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Title: IEBC Ordered to Publish Voter Register
Post by: Omollo on August 03, 2017, 03:59:29 PM

Title: Re: IEBC Ordered to Publish Voter Register
Post by: Omollo on August 03, 2017, 06:31:38 PM
Title: Re: IEBC Ordered to Publish Voter Register
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on August 03, 2017, 06:45:36 PM

Is this for real?
Title: Re: IEBC Ordered to Publish Voter Register
Post by: vooke on August 03, 2017, 08:37:36 PM
Title: Re: IEBC Ordered to Publish Voter Register
Post by: Kichwa on August 03, 2017, 08:50:41 PM

I thought Jubilee is against going to court too close to the elections or that is just another double standard. Let's wait for Jubilee spinets.

Is this for real?
Title: Re: IEBC Ordered to Publish Voter Register
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on August 03, 2017, 09:03:36 PM

I thought Jubilee is against going to court too close to the elections or that is just another double standard. Let's wait for Jubilee spinets.

Is this for real?

I am not sure about that tweet.  Whether it's true.
Title: Re: IEBC Ordered to Publish Voter Register
Post by: patel on August 03, 2017, 09:25:07 PM
Ngilu is happy about this papers plasted on walls in her polling station does she knows what is on the walls in rigging areas in centro and RV? There should be an online copy.

Title: Re: IEBC Ordered to Publish Voter Register
Post by: Omollo on August 03, 2017, 10:02:05 PM
Ghost voters is the last remaining bridge and hope. If you open the register and suddenly it is found the same person is appearing in 200 polling stations - something nobody can tell if 40,000 lists exist separately, how else would you react?

Obviously there will be another case with all the names and an application to have them struck off.

I thought Jubilee is against going to court too close to the elections or that is just another double standard. Let's wait for Jubilee spinets.
Title: Re: IEBC Ordered to Publish Voter Register
Post by: vooke on August 04, 2017, 01:47:34 AM
NASWA should have purchased a copy of the register and combed through it.

But they are not too dumb to confuse their bullshiet for facts
Title: Re: IEBC Ordered to Publish Voter Register
Post by: vooke on August 04, 2017, 02:15:32 AM
Ngilu is happy about this papers plasted on walls in her polling station does she knows what is on the walls in rigging areas in centro and RV? There should be an online copy.


Read the fifth-seventh line from the bottom starting with 'The' on the sixth line from the bottom.

The manner of publishing the register is at IEBC's discretion. NASWA slept on the job; they should have been more specific
Title: Re: IEBC Ordered to Publish Voter Register
Post by: patel on August 04, 2017, 07:37:32 AM
That ruling is as specific as it can be...it talks of 'The Register'  not some parts of register like iebc monkeys are doing. They have 48hrs to produce the register.
Title: Re: IEBC Ordered to Publish Voter Register
Post by: RV Pundit on August 04, 2017, 07:41:00 AM
Register was released long time ago.NAsa as always looking for lame excuse to enable them cry rigged elections.
Title: Re: IEBC Ordered to Publish Voter Register
Post by: Omollo on August 04, 2017, 05:02:22 PM
When and where was it released?

In what format? Has Jubilee been given a copy of it in its entirety?

If that is the case, why didn't the IEBC adduce the evidence and demand the case be thrown out? Oh.. I forgot Justice Odunga! And if he had refused .. a short trip to the Court of Appeal?

You have just become a propagandist not unlike what Patel says Baghdad Bob.

h
Register was released long time ago.NAsa as always looking for lame excuse to enable them cry rigged elections.
Title: Re: IEBC Ordered to Publish Voter Register
Post by: Omollo on August 04, 2017, 05:08:06 PM
There is no discretion. The law is very specific but JP and IEBC have sought to avoid publication of the register in its entirety.

The purpose of inspecting the entire register is to rule out double registrations, etc. Multiple and mini registers of 40,000 polling stations can not cure the legitimate need to ensure it is free of discrepancies.

It is also more a NASA responsibility than that of any other party including JP
The manner of publishing the register is at IEBC's discretion. NASWA slept on the job; they should have been more specific
Title: Re: IEBC Ordered to Publish Voter Register
Post by: RV Pundit on August 04, 2017, 05:08:23 PM
I recall IEBC releasing it; and publishing it in every polling station. Why on earth would IEBC rig even the basic (if you're not nuts). You guys need to be a little trusting. IEBC are an open book. My friend focus on the 290 RO. Those are the guys who will tie Chebukati hands........

