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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: RV Pundit on October 26, 2016, 02:52:44 PM
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Yet another sad reading of massive systemic corruption in gov.
http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Revealed--Taxpayers-lose-Sh5bn-in-NYS-style-Afya-House-theft/539546-3430494-item-0-y8k9x4/index.html
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Yet another sad reading of massive systemic corruption in gov.
http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Revealed--Taxpayers-lose-Sh5bn-in-NYS-style-Afya-House-theft/539546-3430494-item-0-y8k9x4/index.html
The ps Muraguri and every head of department involved should be sacked immediately. How are this crooks manipulating the IFMIS. I could be wrong but muraguri and muriuki COOP bank MD link need to be investigated. How is bank paid directly not to a company account but directly to coop bank.
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You guys are just jealous while we are eating nyama and you guys are eating mboga. :D :D :D
“I mean, you don’t know government. We can get what you write even before you publish it, including getting print-shots and screenshots of the story. Someone can be reading your messages while sitting here. If there is a need to hack Nation’s system we can. We can even confirm how much money is in your account now,” the PS said when asked to respond to the audit queries.
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Yet another sad reading of massive systemic corruption in gov.
http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Revealed--Taxpayers-lose-Sh5bn-in-NYS-style-Afya-House-theft/539546-3430494-item-0-y8k9x4/index.html
The ps Muraguri and every head of department involved should be sacked immediately. How are this crooks manipulating the IFMIS. I could be wrong but muraguri and muriuki COOP bank MD link need to be investigated. How is bank paid directly not to a company account but directly to coop bank.
Sacked by who ?
The presidents hands are tied by the Katiba, and some of that money is already in JAP 2017 re-election kitty
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Sacked by who ?
The presidents hands are tied by the Katiba, and some of that money is already in JAP 2017 re-election kitty
The question is the president any different? My take he and his DP are the biggest direct and indirect beneficiaries of this massive corruption.
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The auditor should be fired. How dare they report these as theft. It is the new acceptable standard of doing business. Nobody lost any money here. If they did parliament as the supervisor of govt resources could have held public hearings.
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yeah maybe Mailu is innocent; but PS and many guys in that ministry should be fired and investigation should commence asap. If there is an area Jubilee have failed - then it is corruption. Uhuru should make this his priority number one - everything else seem to be working.
The ps Muraguri and every head of department involved should be sacked immediately. How are this crooks manipulating the IFMIS. I could be wrong but muraguri and muriuki COOP bank MD link need to be investigated. How is bank paid directly not to a company account but directly to coop bank.
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Exactly my thought.
A police officer caught stealing is frogmatched and fired immediately, while Waigurus are given a red carpet send off.
Whatever happened to the CS's who were relieved coz of corruption!!! Any case even pending??
Yet another sad reading of massive systemic corruption in gov.
http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Revealed--Taxpayers-lose-Sh5bn-in-NYS-style-Afya-House-theft/539546-3430494-item-0-y8k9x4/index.html
The ps Muraguri and every head of department involved should be sacked immediately. How are this crooks manipulating the IFMIS. I could be wrong but muraguri and muriuki COOP bank MD link need to be investigated. How is bank paid directly not to a company account but directly to coop bank.
Sacked by who ?
The presidents hands are tied by the Katiba, and some of that money is already in JAP 2017 re-election kitty
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yeah maybe Mailu is innocent; but PS and many guys in that ministry should be fired and investigation should commence asap. If there is an area Jubilee have failed - then it is corruption. Uhuru should make this his priority number one - everything else seem to be working.
Pundit,
Am struggling not to fire some matusi at you right now
Because I think you know very well that seriously fighting
corruption is not an option for Uhuru
If it was, why has he not done it despite declaring corruption
a threat to national security or declaring office of the president as
a den of corruption and yet not sucking anybody there
Have you been talking to Itumbi for a JAP social media / communication
strategist consultancy job for the 2017 election ?
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Gumzo..what evidence do you have of uhuru complicity in graft.Uhuru has done more than any of the previous gok but it still very little considering the depth and breadth of the hole.Uhuru just need to laser focus on this.We should never give up in despair.we have specific corruption here..not make believe graft like eurobond.Uhuru has to of course guard against some taking advantage of this war to smear everyone and everything like euronond crowd who are yet to find evidence of graft..but shout eurobond.Here we got something with footprints and fingerprints.
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Please try not to go personal.
