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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: Githunguri on April 04, 2022, 07:57:03 AM

Title: April 3,2022:Uhuru warns ruto.
Post by: Githunguri on April 04, 2022, 07:57:03 AM
1) Abusing me at my door step in Ichaweri won't make you president.

2) If anything happened to Raila on Friday,Kenya would be on fire.

Title: Re: April 3,2022:Uhuru warns ruto.
Post by: Dear Mami on April 04, 2022, 09:16:04 AM
I've seen UDA people insulting him over this and while I understand the double-standard complaint (why didn't you talk when Ruto car was stoned?) I really don't understand the idea that he was threatening fire if Raila gets hurt. That's a spin of monumental proportions. He was just asking, "You guys, think about it: What if the Dude had actually got hurt? Isn't that how skirmishes start?" This is very obvious to me, so I think those guys spinning it into threats are mean-spirited.
Title: Re: April 3,2022:Uhuru warns ruto.
Post by: RV Pundit on April 04, 2022, 09:24:36 AM
Where was he when some of us was saying same thing about Kondele. This is not isolated incident. Uhuru has cheered violence perpetrated by ODM. He did it in Kibera by-elections. He has also basically told everyone who cared to listen that handshake was as reward of Raila violence - to stop him from burning kiosks and such. The subliminal message - if you cause enough chaos including swearing yourself - you'll get rewarded

The sickening double standards, the politicization of key institutions that ought to fight violence, and erosion of public confidence on police/prov admin/dci is leading us to 2007 PEV. The worst is that supreme court just delivered half-arsed BBI ruling that leaves many doubting it's ability to mediate close elections in four months time.

People will eventually say enough is enough - and deal with Uhuru - and his biased security forces. If the security force kill civilians allied to UDA - UDA civilians will kill Azimio civilians. That is taking us back to 2007 pogrom and this time we might not be very luckly - we might lose the country to civil war like Ethiopia, and many African countries.

I've seen UDA people insulting him over this and while I understand the double-standard complaint (why didn't you talk when Ruto car was stoned?) I really don't understand the idea that he was threatening fire if Raila gets hurt. That's a spin of monumental proportions. He was just asking, "You guys, think about it: What if the Dude had actually got hurt? Isn't that how skirmishes start?" This is very obvious to me, so I think those guys spinning it into threats are mean-spirited.
Title: Re: April 3,2022:Uhuru warns ruto.
Post by: Kadudu on April 04, 2022, 09:54:29 AM
Does UDA have the monopoly of violence?

Where was he when some of us was saying same thing about Kondele. This is not isolated incident. Uhuru has cheered violence perpetrated by ODM. He did it in Kibera by-elections. He has also basically told everyone who cared to listen that handshake was as reward of Raila violence - to stop him from burning kiosks and such. The subliminal message - if you cause enough chaos including swearing yourself - you'll get rewarded

The sickening double standards, the politicization of key institutions that ought to fight violence, and erosion of public confidence on police/prov admin/dci is leading us to 2007 PEV. The worst is that supreme court just delivered half-arsed BBI ruling that leaves many doubting it's ability to mediate close elections in four months time.

People will eventually say enough is enough - and deal with Uhuru - and his biased security forces. If the security force kill civilians allied to UDA - UDA civilians will kill Azimio civilians. That is taking us back to 2007 pogrom and this time we might not be very luckly - we might lose the country to civil war like Ethiopia, and many African countries.
Title: Re: April 3,2022:Uhuru warns ruto.
Post by: Dear Mami on April 04, 2022, 09:57:02 AM
It's true about the double standards, like I said, hapo nakubali. These double standards against the non-gok candidate have always been there. Only now the sides have switched. But it's wrong regardless of the target.

I think the ones saying he was threatening fire are being disingenuous. I saw that as more like a caution. The ones complaining about double standards are obviously correct, though 
Title: Re: April 3,2022:Uhuru warns ruto.
Post by: RV Pundit on April 04, 2022, 10:20:22 AM
Nope. That is where civil war comes in. Uhuru misuse the police to kill or harm UDA. UDA kill or harm Azimio. Azimio retailiate. Then security forces split into Azimio-UDA. Then you have a civil war. No winners. Just losers.
Does UDA have the monopoly of violence?
Title: Re: April 3,2022:Uhuru warns ruto.
Post by: RV Pundit on April 04, 2022, 10:22:35 AM
A whole head of state saying if Raila had been touched there would be fire - you find that just a mere caution. Please stop it. These are things that we can say - but Uhuru - is crossing the line.

