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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: RV Pundit on October 08, 2024, 08:01:40 PM
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DPORK: Kindiki - to secure Mt kenya east
Interior: Mwangi Kiunjuri - to secure the Mt kenya Diaspora.
Mt kenya as you know is 3 legged wheel - Mt kenya East (Meru-Embus) will be excited with Kindiki and possible 2032 stab.
Mt kenya diaspora are very worried now - and if they can get someone to secure peace with diaspora in RV/Coast - they will not mind Ruto - and here is where powerful Mwangi Kiunjuri in charge of security comes in.
Kiunjuri with security docket will take war to Gachagua even in Nyeri.
For now Ruto will try to confine Ruto slowly to Nyeri.
He will attack from East, Diaspora, and Kiambu.
Ndidi - Nyoro has messed up by 50-50 like Kiunjuri in 2022.
So Ruto will likely write off Muranga-Nyeri - but will give Ndidi the assigment.
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Dreaming Continues………
Once Ruto started with working with Raila he lost 70% of Mt Kenya .
Once he decided to impeach Gachagua that was the last Nail in the coffin for Ruto and Mt Kenyas relationship .
I can tell you for free he is more hated now in Mt Kenya than even Raila .
In doing the two above Ruto has galvanized Mt Kenya ,akin to what Raila did in 2005-2007 .
Mt Kenya would not have sponsored someone to stand for 2027 elections but now there will be a New Mt Kenya Kingpin as Ruto becomes No 3 if he ever makes it to 2027 .
DPORK: Kindiki - to secure Mt kenya east
Interior: Mwangi Kiunjuri - to secure the Mt kenya Diaspora.
Mt kenya as you know is 3 legged wheel - Mt kenya East (Meru-Embus) will be excited with Kindiki and possible 2032 stab.
Mt kenya diaspora are very worried now - and if they can get someone to secure peace with diaspora in RV/Coast - they will not mind Ruto - and here is where powerful Mwangi Kiunjuri in charge of security comes in.
Kiunjuri with security docket will take war to Gachagua even in Nyeri.
For now Ruto will try to confine Ruto slowly to Nyeri.
He will attack from East, Diaspora, and Kiambu.
Ndidi - Nyoro has messed up by 50-50 like Kiunjuri in 2022.
So Ruto will likely write off Muranga-Nyeri - but will give Ndidi the assigment.
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Possible but getting Gema back ni ngumu.
Riggy will likely continue ground game during Senate and court challenges. Once the traitors are listed, a small by-election will expose the true state of affairs. I don't imagine it would go well at all for Ruto.
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Possible but getting Gema back ni ngumu.
Riggy will likely continue ground game during Senate and court challenges. Once the traitors are listed, a small by-election will expose the true state of affairs. I don't imagine it would go well at all for Ruto.
RiggyG atafinywa. He will be isolated n won't have any leader bar Kahiga. The rented ones will leave him without dpork. This is a political neophyte
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Dreaming Continues………
Once Ruto started with working with Raila he lost 70% of Mt Kenya .
Once he decided to impeach Gachagua that was the last Nail in the coffin for Ruto and Mt Kenyas relationship .
I can tell you for free he is more hated now in Mt Kenya than even Raila .
In doing the two above Ruto has galvanized Mt Kenya ,akin to what Raila did in 2005-2007 .
Mt Kenya would not have sponsored someone to stand for 2027 elections but now there will be a New Mt Kenya Kingpin as Ruto becomes No 3 if he ever makes it to 2027 .
DPORK: Kindiki - to secure Mt kenya east
Interior: Mwangi Kiunjuri - to secure the Mt kenya Diaspora.
Mt kenya as you know is 3 legged wheel - Mt kenya East (Meru-Embus) will be excited with Kindiki and possible 2032 stab.
Mt kenya diaspora are very worried now - and if they can get someone to secure peace with diaspora in RV/Coast - they will not mind Ruto - and here is where powerful Mwangi Kiunjuri in charge of security comes in.
Kiunjuri with security docket will take war to Gachagua even in Nyeri.
For now Ruto will try to confine Ruto slowly to Nyeri.
He will attack from East, Diaspora, and Kiambu.
Ndidi - Nyoro has messed up by 50-50 like Kiunjuri in 2022.
So Ruto will likely write off Muranga-Nyeri - but will give Ndidi the assigment.
Mt Kenya hated Ruto in 2007 blaming him for PEv but once they understood Ruto innocence....Ruto will not give up on mt Kenya with 3yrs to go. He will pursue many strategies including odm n anc. Now he will go with mt kenya east n diaspora
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There is no post Riggy G in Centro for Kenya kwanza. Most likely Mungiki will make a comeback. Gema MP who voted yes I don't envy them. Kiunjuri own son is already insulting him. Mr saprano gay Kindiki I don't see him venturing beyond Tharaka nithi. He mowed down over 500 Gen z and still abducting more and killing them. Kindiki will pay. Expect tribal clashes starting with urban centres.
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GEMA is gone.Its over.
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GEMA is gone.Its over.
No problem. Kenya ni kubwa. Ruto can't keep someone trying to kill him to appease you.
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There is no post Riggy G in Centro for Kenya kwanza. Most likely Mungiki will make a comeback. Gema MP who voted yes I don't envy them. Kiunjuri own son is already insulting him. Mr saprano gay Kindiki I don't see him venturing beyond Tharaka nithi. He mowed down over 500 Gen z and still abducting more and killing them. Kindiki will pay. Expect tribal clashes starting with urban centres.
