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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: patel on September 12, 2017, 06:41:30 PM
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NASA POSITION PAPER ON IRREDUCIBLE MINIMUMS BEFORE THE FRESH ELECTIONS ARE HELD:
1. Forms 34Bs
· All Forms should be preprinted indicating names of polling stations and candidates.
· Returning Officers to physically fill in the Forms and make a formal announcement at the Constituency level
. The above process to be done in the presence of agents, media, observers and the public.
· There should be no use of Excel documents in filling results Forms.
· All Forms to be standardized.
2. Printing of Ballot papers and Forms
· Al Ghurair company printed non standardized elections results declaration Forms which were used in the impugned presidential elections.
· Another printer should be contracted to print ballot papers and results declaration Forms in the fresh elections.
3. Election Monitors
· Introduce election monitors selected from a multisectoral group to have a role in signing off for elections materials and results declaration forms at polling stations and the Constituency tallying center.
· Elections Monitors to sign off on the Forms 34As and 34Bs before the results are announced.
4. Returning Officers
· A new slot of returning officers to be appointed for all the 291 constituencies
· Current serving ROs to remain as Constituency Elections Managers and not play any role as Returning Officers in the fresh elections but provide logistical support to the appointed ROs.
· Appointment of ROs should be from a pool provided by political parties of nominees
Posting of ROs should be done through open balloting in public to determine constituencies where the officers are to be posted.
5. Results Transmission
· No text messaging in sending elections results
· Only scanned images to be sent through the KIEMS kit to the constituency and national tallying center
· Commission to proactively announce exact number of persons who have voted at 5 pm based on tabulations from KIEMS Kits before the counting starts.
· Elections results to be announced at the Constituency level. Only scanned images to be sent through the KIEMS kits or results transmitted by Presiding Officers and Returning Officers may be tabulated.
· National tallying center should not display results before they are verified and announced at the constituency level. No results should be displayed unless political party and candidates’ agents are given full access to all transaction logs and databases.
· National tallying center should only display scanned images of result Forms once publicly announced at the Constituency tallying centers
· Media Houses should proactively cover all results announcements at the respective constituencies and show live feed of the outcome
· Candidates’ agents should be part of receiving teams at the constituency and national tallying centers. Receiving teams to verify all Forms 34As delivered and confirm that accurate entries are made on the Forms 34Bs and sign off before announcement is made.
· Observers should be allowed access to this process.
6. Candidate Agents and tallying center
· Candidates agents should be present at all levels and processes of the elections. these include the deployment and receiving of elections materials.
· Candidates should have IT agents present to oversee the entire IT infrastructure of the Commission and be present or have access at all data centers, where controls are maintained and servers hosted/configured.
7. ICT Infrastructure
· Independent International Experts should be engaged to manage the entire ICT framework of the elections with close supervision of the Candidates agents and the IEBC.
· Results transmission system to be designed on the Oracle platform and overseen by Oracle Consulting. No use of cloud servers in results transmission.
· IBM was contracted to provide end to end security testing of the KIEMS system. IBM to be allowed to provide security and monitoring of users, networks and servers used in results transmission.
· Administrator and root accounts must be disabled on KIEMS servers. All system administrators accessing the servers must use their own accounts.
· IEBC to avail API to be made available to all stakeholders in time and relevant documentation.
· Commission should provide full information on the following;
· Entire ICT infrastructure, list of support partners and their respective Service Level Agreements (SLAS), full disclosure of implementation documentation by each partners.
· Firewall configuration including ports configuration.
· Disclose all database transaction logs including: alert logs, archive/redo logs, audit trail, data files, OS command history, network logs, sql.net logs database vault logs and trace files.
· Physical view and inspection of IEBC servers, portal access to the servers and IP addresses of all 20 servers.
· Full access and copy of all servers and databases it is using.
· Disclose all support partners with SLAs and escalation matrix.
· Disclose firewall configuration including ports configuration.
· Entire enterprise architecture of the landscape.
· GPS coordinates of KIEMS.
· KIEMS sim card numbers for all kits
· Telkom and network structure with all service providers (provide agreements and implementation details.
· Transaction logs of all databases and servers.
8. Polling Stations
· IEBC should provide a list of all polling stations and registered voters per all those polling stations in advance. List should indicate the GPS locations of all polling stations and the network coverage.
