Remarkable how our tourism industry kitchen totos are unable to see that between tourism, wildlife, and pastoralism, tourism is the intruder, or to see the connection between enclosure of a million+ acres of land by settlers turned CONservationists and human/wildlife conflict.
— David Ndii (@DavidNdii) September 13, 2021
Who owns what in Laikipia. No. 3 will (not) shock you. pic.twitter.com/8omE8ufpF9
— David Ndii (@DavidNdii) September 13, 2021
Who sold a whole county to colonialist white supremacy?
They all moved out of Karen and environs and settled in one county.
I saw matiangi sent military to protect them from natives
Solution is simple.
Give Maasai that land.
And they will sell it mostly to Kikuyu in 10yrs top.
Kikuyu will move in their number - and fence it off.
Maasai pastoralism will end
And problem solved.
Gov should compulsory acquire most of these ranches - pay off the British.
Which Maasai should get it? anybody with Maasai blood can make a claim?
In 2019, NRT which now controls 42k sq. km (10m+ acres) paid communities $1.3m tourism revenue. Same year, pastoralists sold livestock worth $1.1b, almost 1000X more. Tourism is not a viable enterprise for pastoralist communities. NRT conservancy model is a ruse to enclose land pic.twitter.com/J7Q7tWAHIm
— David Ndii (@DavidNdii) September 14, 2021
Livestock sales pic.twitter.com/50HTjkJBHf
— David Ndii (@DavidNdii) September 14, 2021
In 2019, NRT which now controls 42k sq. km (10m+ acres) paid communities $1.3m tourism revenue. Same year, pastoralists sold livestock worth $1.1b, almost 1000X more. Tourism is not a viable enterprise for pastoralist communities. NRT conservancy model is a ruse to enclose land pic.twitter.com/J7Q7tWAHIm
— David Ndii (@DavidNdii) September 14, 2021
Agree - relocate that Nairobi National Park - and take it to Turkana. This congame need to be called out.In 2019, NRT which now controls 42k sq. km (10m+ acres) paid communities $1.3m tourism revenue. Same year, pastoralists sold livestock worth $1.1b, almost 1000X more. Tourism is not a viable enterprise for pastoralist communities. NRT conservancy model is a ruse to enclose land pic.twitter.com/J7Q7tWAHIm
— David Ndii (@DavidNdii) September 14, 2021
Agree - relocate that Nairobi National Park - and take it to Turkana. This congame need to be called out.
Better relocate all Nairobians back to where they originate from and leave the Maasai and the animals to reclaim back their land.
Bottom of you are wrong.
Nairobi has by happenstance become important city.
It has economies of LOCATION - this is NOT EASY TO CREATE.
Nairobi should be expanded...it the cows that gives the milk.
Not reduced.
Nairobi National Park - the land itself is worth serious money
Imagine 30,000 acres where land is about 1Million dollars - at very least.
That is clean 30B dollars.
Give it to Chinese to build us a new city
And send the animals to Siberia....they can go join Amboselli.
We can have a few in the orphanage and zoo.
Then move the people living in slums, eastland and rest to the new city of Nairobi National Park.
That will inject economy with maybe 100B dollars.
As for animals - surely who keep wild animals in the middle of the city in 30,000 acres of land??????????? Even richest countries CANNOT JUSTIFY SUCH NOENSE FROM CONgame conservatist..
We are wasting a lot of money - to keep a few miserable animal in a city of noise and pollution.
Move the animals
If I am Ruto in my second term - I will degazatte Nairobi National Park - Give KWS alternative land of 200,000 acres in ISIOLO. Let it become the resort city of kenya. CONservation Protesters should face slum dwellers of Kibra living worse than animals. They already made kibra people part of Nairobi National Park - with slum tourism.
Nairobi is business and industrial city - Amboselli is few kilometers away - go there and see animals.Better relocate all Nairobians back to where they originate from and leave the Maasai and the animals to reclaim back their land.
How will a new city generate revenue?
What will slumdogs do at national park they can’t do in Kibra valley?
Nairobi is bulging on Kiambu and Kajiado front. That’s exactly what would happen over the park were it so suddenly vanish.
Buildings don’t magically generate income
The poor need to live walking distance to industrial area, rich neighborhood and offices where they work as cleaners, factory workers, and the likes...unless you invest free mass transport.
Transport from Kiambu or Kitengela to Nairobi and back - alone is 200shs - for people who at best earn 400shs - on a good day - they will be working for transport.
