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Uhuru men cannot take on Ruto.
« on: March 12, 2019, 10:30:44 AM »
The man is already lame-duck - who is struggling selling his vision in GEMA that feel cheated. The other problem is Raila is just not sellable in Jubilee. It's akin Moi turning around in 2002 from running and building anti-kikuyu platform in KANU to endorse Uhuru Kenyatta.

If Uhuru insist on fighting Ruto - he will end up one lonely man without any legacy to talk about. Like Kibaki - he would have courted another civil war - that will definitely break up down the line btw Kalenjin and Kikuyus principally -

Ruto has over the years build loyal support from across the country - nearly all Jubilee leadership outside GEMA - owe their loyalty to Ruto directly.

Uhuru should stop listening to political idiots like Nancy Gitau, his brother and their operatives. They will all lose very badly. These are the same idiots who lied to Kibaki, spend billions building a political party (UDF), got maDVD as their candidate and then lost badly. The same idiots also planted fake evidence against Ruto by turning PNU party leaders into witnesses - and come the d-day in ICC - they all refused to stand in the witness box.

And they will have to eventually ran to Raila for political cover. When Ruto eventually calls his troops all over the nation - Maina Kamanda and his 2 mps will not be able to withstand.

And Raila if his succeeds in fullness of time will exact his revenge.

If Ruto succeeds without Uhuru help - will have purged the sons and daughters of kenya political dynastic into the deep sea - and new crop of leaders will emerge all over the country.

In short they are between a hard place and a rock. Their best bet is for Jubilee to stay together, Uhuru to pick DPORK and get 50-50 shares - and life continues like it was blissfully continuing since 2013.

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Re: Uhuru men cannot take on Ruto.
« Reply #1 on: March 12, 2019, 01:03:14 PM »
Tell him to impeach Uhuru then,he can test waters.

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Re: Uhuru men cannot take on Ruto.
« Reply #2 on: March 12, 2019, 01:12:53 PM »
Alternatively he can start mobilizing his URP mps to frustrate government business in parliament,thats the sure way of knowing the size of his testicles.

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Re: Uhuru men cannot take on Ruto.
« Reply #3 on: March 12, 2019, 01:14:56 PM »
Nuclear option of Ruto fighting Uhuru is MAD - Mutually Assured Destruction - that ODM & Raila are praying will happen and implode Jubilee & paralyze gov - and probably lead to another civil war & ICC.

I think Ruto will occasionally be reminding Uhuru what he is capable of - and will make sure Uhuru tries to moderate his weed & alcohol - so he stays sober and doesn't endanger the future of the country- by listening to political "strategists" like Nancy Gitau.

Honestly Ruto has incredible energy, bottomless money, wit, intelligence, orator skills and political adeptness I really pity Uhuru men who want to take him. Raila the old man cannot keep up.

Ruto is so bored he has decided to burn his energy in marathon having done PHD & Master while facing ICC - he know has graduated from 10Kms he ran in Nyeri to 21Kms in he ran in Nairobi. The man is getting really wasted by these stupid wars by stupid civil servants.

I suggest he does the 42Kms full marathon then go for a one year break and do the IRON MAN :) :) - something like 50kms marathon, 20kms of swimming and 200kms of cycling. That should help contain his incredible energy and libido :) - and that should help Uhuru not feel emasculated and lame-duck so early.



Tell him to impeach Uhuru then,he can test waters.

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Re: Uhuru men cannot take on Ruto.
« Reply #4 on: March 12, 2019, 02:01:30 PM »
Ok,the let him wait to be endorsed

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Re: Uhuru men cannot take on Ruto.
« Reply #5 on: March 12, 2019, 02:58:57 PM »
Raila is waiting for handshake to splinter Jubilee. Ruto is not waiting to be made PORK - he is making himself PORK by campaigning everywhere in this country - I think it appears Western/Luhya has soften - and ready fro CRACKING - the same with coast. I guess the complication is now Gusii - Matiangi emergence as power broker - will mean change of strategy - Ruto should work on inflating Matiangi ego - so he can take Gusii off the table - if he cannot take it. The good thing Gusii are completely done with Raila. Ukambani is busy working to split into 3.  That leave us really with GEMA - in wait - n- see - as Uhuru remain the MUTHAMAKI - and Luo Nyanza's Raila - but everywhere else is already firmly on board MV Ruto - I am talking about 20 counties - 14 in rift valley and 6 in Northern Kenya - the core kamatusa+pastoral votes - should get Ruto comfortably to good start.
Ok,the let him wait to be endorsed

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Re: Uhuru men cannot take on Ruto.
« Reply #6 on: March 12, 2019, 04:30:05 PM »
What are you basing your hypothesis on?

