough debt repayment period, its going to get worse as money circulation(liquidity) shrink. Maybe 2022 will be more like 2002 where people coalesce around one candidate to beat the ruling party. The wild card is referendum.
Uhuru should sell shares in companies like Safaricom, Kenya Pipeline, National Oil & other such jewels - now that we cannot borrow anymore - his big mistake has been to stop public investment. Once we get below 50% GDP to Debt - we can leverage more. That is what Kibaki did anyway - borrowed whenever he could - and sell gov properties when he couldn't.The prescription you are offering is doomed. Doubling down on supply driven infrastructure investment will actually kill the little vibrancy left in the economy. For example we have invested billions in energy, yet consumption isn't growing despite increased connections. And to make matters worse the cost of electricity isn't coming down. Ethiopia tried your prescription, recorded 10% growth for 10yrs but at the end they were forced to halt new projects, sell their crown jewels, and liberalize their economy(Ethiopia is in the process). The reason being debt and development binge that's not driven by private sector always end up badly with debt hangovers, idle or underutilized infrastructure.
We cannot afford austerity measures.There's no region of kenya that's happy with jubilee regime. Given that we're now entering the tough debt repayment period, its going to get worse as money circulation(liquidity) shrink. Maybe 2022 will be more like 2002 where people coalesce around one candidate to beat the ruling party. The wild card is referendum.
Kibaki maintained budget deficit of below 3%, this ensured private sector dynamism with good credit growth. And the government wasn't crowding out the private sector. Jubilee is running a budget deficit of 8%. Therein lies the problem. A government led growth isn't sustainable, especially when the government is as corrupt as jubilee.
However I'd agree we need to liquidate each and every equity government holds, whether the parastatal is profitable or not. Not only to raise capital to pare down debt but also to reduce crony capitalism.
Kadudu I know you've been waiting for many years for kenya to collapse to you can laugh LOUD in freezing cold German but it will be some more years of waiting.
I know you believe I mean evil for Kenya, but I can assure you even if I do not live there currently I seem to have the country more at heart than you who cheers on as the country is plundered left right and centre.
The stimulus programmes will not work in Kenya under the current enviroment. The whole economy is just set up for a few to steal. How many scandals have we had since 2013? Please do not write here no money was lost. Selling parastatals will also not work as most likely they will be sold for a song and then exchange hands again with a handsome profit for the middlemen.
My friend - Ethiopia is still growing at nearly double digits - China did this for 50yrs - public investment is the only way to quickly turns things over - private sector trickle down economy doesn't work - when you have a tiny private sector. And yes selling those gov parastals will help build the private sector. Right now our greatest asset is PUBLIC sector. That need to grow. Once we are mature developed country - we can go trickle down.For starters Ethiopia is growing at 8% and that growth is pegged on the government privatizing https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-01-23/ethiopia-premier-sees-state-asset-sales-boosting-economic-growth . After the huge supply side driven infrastructure spending Ethiopia can't even pay the loans https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-02-01/ethiopia-economy-imbalanced-needs-corrective-actions-abiy-says . The same thing is happening in kenya. The huge investments aren't producing enough revenue to payoff the loans. Take energy, we invested in generation and distribution instead of transmission so we have expensive power instead evacuating cheap wind power and geothermal. This would have reduced the cost of electricity thus increasing consumption. Demand driven infrastructure is something like fibre. Kibaki invested in undersea cable, which led to lower cost of internet. This has driven more demand, where fibre is now readily available even in rural towns. All that investment is by private sector. The jubilee 5.7% average GDP growth is the most hated robust growth. Why, because its not being felt by the public or private sector. What's important is rising incomes, revenue and profits, driven by increase in productivity. BTW government represent about 13% of the economy the rest is private sector, so private sector isn't small.
