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Title: Oldie and 5thgl are the only diathifora relocatees..still standing
Post by: KenyanPlato on August 01, 2024, 06:06:52 AM
Teach me your way masters
Kenya is not for me. Everytime I stay there more that 1 month I want to leave as soon as possible. I am used to maisha nyeeeeweeee hapa yes.
Title: Re: Oldie and 5thgl are the only diathifora relocatees..still standing
Post by: . on August 14, 2024, 08:35:24 AM
Teach me your way masters
Kenya is not for me. Everytime I stay there more that 1 month I want to leave as soon as possible. I am used to maisha nyeeeeweeee hapa yes.

Njamba ya Ita,

Kwiinya is not half bad.with certain caveats.

This guy is spot on, on most counts. It all boils down to having a very clear plan. Whether Kwiinya will be either paradise or hell is 100% contingent on that.
That being said, one thing about the place is what my rela, who had relocated many years before me, once told me many years before I relocated
He said "you really assume you know Kwiiinya when you visit for hols or even for a few months a year, but you really know nothing. To know the place kabiza kabiza, you need to be on the ground for a MINIMUM OF 2 YEARS nonstop."
I didn't agree with him at the time but I eventually did.

Kwiinya is a strange place.

Corruption is all consuming. Mutunga was right that it's a bandit economy. While majuu you think you know how corrupt the place is lakini haujui kabiza.
Even to get your kid in nursery school kakitu katolewe. In your posh gated community certain underground fees must be paid before you do anything meaningful. And that is before Kanjo and NCA visit for more. Gava is the worst. Absolutely nothing moves without kakitu and I mean NOTHING. The judiciary from top to bottom all live and die at the mercy of currency notes. No person with money ever spends time in any known jail. Grand Mullah once said that it takes a special type of human being to argue a case in court in great detail yet he already knows the judge has been bribed so the case is lost already. That's kwiinya for you. Shiny buildings, middro class in shiny gas guzzling machines, sipping Java or Artcaffe lattes in beautiful balconies, 200k USD homes coming up like child's play and so on, but it is all built on a deep rooted foundation-bed of plain theft and dishonesty. Yet the strange thing is that nobody talks about it! So the visitor or tourist will come and think systems are functioning nywee, not realising it's all a sham. Nobody talks about it though! I think Kwiinyan's who have never left have gotten so used to it that they are resigned to it all and have accepted it as normal.

Again, Kwiinya is a strange place.

If you can get over that bit then Kwiinya is nyweee. Have a plan, invest squaaa well before you arrive hapa for a soft landing. See your relocation as retirement. Self-sustaining and peaceful. The weather can't be matched. The peace of mind too. The social ties run deep. Your kids are not being force-fed gay-trans BS daily in school and can grow up with a sense of culture and identity. Plus so much more.

Also, to add to what this kwuy says regarding being flexible  I would say come knowing that your ideas, goals, plans and values will shift as you age. As human beings we are never static. You may come loving Kanairo, but after 5 years hapo you're craving luxury cabin life amongst goats in Oldonyo Sabuk! When the kids grow up, you and wifey may want to use your US passports to go explore the wahindi festivals in Goa for a few months, or sample bites in Singapore. Those may be the best times of your life, I tells ya. The good thing is labour in Kwiiinya is cheap so you can basically live a king's life full of servants, shamba boys and security people and so on meaning they take care of everything while you're away and of you even more when you return.And all your properties are safe and well manned.

Bottom line, as the guy is basically saying, it takes a certain category of Kwiinyan-American to hack it back in the motherland. Bila plan na resources you are properly screwed and in serious trouble, buddy.

NI hayo tu.
Title: Re: Oldie and 5thgl are the only diathifora relocatees..still standing
Post by: KenyanPlato on August 14, 2024, 09:34:11 AM
Thank you for your detailed reply. I stayed for 90 days last year. I was busy paying kitu kidogo after kidogo. As I grow old and having raised to kids in yues..it becomes clear that I will have to love Kenya from a distance. I may just make it a place to come for prolonged respite and then come back here to take care of my grandkids and deal with Akina shanikwas and spanyos..Anyway I am glad you shifted and adopted even  changed your views on having kiddos. I may come there in 2032 and run for a political seat like Mad scientist. Mwaniki died while laying ground work for githunguri seat. My friend stocko didn't even get to see her son after 49 years in Canada as an illegal immigrant. Africans have been thru hell. Stocko exchange was a genius. She had skipped 3 grades in primary and graduated from Uon as one of the youngest graduates. She left my village to go study social science in Canada and she never left Canada. Anyway who knows what the future holds. I try my best to stay healthy and active hoping in can live to my 80s. So I have 35 years to figure out the remaining third of my life
Title: Re: Oldie and 5thgl are the only diathifora relocatees..still standing
Post by: patel on August 14, 2024, 12:22:41 PM
Beautiful and informative thread. Keep it going. Retiring in Kenya is a must.
Title: Re: Oldie and 5thgl are the only diathifora relocatees..still standing
Post by: RV Pundit on August 14, 2024, 01:26:06 PM
My advice - have passive income hapa kwanza - build yourself an apartment(s)
or buy a few houses - until you can comfortably make say 3,000usd passively.
Dont hope to make money in kenya - it very tough to make money here.
So only come to kenya if you're coming to retire.
Title: Re: Oldie and 5thgl are the only diathifora relocatees..still standing
Post by: sema on August 14, 2024, 05:41:56 PM
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invest squaaa

Invest squaaa...in a banana republic? Hapana.