9. Complicit Elections Personnel
· A scrutiny of the Forms 34Bs from the constituencies showed that 80 constituency Forms were fake and therefore illegal. Officers who were complicit in processing results through these illegal Forms being the respective returning officers and national tallying center officers who allowed the illegal documents to pass as results should not play any role in the fresh electoral process.
· Officers who also facilitated the display of figures purporting them to be results but which at the Supreme Court hearing were disowned by the Commission as mere statistics should equally be barred from participating in the fresh elections.
These officers include;
1) Comm. Abdi Guliye
2) Ezra Chiloba (CEO)
3) Marijan Hussein Marijan
4) Betty Nyabuto – Deputy Commission Secretary (Operations):
5) James Muhati, Director ICT
6) Immaculate Kassait:
7) Praxedes Tororey:
8) Moses Kipkogey
9) Sidney Namulungu
10) Nancy Kariuki
11) Silas Rotich
Hon Musalia Mudavadi;
Chair,
National Campaign Committee
September 12, 2017
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Some proposals are good and should be adopted. Some are downright ridiculous if not mischievous esp appointment of ROS from list from political parties (is that attempt to initiate a rigging rat race?). Some of demands as far as ICT goes would expose IEBC to hacking and compromise. Printing with Al Gurair - if there is another option that can deliver the ballots in few days - go for it. Complicit is total bullshiet - no one has been found culpable of anything - IEBC can institute administrative action but ultimately until DPP/Police conduct investigation into election offence this is BS.
Bottomline; Chebukati can borrow some of the ideas but ultimately IEBC will independently conduct this election in accordance with law and with help of SCOK rulling.
There is nothing like "demands" to IEBC. In fact NASA without any known path to victory will do this country a big favour by withdrawing from the race and by default Uhuru will become PORK.
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Some proposals are good and should be adopted. Some are downright ridiculous if not mischievous esp appointment of ROS from list from political parties (is that attempt to initiate a rigging rat race?). Some of demands as far as ICT goes would expose IEBC to hacking and compromise. Printing with Al Gurair - if there is another option that can deliver the ballots in few days - go for it. Complicit is total bullshiet - no one has been found culpable of anything - IEBC can institute administrative action but ultimately until DPP/Police conduct investigation into election offence this is BS.
Bottomline; Chebukati can borrow some of the ideas but ultimately IEBC will independently conduct this election in accordance with law and with help of SCOK rulling.
There is nothing like "demands" to IEBC. In fact NASA without any known path to victory will do this country a big favour by withdrawing from the race and by default Uhuru will become PORK.
The highlighted is plain funny.
I think secession is a more rational option than some of these 'demands' given there is not even sufficient time to mobilize Issak-Hassan grade protests.
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NASA has placed "paap", its demands on the table. The other side will have to do the same and there will be a negotiation. If negotiations fails then NASA has options. If NASA boycotts the elections, then there will be NO elections. At least right now Ouru is a legitimate interim president with reduced powers but he is legit. If there is NO elections then Ouru will not be a legitimate president. He will be a kikuyu Kalenjin president but not a Kenyan president and we will not recognize him as such. We are not going to legitimize a rigged process by participating in a sham elections.
Some proposals are good and should be adopted. Some are downright ridiculous if not mischievous esp appointment of ROS from list from political parties (is that attempt to initiate a rigging rat race?). Some of demands as far as ICT goes would expose IEBC to hacking and compromise. Printing with Al Gurair - if there is another option that can deliver the ballots in few days - go for it. Complicit is total bullshiet - no one has been found culpable of anything - IEBC can institute administrative action but ultimately until DPP/Police conduct investigation into election offence this is BS.
Bottomline; Chebukati can borrow some of the ideas but ultimately IEBC will independently conduct this election in accordance with law and with help of SCOK rulling.
There is nothing like "demands" to IEBC. In fact NASA without any known path to victory will do this country a big favour by withdrawing from the race and by default Uhuru will become PORK.
The highlighted is plain funny.
I think secession is a more rational option than some of these 'demands' given there is not even sufficient time to mobilize Issak-Hassan grade protests.
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NASA has placed "paap", its demands on the table. The other side will have to do the same and there will be a negotiation. If negotiations fails then NASA has options. If NASA boycotts the elections, then there will be NO elections. At least right now Ouru is a legitimate interim president with reduced powers but he is legit. If there is NO elections then Ouru will not be a legitimate president. He will be a kikuyu Kalenjin president but not a Kenyan president and we will not recognize him as such. We are not going to legitimize a rigged process by participating in a sham elections.