Suburbs worlwide are for the rich - not the poor. The poor need to stay in the inner ci.
So move the animals to Kajiado - and let mass affordable housing be enacted to give our poor decent affordable living.
Otherwise it's CONservancy; it useless feel good animal park of 30,000 with a smattering of animals - of doubtful ecological benefit.
Meanwhile half of Nairobi live in slums; cram like sardines; while a few lions roam 30,000 acres.
And yet we have Tsavo and entire north kenya for those animals.
Ohoo we got the only national park in the city :) :) who cares? It earns nothing; Meanwhile we have worst slums in Africa.
Give chinese those 30K acres - and ask them to put two million residential units,
All the white conservancies bla de bla should be deported - if they cannot value human life - but prefer animal life. If animals are so important - let them pay enough money for it.How will a new city generate revenue?
What will slumdogs do at national park they can’t do in Kibra valley?
Nairobi is bulging on Kiambu and Kajiado front. That’s exactly what would happen over the park were it so suddenly vanish.
Buildings don’t magically generate income
They use trains which are e cheaper while the dirt poor walk to work
Seems like your only argument is they will save a few coins in transport. Is that how to generate hundreds of billions?
Agree - relocate that Nairobi National Park - and take it to Turkana. This congame need to be called out.
Why bring up Nairobi National Park? Who is agitating for that land?
Has Ruto not stolen enough land already?
You are a funny incoherent mosquito aki
If Luo did not have low self esteem they wont be happy to live in slums - and for animals to live like kings.
When Ruto will become PORK.
Hio NNP tutakawa
Hio Gigiri sijui Ngong forest we will half it.
Which city allows prime land to be wasted when people are living in deplorable poverty?
Humans first. People have immediate needs. And you're telling us sijui climate change. No poverty is killing people NOW
Peleka climate change out of a city to turkana where land per acre is 10k.
I'm beginning to suspect your Gema drinking buddy occasionally logs in under you handle :D
Jaluo this and that...wacha ukabila na concentrate on the matter at hand.
Why are you endlessly calling for de-gazettement of Nairobi National Park?
Kuna nini hapo? Kwani looter alimbiwa kuna madini hapo?
As for the rest of your anti environmental diatribes, pure diarrhea.
Even Luto can't dare touch those resources. The days of Moi are over.
We have restored Mau forest, deal with it.
We have to tell ourselves the truth.
We cannot be happy when 50 percent of Nairobeans are living in such deplorable condition.
It goes against my upbringing as Kalenjin - we are very communal just people.
I cannot be happy when Kibra is staring at me - in fact - if Ruto become president - we need to plant trees around kibra.
It really pricks my conscience and I would never live in langata.
And just opposite of Langata - lies 30B dollars resources.
Ruto wont go for this in 1st term - but 2nd term - hapo Ruto will start with NNP - by then Ruto will have incited Slum dwellers and they will invade it.
Beside Ruto has Phd in Plant ecology and all things enviroment - so he will be the enviromental expert.
People DO NOT DESTROY environment for fun.
Maasai do not overgraze and overstock for fun.
It's because of poverty. Kipsigis invading Mau are not rich - they are poor - cutting trees to grow food. Not to keep few lions
As we work on family planning - there has to be flexibility - in using our resources better including forests and animal parks.
We have to constantly do the maths. We cannot AFFORD to buy DEVELOPED world luxuries. Even Trump said NOPE to climate change.
Is NNP giving us anything apart from bragging rights? Ecologically? Economically.
Natural resources are NOT GOD - to be left virgin - they are to be used - we just have to study the ecological and economic - opportunity cost - and see. Maybe if we delete NNP - and give KWS money to buy land in Turkana and keep many animals - it will be better.
of course rich white people from developed world will cause chaos but this is 2020 - not 1990s when Moi depended on donor aid.
Some of these racist people will donate billion of dollars if they heard animals were dying - but donate zero - if they heard African were dying - for them black people are worse than their dogs - their dogs live pampered life - more than a kibera kid will ever dream of.
Without even going to the environmental demerits of degazetting NNP, it won't benefit the small guy the land will be snapped up by a coalition of rich foreigners and Mt Kenya elites. Not smart.
2nd objection: We are mismanaging the land we already have access to, having access to more land won't make us better stewards.
Contraception is free stop having kids ovyo ovyo and life will be good.