Ruto is on top..post 25th June..no such jokes will be allowed. Gema are free to join opposition. But peace is not option. It's a must
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DPORK: Kindiki - to secure Mt kenya east
Interior: Mwangi Kiunjuri - to secure the Mt kenya Diaspora.
Mt kenya as you know is 3 legged wheel - Mt kenya East (Meru-Embus) will be excited with Kindiki and possible 2032 stab.
Mt kenya diaspora are very worried now - and if they can get someone to secure peace with diaspora in RV/Coast - they will not mind Ruto - and here is where powerful Mwangi Kiunjuri in charge of security comes in.
Kiunjuri with security docket will take war to Gachagua even in Nyeri.
For now Ruto will try to confine Ruto slowly to Nyeri.
He will attack from East, Diaspora, and Kiambu.
Ndidi - Nyoro has messed up by 50-50 like Kiunjuri in 2022.
So Ruto will likely write off Muranga-Nyeri - but will give Ndidi the assigment.
Actually a very possible scenario Ruto now must play defensive but this is just for the time being things will escalate starting 2026, and Ruto will be a slave of Baba till elections time.
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There is no post Riggy G in Centro for Kenya kwanza. Most likely Mungiki will make a comeback. Gema MP who voted yes I don't envy them. Kiunjuri own son is already insulting him. Mr saprano gay Kindiki I don't see him venturing beyond Tharaka nithi. He mowed down over 500 Gen z and still abducting more and killing them. Kindiki will pay. Expect tribal clashes starting with urban centres.
Ruto is on top..post 25th June..no such jokes will be allowed. Gema are free to join opposition. But peace is not option. It's a must
Peace cant be forced you know that very well, look at Palestine Israel still fighting Hamas for over 1 year , and still no end in site, jews are now living in bunkers sad life
Similar scenario can happen in Kenya ,Kikuyus are vicious and ruthless
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You havent met kalenjin - who are cold, calculating and efficient war machines. One pokot can hold KDF for days. Just do not take war to Kalenjin nation.
HAPANA JARIBU.
Even USA of A were suprised by efficiency of 2007 of kicking out 600K people in 3 days. That like uprooting Meru county in 3 days.
Kalenjin nation have war infrastracture you dont want to incite - because again 7M people united - erupting - will do heavy damage in very few hours.
Kabila ingine you need to plan, fund, etc mungiki, then 10 people turn on war day. Kalenjin war cry - 1 million warriors - in an hour - without fail.
Peace cant be forced you know that very well, look at Palestine Israel still fighting Hamas for over 1 year , and still no end in site, jews are now living in bunkers sad life
Similar scenario can happen in Kenya ,Kikuyus are vicious and ruthless
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GEMA is gone and gone forever . They will never vote for anyone else apart from their own in the near future .
Having said that Ruto will make alot of changes inside his kitchen cabinet . The people who adviced him to go for Gachagua snd who adviced him to start co-operation with Raila will go .
Additionally Ruto has to deliver a referendum according to his deal with Raila . Here is where fireworks will be anything different from BBI and one shilling one vote will further alienate him from GEMA .
Also agreement on items on referendumn will expose rhe different ideologies between Ruto and Raila.
There is noway Ruto can recover from this .
Raila tried after 20 years in 2022 and couldnt , he also never recovered from betraying Ruto in 2008 . Thats why majority of Kalenjins even if they like Ruto they wary of Raila , they are not confident on the co-operation with Rails and dont trust him .
In kenyan politics fatal mistakes is what costs you power . Moi made one 2002 , Raila has been making the same mistake in 2007 and 2013 and this is Rutos fatal mistake he will be No 3 come 2027.
Possible but getting Gema back ni ngumu.
Riggy will likely continue ground game during Senate and court challenges. Once the traitors are listed, a small by-election will expose the true state of affairs. I don't imagine it would go well at all for Ruto.
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You shouldnt worry about Gachagus , You should worry about The core voters who made Ruto president 49% of Ruto winning vote came from Mt Kenya . That one has evaporated in the thin air.
Ruto is now 49% weaker that he was in last election . Thats is a major hurdle . Singing Gachagua will be isolated wont bring that back .remove Gachagua from the picture and see things clear .Its over between Mt Kenya and Ruto .
Possible but getting Gema back ni ngumu.
Riggy will likely continue ground game during Senate and court challenges. Once the traitors are listed, a small by-election will expose the true state of affairs. I don't imagine it would go well at all for Ruto.
RiggyG atafinywa. He will be isolated n won't have any leader bar Kahiga. The rented ones will leave him without dpork. This is a political neophyte
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You are wrong Majority of Mt Kenya 70% blamed Raila and understood Ruto might have been used . The Mt Kenya is Rift Valley 30% whatever reason you are calling them diaspora just goes to show your Moist traits blamed Ruto . The ones who blamed Ruto never went to the voting centers in 2022 . They stayed away . Most likely in 2027 they will cast their votes against Ruto . One of the reason why Ruto will be No 3 come 2027 .
Dreaming Continues………
Once Ruto started with working with Raila he lost 70% of Mt Kenya .
Once he decided to impeach Gachagua that was the last Nail in the coffin for Ruto and Mt Kenyas relationship .
I can tell you for free he is more hated now in Mt Kenya than even Raila .
In doing the two above Ruto has galvanized Mt Kenya ,akin to what Raila did in 2005-2007 .
Mt Kenya would not have sponsored someone to stand for 2027 elections but now there will be a New Mt Kenya Kingpin as Ruto becomes No 3 if he ever makes it to 2027 .