When Kenyans have it good, they never emphatize with others. If they did, nobody could face hunger, lack of tuition, etc. Thats why people like JM, Seroney, Mboya died. They tried to make other's lives better by pointing out injustices. Its gross injustice when people steal money allocated to help the dying poor. Even worse is when nobody is held accountable.
yeah maybe Mailu is innocent; but PS and many guys in that ministry should be fired and investigation should commence asap. If there is an area Jubilee have failed - then it is corruption. Uhuru should make this his priority number one - everything else seem to be working.
Pundit,
Am struggling not to fire some matusi at you right now
Because I think you know very well that seriously fighting
corruption is not an option for Uhuru
If it was, why has he not done it despite declaring corruption
a threat to national security or declaring office of the president as
a den of corruption and yet not sucking anybody there
Have you been talking to Itumbi for a JAP social media / communication
strategist consultancy job for the 2017 election ?
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Gumzo..what evidence do you have of uhuru complicity in graft.Uhuru has done more than any of the previous gok but it still very little considering the depth and breadth of the hole.Uhuru just need to laser focus on this.We should never give up in despair.we have specific corruption here..not make believe graft like eurobond.Uhuru has to of course guard against some taking advantage of this war to smear everyone and everything like euronond crowd who are yet to find evidence of graft..but shout eurobond.Here we got something with footprints and fingerprints.
The problem with Eurobond is not so much evidence of corruption, as lack of evidence for anything. If this evidence were there, it would be readily apparent to the Auditor General.
kamwana is thoroughly on board defending this continued lack of transparency with what happened with Eurobond. If there is nothing to hide, he would have no beef with AG probing details about it from wherever he deems fit.
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Those are some nice, thick pieces of tender steak. And we are told that's just from a "small sample". Kazi iendelee.
The rest of you can just meza mate or eat grass; you don't know government!
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Windy..we have enough on our plate to go looking for graft..in something that fed reserve bank of us ,imf,world bank and all those regulatory bodies involve in international debt market have not raised any eyebrows.It would be something else if AG in tray was empty and he can go expensive wild goose chase seeking evidence from us fed bank...the guy need to be fired asap...together with afyia house mafia.We cannot fight graft if those involved are not above board and are swayed only by evidence.The idiot is damaging Kenya ability to tap in foreign debt market..something it has taken us 50yrs to qualify.He simply need to ship out before his term expire in 2019.He just. a raila carry over than need to be shown the door.His predecessor was one Dk njoroge whose integrity was unquestionable and could document all moi and kibaki audit queries era without fear or favour.We need another Dk Njoroge ..a real professional auditor.An auditor is not a ocampo who invites himself into case then investigate and prosecute.He is an auditor.He say there is no receipt to back up a transaction and his jobs end there.Then eacc kicks in.Then Dpp steps in.Then judiciary makes the call.
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Former Safaricom chief executive Michael Joseph has said his priority at the troubled national carrier Kenya Airways will be to implement recommendations of an audit report that has exposed massive corruption at the cash-strapped airline.
http://www.nation.co.ke/business/Former-Safaricom-boss-takes-over-KQ-s-hot-chair/996-3431358-fgfnm8/index.html
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Windy..we have enough on our plate to go looking for graft..in something that fed reserve bank of us ,imf,world bank and all those regulatory bodies involve in international debt market have not raised any eyebrows.It would be something else if AG in tray was empty and he can go expensive wild goose chase seeking evidence from us fed bank...the guy need to be fired asap...together with afyia house mafia.We cannot fight graft if those involved are not above board and are swayed only by evidence.The idiot is damaging Kenya ability to tap in foreign debt market..something it has taken us 50yrs to qualify.He simply need to ship out before his term expire in 2019.He just. a raila carry over than need to be shown the door.His predecessor was one Dk njoroge whose integrity was unquestionable and could document all moi and kibaki audit queries era without fear or favour.We need another Dk Njoroge ..a real professional auditor.An auditor is not a ocampo who invites himself into case then investigate and prosecute.He is an auditor.He say there is no receipt to back up a transaction and his jobs end there.Then eacc kicks in.Then Dpp steps in.Then judiciary makes the call.
Rather than seeking to constrain himself to doing just enough to get a salary, I am for a robust AG sniffing and finding whatever he can in the name of maximum transparency. As long he is not breaking any laws. Is there any law you are aware of that he is breaking? Me neither. Which is all the more alarming that the man is still not able to get to the bottom of the question now going on 2 years.