Some proposals are good and should be adopted. Some are downright ridiculous if not mischievous esp appointment of ROS from list from political parties (is that attempt to initiate a rigging rat race?). Some of demands as far as ICT goes would expose IEBC to hacking and compromise. Printing with Al Gurair - if there is another option that can deliver the ballots in few days - go for it. Complicit is total bullshiet - no one has been found culpable of anything - IEBC can institute administrative action but ultimately until DPP/Police conduct investigation into election offence this is BS.
Bottomline; Chebukati can borrow some of the ideas but ultimately IEBC will independently conduct this election in accordance with law and with help of SCOK rulling.
There is nothing like "demands" to IEBC. In fact NASA without any known path to victory will do this country a big favour by withdrawing from the race and by default Uhuru will become PORK.
The highlighted is plain funny.
I think secession is a more rational option than some of these 'demands' given there is not even sufficient time to mobilize Issak-Hassan grade protests.
NASWA should just boycott and 'delegitimize' Uhuru. But you're right; NASWA must aim for the sun and settle for the moon even as they prepare for another petition.
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Haven't seen any of these in NASWA official channels. Is it legit?
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290 with each party providing 145. Jubilee nominees to be deployed in NASA strongholds and vice versa. Battlegrounds be shared equally. That would address your concern below.
Some proposals are good and should be adopted. Some are downright ridiculous if not mischievous esp appointment of ROS from list from political parties (is that attempt to initiate a rigging rat race?). Some of demands as far as ICT goes would expose IEBC to hacking and compromise. Printing with Al Gurair - if there is another option that can deliver the ballots in few days - go for it. Complicit is total bullshiet - no one has been found culpable of anything - IEBC can institute administrative action but ultimately until DPP/Police conduct investigation into election offence this is BS.
Bottomline; Chebukati can borrow some of the ideas but ultimately IEBC will independently conduct this election in accordance with law and with help of SCOK rulling.
There is nothing like "demands" to IEBC. In fact NASA without any known path to victory will do this country a big favour by withdrawing from the race and by default Uhuru will become PORK.
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Boycott will mean there will be no voting. You will need to deploy the military to massacre hundreds to get that "walkover". It will mean attacking those who work for the elections. Total violence in Western, Nyanza, Coast, Nairobi, Kitui, Makueni, Machakos etc.
NASWA should just boycott and 'delegitimize' Uhuru. But you're right; NASWA must aim for the sun and settle for the moon even as they prepare for another petition.
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Haven't seen any of these in NASWA official channels. Is it legit?
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Nonsense. What makes you think NASA is equal to Jubilee. What formulae are you using to assign weight to political parties? IEBC should get neutral persons with each party allow to object with evidence the partisanship of anyone who has applied for RO job. IEBC should objectively evaluate such evidence and if there is merit - such person will be disqualified.
IEBC commissioner were six months ago - feb this year - selected in an elaborate process - clearly they are not even done with honeymoon.
290 with each party providing 145. Jubilee nominees to be deployed in NASA strongholds and vice versa. Battlegrounds be shared equally. That would address your concern below.
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It had to take the SUPK to come up with such ideas??
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There are no neutral people in Kenya. Not even the clergy.
Nonsense. What makes you think NASA is equal to Jubilee. What formulae are you using to assign weight to political parties? IEBC should get neutral persons with each party allow to object with evidence the partisanship of anyone who has applied for RO job. IEBC should objectively evaluate such evidence and if there is merit - such person will be disqualified.
IEBC commissioner were six months ago - feb this year - selected in an elaborate process - clearly they are not even done with honeymoon.
290 with each party providing 145. Jubilee nominees to be deployed in NASA strongholds and vice versa. Battlegrounds be shared equally. That would address your concern below.
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Absolutely. No need to legitimize rigging no matter what.
If Jubilee is so confident, there is only one response needed to checkmate Raila: call his bluff with a resounding YES. I see nothing there that is unreasonable given all that happened in the invalidated elections as came out in the petition and as Chebukati's own memo makes clear. If they refuse, good. Let NASA boycott the elections and make Uhuru's life a living hell for one year. It'll be the start of a very serious secession push that some will rubish but will soon be forced to contend with.
Already we can see how losing the petition has forced JP to start including others in their calculations, like promising the presidency to others. I guess tyranny of numbers based on two tribe MOAS is not so reliable, lol! Imagine how much inclusion there will be with a deligitimized presidency facing a serious push for secession.