A responsible PORK - should simply call for peaceful campaigns - and end there. There is no need for a rider that touching Raila would have resulted in fire (even if it would have). That is crazy - that is admission that gov has failed and intend to fail. That is incitement. That is telling us Raila is a small GOD?

It's true about the double standards, like I said, hapo nakubali. These double standards against the non-gok candidate have always been there. Only now the sides have switched. But it's wrong regardless of the target.

I think the ones saying he was threatening fire are being disingenuous. I saw that as more like a caution. The ones complaining about double standards are obviously correct, though 
Title: Re: April 3,2022:Uhuru warns ruto.
Post by: Githunguri on April 04, 2022, 11:12:06 AM
Nope. That is where civil war comes in. Uhuru misuse the police to kill or harm UDA. UDA kill or harm Azimio. Azimio retailiate. Then security forces split into Azimio-UDA. Then you have a civil war. No winners. Just losers.
Does UDA have the monopoly of violence?

Precisely,It's now back to Mungiki and Warrior settings,War cries
The main game is simple:

PROVOKE
PROPAGANDA
REVENGE
DISINTEGRATE
FALSE FLAGS

.Katiba itabadilishwa kwa lazima after elections like analysts are sayin

I just fear power...i fear it.
Title: Re: April 3,2022:Uhuru warns ruto.
Post by: Dear Mami on April 04, 2022, 11:12:38 AM
Pundit, this is where you lose all your objectivity. Regardless of whether it was wise or not, are you seriously telling me that when you listened to that speech, you understood Uhuru to be saying something like, "Wewe, touch Raila and see: I'll rain hellfire on you!" And not, "You guys might unwittingly unleash skirmishes." You genuinely believe he meant the first and not the latter from that speech?

Title: Re: April 3,2022:Uhuru warns ruto.
Post by: Githunguri on April 04, 2022, 11:14:14 AM
Pundit, this is where you lose all your objectivity. Regardless of whether it was wise or not, are you seriously telling me that when you listened to that speech, you understood Uhuru to be saying something like, "Wewe, touch Raila and see: I'll rain hellfire on you!" And not, "You guys might unwittingly unleash skirmishes." You genuinely believe he meant the first and not the latter from that speech?

Wacha ujinga
Title: Re: April 3,2022:Uhuru warns ruto.
Post by: Dear Mami on April 04, 2022, 11:16:10 AM
Pundit, this is where you lose all your objectivity. Regardless of whether it was wise or not, are you seriously telling me that when you listened to that speech, you understood Uhuru to be saying something like, "Wewe, touch Raila and see: I'll rain hellfire on you!" And not, "You guys might unwittingly unleash skirmishes." You genuinely believe he meant the first and not the latter from that speech?

Wacha ujinga

Njamba, ujinga is your preserve. Sikunyanganyi.  :D
Title: Re: April 3,2022:Uhuru warns ruto.
Post by: Githunguri on April 04, 2022, 11:18:51 AM
Pundit, this is where you lose all your objectivity. Regardless of whether it was wise or not, are you seriously telling me that when you listened to that speech, you understood Uhuru to be saying something like, "Wewe, touch Raila and see: I'll rain hellfire on you!" And not, "You guys might unwittingly unleash skirmishes." You genuinely believe he meant the first and not the latter from that speech?

Wacha ujinga

Njamba, ujinga is your preserve. Sikunyanganyi.  :D

Afadhali ujinga wangu kuliko hio masomo yako ambayo hayawezi kufumbua Rais anachosema.

Mafi ya kuku.

Am not Njamba,I am a shoe shiner in the statehouse of the republic of Kenya.
Title: Re: April 3,2022:Uhuru warns ruto.
Post by: Dear Mami on April 04, 2022, 11:25:03 AM

Mafi ya kuku.

Am not Njamba,I am a shoe shiner in the statehouse of the republic of Kenya.