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Former Safaricom chief executive Michael Joseph has said his priority at the troubled national carrier Kenya Airways will be to implement recommendations of an audit report that has exposed massive corruption at the cash-strapped airline.
http://www.nation.co.ke/business/Former-Safaricom-boss-takes-over-KQ-s-hot-chair/996-3431358-fgfnm8/index.html (http://www.nation.co.ke/business/Former-Safaricom-boss-takes-over-KQ-s-hot-chair/996-3431358-fgfnm8/index.html)
Exactly my thinking. The AG does his thing, then whoever is interested(not just moribund EACC, DPP) will use it. There is nothing that stops kamwana from just leap-frogging - to borrow a familiar term that seems to vanish or develop cold feet where corruption is involved - the dysfunctional institutions by perusing the AG's report and acting on it. He could even work with the same AG as a team to further probe areas of interest.
He can then publicize the facts, shame the individuals, DPP, EACC(if they are capable of such), fire them where he can and publicly demand action, lobby western countries to bar them from entry or otherwise just make life hard for them.
There is no sign that he has done anything other than "wait" for what by his own admission is a dysfunctional EACC or the judiciary to do the work, even though he knows they wont - who doesn't know that? He can easily access the same information and expose these thieves.
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Auditors are like murder scene investigators, n those who don't think n act that way are useless.
just because uhuru said so means nothing. he said Waiguru was clean, or was she?
Windy..we have enough on our plate to go looking for graft..in something that fed reserve bank of us ,imf,world bank and all those regulatory bodies involve in international debt market have not raised any eyebrows.It would be something else if AG in tray was empty and he can go expensive wild goose chase seeking evidence from us fed bank...the guy need to be fired asap...together with afyia house mafia.We cannot fight graft if those involved are not above board and are swayed only by evidence.The idiot is damaging Kenya ability to tap in foreign debt market..something it has taken us 50yrs to qualify.He simply need to ship out before his term expire in 2019.He just. a raila carry over than need to be shown the door.His predecessor was one Dk njoroge whose integrity was unquestionable and could document all moi and kibaki audit queries era without fear or favour.We need another Dk Njoroge ..a real professional auditor.An auditor is not a ocampo who invites himself into case then investigate and prosecute.He is an auditor.He say there is no receipt to back up a transaction and his jobs end there.Then eacc kicks in.Then Dpp steps in.Then judiciary makes the call.
Rather than seeking to constrain himself to doing just enough to get a salary, I am for a robust AG sniffing and finding whatever he can in the name of maximum transparency. As long he is not breaking any laws. Is there any law you are aware of that he is breaking? Me neither. Which is all the more alarming that the man is still not able to get to the bottom of the question now going on 2 years.
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We cannot fight corruption through Magufuli kind of antics - where PORK is all over - this may work in the short term but in the long term what will work are strong institutions. That mean a strong Auditor General offices doing it's work as defined by the constitution and the laws. I am not sure at what point the auditor general felt he needed to investigate everyone including budget controller, central bank of kenya and US, JP Morgan US and all the institution. This is not audit. This someone who picks stuff from the media (raila) and goes on wild goose chase. That is domain of EACC - who act on whistle blowers and can go all the way. The job of the auditor starts somwhere - and it doesn't definitely start in the going to China to ascertain sgr loan or going to Newyork to check Eurobond. It starts where the budget controller ends - where money has been disbursed to a ministry or to commission.
Rather than seeking to constrain himself to doing just enough to get a salary, I am for a robust AG sniffing and finding whatever he can in the name of maximum transparency. As long he is not breaking any laws. Is there any law you are aware of that he is breaking? Me neither. Which is all the more alarming that the man is still not able to get to the bottom of the question now going on 2 years.
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The former EACC chairman philip kinisu company was one of the company that received the money. If the eacc chairman is part of the corruption of the investigative body ,how can corruption end or be reduced. The big problem is a lot of people do business with government through their wives and family which is clear conflict of interest. I once heard Jakoyo Midiwo openly admitting on NTV that all of them do business with government and explaining it that legally there's no reason not to.
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The legacy of Ndegwa commission of 70s. This need to be illegal. You cannot do business when in gov services. Your wife and kids cannot do business with goK either.
The former EACC chairman philip kinisu company was one of the company that received the money. If the eacc chairman is part of the corruption of the investigative body ,how can corruption end or be reduced. The big problem is a lot of people do business with government through their wives and family which is clear conflict of interest. I once heard Jakoyo Midiwo openly admitting on NTV that all of them do business with government and explaining it that legally there's no reason not to.