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Dont hope to make money in kenya - it very tough to make money here.

This is a good point made here.  I have a couple of friends that moved back and ended up doing very poorly financially. Have returned to the US to visit a few times and could have stayed and just re-started their lives again in America, but they kept going back to kenya and things never got better for them financially. Why are some kenyans so hopeful about their country yet they know the truth?
Title: Re: Oldie and 5thgl are the only diathifora relocatees..still standing
Post by: sema on August 14, 2024, 05:43:56 PM
This guy wuod odidi has a phd and said he still works virtually for some company in the US and supplements his income with agribusiness.  I also believe that he was able to secure his US passport so if things go wrong he can leave.
Title: Re: Oldie and 5thgl are the only diathifora relocatees..still standing
Post by: KenyanPlato on August 14, 2024, 09:31:53 PM
My advice - have passive income hapa kwanza - build yourself an apartment(s)
or buy a few houses - until you can comfortably make say 3,000usd passively.
Dont hope to make money in kenya - it very tough to make money here.
So only come to kenya if you're coming to retire.

I will be at $7k in 5 years but still that is not what I am looking for
Title: Re: Oldie and 5thgl are the only diathifora relocatees..still standing
Post by: . on August 15, 2024, 08:54:43 AM
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invest squaaa

Invest squaaa...in a banana republic? Hapana.

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Dont hope to make money in kenya - it very tough to make money here.

This is a good point made here.  I have a couple of friends that moved back and ended up doing very poorly financially. Have returned to the US to visit a few times and could have stayed and just re-started their lives again in America, but they kept going back to kenya and things never got better for them financially. Why are some kenyans so hopeful about their country yet they know the truth?

Please remember that not everyone outside your social circle doesn't know how to invest not just in Kwiinya but worldwide  :D
Title: Re: Oldie and 5thgl are the only diathifora relocatees..still standing
Post by: . on August 15, 2024, 09:30:30 AM
Thank you for your detailed reply. I stayed for 90 days last year. I was busy paying kitu kidogo after kidogo. As I grow old and having raised to kids in yues..it becomes clear that I will have to love Kenya from a distance. I may just make it a place to come for prolonged respite and then come back here to take care of my grandkids and deal with Akina shanikwas and spanyos..Anyway I am glad you shifted and adopted even  changed your views on having kiddos. I may come there in 2032 and run for a political seat like Mad scientist. Mwaniki died while laying ground work for githunguri seat. My friend stocko didn't even get to see her son after 49 years in Canada as an illegal immigrant. Africans have been thru hell. Stocko exchange was a genius. She had skipped 3 grades in primary and graduated from Uon as one of the youngest graduates. She left my village to go study social science in Canada and she never left Canada. Anyway who knows what the future holds. I try my best to stay healthy and active hoping in can live to my 80s. So I have 35 years to figure out the remaining third of my life
I hear you bro. I miss Stocko. Her sense of humor was unmatched. On the RCB submarine days didn't she start out as Nyumba? RIP to her, man.

Life is so short I don't think most understand how short.

If people were told they had 1 year to live would they spend it doing the things they may be doing now? Issabigquestion because kesho is never promised. I remember how I liked walking the always entertaining Venice Beach boardwalk walkuu with the wifey on Summer evenings, ocean smells, bustle of activities from buskers, skateboarders, rollerbladers and all. It amazes me now that all that was over 15 years ago!
Time is a beast, man. It goes like the wind.

This is one of the reasons I relocated. Some very close relas died and I regretted bitterly that I had spent so may years in the Yues doing and chasing things that ultimately do not matter.

Look at our friend Double O. Tichitals kali kali daily that must have taken hours to write, fighting for social justice, democrazy, human rights blah blah blah. Now has been six feet deep for many years and the world is even worse than he left it.  Was it worth it being finywad in Nyati in the 80s then turning into an atheist fuzzy-thinking leftist for the rest of his life. Meanwhile many of his classmates who were smart enough to know that discretion is the better part of valour enjoyed life nywee without al those msukosukos and are still standing doing the same. That's the true measure of intelligence - it's actionable and useful. Not long rambling sheaves of essays of zero consequence to the cosmos. He couldn't even win a ward-chairman seat after he returned to Kwiinya. Isapite. At least his comrade Migush loudly made a small impact.

Kwiinya has really helped me slow dow n and smell life's roses. It's helped me spend valuable time with close family  that I  never would have been able to back in Hamirikwa.

It has also calmed me down from the "hot blood" Lokichokioman who was ready to cyber-slap upside the head any opponent online, Njamlik especially (is he still alive? If yes, I wonder where he is), to a more calm.and reflective version of myself.

Kwiinya has also taught me that there's waaay more to life than money. Money helps but it never makes one happy. Once you move beyond money your sense of happiness, peace and joy in life comes easy. Or at least it did for me.

On another note Kwiinya indeed remains a strange place.