DPORK: Kindiki - to secure Mt kenya east
Interior: Mwangi Kiunjuri - to secure the Mt kenya Diaspora.
Mt kenya as you know is 3 legged wheel - Mt kenya East (Meru-Embus) will be excited with Kindiki and possible 2032 stab.
Mt kenya diaspora are very worried now - and if they can get someone to secure peace with diaspora in RV/Coast - they will not mind Ruto - and here is where powerful Mwangi Kiunjuri in charge of security comes in.
Kiunjuri with security docket will take war to Gachagua even in Nyeri.
For now Ruto will try to confine Ruto slowly to Nyeri.
He will attack from East, Diaspora, and Kiambu.
Ndidi - Nyoro has messed up by 50-50 like Kiunjuri in 2022.
So Ruto will likely write off Muranga-Nyeri - but will give Ndidi the assigment.
Mt Kenya hated Ruto in 2007 blaming him for PEv but once they understood Ruto innocence....Ruto will not give up on mt Kenya with 3yrs to go. He will pursue many strategies including odm n anc. Now he will go with mt kenya east n diaspora
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Raila achieved what he was wishing for in silver platter . Raila in 2022 prayers were GEMA to abandon Ruto . He managed that by infiltrating Kenya kwanza and making Ruto do the mistake of impeaching Gachagua . He is now waiting for the referendumn and it will home and dry for him .
There is no post Riggy G in Centro for Kenya kwanza. Most likely Mungiki will make a comeback. Gema MP who voted yes I don't envy them. Kiunjuri own son is already insulting him. Mr saprano gay Kindiki I don't see him venturing beyond Tharaka nithi. He mowed down over 500 Gen z and still abducting more and killing them. Kindiki will pay. Expect tribal clashes starting with urban centres.
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Thanks Jaduong no need of many short stories theories . I bet now you are happy last time after Railas loss you were crying saying how you are always losing . Politics is the art of calculations and waiting your opponents to make Mistakes . It took Ruto to get power to start making mistakes . It happens like that .
GEMA is gone.Its over.
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Go tell that to the birds, when did the killing scheme take place while just last month in August they were transversing every place trying to pacify Raila coming into government .
GEMA is gone.Its over.
No problem. Kenya ni kubwa. Ruto can't keep someone trying to kill him to appease you.
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The fact is post 25 th June in all political aspects Ruto lost legitimacy of ruling Kenya . It took the army and Raila support to survive .
Having said that Ruto only commands support of Legislature and his self appointed Government . Biggest Majority of Kenya does not support him . They cant wait for 2027 to vote him out . Hence will become no 3 .
There is no post Riggy G in Centro for Kenya kwanza. Most likely Mungiki will make a comeback. Gema MP who voted yes I don't envy them. Kiunjuri own son is already insulting him. Mr saprano gay Kindiki I don't see him venturing beyond Tharaka nithi. He mowed down over 500 Gen z and still abducting more and killing them. Kindiki will pay. Expect tribal clashes starting with urban centres.
Ruto is on top..post 25th June..no such jokes will be allowed. Gema are free to join opposition. But peace is not option. It's a must
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Ruto needs to conduct a referendums latest 2025 . Thats where things will escalate . Yote yawezakana bila Ruto will be the rallying call . He will be humbled just lime Moi .
DPORK: Kindiki - to secure Mt kenya east
Interior: Mwangi Kiunjuri - to secure the Mt kenya Diaspora.
Mt kenya as you know is 3 legged wheel - Mt kenya East (Meru-Embus) will be excited with Kindiki and possible 2032 stab.
Mt kenya diaspora are very worried now - and if they can get someone to secure peace with diaspora in RV/Coast - they will not mind Ruto - and here is where powerful Mwangi Kiunjuri in charge of security comes in.
Kiunjuri with security docket will take war to Gachagua even in Nyeri.
For now Ruto will try to confine Ruto slowly to Nyeri.
He will attack from East, Diaspora, and Kiambu.
Ndidi - Nyoro has messed up by 50-50 like Kiunjuri in 2022.
So Ruto will likely write off Muranga-Nyeri - but will give Ndidi the assigment.
Actually a very possible scenario Ruto now must play defensive but this is just for the time being things will escalate starting 2026, and Ruto will be a slave of Baba till elections time.
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First nonone has monopoly of violence . Secondly we are not in 2007 . Things are different now . Then Kibaki didnt want to use the army due to it could have brought divisions in the ranks and would have ended up in mumity kalenjins were a significant number in the military .
Now the army majority is not Kalenjins , if any war breaks out expect the divisions to trick down to military and the results will be different .thirdly Ruto escaled ICC by a whisker , you as one oerson who leaked the emails of witness know . If any war happens when he is in power he will be back in Hague answering questions. He would not want to be in that position again.
You havent met kalenjin - who are cold, calculating and efficient war machines. One pokot can hold KDF for days. Just do not take war to Kalenjin nation.
HAPANA JARIBU.
Even USA of A were suprised by efficiency of 2007 of kicking out 600K people in 3 days. That like uprooting Meru county in 3 days.
Kalenjin nation have war infrastracture you dont want to incite - because again 7M people united - erupting - will do heavy damage in very few hours.
Kabila ingine you need to plan, fund, etc mungiki, then 10 people turn on war day. Kalenjin war cry - 1 million warriors - in an hour - without fail.