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Its called Ethics. Nobody follows any ethical principals in Kenya. Taxpayers receive the tab for these unethical behaviors.
DISGUSTING!!!
The legacy of Ndegwa commission of 70s. This need to be illegal. You cannot do business when in gov services. Your wife and kids cannot do business with goK either.
The former EACC chairman philip kinisu company was one of the company that received the money. If the eacc chairman is part of the corruption of the investigative body ,how can corruption end or be reduced. The big problem is a lot of people do business with government through their wives and family which is clear conflict of interest. I once heard Jakoyo Midiwo openly admitting on NTV that all of them do business with government and explaining it that legally there's no reason not to.
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Auditors are criminal investigators, and anyone who does not think outside the box should not be an auditor. Criminals dont show you where they hid the body, its your imagination that finds the body. Uhuru knows where the bodies are hidden, that is why he has been trying to contrain the AG.
We cannot fight corruption through Magufuli kind of antics - where PORK is all over - this may work in the short term but in the long term what will work are strong institutions. That mean a strong Auditor General offices doing it's work as defined by the constitution and the laws. I am not sure at what point the auditor general felt he needed to investigate everyone including budget controller, central bank of kenya and US, JP Morgan US and all the institution. This is not audit. This someone who picks stuff from the media (raila) and goes on wild goose chase. That is domain of EACC - who act on whistle blowers and can go all the way. The job of the auditor starts somwhere - and it doesn't definitely start in the going to China to ascertain sgr loan or going to Newyork to check Eurobond. It starts where the budget controller ends - where money has been disbursed to a ministry or to commission.
Rather than seeking to constrain himself to doing just enough to get a salary, I am for a robust AG sniffing and finding whatever he can in the name of maximum transparency. As long he is not breaking any laws. Is there any law you are aware of that he is breaking? Me neither. Which is all the more alarming that the man is still not able to get to the bottom of the question now going on 2 years.
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We cannot fight corruption through Magufuli kind of antics - where PORK is all over - this may work in the short term but in the long term what will work are strong institutions. That mean a strong Auditor General offices doing it's work as defined by the constitution and the laws. I am not sure at what point the auditor general felt he needed to investigate everyone including budget controller, central bank of kenya and US, JP Morgan US and all the institution. This is not audit. This someone who picks stuff from the media (raila) and goes on wild goose chase. That is domain of EACC - who act on whistle blowers and can go all the way. The job of the auditor starts somwhere - and it doesn't definitely start in the going to China to ascertain sgr loan or going to Newyork to check Eurobond. It starts where the budget controller ends - where money has been disbursed to a ministry or to commission.
Rather than seeking to constrain himself to doing just enough to get a salary, I am for a robust AG sniffing and finding whatever he can in the name of maximum transparency. As long he is not breaking any laws. Is there any law you are aware of that he is breaking? Me neither. Which is all the more alarming that the man is still not able to get to the bottom of the question now going on 2 years.
Wasn't the jubilant bitching the other day that he can't do a Magufuli because his hands are tied? It's been mentioned elsewhere, kamwana can expose the thieves. He can even make life hard for them. All within his power without violating a single law.
And he can do this even as the institutions play catch up. In fact it may be what they need to spur them to action. He could even use it to expand his campaign platform beyond I am your tribe. But he won't. And it is not because he has exhausted all options.
Do you know of any law that the Auditor General is breaking? Me neither.
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We cannot fight corruption through Magufuli kind of antics - where PORK is all over - this may work in the short term but in the long term what will work are strong institutions. That mean a strong Auditor General offices doing it's work as defined by the constitution and the laws. I am not sure at what point the auditor general felt he needed to investigate everyone including budget controller, central bank of kenya and US, JP Morgan US and all the institution. This is not audit. This someone who picks stuff from the media (raila) and goes on wild goose chase. That is domain of EACC - who act on whistle blowers and can go all the way. The job of the auditor starts somwhere - and it doesn't definitely start in the going to China to ascertain sgr loan or going to Newyork to check Eurobond. It starts where the budget controller ends - where money has been disbursed to a ministry or to commission.
You are encouraged to read the Public Audit Act (Kenya). Among other things, you should note the requirement the audit is to be carried out to international standards. I believe the AG's office uses the International Standards of Supreme Audit. In that, you are encouraged to look at the sections on public-sector auditing. You will note that the auditor is to
obtain sufficient and appropriate evidence to enable the auditor to express an opinion as to whether the financial information is free from material misstatement due to fraud or error
And that is to include "financial records, financial systems, transactions ...". (Further, the Public Audit Act leaves it to the AG to decide what it is that he needs to look into; someone like Uhuru has no say in such matters.)