My argument is 30B dollars worth of prime real estate in the middle of a city like Nairobi should not be wasted on some few lions.
We can use part of it to settle slum dwellers, part of it to do so much.
30,000 acres is a lot.
NNP is about 1/5 of Nairobi landmass.They use trains which are e cheaper while the dirt poor walk to work
Seems like your only argument is they will save a few coins in transport. Is that how to generate hundreds of billions?
I doubt NNP is of any ecological significance - that reducing it to a respectable zoo - would impact anyone. Already with closure of the corridor to Amboselli - it's dead - and is more a glorified zoo.
Yes a few fat cats will benefit more but generally humans will benefit.
Contraception is for the future - unless you want us to kill those already born and living in deep poverty.
Zero sum
Whoever buys 30,000 acres has enough options as we speak to burn cash.
So disposing it adds NOTHING to the economy
What is it about NNP that has you salivating bana ? :D :D
Hakuna kale hapo, Mt Kenya elites and foreigners stand to profit as I said, the average Nairobi dweller will not see any benefit instead they will lose green lung sorely needed in densely populated toxic urban concrete jungle.
Even more puzzling you don't want to touch mzungu ranches in Laikipia but you would have us knock down a national park?
Make me understand you logic.
It's prime land - 5kms from Nairobi city. Show me a city with national park - in the world - it doesnt exist. It doesnt make economic sense.
As for Laikipia - the land is private - and gov will have to spend our tax money to buy it for pastoralism. There is no other way to resolve that - grabbing their land will crush FDI and will send wrong signal on private property.
As for Kericho or Kakuzi - the land is own by county govs - it's a community land - and that should be easy problem to sort.
What is it about NNP that has you salivating bana ? :D :D
Hakuna kale hapo, Mt Kenya elites and foreigners stand to profit as I said, the average Nairobi dweller will not see any benefit instead they will lose green lung sorely needed in densely populated toxic urban concrete jungle.
Even more puzzling you don't want to touch mzungu ranches in Laikipia but you would have us knock down a national park?
Make me understand you logic.
It's public land for public good. Gov will be one selling or using it for public good projects. This will unlock 30B dollars to Nairobi economy compared to maybe 1M dollars we now get. Econ 101. You should go back to Common Sense 101.Zero sum
Whoever buys 30,000 acres has enough options as we speak to burn cash.
So disposing it adds NOTHING to the economy
It's prime land - 5kms from Nairobi city. Show me a city with national park - in the world - it doesnt exist. It doesnt make economic sense.
As for Laikipia - the land is private - and gov will have to spend our tax money to buy it for pastoralism. There is no other way to resolve that - grabbing their land will crush FDI and will send wrong signal on private property.
As for Kericho or Kakuzi - the land is own by county govs - it's a community land - and that should be easy problem to sort.
It's prime land - 5kms from Nairobi city. Show me a city with national park - in the world - it doesnt exist. It doesnt make economic sense.
As for Laikipia - the land is private - and gov will have to spend our tax money to buy it for pastoralism. There is no other way to resolve that - grabbing their land will crush FDI and will send wrong signal on private property.
As for Kericho or Kakuzi - the land is own by county govs - it's a community land - and that should be easy problem to sort.
Nairobi.
You are contradicting yourself. Leave NNP alone and concentrate on Laikipia and Mau. NNP is not for Kales to discuss about.
We cannot leave 30B dollars staring at us. Stop dreaming. Kales must also own Nairobi. Mau pia is own by Kales and Maasai- it's a community land - for our use when we want. Laikipia pia - pokot need a share. Kericho hiyo ni yetu - we are taking it - for Mzungu mistreated Talais.
Can you explain why a city state like Singapore has achieved so much despite not having massive land? Land availability is not the issue here, but what you do with the land you have.
I know you want to make another Pipeline out of NNP.
Why have you not called for the scrapping of Uhuru Park and City Park? These are right in the middle of the city. Prime land as you would call them. :DWe cannot leave 30B dollars staring at us. Stop dreaming. Kales must also own Nairobi. Mau pia is own by Kales and Maasai- it's a community land - for our use when we want. Laikipia pia - pokot need a share. Kericho hiyo ni yetu - we are taking it - for Mzungu mistreated Talais.[/quote
Singapore is nothing without the straits - the natural suez canal or panama canal that force all asian ships to pass there.
We need more parks like Uhuru parks;
But not NNP or big Karua or Ngong forest
Just 10 percent forest cover in Nairobi.