Peace cant be forced you know that very well, look at Palestine Israel still fighting Hamas for over 1 year , and still no end in site, jews are now living in bunkers sad life
Similar scenario can happen in Kenya ,Kikuyus are vicious and ruthless
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That would be Mt Kenya's biggest mistake. Between any Mt Kenya candidate and Ruto, Ruto will win. Not because Kenyans love him, but they loath another Mt Kenya president more than they hate Ruto.
GEMA is gone and gone forever . They will never vote for anyone else apart from their own in the near future .
Having said that Ruto will make alot of changes inside his kitchen cabinet . The people who adviced him to go for Gachagua snd who adviced him to start co-operation with Raila will go .
Additionally Ruto has to deliver a referendum according to his deal with Raila . Here is where fireworks will be anything different from BBI and one shilling one vote will further alienate him from GEMA .
Also agreement on items on referendumn will expose rhe different ideologies between Ruto and Raila.
There is noway Ruto can recover from this .
Raila tried after 20 years in 2022 and couldnt , he also never recovered from betraying Ruto in 2008 . Thats why majority of Kalenjins even if they like Ruto they wary of Raila , they are not confident on the co-operation with Rails and dont trust him .
In kenyan politics fatal mistakes is what costs you power . Moi made one 2002 , Raila has been making the same mistake in 2007 and 2013 and this is Rutos fatal mistake he will be No 3 come 2027.
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You said that in 2023 . Politics does not work like that . The way the consitution is made it gives GEMA a head start . The reason why Raila wants to change the constitution .
That would be Mt Kenya's biggest mistake. Between any Mt Kenya candidate and Ruto, Ruto will win. Not because Kenyans love him, but they loath another Mt Kenya president more than they hate Ruto.
GEMA is gone and gone forever . They will never vote for anyone else apart from their own in the near future .
Having said that Ruto will make alot of changes inside his kitchen cabinet . The people who adviced him to go for Gachagua snd who adviced him to start co-operation with Raila will go .
Additionally Ruto has to deliver a referendum according to his deal with Raila . Here is where fireworks will be anything different from BBI and one shilling one vote will further alienate him from GEMA .
Also agreement on items on referendumn will expose rhe different ideologies between Ruto and Raila.
There is noway Ruto can recover from this .
Raila tried after 20 years in 2022 and couldnt , he also never recovered from betraying Ruto in 2008 . Thats why majority of Kalenjins even if they like Ruto they wary of Raila , they are not confident on the co-operation with Rails and dont trust him .
In kenyan politics fatal mistakes is what costs you power . Moi made one 2002 , Raila has been making the same mistake in 2007 and 2013 and this is Rutos fatal mistake he will be No 3 come 2027.
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They dont understand that.
That would be Mt Kenya's biggest mistake. Between any Mt Kenya candidate and Ruto, Ruto will win. Not because Kenyans love him, but they loath another Mt Kenya president more than they hate Ruto.
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It Kalenjin and Ruto who gave Uhuru that 10 yrs - otherwise no other community of big ones will agree to deputize Mt kenya soon - not now when you clearly dont have senior leaders.
And then add to Kibaki incumbency getting transferred to Uhuru.
You said that in 2023 . Politics does not work like that . The way the consitution is made it gives GEMA a head start . The reason why Raila wants to change the constitution .
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I agree its a fact that Kalenjins made Uhuru President with no run off in both 2013 and 2017 . Its also a fact Mt Kenya made Ruto president in 2022 . The difference between Uhuru and Ruto is Uhuru maintained his winning coalition to win his second term while Ruto has killed his winning Coalition before the second election .
In all 3 instances it was easier to win because Mt Kenya numbers gave a head start . Without Mt Kenya Ruto is seeing No 3 position in 2027 .
It Kalenjin and Ruto who gave Uhuru that 10 yrs - otherwise no other community of big ones will agree to deputize Mt kenya soon - not now when you clearly dont have senior leaders.
And then add to Kibaki incumbency getting transferred to Uhuru.
You said that in 2023 . Politics does not work like that . The way the consitution is made it gives GEMA a head start . The reason why Raila wants to change the constitution .
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Reality is something else . Constitution needs to be changed first .
Ruto and Raila have a pact on that .
They dont understand that.
That would be Mt Kenya's biggest mistake. Between any Mt Kenya candidate and Ruto, Ruto will win. Not because Kenyans love him, but they loath another Mt Kenya president more than they hate Ruto.
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I agree its a fact that Kalenjins made Uhuru President with no run off in both 2013 and 2017 . Its also a fact Mt Kenya made Ruto president in 2022 . The difference between Uhuru and Ruto is Uhuru maintained his winning coalition to win his second term while Ruto has killed his winning Coalition before the second election .
In all 3 instances it was easier to win because Mt Kenya numbers gave a head start . Without Mt Kenya Ruto is seeing No 3 position in 2027 .
It Kalenjin and Ruto who gave Uhuru that 10 yrs - otherwise no other community of big ones will agree to deputize Mt kenya soon - not now when you clearly dont have senior leaders.
And then add to Kibaki incumbency getting transferred to Uhuru.
You said that in 2023 . Politics does not work like that . The way the consitution is made it gives GEMA a head start . The reason why Raila wants to change the constitution .
i told you odm ya Raila Ruto was going for it ...he has one leg inside
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Same Raila who abandined Moi in 2002 , decided to fight and undermine Kibaki from 2003-2007 , same Raila who fired Ruto and chased Ruto out of ODM from 2008 - 2011 , Same Raila who stood against Uhuru inn2013 and 2017 , same Raila who betrayed Kalonzo for Martha Karua in 2022 .