Harlotry is everywhere but hapa it's on a different scale. Prostitution is basically the norm especially now in the swipe left culture. Even in depraved Yues I never saw such blatant harlotry. Girls are cheap and in plenty. Beautiful girls that make the prettiest of the Bonqueshas and Lanquerias look like a bad dishrag. The girls everywhere, even on the streets of Nairobi in broad daylight are always in skin tight mtumba outfits that were discarded to Goodwill from all the stripclubs in the West. Me thinks a general societal decline in morals is the cause even more than poverty as the main cause. Money-worship too. You've seen those Airbnb killings. Wasichanas will do anything to have money. Isapite

 Bottom line, the beauty about life is that we are victims of our own tastes and choices. For some, Yues is paradiso, for others it is shallow and passe for them. Kila nyani na starehe zage. It's pointless to try to convince someone that where I am is better than where they are and vice versa.

As Mike Sonko once said while he was guv; someone.might be at JKIA with stars in their eyes heading abroad while at the exact same time, someone else has just landed after 30 years abroad and is the happiest person on earth to be home

Mimi I thank God for the experiences I've enjoyed in this short life. If I was to write the script of my life before I experienced it, I wouldn't change a single thing. I've enjoyed every single phase of my life beyond belief and pray iendelee until God calls me home.

Ni hayo tu.



Title: Re: Oldie and 5thgl are the only diathifora relocatees..still standing
Post by: KenyanPlato on August 15, 2024, 12:50:33 PM
Torture messed up Double OO mental health. He was trying so much to cope. Those digital essays were a piece of art. He would start with Lula DaSilva of Brazil and end up with Dead Kimathi wa Ciuri. Then there was Ngugi wa Thiongo poetry..dagitari Matemo. Then Kirgit mwenye the kikuyu guy from Boston area..My friend Late Wa Wambui..Njamlik was a serious troll.he tried to troll me but I harrased him till he left online community for good..there wad Dengu from Githunguri but grew up in Nairobi..then there was Mwari wa Mugo married to Lunje poet..Papaf the professor wa agriculture na hydrologist.hydrologic..

Like you said life in Hamelika is fast paced mpaka unasahau watu wenu..in the last 2 years I had been kenya every year my dad was ailing and passed away last year. I was able to connect with cousins and other relatives I have not seen for over 3 decades. I go so emotional just being around my relatives. At the end of the day family is what matters.

About prostitution in a society with 70% youth unemployment young women will look for men with means to leeches off. I usually Block about 10 girls weekly in my Facebook page. All in my messenger half naked saying hi ..Ile gonorrhea iko kenya may kill a horse. I cannot trust a kenyan woman. I like dealing with African Americans at least the professional ones are just looking for good sex and company. They have their own everything
Title: Re: Oldie and 5thgl are the only diathifora relocatees..still standing
Post by: RV Pundit on August 15, 2024, 01:41:52 PM
Pole to learn of your dad death.
Torture messed up Double OO mental health. He was trying so much to cope. Those digital essays were a piece of art. He would start with Lula DaSilva of Brazil and end up with Dead Kimathi wa Ciuri. Then there was Ngugi wa Thiongo poetry..dagitari Matemo. Then Kirgit mwenye the kikuyu guy from Boston area..My friend Late Wa Wambui..Njamlik was a serious troll.he tried to troll me but I harrased him till he left online community for good..there wad Dengu from Githunguri but grew up in Nairobi..then there was Mwari wa Mugo married to Lunje poet..Papaf the professor wa agriculture na hydrologist.hydrologic..

Like you said life in Hamelika is fast paced mpaka unasahau watu wenu..in the last 2 years I had been kenya every year my dad was ailing and passed away last year. I was able to connect with cousins and other relatives I have not seen for over 3 decades. I go so emotional just being around my relatives. At the end of the day family is what matters.

About prostitution in a society with 70% youth unemployment young women will look for men with means to leeches off. I usually Block about 10 girls weekly in my Facebook page. All in my messenger half naked saying hi ..Ile gonorrhea iko kenya may kill a horse. I cannot trust a kenyan woman. I like dealing with African Americans at least the professional ones are just looking for good sex and company. They have their own everything
Title: Re: Oldie and 5thgl are the only diathifora relocatees..still standing
Post by: gout on August 15, 2024, 02:26:22 PM
This boils down to the philosophical question of what is the purpose of life?  Aren't we all choosing what to finya us? You build the rentals, you have to be woken up by caretakers and tenants after fighting fundis.

Finding people you can spend quality time with, in distorted capitalistic societies who add value or you share a vision is nearly impossible. This is the greatest struggle especially once old age and disease vulnerability knocks, you have to have people who can put in some commitment selflessly ju hata ukiwa na pesa you will end like Kirima or Ritho. Heck Njiru claims even senile Jomo and Moi were neglected and misused.

So when you can effortlessly punch the essays, it could be equally fulfilling like chasing the dollar, women, alcohol, family slavery.

Issue is in all addictions, we never notice when it becomes outright self destruction.