Nairobi has 45 percent green cover I think
And more than half resident are crammed in slums
Nairobi has a lot of apartments standing empty. Why not start there and move people living in Mathare to these emtpty apartments? Charity stands at home.
Start with Weston :D
Nairobi has a lot of apartments standing empty. Why not start there and move people living in Mathare to these emtpty apartments? Charity stands at home.
It was a mistake to leave housing entirely to private sector.
When you grew up in Ololo - you lived in cheap public sector housing.
We need the same...British were able to build those house..but we cannot????????
It can only be cheap because gov owns the land.
But if I buy an acre for 1m dollars..
Then housing is already too expensive for Kibera and Mathare slum dwellers.
If a housing developer start with free land, free basic infrastructure,zero rated building materials, then they can build colonial type mass cheap housing schemes for the poor.
Is the housing problem in Kenya due to shortage of land or due to people with few resources?
Govt has a lot of land in Kenya and also in Nairobi. It is the resources that a lacking and not the availability of land.
One thing I know for sure, Nairobi went to the dogs the minute like minded people like you from ocha came to Nairobi in their late teens and started having a say on the way the city is run.
Stop also believing you can build houses for all the resident of Nairobi with gov funds. Give the people means of earning decent money and they will find a way of living decently.
Is the housing problem in Kenya due to shortage of land or due to people with few resources?
Govt has a lot of land in Kenya and also in Nairobi. It is the resources that a lacking and not the availability of land.
One thing I know for sure, Nairobi went to the dogs the minute like minded people like you from ocha came to Nairobi in their late teens and started having a say on the way the city is run.
Stop also believing you can build houses for all the resident of Nairobi with gov funds. Give the people means of earning decent money and they will find a way of living decently.It was a mistake to leave housing entirely to private sector.
When you grew up in Ololo - you lived in cheap public sector housing.
We need the same...British were able to build those house..but we cannot????????
It can only be cheap because gov owns the land.
But if I buy an acre for 1m dollars..
Then housing is already too expensive for Kibera and Mathare slum dwellers.
If a housing developer start with free land, free basic infrastructure,zero rated building materials, then they can build colonial type mass cheap housing schemes for the poor.
Housing is expensive in Kenya is due to people hoarding land. I buy 50 acres and wait to flip. I add no value to it, but this land keeps rising in value due to FOMO . No costs incurred while holding these land and I flip at 100%. Tax every inch of land and youll see inflation in land pricing disappear.
Housing is expensive in Kenya is due to people hoarding land. I buy 50 acres and wait to flip. I add no value to it, but this land keeps rising in value due to FOMO . No costs incurred while holding these land and I flip at 100%. Tax every inch of land and youll see inflation in land pricing disappear.
Mara Kericho tea, mara Nrb national park, Mara conservationists, Mara hii, there, where, everywhere.
Same crap like 2007.
I hope Ndii stats are not Trumpian??
If locals generate billions, where did it go? Into the dust?
All I know, Mugabe gave land to thousands - then Zim started importing food after that.
Yeah I have a feeling we are putting our hearts ahead of our brains on this matter. This aliens really turned around that province. The locals are very happy with NRT's especially the women. Opportunities galore.
I don't know, sometimes I'm resentful like akina Ndii but then I have doubts. You just know those pastoralists are going to graze every blade of grass to dust if they are given the whole province.
They have no clue. We need a solution.
. You just know those pastoralists are going to graze every blade of grass to dust if they are given the whole province.
I also invite you to study how your Luo tribesmen have overfished Lake victoria - even the fingerlings - omenas are now depleted. Museveni is trying so much jailing kenyans - and trying to save lake victoria - from over-fishing.
As you enjoy eating millions of omenas - remember lake victoria is dying - and now fish is imported from china.
Museveni in Uganda has tried to put serious controls in licensing of fishing but it going to be a lost war....as millions of uganda are born every day.
After we are done eating the fingerlings - what will eat next?
Holistic is luxury we cannot afford. We need grow our fish. We need to grow animal feeds using GMOs and chemical fertilizers.
Actually GMO's are luxury we can't afford - after all they are proprietary technologies owned by large western chemical companies that we would be forced to pay for heftily, fertilizers vile vile, imported fossil fuels - again we can ill afford. Holistic - is free and harmless. Pick your choice.
RV Kirgit needs to educate you on the dangers of GMO's. It is criminal anyone even advocate for it.