The Kagame wannabes have no luck in Kenya. They were born in a land where Rao the headache was also born :D and not Rwanda or UG, lol. Their dreams will not come true and as a potential victim of their awful nightmares, that makes me very happy.
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Absolutely. No need to legitimize rigging no matter what.
If Jubilee is so confident, there is only one response needed to checkmate Raila: call his bluff with a resounding YES. I see nothing there that is unreasonable given all that happened in the invalidated elections as came out in the petition and as Chebukati's own memo makes clear. If they refuse, good. Let NASA boycott the elections and make Uhuru's life a living hell for one year. It'll be the start of a very serious secession push that some will rubish but will soon be forced to contend with.
Already we can see how losing the petition has forced JP to start including others in their calculations, like promising the presidency to others. I guess tyranny of numbers based on two tribe MOAS is not so reliable, lol! Imagine how much inclusion there will be with a deligitimized presidency facing a serious push for secession.
The Kagame wannabes have no luck in Kenya. They were born in a land where Rao the headache was also born :D and not Rwanda or UG, lol. Their dreams will not come true and as a potential victim of their awful nightmares, that makes me very happy.
The jubilant wants the same structures and individuals that failed rigged the election at the helm without change. He is telling NASA and other Kenyans to go fuck themselves.
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Boycott will mean there will be no voting. You will need to deploy the military to massacre hundreds to get that "walkover". It will mean attacking those who work for the elections. Total violence in Western, Nyanza, Coast, Nairobi, Kitui, Makueni, Machakos etc.
NASWA should just boycott and 'delegitimize' Uhuru. But you're right; NASWA must aim for the sun and settle for the moon even as they prepare for another petition.
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Haven't seen any of these in NASWA official channels. Is it legit?
Maybe Kibra,Mathare and Nyanza would have some modicum of violence. Anyway, keep on trying out all scenarios in your head.
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Ouru goes on National TV and brags to the country that he will rule Kenya, tupende tusipende. He even threatens that if Kenyans elected someone other than him, he has enough legislatures in his back pocket and on his laps who will impeach a duly elected president if NOT him. He then brags that he has enough legislatures to change the constitution but he does not tell us what he intend to change it to. He is just thrilled that he can change it to whatever he wants. This idiot is drunk with power and taking Kenya down with him.
There will be no election on the 17th of October if NASA's demands are not met and he can start being a dictator right away. Once IEBC has elevated him to a dictator then we will deal with him as such.
Absolutely. No need to legitimize rigging no matter what.
If Jubilee is so confident, there is only one response needed to checkmate Raila: call his bluff with a resounding YES. I see nothing there that is unreasonable given all that happened in the invalidated elections as came out in the petition and as Chebukati's own memo makes clear. If they refuse, good. Let NASA boycott the elections and make Uhuru's life a living hell for one year. It'll be the start of a very serious secession push that some will rubish but will soon be forced to contend with.
Already we can see how losing the petition has forced JP to start including others in their calculations, like promising the presidency to others. I guess tyranny of numbers based on two tribe MOAS is not so reliable, lol! Imagine how much inclusion there will be with a deligitimized presidency facing a serious push for secession.
The Kagame wannabes have no luck in Kenya. They were born in a land where Rao the headache was also born :D and not Rwanda or UG, lol. Their dreams will not come true and as a potential victim of their awful nightmares, that makes me very happy.
The jubilant wants the same structures and individuals that failed rigged the election at the helm without change. He is telling NASA and other Kenyans to go fuck themselves.
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Ouru goes on National TV and brags to the country that he will rule Kenya, tupende tusipende. He even threatens that if Kenyans elected someone other than him, he has enough legislatures in his back pocket and on his laps who will impeach a duly elected president if NOT him. He then brags that he has enough legislatures to change the constitution but he does not tell us what he intend to change it to. He is just thrilled that he can change it to whatever he wants. This idiot is drunk with power and taking Kenya down with him.
There will be no election on the 17th of October if NASA's demands are not met and he can start being a dictator right away. Once IEBC has elevated him to a dictator then we will deal with him as such.
The jubilant wants the same structures and individuals that failed rigged the election at the helm without change. He is telling NASA and other Kenyans to go fuck themselves.
This feeling of power also thrills the jubilant on the street to no end. Have you noticed that they keep saying they decided to obey the court, almost as if they have a choice?
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It is true that money cannot buy one class or gravitas. Any leader of a country which calls itself a democracy should have enough class and basic understanding of what a democracy is and should not go on national TV and talk that kind of low life trash Ouru spewed yesterday. His primitivity and lack of respect for this country and its citizens is now in full display. Even Sonko has more class than the son of Jomo. He has no respect or understanding for the basic tenets of a liberal Democracy and therefore he speaks like an idiot.