That is what the AG is trying to do in his audit of the "National Exchequer Account". In particular, the "Disclaimer of Opinion" in relation to the Eurobond indicates that so far he has not been able to "obtain sufficient and appropriate evidence to provide a basis for an audit opinion". Apparently he wishes to improve on that.
You have an interesting view on where the AG's job starts. As a matter of fact (and common sense) one of the AG's functions that is "right up there" is to confirm that money that is supposed to be in the Consolidated Fund is actually there; he cannot simply take anybody's---Treasury, Controller of Budget, etc.---on that. (You are also encouraged to appreciate the difference between the "financial" part and the "performance" and "compliance" parts of a public-sector audit.)
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That is an overreaching mangufuli who need to be fired. There are many institutions involve in running gov and unless magufuli ouko is alleging some grand conspiracy running all the way from Nairobi to NewYork he need to take the controller of budget word that she saw the money --central bank word that they bought the dollars- and work backwards - and focus the light on the ministries. The money that came in went through the budget line. In any case let him continue with wild goose chase - we will see in some few months what come of out there - besides the per diem. After those months - he'll need to resign.
He is going to end up messing the good work he has done auditing ministries and other gov department by playing Dr Ndii kind of baseless politics. He has fallen link, hook and sinker into Odinga propaganda and is definitely home bound with his international standard of BS while dr ndii and raila will continue earning from playing politics. If you ask the treasury and they say they got the money, then controller of budget confirms, then central banks say they bought the dollars - that should be enough! What do you hope to get by writing to JP Morgan or Fed Reserve Bank of us :)
We cannot fight corruption through Magufuli kind of antics - where PORK is all over - this may work in the short term but in the long term what will work are strong institutions. That mean a strong Auditor General offices doing it's work as defined by the constitution and the laws. I am not sure at what point the auditor general felt he needed to investigate everyone including budget controller, central bank of kenya and US, JP Morgan US and all the institution. This is not audit. This someone who picks stuff from the media (raila) and goes on wild goose chase. That is domain of EACC - who act on whistle blowers and can go all the way. The job of the auditor starts somwhere - and it doesn't definitely start in the going to China to ascertain sgr loan or going to Newyork to check Eurobond. It starts where the budget controller ends - where money has been disbursed to a ministry or to commission.
You are encouraged to read the Public Audit Act (Kenya). Among other things, you should note the requirement the audit is to be carried out to international standards. I believe the AG's office uses the International Standards of Supreme Audit. In that, you are encouraged to look at the sections on public-sector auditing. You will note that the auditor is to
obtain sufficient and appropriate evidence to enable the auditor to express an opinion as to whether the financial information is free from material misstatement due to fraud or error
And that is to include "financial records, financial systems, transactions ...". (Further, the Public Audit Act leaves it to the AG to decide what it is that he needs to look into; someone like Uhuru has no say in such matters.)
That is what the AG is trying to do in his audit of the "National Exchequer Account". In particular, the "Disclaimer of Opinion" in relation to the Eurobond indicates that so far he has not been able to "obtain sufficient and appropriate evidence to provide a basis for an audit opinion". Apparently he wishes to improve on that.
You have an interesting view on where the AG's job starts. As a matter of fact (and common sense) one of the AG's functions that is "right up there" is to confirm that money that is supposed to be in the Consolidated Fund is actually there; he cannot simply take anybody's---Treasury, Controller of Budget, etc.---on that. (You are also encouraged to appreciate the difference between the "financial" part and the "performance" and "compliance" parts of a public-sector audit.)
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That is an overreaching mangufuli who need to be fired. There are many institutions involve in running gov and unless magufuli ouko is alleging some grand conspiracy running all the way from Nairobi to NewYork he need to take the controller of budget word that she saw the money
As I have tried to explain, his function as an auditor does not include taking anybody's word. That is a matter of common sense; but even if one does not have that, his duties do include auditing the "National Exchequer Account", which is where the Consolidated Fund is located.
If you ask the treasury and they say they got the money, then controller of budget confirms, then central banks say they bought the dollars
Since the AG's job also includes auditing Treasury and Controller of Budget's office, simple logic indicates that he should not and must not take their word on anything. Indeed, the Eurobond is not the only place where the AG's Treasury-audit opinions indicates that there is something to be desired; read the report.
work backwards - and focus the light on the ministries.
See the last sentence in my previous "post".