We have huge infrastructure deficit - how can we talk about idle or excess capacity - are we US or Germany or China? KPLC excess capacity is just inefficient - selling power at 21 cents usd a unit - would depress demand everywhere - otherwise if the prices drop to 8-10 bob by removing thermal and expense power - we can start using hot showers, cooking githeri on it, and companies can start manufacturing with it - but now people just use the minimal power - some don't even use iron boxes - preffering to use charcoal iron box :)
My friend - Ethiopia is still growing at nearly double digits - China did this for 50yrs - public investment is the only way to quickly turns things over - private sector trickle down economy doesn't work - when you have a tiny private sector. And yes selling those gov parastals will help build the private sector. Right now our greatest asset is PUBLIC sector. That need to grow. Once we are mature developed country - we can go trickle down.For starters Ethiopia is growing at 8% and that growth is pegged on the government privatizing https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-01-23/ethiopia-premier-sees-state-asset-sales-boosting-economic-growth . After the huge supply side driven infrastructure spending Ethiopia can't even pay the loans https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-02-01/ethiopia-economy-imbalanced-needs-corrective-actions-abiy-says . The same thing is happening in kenya. The huge investments aren't producing enough revenue to payoff the loans. Take energy, we invested in generation and distribution instead of transmission so we have expensive power instead evacuating cheap wind power and geothermal. This would have reduced the cost of electricity thus increasing consumption. Demand driven infrastructure is something like fibre. Kibaki invested in undersea cable, which led to lower cost of internet. This has driven more demand, where fibre is now readily available even in rural towns. All that investment is by private sector. The jubilee 5.7% average GDP growth is the most hated robust growth. Why, because its not being felt by the public or private sector. What's important is rising incomes, revenue and profits, driven by increase in productivity. BTW government represent about 13% of the economy the rest is private sector, so private sector isn't small.
We have huge infrastructure deficit - how can we talk about idle or excess capacity - are we US or Germany or China? KPLC excess capacity is just inefficient - selling power at 21 cents usd a unit - would depress demand everywhere - otherwise if the prices drop to 8-10 bob by removing thermal and expense power - we can start using hot showers, cooking githeri on it, and companies can start manufacturing with it - but now people just use the minimal power - some don't even use iron boxes - preffering to use charcoal iron box :)
8% is near double digit - lets us not nitpick. So far Ethiopia have talked big about privatization but has not done anything there. Ethiopia have grown since 1990s at double digit based on that model - that Chinese has used. Kenya can and ought to follow that model. Kibaki and his trickle down economics - never really helped --- the economy was growing at 4% on average eventually - it's only Jubilee that has sustained 6% economic growth the last few years.Pundit get serious. Kibaki grew the economy by average of 6.5%, even hit 10% 2011. Jubilee average is 5.2%. The moronic policy of connecting electricity to people who cannot afford is one of the reason why electricity prices are high. If Ruto idea is this grandiose projects and getting government involved in everything, then kenya doesn't need that. The era of excessive borrowing,high taxes and spending is over. Question, if this high spending is working, how come government had to raise taxes last yr? How come with all that "growth" the government can't even collect $16b even though the target is $18b? Most of all those projects that were initiated have stalled which is driving their cost even higher. If Ruto is the engine that has driven jubilee regime, the more reason why he shouldn't be president. For my money both uhuru and ruto are the problem. Basically the entire jubilee regime is the problem.
Anyway I cannot wait for my man Ruto to get into the helm...the man is Kagame/Meles/Museveni..at their heydeys...sharp as whip and will grow the economy by double digit.
Few problems at KPLC - can easily be sorted with strong leadership - otherwise we need to continue investing in power projects - our power generation is not even 3000MW and we are talking excess capacity. IT JUST LACK OF THINKING. Most of the idle power is generated at night - all you need is to sell it for 3bob - rather than letting it go to waste. in any case KPLC has to pay for that idle power. Broadband has expanded because of such ideas...night bundles and etc......maximizing the capacity. But we have KPLC owned by Mama Ngina, NSSF and other idiots just stiffling growth.