Ruto and Raila have been in a Proxy fight since 2001 even when they were ODM together Ruto was under Kalonzos wing . Raila said it clearly the only person who has been consistent in fighting him to gain power since time memorial has been Ruto go read his book after 2013 loss .
Wait and see what will happen …….
I agree its a fact that Kalenjins made Uhuru President with no run off in both 2013 and 2017 . Its also a fact Mt Kenya made Ruto president in 2022 . The difference between Uhuru and Ruto is Uhuru maintained his winning coalition to win his second term while Ruto has killed his winning Coalition before the second election .
In all 3 instances it was easier to win because Mt Kenya numbers gave a head start . Without Mt Kenya Ruto is seeing No 3 position in 2027 .
It Kalenjin and Ruto who gave Uhuru that 10 yrs - otherwise no other community of big ones will agree to deputize Mt kenya soon - not now when you clearly dont have senior leaders.
And then add to Kibaki incumbency getting transferred to Uhuru.
You said that in 2023 . Politics does not work like that . The way the consitution is made it gives GEMA a head start . The reason why Raila wants to change the constitution .
i told you odm ya Raila Ruto was going for it ...he has one leg inside
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Noway and Kikuyus are very upset and emotional. Once they calm down, they will discover earth is hard and only coalitions can win power.
Ruto problem is that he now has the bigger trust deficit not Gema.
That would be Mt Kenya's biggest mistake. Between any Mt Kenya candidate and Ruto, Ruto will win. Not because Kenyans love him, but they loath another Mt Kenya president more than they hate Ruto.
GEMA is gone and gone forever . They will never vote for anyone else apart from their own in the near future .
Having said that Ruto will make alot of changes inside his kitchen cabinet . The people who adviced him to go for Gachagua snd who adviced him to start co-operation with Raila will go .
Additionally Ruto has to deliver a referendum according to his deal with Raila . Here is where fireworks will be anything different from BBI and one shilling one vote will further alienate him from GEMA .
Also agreement on items on referendumn will expose rhe different ideologies between Ruto and Raila.
There is noway Ruto can recover from this .
Raila tried after 20 years in 2022 and couldnt , he also never recovered from betraying Ruto in 2008 . Thats why majority of Kalenjins even if they like Ruto they wary of Raila , they are not confident on the co-operation with Rails and dont trust him .
In kenyan politics fatal mistakes is what costs you power . Moi made one 2002 , Raila has been making the same mistake in 2007 and 2013 and this is Rutos fatal mistake he will be No 3 come 2027.
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GEMA does not even 40%. You are taking Meru and Embu for granted. A Mt. Kenya candidate can end up on top after the first round with 35%. Second round stuck at 35% and the other candidate, God forbid it is Ruto with 65%. Hard facts and our Mt. kenya brothers will have to face reality. Join the rest of the Kenyans to kick Ruto out. This is mission impossible for Mt Kenya alone.
You said that in 2023 . Politics does not work like that . The way the consitution is made it gives GEMA a head start . The reason why Raila wants to change the constitution .
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Leave Raila alone. He is now part of Kenya's history. Face reality of today. Mt. Kenya cannot bring down Ruto alone. See the embarassment your kingpin is facing in parliament. Even the support he is getting from Ukambani MPs is tied on conditions, that he supports Kalonzo for president in 2027. If that is not the case, all Ukambani support will evaporate in seconds.
Same Raila who abandined Moi in 2002 , decided to fight and undermine Kibaki from 2003-2007 , same Raila who fired Ruto and chased Ruto out of ODM from 2008 - 2011 , Same Raila who stood against Uhuru inn2013 and 2017 , same Raila who betrayed Kalonzo for Martha Karua in 2022 .
Ruto and Raila have been in a Proxy fight since 2001 even when they were ODM together Ruto was under Kalonzos wing . Raila said it clearly the only person who has been consistent in fighting him to gain power since time memorial has been Ruto go read his book after 2013 loss .
Wait and see what will happen …….
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35% from where - even 25% will be hard for GEMA candidate.
We had Kibaki run - when GEMA had numerical advantage - he scored 30% in 1997.
Now GEMA numbers have gone down for 30yrs later.
He'd be lucky to score 25%.
Ruto has the incumbent, the apponter of IEBC, and with DPORK to sale (sure bet for 2032) is hard to beat unless all of them combined behind Raila.
Ruto v Raila (as combined joint candidate) hapo I will start doing MOASS.
Will Kikuyu chauvanist like Nowayaha process supporting Raila versus Ruto:
Hapo sioni.
GEMA does not even 40%. You are taking Meru and Embu for granted. A Mt. Kenya candidate can end up on top after the first round with 35%. Second round stuck at 35% and the other candidate, God forbid it is Ruto with 65%. Hard facts and our Mt. kenya brothers will have to face reality. Join the rest of the Kenyans to kick Ruto out. This is mission impossible for Mt Kenya alone.
You said that in 2023 . Politics does not work like that . The way the consitution is made it gives GEMA a head start . The reason why Raila wants to change the constitution .
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Noway, which between the two devils would you choose?
35% from where - even 25% will be hard for GEMA candidate.
We had Kibaki run - when GEMA had numerical advantage - he scored 30% in 1997.
Now GEMA numbers have gone down for 30yrs later.
He'd be lucky to score 25%.
Ruto has the incumbent, the apponter of IEBC, and with DPORK to sale (sure bet for 2032) is hard to beat unless all of them combined behind Raila.