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Okay let us wait for magufuili to next write to the pope! I share Uhuru sentiment here 100% - something is wrong with Ouko - and - need to be send home. Let us give him six months and we will hear from NewYork Fed Reserve Bank of the US. :D
That is an overreaching mangufuli who need to be fired. There are many institutions involve in running gov and unless magufuli ouko is alleging some grand conspiracy running all the way from Nairobi to NewYork he need to take the controller of budget word that she saw the money
As I have tried to explain, his function as an auditor does not include taking anybody's word. That is a matter of common sense; but even if one does not have that, his duties do include auditing the "National Exchequer Account", which is where the Consolidated Fund is located.
If you ask the treasury and they say they got the money, then controller of budget confirms, then central banks say they bought the dollars
Since the AG's job also includes auditing Treasury and Controller of Budget's office, simple logic indicates that he should not and must not take their word on anything. Indeed, the Eurobond is not the only place where the AG's Treasury-audit opinions indicates that there is something to be desired; read the report.
work backwards - and focus the light on the ministries.
See the last sentence in my previous "post".
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Okay let us wait for magufuili to next write to the pope! I share Uhuru sentiment here 100% - something is wrong with Ouko - and - need to be send home. Let us give him six months and we will hear from NewYork Fed Reserve Bank of the US. :D
Ouko's job is to find the facts ("audit evidence") and then make a determination on the situation ("audit opinion"). Perhaps Eurobond money was eaten, and perhaps not. His job is to find out and tell us, and that is all he needs to do; the idea that he will somehow have failed if it turns out that no money was stolen simply misses the point.
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Okay let us wait for magufuili to next write to the pope! I share Uhuru sentiment here 100% - something is wrong with Ouko - and - need to be send home. Let us give him six months and we will hear from NewYork Fed Reserve Bank of the US. :D
Ouko's job is to find the facts ("audit evidence") and then make a determination on the situation ("audit opinion"). Perhaps Eurobond money was eaten, and perhaps not. His job is to find out and tell us, and that is all he needs to do; the idea that he will somehow have failed if it turns out that no money was stolen simply misses the point.
I have nothing more to add.
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No problem except he would have wasted our time and money - and worse would have impeded our ability to float another eurobond - by discouraging the would be bond holders. The time and money he would have use to audit many of our counties that totally lack any systems or controls - but control more billions than EUROBOND every year. The auditor need to know when to stop looking.
Remember to float Eurobond we had to pay Angoleasing some 1.5B!! Now thanks to many fools who want to play baseless politics we might end up not being able to float more and more eurobonds - and will resort to domestic borrowing - further squeezing out private individual and families ability to borrow from local banks.
What is so special about 2.5B eurobond..when treasury this year is projected to borrow 4B USD from treasury bonds. It only special because Raila and his groupies wanted to play politricks.
Ouko's job is to find the facts ("audit evidence") and then make a determination on the situation ("audit opinion"). Perhaps Eurobond money was eaten, and perhaps not. His job is to find out and tell us, and that is all he needs to do; the idea that he will somehow have failed if it turns out that no money was stolen simply misses the point.
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The time and money he would have use to audit many of our counties that totally lack any systems or controls -
He also audits counties, as he is required to do. You can find the relevant reports here:
http://www.kenao.go.ke/index.php/reports/cat_view/2-reports/11-county-governments/79-county-government-reports-2014
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He has yet to scratch the surface. I met a guy from his office who just move to the county. The Kenao are now opening county office. All along they were operating from regional or provincial office. So clearly this Ouko fellow has more priorities than go on a wild goose chase in fed reserve bank of us. Our counties are a BIG MESS.
As a patriotic kenyan i am angered when I see people try to tarnish what we've worked so hard to get to. Our ability to freely float debt in international markets like most developed countries and tap in bottomless finances at very cheap interest. Now this ouko fool has decided to rubbish controller of budget, treasury, cbk, imf, wb and all those guys who already send him eft documents - and now want to go inside the fed reserve banks - and check the vaults:) to confirm if indeed our CBK has 7.5B USD worth of dollars there. What expensive nonsense is that.
Treasury is the meantime working hard on another roadshow to float another eurobond....and these kind of baseless useless sideshows that are now going the second yr WITHOUT aNY IOTa OF EDIVENCE..don't help. They don't help our national interest and AG paid by us - need to know better.