Njamba, masomo or not, usitusi shoe-shiners by including a frothing lowlife like yourself among them. I'm sure they'd be offended by the association.

If you had a working mind you could shoot down my thoughts without being this chokora you are being here. Kumbaff.
Title: Re: April 3,2022:Uhuru warns ruto.
Post by: Dear Mami on April 04, 2022, 11:28:23 AM
And PS: I'm not saying there are no double standards. Of course there are! It's true Uhuru shut up when Ruto's car was stoned. What I'm not agreeing is that Uhuru stood up and threatened. You can say he was careless and unfair but what he said did not sound like what I'm reading on social media.

IN FACT, the real threat-sounding thing he said that people are surprisingly ignoring while focussing on this one is the one about voting "Don't insult me thinking it'll get you votes: Utashangaa." THAT sounded to me like a veiled threat much more than this thing about lighting fire by harming Raila.
Title: Re: April 3,2022:Uhuru warns ruto.
Post by: RV Pundit on April 04, 2022, 11:31:29 AM
If Raila had been touched, the country would have lit.
Now please use past, present, present continous, future tense
And simple logic
To understand that Uhuru is elevating Raila to some small GOD who shall not be touched - or they would have been or will be fire..
Same crap.
Uhuru has become no different from a Kondele youth.
Whole PORk should never say that.
Even if it's true indeed that his supporters will react violently.
But those are best left unsaid - for saying it LEGITIMIZE SUCH VIOLENT REACTIONS.
He is saying it's would have been "okay" or "expected" for fire to erupt if Raila had been injured.
No it's no okay - it a sad reality - but never okay
And PS: I'm not saying there are no double standards. Of course there are! It's true Uhuru shut up when Ruto's car was stoned. What I'm not agreeing is that Uhuru stood up and threatened. You can say he was careless and unfair but what he said did not sound like what I'm reading on social media.
Title: Re: April 3,2022:Uhuru warns ruto.
Post by: Dear Mami on April 04, 2022, 11:34:19 AM
Pundit, you guys are missing the real threat-like thing he said by discussing ad nauseum this sentence that was NOT a threat. What he said about votes, that's the real eyebrow-raising thing, if you're looking at 2022 elections.
Title: Re: April 3,2022:Uhuru warns ruto.
Post by: RV Pundit on April 04, 2022, 11:35:17 AM
What did he says about votes?
Head of state should never say what he said - about fire if Raila had been touched.
Uhuru is mlevi who is shattering the remaining legacy he got left.
Pundit, you guys are missing the real threat-like thing he said by discussing this sentence that was NOT a threat. What he said about votes, that's the real eyebrow-raising thing, if you're looking at 2022 elections.
Title: Re: April 3,2022:Uhuru warns ruto.
Post by: Githunguri on April 04, 2022, 11:35:56 AM

Mafi ya kuku.

Am not Njamba,I am a shoe shiner in the statehouse of the republic of Kenya.

Njamba, masomo or not, usitusi shoe-shiners by including a frothing lowlife like yourself among them. I'm sure they'd be offended by the association.

If you had a working mind you could shoot down my thoughts without being this chokora you are being here. Kumbaff.

An educated fool who struggles to interpret a simple sentence,

It's better to be chokoraa than mjinga educated fool
Title: Re: April 3,2022:Uhuru warns ruto.
Post by: RV Pundit on April 04, 2022, 11:36:58 AM
Happen to even best brains - like prof nyongo - once you subscribe to Ojingaism. Uhuru is completely infected with Ojingaism. Now calling Raila BABA.
An educated fool who struggles to interpret a simple sentence,

It's better to be chokoraa than mjinga educated fool
Title: Re: April 3,2022:Uhuru warns ruto.
Post by: Dear Mami on April 04, 2022, 11:39:23 AM
If Raila had been touched, the country would have lit.
Now please use past, present, present continous, future tense
And simple logic
To understand that Uhuru is elevating Raila to some small GOD who shall not be touched - or they would have been or will be fire..
Same crap.
Uhuru has become no different from a Kondele youth.
Whole PORk should never say that.
Even if it's true indeed that his supporters will react violently.
But those are best left unsaid - for saying it LEGITIMIZE SUCH VIOLENT REACTIONS.
He is saying it's would have been "okay" or "expected" for fire to erupt if Raila had been injured.
No it's no okay - it a sad reality - but never okay
And PS: I'm not saying there are no double standards. Of course there are! It's true Uhuru shut up when Ruto's car was stoned. What I'm not agreeing is that Uhuru stood up and threatened. You can say he was careless and unfair but what he said did not sound like what I'm reading on social media.