Look at our friend Double O. Tichitals kali kali daily that must have taken hours to write, fighting for social justice, democrazy, human rights blah blah blah. Now has been six feet deep for many years and the world is even worse than he left it.  Was it worth it being finywad in Nyati in the 80s then turning into an atheist fuzzy-thinking leftist for the rest of his life. Meanwhile many of his classmates who were smart enough to know that discretion is the better part of valour enjoyed life nywee without al those msukosukos and are still standing doing the same. That's the true measure of intelligence - it's actionable and useful. Not long rambling sheaves of essays of zero consequence to the cosmos. He couldn't even win a ward-chairman seat after he returned to Kwiinya. Isapite. At least his comrade Migush loudly made a small impact.

Title: Re: Oldie and 5thgl are the only diathifora relocatees..still standing
Post by: KenyanPlato on August 15, 2024, 04:23:40 PM
Pole to learn of your dad death.
Torture messed up Double OO mental health. He was trying so much to cope. Those digital essays were a piece of art. He would start with Lula DaSilva of Brazil and end up with Dead Kimathi wa Ciuri. Then there was Ngugi wa Thiongo poetry..dagitari Matemo. Then Kirgit mwenye the kikuyu guy from Boston area..My friend Late Wa Wambui..Njamlik was a serious troll.he tried to troll me but I harrased him till he left online community for good..there wad Dengu from Githunguri but grew up in Nairobi..then there was Mwari wa Mugo married to Lunje poet..Papaf the professor wa agriculture na hydrologist.hydrologic..

Like you said life in Hamelika is fast paced mpaka unasahau watu wenu..in the last 2 years I had been kenya every year my dad was ailing and passed away last year. I was able to connect with cousins and other relatives I have not seen for over 3 decades. I go so emotional just being around my relatives. At the end of the day family is what matters.

About prostitution in a society with 70% youth unemployment young women will look for men with means to leeches off. I usually Block about 10 girls weekly in my Facebook page. All in my messenger half naked saying hi ..Ile gonorrhea iko kenya may kill a horse. I cannot trust a kenyan woman. I like dealing with African Americans at least the professional ones are just looking for good sex and company. They have their own everything

Thanks. He lived a full life. Died at 85 years. My dad was a great productive man. If we can clone him Kenya would be fully developed by 2030
Title: Re: Oldie and 5thgl are the only diathifora relocatees..still standing
Post by: RV Pundit on August 15, 2024, 10:14:58 PM
Excellent Kenya plato. You're fortunate to have such a great man in your life n I know you will cherish his memories
Title: Re: Oldie and 5thgl are the only diathifora relocatees..still standing
Post by: Fairandbalanced on August 16, 2024, 01:03:45 AM
Kenya ni moto unaotea mbali at least for now, nothing seem to be working and everyone is crying. It’s hard after living in the USA to be surrounded by such misery, corruption and chaos. I have always planned my retirement to be between Kenya and USA, three months in Kenya, which can get monotonous and rest of the time in USA and traveling. If you are young, do not complain about chasing money in the USA , that’s how the world works and the USA is the best and the easiest place for a black man to make some money.
Title: Re: Oldie and 5thgl are the only diathifora relocatees..still standing
Post by: . on August 16, 2024, 05:47:34 AM
Torture messed up Double OO mental health. He was trying so much to cope. Those digital essays were a piece of art. He would start with Lula DaSilva of Brazil and end up with Dead Kimathi wa Ciuri. Then there was Ngugi wa Thiongo poetry..dagitari Matemo. Then Kirgit mwenye the kikuyu guy from Boston area..My friend Late Wa Wambui..Njamlik was a serious troll.he tried to troll me but I harrased him till he left online community for good..there wad Dengu from Githunguri but grew up in Nairobi..then there was Mwari wa Mugo married to Lunje poet..Papaf the professor wa agriculture na hydrologist.hydrologic..

Like you said life in Hamelika is fast paced mpaka unasahau watu wenu..in the last 2 years I had been kenya every year my dad was ailing and passed away last year. I was able to connect with cousins and other relatives I have not seen for over 3 decades. I go so emotional just being around my relatives. At the end of the day family is what matters.

About prostitution in a society with 70% youth unemployment young women will look for men with means to leeches off. I usually Block about 10 girls weekly in my Facebook page. All in my messenger half naked saying hi ..Ile gonorrhea iko kenya may kill a horse. I cannot trust a kenyan woman. I like dealing with African Americans at least the professional ones are just looking for good sex and company. They have their own everything

Those long, winding Double O tichitals were epic :roll:

Don't forget how he would name drop the so-called liberation heros. The Kamoji Wachiras.. the Makhan Singhs.... the Micere Mugos..  the Edward Oyugis ... the Willy Mutungas...the...

That was years before Mutunga became CJ. After the gay Mutunga's ascension, he did absolutely zero for Kwiinya except tell us Kwiinya is a bandit economy - which it is.  That's how these Nyati house graduate activists roll. Big talk, near-zero impact. Perhaps you are right. They were so traumatized in those jails and torture chambers that they came out with a warped sense of reality that they could actually change a world in which there is nothing new under the sun - it never changes meaningfully for long.

Double O was very interesting when we "mealy-mouthed urchins" as he called us, clipped at his heels for the fun of it.
He had an elephantine temper too. Sasa sisi ni wazee wa kijiji soon to have grandkids, while dubula dubula is long gone.

Time is something else.