Ouru goes on National TV and brags to the country that he will rule Kenya, tupende tusipende. He even threatens that if Kenyans elected someone other than him, he has enough legislatures in his back pocket and on his laps who will impeach a duly elected president if NOT him. He then brags that he has enough legislatures to change the constitution but he does not tell us what he intend to change it to. He is just thrilled that he can change it to whatever he wants. This idiot is drunk with power and taking Kenya down with him.
There will be no election on the 17th of October if NASA's demands are not met and he can start being a dictator right away. Once IEBC has elevated him to a dictator then we will deal with him as such.
The jubilant wants the same structures and individuals that failed rigged the election at the helm without change. He is telling NASA and other Kenyans to go fuck themselves.
This feeling of power also thrills the jubilant on the street to no end. Have you noticed that they keep saying they decided to obey the court, almost as if they have a choice?
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The boycott is most welcomed.Secession is an empty threat.The only banana iebc need avoid is Odunga nonsense
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Algurgair printers will do the print job and Chiloba remain substantive CEO of the project team.. NASA should make good it's boycott threat coz they are just wasting our time and energy when clearly they don't have the numbers.
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It is true that money cannot buy one class or gravitas. Any leader of a country which calls itself a democracy should have enough class and basic understanding of what a democracy is and should not go on national TV and talk that kind of low life trash Ouru spewed yesterday. His primitivity and lack of respect for this country and its citizens is now in full display. Even Sonko has more class than the son of Jomo. He has no respect or understanding for the basic tenets of a liberal Democracy and therefore he speaks like an idiot.
Ouru goes on National TV and brags to the country that he will rule Kenya, tupende tusipende. He even threatens that if Kenyans elected someone other than him, he has enough legislatures in his back pocket and on his laps who will impeach a duly elected president if NOT him. He then brags that he has enough legislatures to change the constitution but he does not tell us what he intend to change it to. He is just thrilled that he can change it to whatever he wants. This idiot is drunk with power and taking Kenya down with him.
There will be no election on the 17th of October if NASA's demands are not met and he can start being a dictator right away. Once IEBC has elevated him to a dictator then we will deal with him as such.
The jubilant wants the same structures and individuals that failed rigged the election at the helm without change. He is telling NASA and other Kenyans to go fuck themselves.
This feeling of power also thrills the jubilant on the street to no end. Have you noticed that they keep saying they decided to obey the court, almost as if they have a choice?
One must question the insanity of Kenya in overwhelmingly voting a man who lacks 'class and gravitas'. Quite possible the alternative terrorizes them and gives them nightmares
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It is true that money cannot buy one class or gravitas. Any leader of a country which calls itself a democracy should have enough class and basic understanding of what a democracy is and should not go on national TV and talk that kind of low life trash Ouru spewed yesterday. His primitivity and lack of respect for this country and its citizens is now in full display. Even Sonko has more class than the son of Jomo. He has no respect or understanding for the basic tenets of a liberal Democracy and therefore he speaks like an idiot.
Ouru goes on National TV and brags to the country that he will rule Kenya, tupende tusipende. He even threatens that if Kenyans elected someone other than him, he has enough legislatures in his back pocket and on his laps who will impeach a duly elected president if NOT him. He then brags that he has enough legislatures to change the constitution but he does not tell us what he intend to change it to. He is just thrilled that he can change it to whatever he wants. This idiot is drunk with power and taking Kenya down with him.
There will be no election on the 17th of October if NASA's demands are not met and he can start being a dictator right away. Once IEBC has elevated him to a dictator then we will deal with him as such.
The jubilant wants the same structures and individuals that failed rigged the election at the helm without change. He is telling NASA and other Kenyans to go fuck themselves.
This feeling of power also thrills the jubilant on the street to no end. Have you noticed that they keep saying they decided to obey the court, almost as if they have a choice?
One must question the insanity of Kenya in overwhelmingly voting a man who lacks 'class and gravitas'. Quite possible the alternative terrorizes them and gives them nightmares
Because the verdict is they have not overwhelmingly voted for the fellow, that question is moot.
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It is true that money cannot buy one class or gravitas. Any leader of a country which calls itself a democracy should have enough class and basic understanding of what a democracy is and should not go on national TV and talk that kind of low life trash Ouru spewed yesterday. His primitivity and lack of respect for this country and its citizens is now in full display. Even Sonko has more class than the son of Jomo. He has no respect or understanding for the basic tenets of a liberal Democracy and therefore he speaks like an idiot.