Ruto v Raila (as combined joint candidate) hapo I will start doing MOASS.
Will Kikuyu chauvanist like Nowayaha process supporting Raila versus Ruto: :D :D :D :D
Hapo sioni.
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Its not about me. Im giving feedback on the feelings on ground.
Mt Kenya supported Ruto for a particular reason . The biggest one is that Ruto didnt prescribe to politics of betrayal .
they didnt follow Uhuru because had betrayed Ruto and was asking GEMA to support Raila .
Now after getting elected Ruto goes ahead snd betrays Mt Kenya and does a handshake with Raila albeit with his own reasons to survive GENZ . He goes ahead and impeaches Gachagua something which Uhuru didnt do to Ruto and if he did Mt Kenya would still still have been against it .
This has been a biggest lesson for Mt Kenya it has galvanized Mt Kenya and they wont support anyone again outside Mt Kenya . Nor Ruto Nor Raila .
Reason why Ruto will be No 3 and Raila No 2 in the upcoming elections . Pre-election coalitions will be a thing of the past not unless the constitution is amended . Who would want to be designate DP then be impeached through handshake after coming to power . All the big wigs will fight it out and make post election coalitions and yes hoing forward re-runs will be a common thing .
Noway, which between the two devils would you choose?
35% from where - even 25% will be hard for GEMA candidate.
We had Kibaki run - when GEMA had numerical advantage - he scored 30% in 1997.
Now GEMA numbers have gone down for 30yrs later.
He'd be lucky to score 25%.
Ruto has the incumbent, the apponter of IEBC, and with DPORK to sale (sure bet for 2032) is hard to beat unless all of them combined behind Raila.
Ruto v Raila (as combined joint candidate) hapo I will start doing MOASS.
Will Kikuyu chauvanist like Nowayaha process supporting Raila versus Ruto: :D :D :D :D
Hapo sioni.
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Second round with 35% would it be easier to attract the other parties than lets say Ruto who comes 3rd with 15% .
Now it would be upon Ruto to either support Raila or the GEMA candidate .
Havent you noticed Raila , Kalonzo are not antagonizing Mt Kenya as Ruto goes ahead and burns all bridges .
If Ruto was to join Raila he would be deputy president designate and just as Gachagua has been impeached he will be menu on the table for impeachment or you think part of the coalition agreement would have do not impeach president /deputy president .
You guys seems not know how low the threshold now os to impeach the deputy President .
GEMA does not even 40%. You are taking Meru and Embu for granted. A Mt. Kenya candidate can end up on top after the first round with 35%. Second round stuck at 35% and the other candidate, God forbid it is Ruto with 65%. Hard facts and our Mt. kenya brothers will have to face reality. Join the rest of the Kenyans to kick Ruto out. This is mission impossible for Mt Kenya alone.
You said that in 2023 . Politics does not work like that . The way the consitution is made it gives GEMA a head start . The reason why Raila wants to change the constitution .
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Continue dreaming , you will get rude awakening in 2027 when Ruto polls No 3 .
35% from where - even 25% will be hard for GEMA candidate.
We had Kibaki run - when GEMA had numerical advantage - he scored 30% in 1997.
Now GEMA numbers have gone down for 30yrs later.
He'd be lucky to score 25%.
Ruto has the incumbent, the apponter of IEBC, and with DPORK to sale (sure bet for 2032) is hard to beat unless all of them combined behind Raila.
Ruto v Raila (as combined joint candidate) hapo I will start doing MOASS.
Will Kikuyu chauvanist like Nowayaha process supporting Raila versus Ruto:
Hapo sioni.
GEMA does not even 40%. You are taking Meru and Embu for granted. A Mt. Kenya candidate can end up on top after the first round with 35%. Second round stuck at 35% and the other candidate, God forbid it is Ruto with 65%. Hard facts and our Mt. kenya brothers will have to face reality. Join the rest of the Kenyans to kick Ruto out. This is mission impossible for Mt Kenya alone.
You said that in 2023 . Politics does not work like that . The way the consitution is made it gives GEMA a head start . The reason why Raila wants to change the constitution .
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Ruto vs Riggy vs Raila obvious Riggy will be mkia. But I don't buy that Riggy is dumb or emotional like the wife. If anything he looks calm in the storm. What Gema (or Luo or anyone) won't do is the ignorance of dissolving their parties.
Raila, Ruto, Kalonzo are the do-or-die candidates. Riggy, Mdvd are kingmakers.
Now imagine Almighty Moi with absolute power and the Goldenberg stash had 36-40%. I wouldn't be so confident about Ruto's chances. Don't be surprised if a turncoat like Mdvd dumps Ruto for Raila either.
35% from where - even 25% will be hard for GEMA candidate.
We had Kibaki run - when GEMA had numerical advantage - he scored 30% in 1997.
Now GEMA numbers have gone down for 30yrs later.
He'd be lucky to score 25%.
Ruto has the incumbent, the apponter of IEBC, and with DPORK to sale (sure bet for 2032) is hard to beat unless all of them combined behind Raila.
Ruto v Raila (as combined joint candidate) hapo I will start doing MOASS.
Will Kikuyu chauvanist like Nowayaha process supporting Raila versus Ruto:
Hapo sioni.
GEMA does not even 40%. You are taking Meru and Embu for granted. A Mt. Kenya candidate can end up on top after the first round with 35%. Second round stuck at 35% and the other candidate, God forbid it is Ruto with 65%. Hard facts and our Mt. kenya brothers will have to face reality. Join the rest of the Kenyans to kick Ruto out. This is mission impossible for Mt Kenya alone.