We need someone like Dr Ruto who can provide real leadership - not absent leadership like kibaki - or drunken one like Uhuru. Jubilee has managed to achieve a lot because Ruto was there from 5am till 10pms making sure stuff was getting done.Obviously he also made tonnes of money in the process that alarmed the drunken sailors. Hopefully Matiangi will fill that void - and of course he will grow incredibly rich in the process - as reward for fixing or making stuff happen.
DP Ruto during Jubilee Manifesto launch: On Galana Kulalu project, will start rolling out 30,000 bags of maize from July 2017.
— Karani Mutonga (@Karanimutonga) March 12, 2019
March 2019: How many has Galana Kulalu produced?
Why was Ruto being used to address areas of Jubilee that had lies? pic.twitter.com/mJMH2EsUbG
Pundit get serious. Kibaki grew the economy by average of 6.5%, even hit 10% 2011. Jubilee average is 5.2%. The moronic policy of connecting electricity to people who cannot afford is one of the reason why electricity prices are high. If Ruto idea is this grandiose projects and getting government involved in everything, then kenya doesn't need that. The era of excessive borrowing,high taxes and spending is over. Question, if this high spending is working, how come government had to raise taxes last yr? How come with all that "growth" the government can't even collect $16b even though the target is $18b? Most of all those projects that were initiated have stalled which is driving their cost even higher. If Ruto is the engine that has driven jubilee regime, the more reason why he shouldn't be president. For my money both uhuru and ruto are the problem. Basically the entire jubilee regime is the problem.
DP Ruto during Jubilee Manifesto launch: On Galana Kulalu project, will start rolling out 30,000 bags of maize from July 2017.
— Karani Mutonga (@Karanimutonga) March 12, 2019
March 2019: How many has Galana Kulalu produced?
Why was Ruto being used to address areas of Jubilee that had lies? pic.twitter.com/mJMH2EsUbG
There is also nothing wrong with looting & misusing public money,after all the money in question is just 7 billion for dams.
I'll let the economic growth rate debate slide for now - I'll get the figures - but for me kibaki did 4% - and Jubilee are doing 6%.There's no doubt that the electricity rate mainly to new connections to the poor are being subsidized https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/news/Poor-homes-to-pay-more-as-electricity-subsidy-scrapped-/539546-4256198-5qtx2t/index.html . Not just connection but the rate they pay electricity. Its no wonder despite increased connection the consumption hasn't increased. I understand you're keynesian and believe in heavy government spending. The model we should follow is indonesian(without corruption) or chile.
Now let's talk electricity. You keep repeating the lie that new poorer connections are the problem. Gov subsidized the new connections after getting a loan from WB (Last Mile 1 & 2). KPLC has never done anything there that should affect their bottomline. They should have benefited from extras customers. But they haven't because they are a inefficient monopoly. Uhuru if he wasn't drunk or conflicted - should have focused on that.
You cannot talk about excess or idle capacity in country like kenya with pent-up demand. Telcom industry has done well because of competition otherwise Telkom Kenya was mostly idle. I know we cannot easily privatize KPLC - but we can ask them to get serious - and sell excess power cheaply - Gov has started doing that - by lowering night time tarriffs - they need to do more.
If kenya want to develop fast; it has to follow what Ethiopia is doing. Meles Zenawi grew the Ethiopian economy thro public investment. China did the same.
I believe Ruto has the Meles Zenawi brains to transform Kenya. Ethiopia has grown the economy at dizzying double digits for what 30 decades - and when they have small problem in 1-2yrs - we want to dismiss such a model that works!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If Kenya want to succeed - we need to study models that are relevant to us - and not get into developed world models.
There's no doubt that the electricity rate mainly to new connections to the poor are being subsidized https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/news/Poor-homes-to-pay-more-as-electricity-subsidy-scrapped-/539546-4256198-5qtx2t/index.html . Not just connection but the rate they pay electricity. Its no wonder despite increased connection the consumption hasn't increased. I understand you're keynesian and believe in heavy government spending. The model we should follow is indonesian(without corruption) or chile.