Ouru goes on National TV and brags to the country that he will rule Kenya, tupende tusipende. He even threatens that if Kenyans elected someone other than him, he has enough legislatures in his back pocket and on his laps who will impeach a duly elected president if NOT him. He then brags that he has enough legislatures to change the constitution but he does not tell us what he intend to change it to. He is just thrilled that he can change it to whatever he wants. This idiot is drunk with power and taking Kenya down with him.
There will be no election on the 17th of October if NASA's demands are not met and he can start being a dictator right away. Once IEBC has elevated him to a dictator then we will deal with him as such.
The jubilant wants the same structures and individuals that failed rigged the election at the helm without change. He is telling NASA and other Kenyans to go fuck themselves.
This feeling of power also thrills the jubilant on the street to no end. Have you noticed that they keep saying they decided to obey the court, almost as if they have a choice?
One must question the insanity of Kenya in overwhelmingly voting a man who lacks 'class and gravitas'. Quite possible the alternative terrorizes them and gives them nightmares
Because the verdict is they have not overwhelmingly voted for the fellow, that question is moot.
They did. Zero evidence apart from Nazi fantasies of rigging (unless SCOK says otherwise). That 54% is legit and no amount of barking can bring it down
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It is true that money cannot buy one class or gravitas. Any leader of a country which calls itself a democracy should have enough class and basic understanding of what a democracy is and should not go on national TV and talk that kind of low life trash Ouru spewed yesterday. His primitivity and lack of respect for this country and its citizens is now in full display. Even Sonko has more class than the son of Jomo. He has no respect or understanding for the basic tenets of a liberal Democracy and therefore he speaks like an idiot.
Ouru goes on National TV and brags to the country that he will rule Kenya, tupende tusipende. He even threatens that if Kenyans elected someone other than him, he has enough legislatures in his back pocket and on his laps who will impeach a duly elected president if NOT him. He then brags that he has enough legislatures to change the constitution but he does not tell us what he intend to change it to. He is just thrilled that he can change it to whatever he wants. This idiot is drunk with power and taking Kenya down with him.
There will be no election on the 17th of October if NASA's demands are not met and he can start being a dictator right away. Once IEBC has elevated him to a dictator then we will deal with him as such.
The jubilant wants the same structures and individuals that failed rigged the election at the helm without change. He is telling NASA and other Kenyans to go fuck themselves.
This feeling of power also thrills the jubilant on the street to no end. Have you noticed that they keep saying they decided to obey the court, almost as if they have a choice?
One must question the insanity of Kenya in overwhelmingly voting a man who lacks 'class and gravitas'. Quite possible the alternative terrorizes them and gives them nightmares
Because the verdict is they have not overwhelmingly voted for the fellow, that question is moot.
They did. Zero evidence apart from Nazi fantasies of rigging (unless SCOK says otherwise). That 54% is legit and no amount of barking can bring it down
You lost me. Are you hearing an amount of barking somewhere? Voices perhaps?
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If the process is tainted so are the numbers. The evidence is overwhelming. I didn't even need scok to tell me that the thieving bastards had done a number on kenyans
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I had a Ugandan friend who supported Museveni and was blind to his obvious metermophism from a liberator into a dictator until now. Uhuru has made the transition. He now talkes and acts like a dictator and his tribesmen are cheering him on wildly. We cannot wait for him to be full fledged dictator before we act. The first step is to stop legitimizing a power angry budding dictator. Imagine a soccer game where opponents are bought or threatened to forfeit the game. The mafia used to do that in American boxing. A democracy cannot work when one side uses corruption money to buy and intimidate the other side into submission or to join them. Democracy only works when people are free to think, associate and express themselves. Ouru and Ruto have created an atmosphere which has sucked the air out of democracy, suffocated democracy and democracy is on its death bed. Ouruto will stop at nothing to rig these elections and will never hand over power because they will never allow the elections to be free and fair. I have sadly concluded that stealing elections and creating a fictitious super majority is the goal of this duo and this will be the last semblance of a democratic elections in Kenya before we plunge into a full fledged dictorship and a mockery of justice. NASA should never participate in a sham elections and legitimize these dictators. Let them do it themselves.
If the process is tainted so are the numbers. The evidence is overwhelming. I didn't even need scok to tell me that the thieving bastards had done a number on kenyans
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We can go by the list of strongholds you and LYING Energizer put up before voter registration.