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Re: Uhuru men cannot take on Ruto.
« Reply #7 on: March 12, 2019, 04:36:34 PM »
Synovate.
What are you basing your hypothesis on?

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Re: Uhuru men cannot take on Ruto.
« Reply #8 on: March 12, 2019, 05:40:26 PM »
Link please

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Re: Uhuru men cannot take on Ruto.
« Reply #9 on: March 12, 2019, 07:29:50 PM »
Yawwnnn. Ruto's Jubilee mlolongo was worse than KANU 88 and he still has to bribe MPs to follow him; that's how "popular" Ruto is. Why rig? why bribe? when you are so popular
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Re: Uhuru men cannot take on Ruto.
« Reply #10 on: March 12, 2019, 07:38:57 PM »
Robina why are you bent on asking serious questions just when RV Pandit Singh is preparing to unleash a 2022 MOASS?
Celebratory violence: 2017 crime invented to justify killings to prevent Raila from becoming PORK. http://www.nipate.com/download/file.php?id=4244

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Re: Uhuru men cannot take on Ruto.
« Reply #11 on: March 12, 2019, 07:51:10 PM »
Yawwnnn. Ruto's Jubilee mlolongo was worse than KANU 88 and he still has to bribe MPs to follow him; that's how "popular" Ruto is. Why rig? why bribe? when you are so popular
False narrative in central Kenya only after several deadwood were beaten.If you think Ruto had machinery in Gema to rig then you need to give up already.Ruto plays clean.That is why Alfred letter won in Nandi.That is why Ruto has United kalenjin.He is not a moi.His people loses everywhere including turbo,sugoi and he respect those decisions.Raila is Moi.

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Re: Uhuru men cannot take on Ruto.
« Reply #12 on: March 12, 2019, 07:54:21 PM »
hiyo bado
Robina why are you bent on asking serious questions just when RV Pandit Singh is preparing to unleash a 2022 MOASS?
Robina why are you bent on asking serious questions just when RV Pandit Singh is preparing to unleash a 2022 MOASS?

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Re: Uhuru men cannot take on Ruto.
« Reply #13 on: March 12, 2019, 09:29:02 PM »
False narrative in central Kenya only after several deadwood were beaten.If you think Ruto had machinery in Gema to rig then you need to give up already.Ruto plays clean.That is why Alfred letter won in Nandi.That is why Ruto has United kalenjin.He is not a moi.His people loses everywhere including turbo,sugoi and he respect those decisions.Raila is Moi.

Ruto played a hand in some GEMA places to neutralize threats. He then choked parliament with his stooges. Bad moves incurred Uhuru and GEMA wrath.. Now he is lameduck DPORK with Raila and Matiang'i effectively taking his place. New joke folks are calling him kiongozi wa upinzani.
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Re: Uhuru men cannot take on Ruto.
« Reply #14 on: March 12, 2019, 09:38:59 PM »
No evidence Coast or Luhya have cracked effectively for Ruto. He still has to face Raila squarely in non-GEMA, which he could only manage to scrape with 50% GoK for five years. Now he has no say as Uhuru reneges. Raila may have more goodies to use now.

If Uhuru manages to deliver GEMA to Raila Ruto is done. Can he even count on being Jubilee's candidate? When will he shift to new outfit and herd his flock there?

In short the only place Ruto is leading is the Ipsos most corrupt Kenyan.. now at 70% landslide ????
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Re: Uhuru men cannot take on Ruto.
« Reply #15 on: March 13, 2019, 05:38:43 AM »
There's no region of kenya that's happy with jubilee regime. Given that we're now entering the tough debt repayment period, its going to get worse as money circulation(liquidity) shrink.  Maybe 2022 will be more like 2002 where people coalesce around one candidate to beat the ruling party. The wild card is referendum.