Personally I have confirm my reg details and they are accurate.

When and where was it released?

In what format? Has Jubilee been given a copy of it in its entirety?'re

If that is the case, why didn't the IEBC adduce the evidence and demand the case be thrown out? Oh.. I forgot Justice Odunga! And if he had refused .. a short trip to the Court of Appeal?

You have just become a propagandist not unlike what Patel says Baghdad Bob.

h
Register was released long time ago.NAsa as always looking for lame excuse to enable them cry rigged elections.
Title: Re: IEBC Ordered to Publish Voter Register
Post by: Omollo on August 04, 2017, 05:13:48 PM
From whom and at what price?

You have a lot of suppositions which would be useful had they been underpinned with a minimum degree of intelligence. Those inferences and postulations must surely have made you a celebrity in those Muratina drinking dens where you no doubt preach to the fanatically converted.

NASWA should have purchased a copy of the register and combed through it.

But they are not too dumb to confuse their bullshiet for facts
Title: Re: IEBC Ordered to Publish Voter Register
Post by: Omollo on August 04, 2017, 05:25:59 PM
Congratulations on verifying your details.

NASA has not complained about that. What Gladwell Otieno has done  is demand that the Register in its entirety be opened for inspection. The IEBC has made the register "downloadable in small units of polling stations". That, argues Otieno will not address the concerns people have of double registrations etc.

I know you will say Homa Bay has the largest bla bla bla.. That may be so and definitely wrong. However the basic point is even after we were told the ills KPMG found had been left intact, it has emerged that people with single digit ID cards or even alphabetical numbers exist. Viewing it in its entirety will give a clearer image of the extent, or lack of, such ills.

The sad thing is that you know this only too well and probably think it is very clever of the IEBC to do that so it can favor clever Ruto.

I recall IEBC releasing it; and publishing it in every polling station. Why on earth would IEBC rig even the basic (if you're not nuts). You guys need to be a little trusting. IEBC are an open book. My friend focus on the 290 RO. Those are the guys who will tie Chebukati hands........

Personally I have confirm my reg details and they are accurate.

When and where was it released?

In what format? Has Jubilee been given a copy of it in its entirety?'re

If that is the case, why didn't the IEBC adduce the evidence and demand the case be thrown out? Oh.. I forgot Justice Odunga! And if he had refused .. a short trip to the Court of Appeal?

You have just become a propagandist not unlike what Patel says Baghdad Bob.

h
Register was released long time ago.NAsa as always looking for lame excuse to enable them cry rigged elections.
Title: Re: IEBC Ordered to Publish Voter Register
Post by: vooke on August 04, 2017, 05:47:39 PM
There is no discretion. The law is very specific but JP and IEBC have sought to avoid publication of the register in its entirety.

The purpose of inspecting the entire register is to rule out double registrations, etc. Multiple and mini registers of 40,000 polling stations can not cure the legitimate need to ensure it is free of discrepancies.

It is also more a NASA responsibility than that of any other party including JP
The manner of publishing the register is at IEBC's discretion. NASWA slept on the job; they should have been more specific
Read the ruling once you've taken your meds
Title: Re: IEBC Ordered to Publish Voter Register
Post by: vooke on August 04, 2017, 05:48:36 PM
From whom and at what price?

You have a lot of suppositions which would be useful had they been underpinned with a minimum degree of intelligence. Those inferences and postulations must surely have made you a celebrity in those Muratina drinking dens where you no doubt preach to the fanatically converted.

NASWA should have purchased a copy of the register and combed through it.

But they are not too dumb to confuse their bullshiet for facts

IEBC was hawking copies for 20K, that is if you couldn't afford to camp at any of their offices
Title: Re: IEBC Ordered to Publish Voter Register
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on August 04, 2017, 05:52:52 PM
That ruling is as specific as it can be...it talks of 'The Register'  not some parts of register like iebc monkeys are doing. They have 48hrs to produce the register.

It's indeed at IEBC's discretion.  It does not make it any less shocking though, that there are people vehemently opposed to making it more easily available.
Title: Re: IEBC Ordered to Publish Voter Register
Post by: Omollo on August 04, 2017, 05:56:41 PM
Would you like to share the evidence?

1. Why is that fact NOT in their pleadings
2. Why have they officially stated that the register is not ready for inspection until two to three weeks ago when they dropped that?

I know that Jubilee politicians purchased whatever resembled the register in the run up to their primaries. JP itself used the same faulty register to launch the Digital Cards scam that Tuju ran and extorted millions from aspirants.