We can also use the governorship as per the 2013 elections (they being the only legally binding elections since the 2017 elections are NULL and VOID)
Pundit please disabuse yourself of the idea that Jubilee actually got votes in Western, Nyamira, Kisii, Narok, Kajiado etc. Jubilee LOST very heavily. Though you claim to have been drunk when Chirchir was stealing, please sober up and accept that Kalenjins and Kikuyus do not have a majority without others and that Kambas, Luhyas, Luos, Miji Kenda, Kisii, Turkana plus plus are the majority.
Nonsense. What makes you think NASA is equal to Jubilee. What formulae are you using to assign weight to political parties? IEBC should get neutral persons with each party allow to object with evidence the partisanship of anyone who has applied for RO job. IEBC should objectively evaluate such evidence and if there is merit - such person will be disqualified.
IEBC commissioner were six months ago - feb this year - selected in an elaborate process - clearly they are not even done with honeymoon.
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IEBC will conduct elections barring judiciary stopping them.The rest are nonsense
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I am not sure I read anybody saying anything different. Not the court; Not NASA and Not Raila. All say IEBC will conduct the elections. Is this another case of creating your own case (like The Mullah, Ngatia, Muite) and then proceeding to answer it.
IEBC will conduct elections barring judiciary stopping them.The rest are nonsense
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How will they conduct elections if NASA is not participating. Its like saying that you will referee a soccer match when you only have one team playing. First and foremost how do you conduct an election with only one presidential candidate. If NASA gets all its supporters to stay home on election day, what election will IEBC will be conducting?
IEBC will conduct elections barring judiciary stopping them.The rest are nonsense
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Boycotting an election is just a technical term. Like a strike.
When you strike you have to picket the employer and fight off strike breaking and strike breakers.
How will they conduct elections if NASA is not participating. Its like saying that you will referee a soccer match when you only have one team playing. First and foremost how do you conduct an election with only one presidential candidate. If NASA gets all its supporters to stay home on election day, what election will IEBC will be conducting?
IEBC will conduct elections barring judiciary stopping them.The rest are nonsense
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Not participating is part of election and the law anticipates such.Raila should formally write to IEBC to withdraw his candidature so IEBC can declare Uhuru elected unopposed.If doesn't withdraw iebc will conduct election and again declare Uhuru the winner coz it's obvious who the winner will be.There only recourse Raila has is to ran to judiciary and convinced the Judges that IEBC are not doing their job...if they ignore as they should the so called minimum condition.IEBC are constitutional body whose job is to conduct elections independently
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I hope you are not banking on NASA withdrawing because it won't happen.
Today marked the beginning of pressure on the IEBC to clean itself. The huge demo ignored by the Githeri Media is just beginning. NASA is drawing up a comprehensive list of initiatives to achieve that.
In the end it will become clear that it is NOT the IEBC behind all the rigging but Uhuru Kenyatta and William Ruto. These two are aberrations that interfered with the country's natural progression towards a democratic society commensurate with her level of development.
Not participating is part of election and the law anticipates such.Raila should formally write to IEBC to withdraw his candidature so IEBC can declare Uhuru elected unopposed.If doesn't withdraw iebc will conduct election and again declare Uhuru the winner coz it's obvious who the winner will be.There only recourse Raila has is to ran to judiciary and convinced the Judges that IEBC are not doing their job.
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No pundit, NASA is not going to make it that easy.
Not participating is part of election and the law anticipates such.Raila should formally write to IEBC to withdraw his candidature so IEBC can declare Uhuru elected unopposed.If doesn't withdraw iebc will conduct election and again declare Uhuru the winner coz it's obvious who the winner will be.There only recourse Raila has is to ran to judiciary and convinced the Judges that IEBC are not doing their job...if they ignore as they should the so called minimum condition.IEBC are constitutional body whose job is to conduct elections independently
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Only the idiotic judiciary can put brake on IEBC otherwise waste more lives in violent demos which the police will easily quell and wake up to find Uhuru is pork.Election will be held on 17th barring a court injunction by SCOK.NASA has no path to electoral victory but sorry we are a democracy and clearly even the suicidal judiciary knows they given the last hail mary pass to Raila.Its ethnic politics stupid.No path to 50%
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You are a firm believer in the coorcive powers of the state when you think you control them. When you were the leasd warrior glorifying the murder of Kikuyus in RV you did not think much about the police.