But this is true whether it's Raila, Ruto, or even this Uhuru.

Are you telling me if someone shoots Samoei tomorrow or downs his plane, there won't be fire in Kenya? Are you telling me if one of these guys is killed by other hands abs not nature, this country won't see fire? So tell me how this is about Uhuru raising Raila as a god?

People here are always castigating you when you talk about violence in RV and your response is always the same: I'm warning you about what will happen, not inciting. So tell me how your warnings are different from saying, "If you guys harm this person, there will be chaos."? Especially when we all know it's true there will be chaos if it looks like someone has been killed and not just fallen sick or something?
Title: Re: April 3,2022:Uhuru warns ruto.
Post by: Githunguri on April 04, 2022, 11:40:43 AM
Happen to even best brains - like prof nyongo - once you subscribe to Ojingaism. Uhuru is completely infected with Ojingaism. Now calling Raila BABA.
An educated fool who struggles to interpret a simple sentence,

It's better to be chokoraa than mjinga educated fool

Us in Uhuru camp don't believe in Ojingasim,Just using it to stay in power while keeping jalluo happy.

But anyway Ojingaisim is better than murderers
Title: Re: April 3,2022:Uhuru warns ruto.
Post by: RV Pundit on April 04, 2022, 11:41:59 AM
Wewe ni fala nini.
How many times do I have to say - Uhuru is PORK - I am pundit.
I can say anything - including the ugly truth.
Yes it's true that his supporter would have reacted violently
But that is ILLEGAL and NOT CIVILIZED AND NOT EXPECTED IN NORMAL SOCIETY
Raila is just normal citizen - and if injured - the law expect he will be processed like any assaulted person.
THAT SHOULD BE GOV OFFICIAL POSITION
THAT SHOULD BE UHURU OFFICIAL POSITION
RAILA INJURED OR KILLED OR ANYTHING - NOTHING WILL HAPPEN - HE WILL BE PROCESSED LIKE ANYONE ELSE

Gov official position can never be - there will be fire if you touch Raila :) - Fire for what?

JESUS you really suffer from Ojingaism

But this is true whether it's Raila, Ruto, or even this Uhuru.

Are you telling me if someone shoots Samoei tomorrow or downs his plane, there won't be fire in Kenya? Are you telling me if one of these guys is killed by other hands abs not nature, this country won't see fire? So tell me how this is about Uhuru raising Raila as a god?

People here are always castigating you when you talk about violence in RV and your response is always the same: I'm warning you about what will happen, not inciting. So tell me how your warnings are different from saying, "If you guys harm this person, there will be chaos."? Especially when we all know it's true there will be chaos if it looks like someone has been killed and not just fallen sick or something?
Title: Re: April 3,2022:Uhuru warns ruto.
Post by: Dear Mami on April 04, 2022, 11:43:05 AM

An educated fool who struggles to interpret a simple sentence,

It's better to be chokoraa than mjinga educated fool

Twice now you're bringing up my education: inakwashia nini? Nani alikunyima kitabu?

Uneducated or not, you're a low life and will keep being so, by your own behavior, kumbaff.
Title: Re: April 3,2022:Uhuru warns ruto.
Post by: Dear Mami on April 04, 2022, 11:47:51 AM
Wewe ni fala nini.
How many times do I have to say - Uhuru is PORK - I am pundit.
I can say anything - including the ugly truth.
Yes it's true that his supporter would have reacted violently
But that is ILLEGAL and NOT CIVILIZED AND NOT EXPECTED IN NORMAL SOCIETY
Raila is just normal citizen - and if injured - the law expect he will be processed like any assaulted person.

JESUS you really suffer from Ojingaism

But this is true whether it's Raila, Ruto, or even this Uhuru.