Ethiopia is still dirt poor famine nation and that shows how the model is imperfect. Pure public sector growth at private sector expense.
China model has benefits over Ethiopia or Kenya -
1) DUO public+private model - massive state banks lend cheap to private sector - leading to income growth for big middle class. Jubilee has stifled SME with credit crunch.
2 EXPORT driven as factory of the world which is driven by manufacturing - efficient public sector unlike Kenya - and private manufacturers.
3. Political STABILITY - means consistent policy for decades with the ability to execute big ideas is BIG LEVERAGE. One child policy, low wages and no unions strike nonsense, eminent domains, hanging the corrupt, name it. Xi Jin Ping just "ordered" all taxis operators to buy electric vehicles in 3yrs :D as Trump tries to impress his blue collar base with reviving coal mining. :( You have giant Chinese MNCs like Huawei blowing dust on Apple n Cisco... public-private combo.
Pundit seems sold on China or Ethiopia model - not a perfect fit for Kenya.
Pundit- Ruto can't solve population overgrowth, corruption, political model. In fact he would exacerbate them. He might be efficient but I haven't seen anything to convince me of his vision. Kenya is not China.
I'll let the economic growth rate debate slide for now - I'll get the figures - but for me kibaki did 4% - and Jubilee are doing 6%.There's no doubt that the electricity rate mainly to new connections to the poor are being subsidized https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/news/Poor-homes-to-pay-more-as-electricity-subsidy-scrapped-/539546-4256198-5qtx2t/index.html . Not just connection but the rate they pay electricity. Its no wonder despite increased connection the consumption hasn't increased. I understand you're keynesian and believe in heavy government spending. The model we should follow is indonesian(without corruption) or chile.
Now let's talk electricity. You keep repeating the lie that new poorer connections are the problem. Gov subsidized the new connections after getting a loan from WB (Last Mile 1 & 2). KPLC has never done anything there that should affect their bottomline. They should have benefited from extras customers. But they haven't because they are a inefficient monopoly. Uhuru if he wasn't drunk or conflicted - should have focused on that.
You cannot talk about excess or idle capacity in country like kenya with pent-up demand. Telcom industry has done well because of competition otherwise Telkom Kenya was mostly idle. I know we cannot easily privatize KPLC - but we can ask them to get serious - and sell excess power cheaply - Gov has started doing that - by lowering night time tarriffs - they need to do more.
If kenya want to develop fast; it has to follow what Ethiopia is doing. Meles Zenawi grew the Ethiopian economy thro public investment. China did the same.
I believe Ruto has the Meles Zenawi brains to transform Kenya. Ethiopia has grown the economy at dizzying double digits for what 30 decades - and when they have small problem in 1-2yrs - we want to dismiss such a model that works!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If Kenya want to succeed - we need to study models that are relevant to us - and not get into developed world models.
Pundit, no I don't "hate" Ruto. That's too strong. I don't invest in politicians, I just don't support him as the panacea now. I have no horse but Raila is the only worthy opponent and as your boy says the best ideas and player will prevail. Iko nini tena?
My issue is this: economy strategy is a longterm game - so we cannot dismiss models. I just showed you Chinese merits - can you explain how Kenya can overcome them so we can adapt that model?
1. DUO public + private driven combo. You propose only public driven. How do we fix our private? With their mega bank and massive cheap private lending - and our credit crunch - we are OPPOSITE to their model.
2. EXPORT revenues fund China's public spending - debt-to-GDP 16% - you are happy with massive borrowing. Our exports have shrunk under Jubilee - the OPPOSITE of China.
3. STABILITY - communist dictatorship. This is impossible with elections and democracy - Ruto would only have 10yrs no matter how efficient - Kagame/Meles had 20+. Xi Jin Ping just became lifetime Chinese Czar. Again...
We are OPPOSITE to China MODEL.