But then you are special. God created only you and the Kalenjin.
He also created you with the capacity or is it weakness not to see what other people are capable of. He also "blessed" you with selectively amnesia.
You said the exact same stuff when CORD went to the streets to get rid of Isaac Hassan. Then the talks started and you got "busy" only returning to claim that CORD has achieved "nothing". I regret educating you on what had been achieved because you went to Ruto and within a few weeks Duale was in parliament reversing some of the gains, which led to the recent fraud. Luckily the rest of the mechanisms ensured that you were caught red handed.
The police is what we refer to in Luo "ng'ombe ya shangazi". It gives birth and we all pay bride price. It doesn't belong to the elder or youngest son. Uhuru will lose and lose the police as well. Then you will discover the civil methods of resistance - should you have cause.
Only the idiotic judiciary can put brake on IEBC otherwise waste more lives in violent demos which the police will easily quell and wake up to find Uhuru is pork.Election will be held on 17th barring a court injunction by SCOK.NASA has no path to electoral victory but sorry we are a democracy and clearly even the suicidal judiciary knows they given the last hail mary pass to Raila.Its ethnic politics stupid.No path to 50%
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Omollo it's plain simple.Raila political sunset is upon us.You can accept or you can be forced to accept it.Its over for the Luo Nation as far as Jakom goes.Invest in Babu Owino. There is no known maths that could make Raila pork and everyday he is going to be deserted.
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RV pundit, has no moral compass. He is not the first nor the last to believe that might makes right. The Mugumo tree analogy by Kibaki back then reminds me of some of utterances him now-"no path to victory". Kibaki as he sincere believed that their was no path to victory for opposition. Ouru and Ruto are not stronger than the colonialists or the slave owners or the Boers who thought there was no way out for the people they set to oppress. RV Pundit sincerely believes that Ouru and Ruto will buy, intimidate, threaten, murder and force their will on all the peoples of Kenya under the guise of democracy and tribal numbers. It will fail because there will be enough people left outside their sphere of influence to fight back.
Only the idiotic judiciary can put brake on IEBC otherwise waste more lives in violent demos which the police will easily quell and wake up to find Uhuru is pork.Election will be held on 17th barring a court injunction by SCOK.NASA has no path to electoral victory but sorry we are a democracy and clearly even the suicidal judiciary knows they given the last hail mary pass to Raila.Its ethnic politics stupid.No path to 50%
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Pundit
Nyani haoni kundule! I believe you too cannot see your own red ass instead are staring at others and laughing.
Let us imagine -- for your sake - that Uhuru loses the election. Peer in the future. The Kenyatta family has mortgaged everything even their banks to finance this election. The Kikuyu wealthy have done the same until people like Munga are facing bankruptcy as we speak! Munga going bankrupt means Equity going under. There is nothing comparable to it! Perhaps MT everest collapsing in to an abyss and creating a 10km deep valley.
You have not understood why they are willing to negotiate rather than lose. Ruto does not understand it either hence he is likely to be jettisoned. It would mean the end of life as the Kikuyu Intelligentsia knows.
Not because Raila will kill them as they claim! No! Because they lose the government which is the cow they milk. A closer examination of their so called "business" is nothing but the plunder of state coffers.
Ruto having failed will have no relevance. He will be fodder to the Moi family and replaced fast by those ready to renew the ODM alliance.
If you think Raila alone is responsible for the upsurge of NASA you are as mistaken as those now planning all manner of assassination attempts on his life. I hear Poison is top on the list followed by a grisly road or air accident. Raila became an IDEA a long time ago. In fact it is time the party added his name to create NASAR :D :D :D Like it has been done in Pakistan for Nawaz
As for being deserted... mhh Munya deserted who? Who else let's see Musila .. loser Namwamba ... loser ... Gumo ... loser (who needs to stay close to jubilee to avoid charges); Give me some more names. Please make sure they have won an election and did not get 54% or 41% or 32% The desertion narrative is a self-debunking LIE that even you cannot believe.
As for math, we know your math Pundit. You haven't been good at it unless regurgitating what Chirchir tells you to pass to us. Uhuru did not win as you claimed. The only true thing you wrote here (before you were BRIBED through Jordan) is that Uhuru will rig elections!
Omollo it's plain simple.Raila political sunset is upon us.You can accept or you can be forced to accept it.Its over for the Luo Nation as far as Jakom goes.Invest in Babu Owino. There is no known maths that could make Raila pork and everyday he is going to be deserted.