Pole on the loss of your dad. I have lost many very close relas too. I couldn't have put it better; at the end of the day family is what matters.

Speaking of strange Kwiinya, I was reading the hard copy of the Daily Nation jana. On the cover was a jamaa with a huge beaming smile. The chap in the payroll department of Equity bank is accused of squirreling 1.5 billion kshs squirreluuu in 47 transactions to different newly opened mysterious company accounts in different Kwiinyan banks.

The guy went on leave for a few days and his credentials were used to access the payroll accounts to do the transactions transuu. Hooded CID fellows arrested him and his dad. Strangely, there's no mention of who the people are that withdrew those huge sums from those various company accounts.

I bet you this was a brilliantly executed heist by all parties. The guy got his cut, the corresponding banks got their cut, the CID guys got their cut, and best of all, Ikwiti gets its money refunded via fraud insurance. The public watches sijui CID with AK-47s pretending to investigate, thinking something meaningful is happening to recover what's lost.

As soon as the focus moves on to the next big scandal, after a few weeks, the story is quickly forgotten and all the parties participant in the heist are busy buying tinted (always) 2024 Landcruisers while farting big in the beautiful huge bathrooms of their triple storey mega-mansions complete with sojas at the gate and electric wire fencing that could roast even an intruding leopard into dust in two seconds.

On the page right next to it, the paper reported that KSH 69 billion was lost to a palm oil import tax evasion scheme. That's Kwiinya for you.

It's a country full of brilliant people. At stealing. If they used all these smarts to actually make an honest living and build industries through sweat, imagine what a paradise we would be.

Fairandbalanced you're wrong. The easiest place for a black man to make money is Kwiinya. I was shocked the other day to see one of my high school comrades being vetted for a huge position in gava. Number one, he featured nowhere academically back then. Number two, his CV did not add up. No known currently running businesses, a long string of past failed tiny ventures, hata in employeeship - the easiest of all - he didn't hack it. His net-worth admitted during the vetting? Almost a B after working for a parastatal for a few months. That's Kwiinya for you.

Kwiinya is the only place where an illiterate like Livondo or one like Sonko can become a billionaire in a week, while heavily degreed, tichital-spewing academics die with zero. Isapite. By the way Livondo was also in that same paper over some multi-billion Zambian military scam.

Jipange folks. Make your money honestly while young, then come enjoy it with your family in Kwiinya if your dream is to retire here. As Moi used to say; "watu wanapiga kelele wakilalamiga oo oo lagini masiku zinagwenda!" He too is also six feet under. Life is very short, buddies.

Ni hayo tu.
Title: Re: Oldie and 5thgl are the only diathifora relocatees..still standing
Post by: . on August 16, 2024, 06:23:36 AM
This boils down to the philosophical question of what is the purpose of life?  Aren't we all choosing what to finya us? You build the rentals, you have to be woken up by caretakers and tenants after fighting fundis.

Finding people you can spend quality time with, in distorted capitalistic societies who add value or you share a vision is nearly impossible. This is the greatest struggle especially once old age and disease vulnerability knocks, you have to have people who can put in some commitment selflessly ju hata ukiwa na pesa you will end like Kirima or Ritho. Heck Njiru claims even senile Jomo and Moi were neglected and misused.

So when you can effortlessly punch the essays, it could be equally fulfilling like chasing the dollar, women, alcohol, family slavery.

Issue is in all addictions, we never notice when it becomes outright self destruction.


Look at our friend Double O. Tichitals kali kali daily that must have taken hours to write, fighting for social justice, democrazy, human rights blah blah blah. Now has been six feet deep for many years and the world is even worse than he left it.  Was it worth it being finywad in Nyati in the 80s then turning into an atheist fuzzy-thinking leftist for the rest of his life. Meanwhile many of his classmates who were smart enough to know that discretion is the better part of valour enjoyed life nywee without al those msukosukos and are still standing doing the same. That's the true measure of intelligence - it's actionable and useful. Not long rambling sheaves of essays of zero consequence to the cosmos. He couldn't even win a ward-chairman seat after he returned to Kwiinya. Isapite. At least his comrade Migush loudly made a small impact.


I don't think dubula was fulfilled doing that. In fact he became even more frustrated when nothing was changing in Kwiinya despite the revolutionary essays to the tiny set of online comrades. Nobody outside the diaspora blogsphere even remembered who he was after decades in exile. But as I said; kila nyani na starehe zake, we all live with the life choices we make 
Title: Re: Oldie and 5thgl are the only diathifora relocatees..still standing
Post by: gout on August 17, 2024, 01:31:54 AM
How do landlords get fulfilled locking tenants' doors with women and kids wailing? Filling auction pages on gazeti? Ufool is frustrated breaks have been put on his stealing? Trump wailing? Are diathifola Kwinyans more fulfilled than Trump??

OO spirits must be beating drums with Gen Zii awakening. Issa process.

The eternal struggle is living with choices others make. I elect globalist wannabe, he fucks hasoras and goes for baba who wanted him hanged, I have to weka kwa roho and wait for him with my vote.

This boils down to the philosophical question of what is the purpose of life?  Aren't we all choosing what to finya us? You build the rentals, you have to be woken up by caretakers and tenants after fighting fundis.