Are you telling me if someone shoots Samoei tomorrow or downs his plane, there won't be fire in Kenya? Are you telling me if one of these guys is killed by other hands abs not nature, this country won't see fire? So tell me how this is about Uhuru raising Raila as a god?

People here are always castigating you when you talk about violence in RV and your response is always the same: I'm warning you about what will happen, not inciting. So tell me how your warnings are different from saying, "If you guys harm this person, there will be chaos."? Especially when we all know it's true there will be chaos if it looks like someone has been killed and not just fallen sick or something?

Rubish. You suffer from lack of objectivity whenever Ruto-Uhuru drama comes up.

Uhuru said something FAR MORE problematic in that same speech and youre ignoring it Ati because he said something every child in Kenya knows. A president can indeed tell people to be aware of the consequences such things can create. His only mistake there is to be ONE-SIDED. He should've said the same thing when Ruto's car was hit.

That thing he said about people insulting him in his back/front yard expecting to get votes, wataona: that was far more threat-like to my ears, as far as 2022 elections go. Hii ingine ni drama.
Title: Re: April 3,2022:Uhuru warns ruto.
Post by: Githunguri on April 04, 2022, 11:52:56 AM

An educated fool who struggles to interpret a simple sentence,

It's better to be chokoraa than mjinga educated fool

Twice now you're bringing up my education: inakwashia nini? Nani alikunyima kitabu?

Uneducated or not, you're a low life and will keep being so, by your own behavior, kumbaff.

Am bringing your education into perspective because you are using your smelly ass to think after multiple sex orgies over the weekend.

How am I a low life?yes I am one a matatu conductor in kibera with a stolen phone of a murderered rape vitcim
Title: Re: April 3,2022:Uhuru warns ruto.
Post by: RV Pundit on April 04, 2022, 11:54:48 AM
You're actually sicker than I thought.
Uhuru and gov official position should the RULE OF LAW AND ORDER.
The fact that if RUTO or Raila is injured - there will be violence - is NOT NORMAL AND CANNOT BE NORMALIZED.
ITS OUR DYSFUNCTIONAL POLITICS.
Same with ethnic violence that target innocent people

And I am free to predict - such incidence happening - Uhuru should rally kenya to narrow path  of rule of law and order.

Rule of law - Raila should go to nearest police station - and get P3 form - and file for assault.

He is PORK - I am a Pundit.

Rubish. You suffer from lack of objectivity whenever Ruto-Uhuru drama comes up.

Uhuru said something FAR MORE problematic in that same speech and youre ignoring it Ati because he said something every child in Kenya knows. A president can indeed tell people to be aware of the consequences such things can create. His only mistake there is to be ONE-SIDED. He should've said the same thing when Ruto's car was hit.

That thing he said about people insulting him in his back/front yard expecting to get votes, wataona: that was far more threat-like to my ears, as far as 2022 elections go. Hii ingine ni drama.
Title: Re: April 3,2022:Uhuru warns ruto.
Post by: Dear Mami on April 04, 2022, 12:00:03 PM
Pundit, Uhuru DID issue something like a veiled threat, but you missed it because you're distracted by this non-issue. Endeleeni.

Go back and listen to what he said about those insulting him huko kwao thinking they're getting votes, wataona. THAT sounds like a threat. Because we know how those guys are leaning: so WHAT does he mean?

I won't respond to that lowlife who keeps degrading himself further with every post. Can't believe I almost made the mistake of actually meeting him in Buruburu many years ago. Kumbe guy is mad man. Thank God.
Title: Re: April 3,2022:Uhuru warns ruto.
Post by: Dear Mami on April 04, 2022, 12:46:50 PM
I've listened to it again: Yep! He says the one insulting me at my home thinking he's getting votes, "ngoja ataona ashangae. Tumeelewana?" What does that mean? Nini atawaonesha? This would/should send alarm bells, But noooo. Zero hullabaloo about this!  :D Here or in social media. Instead, dead set focussed on something else that's not even a threat. Mnanishangaza sana.
Title: Re: April 3,2022:Uhuru warns ruto.
Post by: Githunguri on April 04, 2022, 12:58:40 PM
I won't respond to that lowlife who keeps degrading himself further with every post. Can't believe I almost made the mistake of actually meeting him in Buruburu many years ago. Kumbe guy is mad man. Thank God.