We should be celebrating our maiden eurobond as opportunity to be independent (no need to crawl at DC or China if we want to borrow...we present our fundamentals to the world of fund managers and they give us the money)..unless you're the fool (like Ouko) who think eurobond should be visible in projects! treasury borrows locally now twice the amount of eurobond they borrowed in 2014! This is akin to prof nyongo claiming safaricom was being sold cheaply at 5shs per share :) :) you'd think some of the bozoos with phd had at least some basic understanding of modern finance.
The time and money he would have use to audit many of our counties that totally lack any systems or controls -
He also audits counties, as he is required to do. You can find the relevant reports here:
http://www.kenao.go.ke/index.php/reports/cat_view/2-reports/11-county-governments/79-county-government-reports-2014
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Now this ouko fool has decided to rubbish controller of budget, treasury, cbk, imf, wb and all those guys who already send him eft documents -
For Treasury and Controller of Budget, see above. What IMF said: the bond issue was successful, and GoK had access to the money. That's it. I don't recall anyone disputing that, least of all the AG "rubbishing" it. Did the World Bank have anything else? If so, what, and where and how did the AG "rubbish" it?
One more time: the AG's job is not just to accept whatever he is given by Treasury and COB; if it were that simple, then his job would not also include auditing Treasury and COB. Is that really too complicated to understand?
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The corruption in governments seems to start in budgeting and allocation, then disbursement i.e IFMIS http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Opinion-and-Analysis/Graft-war-must-start-with-IFMIS-loopholes/539548-3432368-item-0-mk8d36z/index.html .Whatever happened to office of management and budget http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Treasury-stripped-of-budget-role-in-new-anti-graft-war/539546-2968928-rf3m0xz/index.html .
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Yeah that IFMIS system need to be seriously strengthen. Seem it free for all. It making corruption even easier. This is problem with badly thought out computerization.
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It has to start at the top. Kimagufuli. Anything else you might as well use toilet paper to plug a leakage.
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The corruption in governments seems to start in budgeting and allocation, then disbursement i.e IFMIS http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Opinion-and-Analysis/Graft-war-must-start-with-IFMIS-loopholes/539548-3432368-item-0-mk8d36z/index.html .Whatever happened to office of management and budget http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Treasury-stripped-of-budget-role-in-new-anti-graft-war/539546-2968928-rf3m0xz/index.html .
The real problem is in the people, not in the IFMIS or any other system. The "sealing of loopholes" won't necessarily do much good, because at the end of the day there will, of necessity, be people with all sorts of access and control, and if such people include scoundrels, then ... What needs to be clearly understood, to start with, is that there is no technology that can make up for the lack of moral fibre.
Computerized systems and whatever can make it easier to detect theft, but detection has never been the problem in Kenya; whatever the scandal, the perpetrators are always known. Big-time thieves in Kenya always get away with it, and they will continue in their mischief as long as that is the case.
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It has to start at the top. Kimagufuli. Anything else you might as well use toilet paper to plug a leakage.
Our His Excellency has stated it quite clearly: Make all the noise you care to make, lakini meat-eating will continue.
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The 2010 constitution was a start but it needed to be mothered by a leader who gave two crap about it. Unfortunately, it was yanked by desperate ICC indictees and their cronies who now fill our legislature...you know, that body that's supposed to do checking, oversight and what-not. And we talk of institutions? Institutions are not created magically by documents, people. They are nurtured through persistent commitment until they become ubiquitous, 'the way things are' as a matter of course. At that point, you can absolve leadership of some responsibility. I haven't given up on our country but a half of us are not surprised in the least. We knew what we got when the duo took over. I happen to think Uhuru is a good fellow deep down, but the man cannot extract himself from corruption whatever he does. Not because he does not want but because he needs it for his own political survival. It's the thing that got him where he is. He's not about to have a Saul of Tarsus Damascus moment anytime soon.
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The 2010 constitution was a start but it needed to be mothered by a leader who gave two crap about it. Unfortunately, it was yanked by desperate ICC indictees and their cronies who now fill our legislature...you know, that body that's supposed to do checking, oversight and what-not. And we talk of institutions? Institutions are not created magically by documents, people. They are nurtured through persistent commitment until they become ubiquitous, 'the way things are' as a matter of course. At that point, you can absolve leadership of some responsibility. I haven't given up on our country but a half of us are not surprised in the least. We knew what we got when the duo took over. I happen to think Uhuru is a good fellow deep down, but the man cannot extract himself from corruption whatever he does. Not because he does not want but because he needs it for his own political survival. It's the thing that got him where he is. He's not about to have a Saul of Tarsus Damascus moment anytime soon.