Finding people you can spend quality time with, in distorted capitalistic societies who add value or you share a vision is nearly impossible. This is the greatest struggle especially once old age and disease vulnerability knocks, you have to have people who can put in some commitment selflessly ju hata ukiwa na pesa you will end like Kirima or Ritho. Heck Njiru claims even senile Jomo and Moi were neglected and misused.

So when you can effortlessly punch the essays, it could be equally fulfilling like chasing the dollar, women, alcohol, family slavery.

Issue is in all addictions, we never notice when it becomes outright self destruction.
OO spirit is proud of Gen Zii protests.


Look at our friend Double O. Tichitals kali kali daily that must have taken hours to write, fighting for social justice, democrazy, human rights blah blah blah. Now has been six feet deep for many years and the world is even worse than he left it.  Was it worth it being finywad in Nyati in the 80s then turning into an atheist fuzzy-thinking leftist for the rest of his life. Meanwhile many of his classmates who were smart enough to know that discretion is the better part of valour enjoyed life nywee without al those msukosukos and are still standing doing the same. That's the true measure of intelligence - it's actionable and useful. Not long rambling sheaves of essays of zero consequence to the cosmos. He couldn't even win a ward-chairman seat after he returned to Kwiinya. Isapite. At least his comrade Migush loudly made a small impact.


I don't think dubula was fulfilled doing that. In fact he became even more frustrated when nothing was changing in Kwiinya despite the revolutionary essays to the tiny set of online comrades. Nobody outside the diaspora blogsphere even remembered who he was after decades in exile. But as I said; kila nyani na starehe zake, we all live with the life choices we make 
Title: Re: Oldie and 5thgl are the only diathifora relocatees..still standing
Post by: . on August 17, 2024, 11:15:35 AM
How do landlords get fulfilled locking tenants' doors with women and kids wailing? Filling auction pages on gazeti? Ufool is frustrated breaks have been put on his stealing? Trump wailing? Are diathifola Kwinyans more fulfilled than Trump??

OO spirits must be beating drums with Gen Zii awakening. Issa process.

The eternal struggle is living with choices others make. I elect globalist wannabe, he fucks hasoras and goes for baba who wanted him hanged, I have to weka kwa roho and wait for him with my vote.

Keep hope alive blathee :roll:
The more you keep hoping things will change the worse they will get.
The eternal struggle has been there since the apple in Eden. What has changed?

Zero

It never will. Focus on taking care of yourself and your family otherwise you will keep gnashing teeth over worthless siasa for another few decades then kick the bucket with regrets minki minki.

Which country on earth has ever changed fundamentally and SUSTAINABLY for the better since God created the earth?

Ni hayo tu
Title: Re: Oldie and 5thgl are the only diathifora relocatees..still standing
Post by: KenyanPlato on August 17, 2024, 11:58:42 AM
This Gout is another Double oo character. He thinks he can change people. You can't change jack shit. Utakufa hapa ba hasira.that why kenyans end up getting killed year in year out by Political warlords like ruto, uhuru or raila. You need to outgrow siasa. Enjoy your life and let those who are suffering to suffer until they decide to fight to end their own suffering
Title: Re: Oldie and 5thgl are the only diathifora relocatees..still standing
Post by: lelewela on August 17, 2024, 12:37:18 PM
Kweli kabisa, hapo umenena kama wazee 100. Lets enjoy life, I will retire  from all suffering related to hasira ya siasa  :D

My late father never voted, and he started his live in Nyanyuki as blacksmith making swords and spears for the morans, his mantra was focus on you life forget about all the bullshit people are discussing. And he died a peaceful man with no deni and no enemies , his funeral was full of different tribes of Kenya.
Lakini hi siasa will destroy us.

This Gout is another Double oo character. He thinks he can change people. You can't change jack shit. Utakufa hapa ba hasira.that why kenyans end up getting killed year in year out by Political warlords like ruto, uhuru or raila. You need to outgrow siasa. Enjoy your life and let those who are suffering to suffer until they decide to fight to end their own suffering
Title: Re: Oldie and 5thgl are the only diathifora relocatees..still standing
Post by: KenyanPlato on August 17, 2024, 12:49:15 PM
Kweli kabisa, hapo umenena kama wazee 100. Lets enjoy life, I will retire  from all suffering related to hasira ya siasa  :D

My late father never voted, and he started his live in Nyanyuki as blacksmith making swords and spears for the morans, his mantra was focus on you life forget about all the bullshit people are discussing. And he died a peaceful man with no deni and no enemies , his funeral was full of different tribes of Kenya.
Lakini hi siasa will destroy us.

This Gout is another Double oo character. He thinks he can change people. You can't change jack shit. Utakufa hapa ba hasira.that why kenyans end up getting killed year in year out by Political warlords like ruto, uhuru or raila. You need to outgrow siasa. Enjoy your life and let those who are suffering to suffer until they decide to fight to end their own suffering
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It has taken me 50 years to mellow and stop hii hasira ya siasa. Now is time for me to enjoy life. Good sex, a cold beer once a month and just live life. Your dad was a wise man. Dean Kimathi and other revolutionaries left their families in poverty
Title: Re: Oldie and 5thgl are the only diathifora relocatees..still standing
Post by: . on August 19, 2024, 08:09:20 PM
Kweli kabisa, hapo umenena kama wazee 100. Lets enjoy life, I will retire  from all suffering related to hasira ya siasa  :D

My late father never voted, and he started his live in Nyanyuki as blacksmith making swords and spears for the morans, his mantra was focus on you life forget about all the bullshit people are discussing. And he died a peaceful man with no deni and no enemies , his funeral was full of different tribes of Kenya.
Lakini hi siasa will destroy us.