Leave us with conspiracy theories. GMO and Monsantos.
GMO is open field...you cannot patent it forever...there are generics and all the work.
Lake Victoria natural fish cannot sustain a population of 200M that we are approaching in East Africa. It simply cannot. So holistic approach of giving fish a break to breed is not working. Uganda is trying - but poor fishermen are pulling all stops to beat it.
We need SCIENTIFIC driven process to feed our large population. GMOS/Artificial fertilizers/Aquaculture. All these ARE PROVEN MODELS feeding 1.5B chinese - and 7B people worldwide
The natural way of things cannot feed and clothe 7-10B people.
Our biggest natural resource is OUR BRAINS - and as human we need to make it work. We are not animals in earth. WE ARE GODS. We are special. We cannot live organic natural life like other animals.
Kareiva’s ideas are a good place to start in understanding the neo-environmentalists. He is an outspoken former conservationist who now believes that most of what the greens think they know is wrong. Nature, he says, is more resilient than fragile; science proves it. “Humans degrade and destroy and crucify the natural environment,” he says, “and 80 percent of the time it recovers pretty well.” Wilderness does not exist; all of it has been influenced by humans at some time. Trying to protect large functioning ecosystems from human development is mostly futile; humans like development, and you can’t stop them from having it. Nature is tough and will adapt to this: “Today, coyotes roam downtown Chicago, and peregrine falcons astonish San Franciscans as they sweep down skyscraper canyons. . . . As we destroy habitats, we create new ones.” Now that “science” has shown us that nothing is “pristine” and nature “adapts,” there’s no reason to worry about many traditional green goals such as, for example, protecting rainforest habitats. “Is halting deforestation in the Amazon . . . feasible?” he asks. “Is it even necessary?” Somehow, you know what the answer is going to be before he gives it to you.
Beyond the field of conservation, the neo-environmentalists are distinguished by their attitude toward new technologies, which they almost uniformly see as positive. Civilization, nature, and people can only be “saved” by enthusiastically embracing biotechnology, synthetic biology, nuclear power, geoengineering, and anything else with the prefix “new” that annoys Greenpeace. The traditional green focus on “limits” is dismissed as naïve. We are now, in Brand’s words, “as gods,” and we have to step up and accept our responsibility to manage the planet rationally through the use of new technology guided by enlightened science.
Neo-environmentalists also tend to exhibit an excitable enthusiasm for markets. They like to put a price on things like trees, lakes, mist, crocodiles, rainforests, and watersheds, all of which can deliver “ecosystem services,” which can be bought and sold, measured and totted up. Tied in with this is an almost religious attitude toward the scientific method. Everything that matters can be measured by science and priced by markets, and any claims without numbers attached can be easily dismissed. This is presented as “pragmatism” but is actually something rather different: an attempt to exclude from the green debate any interventions based on morality, emotion, intuition, spiritual connection, or simple human feeling.
Some of this might be shocking to some old-guard greens—which is the point—but it is hardly a new message. In fact, it is a very old one; it is simply a variant on the old Wellsian techno-optimism that has been promising us cornucopia for over a century. It’s an old-fashioned Big Science, Big Tech, and Big Money narrative filtered through the lens of the internet and garlanded with holier-than-thou talk about saving the poor and feeding the world.
Leave us with conspiracy theories. GMO and Monsantos.
GMO is open field...you cannot patent it forever...there are generics and all the work.
Farmers who buy seed protected by some types of patent must sign an agreement not to sell or save seed from these crops – so they are obliged to buy fresh seeds every year. It is happened in India with Bt Cotton, leading to impoverished and indebted farmers, mass suicides. Large Agrochemicals still own the patents for 2/3rds of GMO crops.Lake Victoria natural fish cannot sustain a population of 200M that we are approaching in East Africa. It simply cannot. So holistic approach of giving fish a break to breed is not working. Uganda is trying - but poor fishermen are pulling all stops to beat it.
Fish farming is not economical. Quality wise they are poor imitations of the real thing. Farmed fish is not efficient use of resources, it is akin to holding cattle in pens feeding them hay instead of letting them graze naturally which produces superior product. Fish farming is capital intensive - you need feed, drugs to treat the diseases caused by fish being in close proximity, land, etc It doesn't beat nature on volume either
as you are trying to insinuate.We need SCIENTIFIC driven process to feed our large population. GMOS/Artificial fertilizers/Aquaculture. All these ARE PROVEN MODELS feeding 1.5B chinese - and 7B people worldwide
The natural way of things cannot feed and clothe 7-10B people.