Yep. Institutions are not magical. It still takes hard work for them to have any value.
Meanwhile, Muraguri has been summoned by one of the institutions. He is to appear there and be quizzed by the same. I am a bit confused. About the script. Aren't they supposed to first storm Afya House?
Health Cabinet Secretary Cleopa Mailu has been summoned to appear before the national anti-graft agency concerning the Sh3.1 billion scandal.
The Ethics and Anti-Corruption Commission (EACC) has also summoned Health Principal Secretary Nicholas Muraguri and seven other officials at the ministry for questioning over reports of misappropriation of funds.
In a statement sent to newsrooms, EACC said Dr Muraguri would be grilled today while the CS would be quizzed tomorrow. The two are expected to shed light on reports that Sh3.1 billion was lost in a scam that has sucked in members of President Uhuru Kenyatta's family.
http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/health/article/2000221830/eacc-summons-cs-mailu-ps-muraguri-over-sh3b-scam
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Meanwhile, Muraguri has been summoned by one of the institutions. He is to appear there and be quizzed by the same. I am a bit confused. About the script. Aren't they supposed to first storm Afya House?
Missing step: he also has to record a statement somewhere.
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Well said bro.
Institutions only work when political interference is non existent. Uhuru may be nice but the Jubilee system is as corrupt as they come. They know each other, so they contact each other in the middle of the nite. When there are contracts to be awarded they then will have one person create 40 fake companies so that they can benefit. Then when it is exposed, they will defend one to the hilt. Those of us who dont have brains go around repeating what these goons are saying and voila, the investigation disappears. Same thing with counties, where it is even worse. Meanwhile, borrowing has reached 4trillion and not much to show for except private property.
Amani leader Musalia Mudavadi has warned that Kenyans are getting poorer as a result of Jubilee's bad borrowing habits.
He told the Star on Tuesday it was worrying that foreign debt has accrued to more than Sh2.5 trillion since 2013 yet there is no development to show for it.
Mudavadi also warned that rampant corruption will cripple the country's economic growth if not checked and addressed in good time.
He said the vice is to blame for the starvation millions of Kenyans are facing, and other problems including the lack of school fees.
"I have always said Kenyans deserve better in this age. The country incurs debts to be paid by the poor yet there are no improved services. So what are you doing?" he asked.
The politician said none of this will be tolerated if he elected president in the August 8, 2017 general election.
Mudavadi plans to form a national super alliance with Cord leaders Raila Odinga, Kalonzo Musyoka and Moses Wetang'ula to defeat Jubilee next year.
"We will ensure things are done properly. Kenyans deserve accountability from their government, not deception," he said.
Read: Mudavadi to chart path for super alliance during Machakos meet
Speaking separately, Suba MP John Mbadi said the situation will worsen following plans by the government to float a second Eurobond worth Sh60 billion.
"Before they came to power, the country's foreign debt stood at Sh1 trillion. For the four years they have been in power, the figure has tripled. This endangers the country's key infrastructure projects and stability," he said.
The 2010 constitution was a start but it needed to be mothered by a leader who gave two crap about it. Unfortunately, it was yanked by desperate ICC indictees and their cronies who now fill our legislature...you know, that body that's supposed to do checking, oversight and what-not. And we talk of institutions? Institutions are not created magically by documents, people. They are nurtured through persistent commitment until they become ubiquitous, 'the way things are' as a matter of course. At that point, you can absolve leadership of some responsibility. I haven't given up on our country but a half of us are not surprised in the least. We knew what we got when the duo took over. I happen to think Uhuru is a good fellow deep down, but the man cannot extract himself from corruption whatever he does. Not because he does not want but because he needs it for his own political survival. It's the thing that got him where he is. He's not about to have a Saul of Tarsus Damascus moment anytime soon.
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Well said bro.
Institutions only work when political interference is non existent. Uhuru may be nice but the Jubilee system is as corrupt as they come. They know each other, so they contact each other in the middle of the nite. When there are contracts to be awarded they then will have one person create 40 fake companies so that they can benefit. Then when it is exposed, they will defend one to the hilt. Those of us who dont have brains go around repeating what these goons are saying and voila, the investigation disappears. Same thing with counties, where it is even worse. Meanwhile, borrowing has reached 4trillion and not much to show for except private property.
Correct.
Our institutions were primarily setup for the protection of the elite.
Source: 50+ years of Kenyan history (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_in_Kenya).
Expecting them to then turn around and punish said thieving elite is a pipe dream.
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Honesty works. :D
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