Looks like your late father was in the same Whatsapp group as my grandfather and gandmum. Easy life kule Oldonyo Sabuk types of mashinanis. Fresh air, fresh pesticide-free food, no radios and TVs so no "hasira za siasa" as you guys call it :roll:. No sijui fear of maandamanos shutting down their biz or the shilling crashing because the national debt had sijui done what..No fear of barbarians at the gate coming for "our presidency" or "my political seat." No stress of blood-spattered election cycles. That was living!

This is why they lived to be 100+ in many cases. It has amazed me since the RCB days how some folks can spend almost every waking hour of their lives frying their brains over siasa. Some are even ready to KILL over it :o. Mimi find me at Manda Island sipping madafu juice with my oysters sipluuuuuuuu watching the sun float end to end across the horizon. Maisha ni kujienjoy shwiiiing shwaang!

Stress brings on coronary artery disease and swift early death.

Look at all those politicians of the 80s, 90s and 00's that naive Kwiinyans used to kill each other for. The Shariff Nassirs (wapende wasipende), the Kamothos, the Ntimamas, the Saitotis, the Kuria Kanyingis,  the Matibas, the Odongo Omamos, the Rubias, the Nyachaes, ... we can literally go on and on and on.

They're all gone and most before 75 years at that! Stress za hasira za siasa tupu. The very few exceptions like Man Toro and his buddy Njonjo only lived past 90 because a) they were very careful about diet and b) they worked out daily/stayed fit. Njonjo would do 7 swimming pool laps a day at 98! But even they are gone! Siasa ni hasara tupu. Just embittered, early dying politicos and their frustrated, crestfallen followers gnashing teeth on and on, craving the next election cycle with bulging cheeks and big eyes, thinking Canaan will magically appear at that point, and all their earthly problems will vanish. It never happens, but that does not stop them from hoping. Isapite.

Life is fupi sana. Don't waste it like Dubula dubula did. Ending up a very frustrated man with nothing to show for his political life of 60 years, half of it spent composing sheaves of political essays to no one in particular. Yet did not even bring an iota of meaningful political change of any sort to anyone, least of all himself. Isatragedy.

British politician Enoch Powell once said that "all political lives end in failure." Ni ukweli mtupu.

Ni hayo tu.
Title: Re: Oldie and 5thgl are the only diathifora relocatees..still standing
Post by: . on August 21, 2024, 05:16:07 AM

"THE ORDINARY PEOPLE ARE WORSE OFF!" - Martin Shikuku

Remember this chap? He spent his whole life (80 years) "fighting for change"
An illusive thing (change) that never happened.

Siasi ni hasala tupu. Take care of yourself an your families and forget the rest, buddies.

Ni hayo tu.
Title: Re: Oldie and 5thgl are the only diathifora relocatees..still standing
Post by: gout on August 22, 2024, 01:32:42 PM
Things will always keep changing.

A 100 years ago the Wild Wild West was just as savage as it gets, now we all want to run there coz a few people idealized and worked for it. Siasa has made it what it is and the system keeps getting tested and has to be maintained through eternal vigilance.

I find the nonsense ati sijui work hard wachana na siasa very very childish, worse for economic immigrants enjoying matunda ya siasa mzuri. There is a reason only those without any choice head to Saudi Arabia. Nearly everyone wants to move to Yues and Yurop. Recent UK riots are just a sign of what is to come for immigrants who do not want to engage in siasa in their homeland.

The nonsense that we are worse off is hogwash. All indicators are on the up. We have become more aspirational thus the frustrations. We are talking of better roads, not cholera or smallpox. University funding not whether girls should go to school.

Progress. Slowly disappointing. Yes.

Title: Re: Oldie and 5thgl are the only diathifora relocatees..still standing
Post by: . on August 22, 2024, 02:13:39 PM
Things will always keep changing.

A 100 years ago the Wild Wild West was just as savage as it gets, now we all want to run there coz a few people idealized and worked for it. Siasa has made it what it is and the system keeps getting tested and has to be maintained through eternal vigilance.

I find the nonsense ati sijui work hard wachana na siasa very very childish, worse for economic immigrants enjoying matunda ya siasa mzuri. There is a reason only those without any choice head to Saudi Arabia. Nearly everyone wants to move to Yues and Yurop. Recent UK riots are just a sign of what is to come for immigrants who do not want to engage in siasa in their homeland.

The nonsense that we are worse off is hogwash. All indicators are on the up. We have become more aspirational thus the frustrations. We are talking of better roads, not cholera or smallpox. University funding not whether girls should go to school.

Progress. Slowly disappointing. Yes.

Things will indeed keep changing. For the worse.