That vooke is not the document in contention. And if it were, NASA could ground one of it 11 choppers for a day to by ten of them.

IEBC was hawking copies for 20K, that is if you couldn't afford to camp at any of their offices
Title: Re: IEBC Ordered to Publish Voter Register
Post by: Omollo on August 04, 2017, 06:00:07 PM
I don't mind going low to your level. I got plenty of time today and this time I promise you will get badly injured. Utalia

I have read the entire ruling. For you it id discretion. The key is does the discretion cure the ill?

Read the ruling once you've taken your meds
Title: Re: IEBC Ordered to Publish Voter Register
Post by: Omollo on August 04, 2017, 06:01:58 PM
The problem is not that there are multiple small portions of the same. The problem is one register in its entirety is not available for inspection.
That ruling is as specific as it can be...it talks of 'The Register'  not some parts of register like iebc monkeys are doing. They have 48hrs to produce the register.

It's indeed at IEBC's discretion.  It does not make it any less shocking though, that there are people vehemently opposed to making it more easily available.
Title: Re: IEBC Ordered to Publish Voter Register
Post by: vooke on August 04, 2017, 06:03:07 PM
Would you like to share the evidence?

1. Why is that fact NOT in their pleadings
2. Why have they officially stated that the register is not ready for inspection until two to three weeks ago when they dropped that?

I know that Jubilee politicians purchased whatever resembled the register in the run up to their primaries. JP itself used the same faulty register to launch the Digital Cards scam that Tuju ran and extorted millions from aspirants.

That vooke is not the document in contention. And if it were, NASA could ground one of it 11 choppers for a day to by ten of them.

IEBC was hawking copies for 20K, that is if you couldn't afford to camp at any of their offices
IEBC is not printing copies for NASWA following the ruling. Printing relevant copies at each station satisfies the wildest interpretation of the ruling
Title: Re: IEBC Ordered to Publish Voter Register
Post by: Omollo on August 04, 2017, 06:08:05 PM
Who said they will comply or even show a willingness to do so... If they do, that will reduce Kiambu voters to 450K and Nakuru to 400K spelling the end of Uthamaki.


IEBC is not printing copies for NASWA following the ruling. Printing relevant copies at each station satisfies the wildest interpretation of the ruling
Title: Re: IEBC Ordered to Publish Voter Register
Post by: vooke on August 04, 2017, 06:12:42 PM
Look at what Otieno sought
Quote
These proceedings are the subject of the Notice of Motion dated 18th July, 2017 by which the ex parte applicant herein, Gladwell Otieno, seeks the following orders:

1) AN ORDER OF MANDAMUS do issue to compel the Respondent to publish and open up for public inspection the register of voters as clustered per polling station and to take into account submissions by concerned persons and revise the register accordingly within a reasonable time before the general elections scheduled for the 8th August 2017.

2) AN ORDER OF MANDAMUS to compel the Respondent to publicize and gazette the final register of voters per polling station within such time as reasonable before the general elections scheduled for the 8th August 2017

3) AN ORDER OF PROHIBITION do issue to prohibit the Respondent and its officers from deploying a voter register for use in the general election before the same is subjected to a public inspection as required under the law.

4) SUCH OTHER ORDERS and reliefs as the Honourable Court may deem appropriate in the circumstances.

http://kenyalaw.org/caselaw/cases/export/139468/pdf
Title: Re: IEBC Ordered to Publish Voter Register
Post by: vooke on August 04, 2017, 06:21:11 PM
Who said they will comply or even show a willingness to do so... If they do, that will reduce Kiambu voters to 450K and Nakuru to 400K spelling the end of Uthamaki.


IEBC is not printing copies for NASWA following the ruling. Printing relevant copies at each station satisfies the wildest interpretation of the ruling
You may be an idiot but you're funny.

Read what Otieno sought.

I think it's the Okoyu in her that made her plea so Uthamaki-friendly
Title: Re: IEBC Ordered to Publish Voter Register
Post by: Omollo on August 04, 2017, 06:28:28 PM
It is still impossible to get to you so I propose I do not waste my time anymore. When you finally figure it out kindly let me know.
Title: Re: IEBC Ordered to Publish Voter Register
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on August 04, 2017, 06:28:56 PM
The problem is not that there are multiple small portions of the same. The problem is one register in its entirety is not available for inspection.
That ruling is as specific as it can be...it talks of 'The Register'  not some parts of register like iebc monkeys are doing. They have 48hrs to produce the register.