You said that in 2023 . Politics does not work like that . The way the consitution is made it gives GEMA a head start . The reason why Raila wants to change the constitution .
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Ruto is more fire than Moi.
Ruto vs Riggy vs Raila obvious Riggy will be mkia. But I don't buy that Riggy is dumb or emotional like the wife. If anything he looks calm in the storm. What Gema (or Luo or anyone) won't do is the ignorance of dissolving their parties.
Raila, Ruto, Kalonzo are the do-or-die candidates. Riggy, Mdvd are kingmakers.
Now imagine Almighty Moi with absolute power and the Goldenberg stash had 36-40%. I wouldn't be so confident about Ruto's chances. Don't be surprised if a turncoat like Mdvd dumps Ruto for Raila either.
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Ruto should put Kiunjuri as interior minister to crackdown heavily on RiggyG mungiki attempted rebirth by the desperado n to especially try to assured the Kikuyu diaspora that all is well. Kikuyus diaspora must avoid becoming pawns
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Ruto should put Kiunjuri as interior minister to crackdown heavily on RiggyG mungiki attempted rebirth by the desperado n to especially try to assured the Kikuyu diaspora that all is well. Kikuyus diaspora must avoid becoming pawns
Wait first for Riggy fate to be sealed in court. If he is rescued expect big problems as he declare victory with vindication.
Second, Raila AU outcome. If he lose expect problems. For one if Ruto is to be endorsed with ODM getting DPORK, they will demand UDA dissolve into original home ODM as a guarantee at a minimum.
It will be a mountain to accommodate ODM and keep GEMA crumbs.
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Riggy is done - Judiciary knows realpolitik - he cant work with Ruto - thursday or so - the conservatory orders will be set aside - and Kindiki will be sworn in.
RiggyG without answering how he navigated politics while impeached and permanently barred will go nowhere. He will certainly try to form a new party. Jubilee/Kenyattas will attack him.
AU/ODM is long play. AU we got Feb - and Raila will knick that. But If I was Ruto - I would not give ODM any more ground - without them agreeing to STRONG COUPLING with UDA - that means negotiation on proper merger and them getting out opposition.
Short play is to keep GEMA in somewhat functional - at least the 80 out 89 Mps/Senators - will want to continue being in GOK.
Kindiki - will have to work hard to justify being DPORK - he can at least work hard in Mt kenya East - and if he loses - he get fired.
Kiunjuri & RV diaspora are ones really worried about yet another war with RV - and they are going to be willing to listen to Ruto.
Central Proper/Kikuyu - are beating the drums of war from their comfort in Muranga/Kiambu/Nyeri - Ruto should cut that off - leave it for Muhoho Kenyatta - RiggyG is done kaput.
Wait first for Riggy fate to be sealed in court. If he is rescued expect big problems as he declare victory with vindication.
Second, Raila AU outcome. If he lose expect problems. For one if Ruto is to be endorsed with ODM getting DPORK, they will demand UDA dissolve into original home ODM as a guarantee at a minimum.
It will be a mountain to accommodate ODM and keep GEMA crumbs.
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I still see Mwangi Kiunjuri making the interior. Ruto need a Kikuyu warrrior to replace a fallen Kikuyu warrrior
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I still see Mwangi Kiunjuri making the interior. Ruto need a Kikuyu warrrior to replace a fallen Kikuyu warrrior
Gema plus Kamba they are gone. Major storm is looming. Mobilization and radicalization of Gema in full force. Ndumberi was just a prelude. It's going to be tough 3 yrs.
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I still see Mwangi Kiunjuri making the interior. Ruto need a Kikuyu warrrior to replace a fallen Kikuyu warrrior
Gema plus Kamba they are gone. Major storm is looming. Mobilization and radicalization of Gema in full force. Ndumberi was just a prelude. It's going to be tough 3 yrs.
The more reason Ruto need someone to go hard on RiggyG n mungiki. Kiunjuri fits the bill
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Prof kindiki to be sworn tomorrow as kenyans 3rd Deputy President
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Swearing in to start soon.
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Kiunjuri is a non factor , he had a party in 2013 and could even gather an Mp…..
GEMA is gone , let it go , its over . Try Raila at least he has a following
I still see Mwangi Kiunjuri making the interior. Ruto need a Kikuyu warrrior to replace a fallen Kikuyu warrrior
Gema plus Kamba they are gone. Major storm is looming. Mobilization and radicalization of Gema in full force. Ndumberi was just a prelude. It's going to be tough 3 yrs.
The more reason Ruto need someone to go hard on RiggyG n mungiki. Kiunjuri fits the bill
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Well, you said the same about RiggyG when I told you he will be DPORK, then now you feel so hurt :)
Mwangi Kiunjuri was to be DPORK
He messed up.
Once he is appointed Interior - he will take war to RiggyG and Uhuru in Mt Kenya
Even if Kikuyu vote is gone - Ruto will make it hard for Riggy and Uhuru.
It not going to be just leave and go.
Kiunjuri is a non factor , he had a party in 2013 and could even gather an Mp…..
GEMA is gone , let it go , its over . Try Raila at least he has a following
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Nop I said it even before you mentioned , check the archives , unlike you we arw active participants it the political discourse of the day.
I told you Gachagua will not be GEMAs Kkngpin in 2027 election you didnt understand why I was saying that perhaps now its coming to light .