What planet are you living on, buddy :D? Which progress? Please enumerate it hapa clearly.

https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/bd/economy/kenya-8th-on-extreme-poverty-list-2208558
Kenya 8th in the world in extreme poverty. In 1963 we were at par with Singapore and Malaysia

Did you miss the entire Goon-Z protests a few weeks ago? Were they protesting at how wonderfully Kenya has progressed?

Has corruption gotten better since the 1970s or worse?

Has Nairobi's aging water and sewer infra got better or worse since the 1970s?

How much has your daily online kelele :roll: changed Kenya compared to we the poltically-non-obsessed?
Have you ever even stood for cattle-dip chairman in your village :D?
If no, tell us exactly what CONCRETE things you have done for Kwiinya's progress in non-vague terms?

Online keystrokes don't count!

Wueeh, you are "mature" kweli kweli. Mature in your delusions.

Ni hayo tu.

Title: Re: Oldie and 5thgl are the only diathifora relocatees..still standing
Post by: gout on August 22, 2024, 03:23:45 PM
The GEN Zs are the best indicator of progress as described by Ichungwa. KFC-eating, Uber-riding' privileged city dwellers. Living the dream!

Online kelele birthed Gen Z street protests. Reset globalist wannabe to default settings. Tell Hasina despot about online kelele being meaningless.

The Gen Z protest are a personal challenge to older generations who have stagnated economically and rooted in childish political persuasions. At home. Workplace. They have shown the older stagnated folks the middle finger and all are unsettled asking what next while they are stuck in shitty relationships, jobs for decades. It is a personal attack.

Things will always keep changing.

A 100 years ago the Wild Wild West was just as savage as it gets, now we all want to run there coz a few people idealized and worked for it. Siasa has made it what it is and the system keeps getting tested and has to be maintained through eternal vigilance.

I find the nonsense ati sijui work hard wachana na siasa very very childish, worse for economic immigrants enjoying matunda ya siasa mzuri. There is a reason only those without any choice head to Saudi Arabia. Nearly everyone wants to move to Yues and Yurop. Recent UK riots are just a sign of what is to come for immigrants who do not want to engage in siasa in their homeland.

The nonsense that we are worse off is hogwash. All indicators are on the up. We have become more aspirational thus the frustrations. We are talking of better roads, not cholera or smallpox. University funding not whether girls should go to school.

Progress. Slowly disappointing. Yes.

Things will indeed keep changing. For the worse.

What planet are you living on, buddy :D? Which progress? Please enumerate it hapa clearly.

https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/bd/economy/kenya-8th-on-extreme-poverty-list-2208558
Kenya 8th in the world in extreme poverty. In 1963 we were at par with Singapore and Malaysia

Did you miss the entire Goon-Z protests a few weeks ago? Were they protesting at how wonderfully Kenya has progressed?

Has corruption gotten better since the 1970s or worse?

Has Nairobi's aging water and sewer infra got better or worse since the 1970s?

How much has your daily online kelele :roll: changed Kenya compared to we the poltically-non-obsessed?
Have you ever even stood for cattle-dip chairman in your village :D?
If no, tell us exactly what CONCRETE things you have done for Kwiinya's progress in non-vague terms?

Online keystrokes don't count!

Wueeh, you are "mature" kweli kweli. Mature in your delusions.

Ni hayo tu.


Title: Re: Oldie and 5thgl are the only diathifora relocatees..still standing
Post by: . on August 22, 2024, 06:08:51 PM
The GEN Zs are the best indicator of progress as described by Ichungwa. KFC-eating, Uber-riding' privileged city dwellers. Living the dream!

Online kelele birthed Gen Z street protests. Reset globalist wannabe to default settings. Tell Hasina despot about online kelele being meaningless.

The Gen Z protest are a personal challenge to older generations who have stagnated economically and rooted in childish political persuasions. At home. Workplace. They have shown the older stagnated folks the middle finger and all are unsettled asking what next while they are stuck in shitty relationships, jobs for decades. It is a personal attack.


You clearly don't live in Kwiinya :roll:

You mean those cheap-first-world-discarded-mtumba-wearing, tyre-burning, wine-shop-looting, unemployed tik-toker tatterdemalions stoning businesses in Mlolongo, Syokimau, razing buildings on Mfangano St and robbing motorists in Kangemi? Do Kangemi car robbers and stone throwers know what Uber is? You gots to be kidding me!

When was the last time you visited Kwiinya? 20 years ago :roll:? Isapite.

And you didn't answer the question. Why were Goon-z's not cheering in support of the marvelous progress you claim Kwiinya has made over the past decades :D? With all the stunning progress we've made, shouldn't they have been cheering that Kwiinya has become a globe-leading paradise unmatched?

Ni hayo tu
Title: Re: Oldie and 5thgl are the only diathifora relocatees..still standing
Post by: gout on November 13, 2024, 06:55:26 PM
Catching up on these threads with Trump 2.0 in mind and the anxiety am seeing around.
Title: Re: Oldie and 5thgl are the only diathifora relocatees..still standing
Post by: KenyanPlato on November 14, 2024, 11:43:40 PM
Europeans are returning to their default state of fighting a d killing each other

Oldie is right. Nothing changes in a fundamental way. Evil just changes locality or mode then reverts to its natural state