It's indeed at IEBC's discretion.  It does not make it any less shocking though, that there are people vehemently opposed to making it more easily available.

I understand that point.  I am not sure why anyone, let alone Jubilee, would oppose making it available in one piece, even if it is at IEBC's discretion.  Maybe because NASA wants it?  These guys rarely make any sense.


Title: Re: IEBC Ordered to Publish Voter Register
Post by: vooke on August 04, 2017, 06:30:51 PM
The problem is not that there are multiple small portions of the same. The problem is one register in its entirety is not available for inspection.
That ruling is as specific as it can be...it talks of 'The Register'  not some parts of register like iebc monkeys are doing. They have 48hrs to produce the register.

It's indeed at IEBC's discretion.  It does not make it any less shocking though, that there are people vehemently opposed to making it more easily available.

I understand that point.  I am not sure why anyone, let alone Jubilee, would oppose making it available in one piece, even if it is at IEBC's discretion.  Maybe because NASA wants it?  These guys rarely make any sense.



Before you get to wrap your mind about anyone resisting availing the register, who told you anyone resisted that?
Title: Re: IEBC Ordered to Publish Voter Register
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on August 04, 2017, 06:31:54 PM
The problem is not that there are multiple small portions of the same. The problem is one register in its entirety is not available for inspection.
That ruling is as specific as it can be...it talks of 'The Register'  not some parts of register like iebc monkeys are doing. They have 48hrs to produce the register.

It's indeed at IEBC's discretion.  It does not make it any less shocking though, that there are people vehemently opposed to making it more easily available.

I understand that point.  I am not sure why anyone, let alone Jubilee, would oppose making it available in one piece, even if it is at IEBC's discretion.  Maybe because NASA wants it?  These guys rarely make any sense.



Before you get to wrap your mind about anyone resisting availing the register, who told you anyone resisted that?

I just inferred.
Title: Re: IEBC Ordered to Publish Voter Register
Post by: vooke on August 04, 2017, 06:33:16 PM
The problem is not that there are multiple small portions of the same. The problem is one register in its entirety is not available for inspection.
That ruling is as specific as it can be...it talks of 'The Register'  not some parts of register like iebc monkeys are doing. They have 48hrs to produce the register.

It's indeed at IEBC's discretion.  It does not make it any less shocking though, that there are people vehemently opposed to making it more easily available.

I understand that point.  I am not sure why anyone, let alone Jubilee, would oppose making it available in one piece, even if it is at IEBC's discretion.  Maybe because NASA wants it?  These guys rarely make any sense.



Before you get to wrap your mind about anyone resisting availing the register, who told you anyone resisted that?

I just inferred.
Based on what,your legendary hunches?
Title: Re: IEBC Ordered to Publish Voter Register
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on August 04, 2017, 06:35:23 PM
The problem is not that there are multiple small portions of the same. The problem is one register in its entirety is not available for inspection.
That ruling is as specific as it can be...it talks of 'The Register'  not some parts of register like iebc monkeys are doing. They have 48hrs to produce the register.

It's indeed at IEBC's discretion.  It does not make it any less shocking though, that there are people vehemently opposed to making it more easily available.

I understand that point.  I am not sure why anyone, let alone Jubilee, would oppose making it available in one piece, even if it is at IEBC's discretion.  Maybe because NASA wants it?  These guys rarely make any sense.



Before you get to wrap your mind about anyone resisting availing the register, who told you anyone resisted that?

I just inferred.
Based on what,your legendary hunches?

yeppers.
Title: Re: IEBC Ordered to Publish Voter Register
Post by: vooke on August 04, 2017, 06:56:24 PM
The problem is not that there are multiple small portions of the same. The problem is one register in its entirety is not available for inspection.
That ruling is as specific as it can be...it talks of 'The Register'  not some parts of register like iebc monkeys are doing. They have 48hrs to produce the register.

It's indeed at IEBC's discretion.  It does not make it any less shocking though, that there are people vehemently opposed to making it more easily available.

I understand that point.  I am not sure why anyone, let alone Jubilee, would oppose making it available in one piece, even if it is at IEBC's discretion.  Maybe because NASA wants it?  These guys rarely make any sense.



Before you get to wrap your mind about anyone resisting availing the register, who told you anyone resisted that?

I just inferred.
Based on what,your legendary hunches?

yeppers.
Y hunch tells me your hunch is bullshititng