Kadama

Lets keep our past relationship out of this.Just because I refused to marry you shouldn't after our few dates shouldn't resultyo this.I can also spill beans hapa hapa.

On one line you claim you wont respond to me,on the other line you respond indirectly by calling me a mad person,Who is the mad person here?

You've called me a Chokoraa,low life,Mad man on this thread,Who would stand that?

Get a life bitch.

Title: Re: April 3,2022:Uhuru warns ruto.
Post by: Dear Mami on April 04, 2022, 01:03:42 PM
Lol, you wish!

I'm very glad I didn't agree to a one-to-one meeting when I thought you were a friend/comrade from nipate. I used to see people calling you mad on nipate, telling you to grab meds, and I'd feel so sorry for you because you seemed like a good person. Kumbe they knew better! Maybe they agreed to meet you, unlike me a d they found out the hard way your Miguna ways! I wish you health and wellness and I'm thankful my intuition told me not to meet someone I only knew online, because you never know! It was right, judging from your insults, and I'm grateful I'm a naturally paranoid person.

You're right about engaging you. It's shocking when youve thought of someone in friendly terms for years :) and almost met them in person in good faith thinking they were a normal friendly person with similar politics, kumbe they are godawful.
Title: Re: April 3,2022:Uhuru warns ruto.
Post by: RV Pundit on April 04, 2022, 01:12:30 PM
But how can that be a threat? I guess he just mean insult will not get them votes? I dont see it as threat of rigging
I've listened to it again: Yep! He says the one insulting me at my home thinking he's getting votes, "ngoja ataona ashangae. Tumeelewana?" What does that mean? Nini atawaonesha? This would/should send alarm bells, But noooo. Zero hullabaloo about this!  :D Here or in social media. Instead, dead set focussed on something else that's not even a threat. Mnanishangaza sana.
Title: Re: April 3,2022:Uhuru warns ruto.
Post by: Dear Mami on April 04, 2022, 01:19:51 PM
Really? Why does he add 'ataona, ashangae.' To me that does not sound innocent because we know that area is UDA. So what does he mean atashangaa? Ataona? If it was battleground, it'd sound less threat-like. Now it doesn't sound innocent. Unless Uhuru is delusional.
Title: Re: April 3,2022:Uhuru warns ruto.
Post by: Githunguri on April 04, 2022, 01:20:08 PM
Lol, you wish!

I'm very glad I didn't agree to a one-to-one meeting when I thought you were a friend/comrade from nipate. I used to see people calling you mad on nipate, telling you to grab meds, and I'd feel so sorry for you because you seemed like a good person. Kumbe they knew better! Maybe they agreed to meet you, unlike me a d they found out the hard way your Miguna ways! I wish you health and wellness and I'm thankful my intuition told me not to meet someone I only knew online, because you never know! It was right, judging from your insults, and I'm grateful I'm a naturally paranoid person.

You're right about engaging you. It's shocking when youve thought of someone in friendly terms for years :) and almost met them in person in good faith thinking they were a normal friendly person with similar politics, kumbe they are godawful.

On a serious note,I am not Njamba.

Why are you paranoid as you've claimed?
Title: Re: April 3,2022:Uhuru warns ruto.
Post by: RV Pundit on April 04, 2022, 01:25:53 PM
I think you're stretching it
Really? Why does he add 'ataona, ashangae.' To me that does not sound innocent because we know that area is UDA. So what does he mean atashangaa? Ataona? If it was battleground, it'd sound less threat-like. Now it doesn't sound innocent. Unless Uhuru is delusional.
Title: Re: April 3,2022:Uhuru warns ruto.
Post by: KenyanPlato on April 04, 2022, 01:31:16 PM
Pundit, this is where you lose all your objectivity. Regardless of whether it was wise or not, are you seriously telling me that when you listened to that speech, you understood Uhuru to be saying something like, "Wewe, touch Raila and see: I'll rain hellfire on you!" And not, "You guys might unwittingly unleash skirmishes." You genuinely believe he meant the first and not the latter from that speech?