Im telling you Raila will run in 2027 and Ruto will be No 3 still you are pretending you dont understand anything .
Kiunjuri and Uhuru have been ling time buddies , Ruto will not touch Uhuru .
And for the records I wanted Gachagua impeachment to go through in order to weaken Ruto , which it has .
Ruto will be No 3 that one you can run away from it.
Well, you said the same about RiggyG when I told you he will be DPORK, then now you feel so hurt :)
Mwangi Kiunjuri was to be DPORK
He messed up.
Once he is appointed Interior - he will take war to RiggyG and Uhuru in Mt Kenya
Even if Kikuyu vote is gone - Ruto will make it hard for Riggy and Uhuru.
It not going to be just leave and go.
Kiunjuri is a non factor , he had a party in 2013 and could even gather an Mp…..
GEMA is gone , let it go , its over . Try Raila at least he has a following
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You write lots of nonsense
Nop I said it even before you mentioned , check the archives , unlike you we arw active participants it the political discourse of the day.
I told you Gachagua will not be GEMAs Kkngpin in 2027 election you didnt understand why I was saying that perhaps now its coming to light .
Im telling you Raila will run in 2027 and Ruto will be No 3 still you are pretending you dont understand anything .
Kiunjuri and Uhuru have been ling time buddies , Ruto will not touch Uhuru .
And for the records I wanted Gachagua impeachment to go through in order to weaken Ruto , which it has .
Ruto will be No 3 that one you can run away from it.
Well, you said the same about RiggyG when I told you he will be DPORK, then now you feel so hurt :)
Mwangi Kiunjuri was to be DPORK
He messed up.
Once he is appointed Interior - he will take war to RiggyG and Uhuru in Mt Kenya
Even if Kikuyu vote is gone - Ruto will make it hard for Riggy and Uhuru.
It not going to be just leave and go.
Kiunjuri is a non factor , he had a party in 2013 and could even gather an Mp…..
GEMA is gone , let it go , its over . Try Raila at least he has a following
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Ruto arrives. Kindiki to be sworn and be deputy president in the next few minutes.
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I hope you and Ruto have prepped for the plethora of troubles Riggy will throw at you. With nothing to lose now. You underrate him at your peril.
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The by-election jitters must be the one holding back the announcement of an elected individual. Probably to reshuffle or bring the likes of Monica Juma to handle the mzungu abduction PR.
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The by-election jitters must be the one holding back the announcement of an elected individual. Probably to reshuffle or bring the likes of Monica Juma to handle the mzungu abduction PR.
There will be no IEBC soon because Ruto is scared shitless of a by-election.
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It wiper who went to court.
And blocked or delayed it.
By-election gani Ruto is scared of.
There will be no IEBC soon because Ruto is scared shitless of a by-election.
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I think MaDVD will get it.
Kiunjuri will get something else.
Foreign Affairs will need someone more polished.
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Pundit getting wrong umpteenth time …..
Possible but getting Gema back ni ngumu.
Riggy will likely continue ground game during Senate and court challenges. Once the traitors are listed, a small by-election will expose the true state of affairs. I don't imagine it would go well at all for Ruto.
RiggyG atafinywa. He will be isolated n won't have any leader bar Kahiga. The rented ones will leave him without dpork. This is a political neophyte
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Robina changed shoes with Pundit , She seems to be right these days and Pundit not
I hope you and Ruto have prepped for the plethora of troubles Riggy will throw at you. With nothing to lose now. You underrate him at your peril.
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I am actually right.
RiggyG steam is going off.
Raila has come to extinguish the remaining embers.
He is done.
Mt Kenya and Kikuyu have gone through the ANGER stage.
Now they reality - do they risk another 2007 isolation without power or play safe.
Pundit getting wrong umpteenth time …..
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To the contrary , Gachagua is disparaging Ruto and Ruto cant do anything back.
Raila joining Ruto has dwindled his support from his corebase .
Mt Kenya will send Ruto out of statehouse come 2027 . Ask Uhuru one of their own about 2022. The Kiraitus call it yellow fever ….
I am actually right.
RiggyG steam is going off.
Raila has come to extinguish the remaining embers.
He is done.
Mt Kenya and Kikuyu have gone through the ANGER stage.
Now they reality - do they risk another 2007 isolation without power or play safe.
Pundit getting wrong umpteenth time …..
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Look like you learnt nothing in 1990s :)
Hiyo hasira mulianza mapema
Ruto 3yrs to just win one day election.
How will he fail :) :)
Anyway wait for IEBC kwanza selection soon.
To the contrary , Gachagua is disparaging Ruto and Ruto cant do anything back.
Raila joining Ruto has dwindled his support from his corebase .
Mt Kenya will send Ruto out of statehouse come 2027 . Ask Uhuru one of their own about 2022. The Kiraitus call it yellow fever ….
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No new Constitution in 90s
No IEBC
no Supreme Court all Judges selected by President
no Independent Media only KBC
no social media
All 90 elections were rigged cant happen with new laws ,media and more informed people
Look like you learnt nothing in 1990s :)
Hiyo hasira mulianza mapema
Ruto 3yrs to just win one day election.
How will he fail :) :)
Anyway wait for IEBC kwanza selection soon.
To the contrary , Gachagua is disparaging Ruto and Ruto cant do anything back.
Raila joining Ruto has dwindled his support from his corebase .
Mt Kenya will send Ruto out of statehouse come 2027 . Ask Uhuru one of their own about 2022. The Kiraitus call it yellow fever ….