Our biggest natural resource is OUR BRAINS - and as human we need to make it work. We are not animals in earth. WE ARE GODS. We are special. We cannot live organic natural life like other animals.
Oh my word! I was like you when I was a teen.
The religious belief in the scientific method, check
We are Gods who have dominion over nature, check
Technology is the solution for all our woes, check
You don't know it but you are a neo-environmentalist.QuoteKareiva’s ideas are a good place to start in understanding the neo-environmentalists. He is an outspoken former conservationist who now believes that most of what the greens think they know is wrong. Nature, he says, is more resilient than fragile; science proves it. “Humans degrade and destroy and crucify the natural environment,” he says, “and 80 percent of the time it recovers pretty well.” Wilderness does not exist; all of it has been influenced by humans at some time. Trying to protect large functioning ecosystems from human development is mostly futile; humans like development, and you can’t stop them from having it. Nature is tough and will adapt to this: “Today, coyotes roam downtown Chicago, and peregrine falcons astonish San Franciscans as they sweep down skyscraper canyons. . . . As we destroy habitats, we create new ones.” Now that “science” has shown us that nothing is “pristine” and nature “adapts,” there’s no reason to worry about many traditional green goals such as, for example, protecting rainforest habitats. “Is halting deforestation in the Amazon . . . feasible?” he asks. “Is it even necessary?” Somehow, you know what the answer is going to be before he gives it to you.QuoteBeyond the field of conservation, the neo-environmentalists are distinguished by their attitude toward new technologies, which they almost uniformly see as positive. Civilization, nature, and people can only be “saved” by enthusiastically embracing biotechnology, synthetic biology, nuclear power, geoengineering, and anything else with the prefix “new” that annoys Greenpeace. The traditional green focus on “limits” is dismissed as naïve. We are now, in Brand’s words, “as gods,” and we have to step up and accept our responsibility to manage the planet rationally through the use of new technology guided by enlightened science.QuoteNeo-environmentalists also tend to exhibit an excitable enthusiasm for markets. They like to put a price on things like trees, lakes, mist, crocodiles, rainforests, and watersheds, all of which can deliver “ecosystem services,” which can be bought and sold, measured and totted up. Tied in with this is an almost religious attitude toward the scientific method. Everything that matters can be measured by science and priced by markets, and any claims without numbers attached can be easily dismissed. This is presented as “pragmatism” but is actually something rather different: an attempt to exclude from the green debate any interventions based on morality, emotion, intuition, spiritual connection, or simple human feeling.QuoteSome of this might be shocking to some old-guard greens—which is the point—but it is hardly a new message. In fact, it is a very old one; it is simply a variant on the old Wellsian techno-optimism that has been promising us cornucopia for over a century. It’s an old-fashioned Big Science, Big Tech, and Big Money narrative filtered through the lens of the internet and garlanded with holier-than-thou talk about saving the poor and feeding the world.
https://orionmagazine.org/article/dark-ecology/
^^ This article is one of my favorites of all time.
You believe in two things that do not go hand in hand.
Sustainable FAST GROWING Development
It not possible.
You develop - like US or Europe - then you afford sustainable high quality natural organic lifestyle...maisha kwa kipole with your pet :)- you start hugging trees - visiting nature parks - and your life highlighte is to see animals in their natural fauna and flora - and all the nice little things...and you start seeing people eking their life by cutting trees or torturing animals as cruel primitives.
When you're developing - you need to do a lot of nasty things and cause a lot of damage to yourself, to the enviroment and name it. Without it you remain poor or even die. The choice is not the best fish - it's ANY FISH
But once you develop - then everything is great - your population stabilize and even reduce - many things we only do it once - like railways we only build them once in every 200yrs - same with most houses - and name it.
Now you can afford all the nice things you see ABROAD. And their economy doesnt grow - it just usual 1 or 2 percent.
Africa and developing world simply cannot afford SUSTAINABLE FAST GROWTH. IT NOT POSSIBLE.
All the ideas you've been indoctrinated in the west is SIMPLY WESTERN DEVELOPED COUNTRIES ATTEMPT TO THROW DOWN THE LADDER after reaching the apex.
You're telling us to just climb to the top using our bare limbs when you took a ladder to the top and threw it away.
What is development? We need to define that first.
Go first
What is development? We need to define that first.
Go first