Wacha ujinga

Njamba, ujinga is your preserve. Sikunyanganyi.  :D

Wewe I am not this character
Title: Re: April 3,2022:Uhuru warns ruto.
Post by: KenyanPlato on April 04, 2022, 01:35:46 PM
Lol, you wish!

I'm very glad I didn't agree to a one-to-one meeting when I thought you were a friend/comrade from nipate. I used to see people calling you mad on nipate, telling you to grab meds, and I'd feel so sorry for you because you seemed like a good person. Kumbe they knew better! Maybe they agreed to meet you, unlike me a d they found out the hard way your Miguna ways! I wish you health and wellness and I'm thankful my intuition told me not to meet someone I only knew online, because you never know! It was right, judging from your insults, and I'm grateful I'm a naturally paranoid person.

You're right about engaging you. It's shocking when youve thought of someone in friendly terms for years :) and almost met them in person in good faith thinking they were a normal friendly person with similar politics, kumbe they are godawful.
Lol 😆  Kumbe kadame you had a another online boyfriend. Anyway I am too old for this man's antics. I react when provoked. My anger is usually directed at tribal supremacists. We had a lot of them in rcb and choo.com. I dealt them at their level of sickness. Most of them are dead now.
Title: Re: April 3,2022:Uhuru warns ruto.
Post by: GeeMail on April 04, 2022, 04:28:10 PM
Title: Re: April 3,2022:Uhuru warns ruto.
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on April 04, 2022, 04:32:47 PM
Baba has been a god for some time now.  They say he is an institution.  So for better or worse, it is dangerous for the country if his safety is seriously compromised.
Title: Re: April 3,2022:Uhuru warns ruto.
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on April 04, 2022, 04:54:56 PM
Where was he when some of us was saying same thing about Kondele. This is not isolated incident. Uhuru has cheered violence perpetrated by ODM. He did it in Kibera by-elections. He has also basically told everyone who cared to listen that handshake was as reward of Raila violence - to stop him from burning kiosks and such. The subliminal message - if you cause enough chaos including swearing yourself - you'll get rewarded

The sickening double standards, the politicization of key institutions that ought to fight violence, and erosion of public confidence on police/prov admin/dci is leading us to 2007 PEV. The worst is that supreme court just delivered half-arsed BBI ruling that leaves many doubting it's ability to mediate close elections in four months time.

People will eventually say enough is enough - and deal with Uhuru - and his biased security forces. If the security force kill civilians allied to UDA - UDA civilians will kill Azimio civilians. That is taking us back to 2007 pogrom and this time we might not be very luckly - we might lose the country to civil war like Ethiopia, and many African countries.

I've seen UDA people insulting him over this and while I understand the double-standard complaint (why didn't you talk when Ruto car was stoned?) I really don't understand the idea that he was threatening fire if Raila gets hurt. That's a spin of monumental proportions. He was just asking, "You guys, think about it: What if the Dude had actually got hurt? Isn't that how skirmishes start?" This is very obvious to me, so I think those guys spinning it into threats are mean-spirited.

I agree it's a first for a sitting President.  But had he been on Ruto's side, they would have been a pogrom on those locals.
Title: Re: April 3,2022:Uhuru warns ruto.
Post by: sema on April 04, 2022, 05:15:14 PM
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Raila is just normal citizen

He is not and all Kenyans know he is not especially to Luo's. His death would spark chaos just like Ruto's death would spark chaos.

Kenya is a tribally divided banana republic. You can scream law and order all day long, but that's not what it is today. Aren't you the one telling us to always accept the facts as they are? The facts as they are, are this: Kenya is a lawless country. It's presidents are corrupt and thuggish and Uhuru is no exception. We are in an election year and there is real enmity between the president and deputy president. Expecting them to settle this like Sweden is unrealistic. Kenya is still Africa.
Title: Re: April 3,2022:Uhuru warns ruto.
Post by: RV Pundit on April 04, 2022, 05:21:39 PM
Learn basic English.
Indeed violence would erupt if Ruto or Raila were touched.
This is NOT normal in a democracy - we have elevated these people to kings.
Gov should never encourage or normalize such violence.
Gov job is to normalize the fact that Raila or Ruto are normal citizens.
If they get assaulted - nothing out to happen.
Even if something will happen - gov should insist nothing happen as they work to make sure indeed nothing happens

Kwani akili hamna nini.