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Re: Uhuru men cannot take on Ruto.
« Reply #16 on: March 13, 2019, 08:04:59 AM »
I think it's fair to get Uhuru to ran the show the last few years and take all the BLAME :) That should insulate Ruto from the regime failures. Otherwise Ruto still ran his 50%.
Ruto played a hand in some GEMA places to neutralize threats. He then choked parliament with his stooges. Bad moves incurred Uhuru and GEMA wrath.. Now he is lameduck DPORK with Raila and Matiang'i effectively taking his place. New joke folks are calling him kiongozi wa upinzani.

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Re: Uhuru men cannot take on Ruto.
« Reply #17 on: March 13, 2019, 08:07:50 AM »
Uhuru should sell shares in companies like Safaricom, Kenya Pipeline, National Oil & other such jewels - now that we cannot borrow anymore - his big mistake has been to stop public investment. Once we get below 50% GDP to Debt - we can leverage more. That is what Kibaki did anyway - borrowed whenever he could - and sell gov properties when he couldn't.

We cannot afford austerity measures.

There's no region of kenya that's happy with jubilee regime. Given that we're now entering the tough debt repayment period, its going to get worse as money circulation(liquidity) shrink.  Maybe 2022 will be more like 2002 where people coalesce around one candidate to beat the ruling party. The wild card is referendum.

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Re: Uhuru men cannot take on Ruto.
« Reply #18 on: March 13, 2019, 11:04:16 AM »
Pundit, you are a hypocrite. Now you state we cannot borrow anymore. Have you jaut realised that? You are the same person who has been claiming here that we can borrow till nobody lends us any cash.
You are a typical triblist only with one agenda that your man takes SH.
Bure kabisa.

Uhuru should sell shares in companies like Safaricom, Kenya Pipeline, National Oil & other such jewels - now that we cannot borrow anymore - his big mistake has been to stop public investment. Once we get below 50% GDP to Debt - we can leverage more. That is what Kibaki did anyway - borrowed whenever he could - and sell gov properties when he couldn't.

We cannot afford austerity measures.

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Re: Uhuru men cannot take on Ruto.
« Reply #19 on: March 13, 2019, 11:23:51 AM »
Kadudu I know you've been waiting for many years for kenya to collapse to you can laugh LOUD in freezing cold German but it will be some more years of waiting.

When China refused to lend us to get SGR to Kisumu - I knew we had reach the limit of our borrowing - we are now close to 5.6 trillion in debt in a kshs 9 trillion economy. That is 62% GDP to Debt ratio. That is a red flag.

There are two ways out of this - we wait it out - meaning we cut our budget and have austerity measures - by end of this year of GDP will be around 10trillion shs...so GDP to Debt ratio if we cut our borrowing - should improve to say 57% - if we don't borrow any more than we repay. Another year - and it will be down to 52% - and by 2021 - we should be ready to restart borrowing again.

Now in this period of cooling our heels - Uhuru has chosen to fight graft and cut projects - that is WRONG WAY TO GO. First GDP/Revenues/Taxes will not grow by 6% to nearly 10 trillions without public investment - it will grow by usual 4% - to say 95 trillion - and so we will wait longer to have ambitious development budget.

The way out of this is to do what Kibaki or kadudu does - if you cannot get a loan from the bank - and you still want to take your kid to Germany or build that small dam in your farm or electrify your house or buy that land - you look at your cows, goats and sheeps - and sell some of them - esp those that are not really adding any value anymore. I am talking Safaricom, Kenya Pipeline, Kengen, National Oil - we should sell them for next 2-3yrs we cannot really borrow that much - and use the proceeds to fund the budget.

Ambitious budget to close the infrastructure and social deficit - we need more roads, more electricity, more ports, more broandband, more schools, more colleges, more water dams, more irrigated land.

We cannot afford to sit and DO NOTHING. In economics when you're in hole - you dig in - you spend more :) you inject stimulus to the shock the economy to spin again and get the momentum. That is how Obama got US out of trouble with QE - massive printing of dollars and stimulus package to many sector of economy.

If you don't anything- you get into something call deflation - a misery - a vicious cycle of poverty - you don't invest - you don't grow. The US had one - The GREAT DEPRESSION - and the solutions was to SPEND AND INVEST MORE. Not to twiddle your fingers and pray.

Uhuru has to be careful because this could end badly for him! The music must not stop.

Pundit, you are a hypocrite. Now you state we cannot borrow anymore. Have you jaut realised that? You are the same person who has been claiming here that we can borrow till nobody lends us any cash.
You are a typical triblist only with one agenda that your man takes SH.
Bure kabisa.