I think for me when we are discussing gov - we are talking public sector. I don't think Gov should do anything special to private sector. It should be left on it's own. What Gov owes to private sector, private individuals and citizens is gov services. It owes them excellent roads, railways, ports and such services. It owes them good policies, laws and regulations. Its owes the young (under 18), the disabled, the old, the poor and vulnerable some social services that they cannot possible pay - in education, health, housing and such basic needs.
I dare say gov should not even think about growing the economy. It should think about this like a day job to do - provide like 60 services - 20 by counties - and 40 - by national gov. And it should do that job as excellently as it can.
When gov does that - they will grow the economy without even intending to. I want Ruto if elected to commit to provide the best goverment services by bridging infrastructure & social deficit, it should also continue to reduce gov bottlenecks and red-tape as reflected in "Ease of Doing" business, it should ensure police & security organs are doing their job, and then leave rest to market economy & common sense.
You don't need to be nudged to open a factory when there are good roads & railways to transport raw materials, enough cheap electricity to manufacture and finally market to sell finished goods. It should be non-event. No ceremony would be needed because companies out there are looking for opportunities to invest out there.
I want gov to come back and say we had 15% of all our roads paved - now we have 90% of our roads paved. We had 30% of our citizen connected to electricity - now we have everyone connected. We had like 30% of our citizen & firms with clean piped water - now we have everyone with piped clean water. We had like 10% under NHIF - now we have universal healthcare.
We just need a report card on how gov is doing in it's functions.
Once they focus on doing their job - the economy will grow. Just like you, companies and me do not go thinking we need to grow the economy by 6% - we have a job to do and we do it the best we can.Pundit, no I don't "hate" Ruto. That's too strong. I don't invest in politicians, I just don't support him as the panacea now. I have no horse but Raila is the only worthy opponent and as your boy says the best ideas and player will prevail. Iko nini tena?
My issue is this: economy strategy is a longterm game - so we cannot dismiss models. I just showed you Chinese merits - can you explain how Kenya can overcome them so we can adapt that model?
1. DUO public + private driven combo. You propose only public driven. How do we fix our private? With their mega bank and massive cheap private lending - and our credit crunch - we are OPPOSITE to their model.
2. EXPORT revenues fund China's public spending - debt-to-GDP 16% - you are happy with massive borrowing. Our exports have shrunk under Jubilee - the OPPOSITE of China.
3. STABILITY - communist dictatorship. This is impossible with elections and democracy - Ruto would only have 10yrs no matter how efficient - Kagame/Meles had 20+. Xi Jin Ping just became lifetime Chinese Czar. Again...
We are OPPOSITE to China MODEL.
By the way Pundit I don't think the calibre here are petty enough to hate on leaders. (Expect maybe Kadudu and Termie?) Ruto is demonstrably brilliant and capable. Raila equally has a track record of ideals as in we know what he's about. I wish we could have a noise-free public debate Ruto vs Ruto - efficiency vs integrity - conservative vs liberal - 2-tier v 3-tier - etc. Riffraff like Uhuru and Madvd should just drop dead.
Whom do I hate? Dislike, yes practically the whole Kenyan elite not only politicians. I cannot remember having abused even the biggest looters.
Infact given a choice of Uhuru extending his tenure as PM I would rather have a Ruto presidency knowing very well it will be anoter Arap Moi regime II. Why can't we just get rid of all the present leadership and try something else even if it is Miguna Miguna? :DBy the way Pundit I don't think the calibre here are petty enough to hate on leaders. (Expect maybe Kadudu and Termie?) Ruto is demonstrably brilliant and capable. Raila equally has a track record of ideals as in we know what he's about. I wish we could have a noise-free public debate Ruto vs Ruto - efficiency vs integrity - conservative vs liberal - 2-tier v 3-tier - etc. Riffraff like Uhuru and Madvd should just drop dead.
Infact given a choice of Uhuru extending his tenure as PM I would rather have a Ruto presidency knowing very well it will be anoter Arap Moi regime II. Why can't we just get rid of all the present leadership and try something else even if it is Miguna Miguna? :D