You cannot give a stamp of approval to BAD THINGS - even if they are reality.

Police should never tell you dont pass there because there are thugs who will kill you.
Their job should be to ensure thugs do not take over like that.
And if they cannot - the best they can say is that area has hyenas and snakes - so avoid it.


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Raila is just normal citizen

He is not and all Kenyans know he is not especially to Luo's. His death would spark chaos just like Ruto's death would spark chaos.

Kenya is a tribally divided banana republic. You can scream law and order all day long, but that's not what it is today. Aren't you the one telling us to always accept the facts as they are? The facts as they are, are this: Kenya is a lawless country. It's presidents are corrupt and thuggish and Uhuru is no exception. We are in an election year and there is real enmity between the president and deputy president. Expecting them to settle this like Sweden is unrealistic. Kenya is still Africa.
Title: Re: April 3,2022:Uhuru warns ruto.
Post by: sema on April 04, 2022, 06:18:20 PM
This is not about basic English. You are now the one in denial about the facts.

Kenya is not a "normal" democracy.  In fact, it's not a democracy at all (ala the western, advanced democracies where you have rule of law and where the institutions of government work).

Kenya is a tribally divided society that practices tribal voting every 5 years. Not democracy. Tribal village voting.

You are expecting too much from the corrupt thugs that rule that country (since when have they ever adhered to law and order? )
Title: Re: April 3,2022:Uhuru warns ruto.
Post by: RV Pundit on April 04, 2022, 07:30:27 PM
I expect the PORK of kenya to aspire and inspire us to higher ideals...not to talk like Kondele drunkard...that touching Raila is fire.
This is not about basic English. You are now the one in denial about the facts.

Kenya is not a "normal" democracy.  In fact, it's not a democracy at all (ala the western, advanced democracies where you have rule of law and where the institutions of government work).

Kenya is a tribally divided society that practices tribal voting every 5 years. Not democracy. Tribal village voting.

You are expecting too much from the corrupt thugs that rule that country (since when have they ever adhered to law and order? )
Title: Re: April 3,2022:Uhuru warns ruto.
Post by: GeeMail on April 04, 2022, 08:44:54 PM
I expect the PORK of kenya to aspire and inspire us to higher ideals...not to talk like Kondele drunkard...that touching Raila is fire.
This is not about basic English. You are now the one in denial about the facts.

Kenya is not a "normal" democracy.  In fact, it's not a democracy at all (ala the western, advanced democracies where you have rule of law and where the institutions of government work).

Kenya is a tribally divided society that practices tribal voting every 5 years. Not democracy. Tribal village voting.

You are expecting too much from the corrupt thugs that rule that country (since when have they ever adhered to law and order? )

Pundit are you not telling us here daily that touching Ruto ballot is fire threatening Uhuru people with chalkface warriors? Is daily warlike threat normal democracy?
Title: Re: April 3,2022:Uhuru warns ruto.
Post by: sema on April 04, 2022, 09:26:25 PM
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I expect the PORK of kenya to aspire and inspire us to higher ideals...not to talk like Kondele drunkard...that touching Raila is fire

Maybe one day your dreams of a Kenyan Nelson Mandela will come true but as of today your dreams are not valid.

The hope in Kenya is that the present thug (uhuru muigai kenyatta) does not destroy the entire country as he leaves office and plunge it into civil war. The baseline hope is that he leaves it intact for the new thug (william samoei ruto) to take over without the loss of too many lives.

Aspirations and inspirations - that one you can keep manifesting for  :D
Title: Re: April 3,2022:Uhuru warns ruto.
Post by: RV Pundit on April 04, 2022, 09:35:09 PM
Low IQ morons litter this forum..this good example of how thick headed mwafrika can be.PORK is symbol of national unity and many things that doesn't allow him to speak recklessly even if it was true.Triumphism has no place in leadership.Proper leader should inspire and aspire the country to aim for higher ideals.I expect Uhuru even when being an idiot to call out Kenya aim higher..but we have a desperate mlevi unable to govern and abandoned by his people taking frustration on Kenya