Murgor - cantankerous as ever

[RV Pundit]

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[Kadudu]

He is too much of himself. He made his money by being a friend of Gideon Moi those days of Arap Moi and then comes to play here safi kama pamba.
Can he explain how he was made CBK lawyer after he came straight from Law School? How does one land such a job in this profession while being a rookie?

[RV Pundit]

He is dynasty. The father was PC during Kenyatta time and acquire large land holding and wealth. He married daughter of the former AG - Mathew Guy Muli. That explain his arrogance and pride. He is not looking for a job to buy food like the rest of us.

He is too much of himself. He made his money by being a friend of Gideon Moi those days of Arap Moi and then comes to play here safi kama pamba.
Can he explain how he was made CBK lawyer after he came straight from Law School? How does one land such a job in this profession while being a rookie?

[RV Pundit]

Remembering Charles Changwony Murgor
*Assistant District Officer Nandi 1952.
*Assistant District Officer Baringo 1956
*Assistant Registrar of lands 1961.
*Provincial African courts officer ,Coast 1963
*Senior District Commissioner 1965
*Provincial Commissioner Nyanza 1967...was among Government officers who escorted Mboya's body to Rusinga in 1969.
*Mp Eldoret South Consituency 1974.
*Assistant Minister for Livestock Development.
Among his notable children is Lawyer Philip Murgor

[RV Pundit]

His father saved many Luos from being massacred by presidential escort of kenyatta in Russian Hospital debacle

[Kadudu]

Btw, is that really the father? The man is black and the son half black.

He is dynasty. The father was PC during Kenyatta time and acquire large land holding and wealth. He married daughter of the former AG - Mathew Guy Muli. That explain his arrogance and pride. He is not looking for a job to buy food like the rest of us.

[RV Pundit]

He looks biracial; But looking at father; I can see resemblance; Maybe the mother is biracial or indian.

Btw, is that really the father? The man is black and the son half black.

[audacityofhope]

He looks biracial; But looking at father; I can see resemblance; Maybe the mother is biracial or indian.

Btw, is that really the father? The man is black and the son half black.

Nope Pundit. Whenever you use the word "maybe" it is because you don't know. The mother is a PURE kale who reverted to her maiden name to protect (polygamous home) property she worked "hard" to acquire ...

Wikipedia: Philip Murgor was born on the 4th of July 1961 at Iten District Hospital to Christine Chebor, a nurse, in Elgeyo Marakwet

There was a bitter succession case which was resolved at some point. When feuding with his step brothers/sisters, they would call him 'Kalasinga'. So now you know what kind of biracial. Still want more hints, Patriarch Charles' story is same as MDvd. I hand it to the culture of our parents and likes of Mudavadi age mates who accept children born in their homes as theirs. No questions asked. Only the mother should know who the dad is.

The resemblance to Charles Murgor is therefore only in your imagination.

BTW to borrow from Justice Majanja, Philip Murgor went to Lenana School.

[Nowayhaha]

He did his pupilage in one of the best law firms then the Hamiltons.
He given an offer to stay there but he opted for the state law. A reserve of non elequoent lawyers.

He is too much of himself. He made his money by being a friend of Gideon Moi those days of Arap Moi and then comes to play here safi kama pamba.
Can he explain how he was made CBK lawyer after he came straight from Law School? How does one land such a job in this profession while being a rookie?

[Pragmatic]

Nope Pundit. Whenever you use the word "maybe" it is because you don't know. The mother is a PURE kale who reverted to her maiden name to protect (polygamous home) property she worked "hard" to acquire ...

AoH, I believe Philip to be quarter racial if there is any such. The mum was nusu. And i do remember Philip and his equally light-skin siblings tormenting young gels around Moi's Bridge in early - mid eighties because they had a huge motorbike (maybe a Harley) riding into Moi's Bridge from Moiben. Quite the spectacle it used to be...

[RV Pundit]

There were biracial kalenjin born by mzungu - mostly working as maid or yaya. I suspect the mother was born through such. People like Bethwel Kiplagat or Moi's GSU escort commander Manyinyey. In our village - we had one old man - who was biracial - the mother worked as maid for mzungu. Recently he died from a rare disease that affect wazungu. You find such in Mt kenya too..places that had white settlers.

These are example of poor half wazungu kipsigis - mostly victims of rape by wazungu. But some of them were rewarded handsomely by wazungu - they gave them land or cattle or something.



https://www.breakingkenyanews.com/2019/05/children-of-no-country-inside-agonised.html

Another victim, Ludiah Tapsagaa, now 99, gave birth to three biracial children in her early life. Born in 1920 in Kericho, she was only 14 when she was quietly taken in by a European man in Kerenga in Kericho, who kept her as his concubin

He looks biracial; But looking at father; I can see resemblance; Maybe the mother is biracial or indian.

Btw, is that really the father? The man is black and the son half black.

Nope Pundit. Whenever you use the word "maybe" it is because you don't know. The mother is a PURE kale who reverted to her maiden name to protect (polygamous home) property she worked "hard" to acquire ...

Wikipedia: Philip Murgor was born on the 4th of July 1961 at Iten District Hospital to Christine Chebor, a nurse, in Elgeyo Marakwet

There was a bitter succession case which was resolved at some point. When feuding with his step brothers/sisters, they would call him 'Kalasinga'. So now you know what kind of biracial. Still want more hints, Patriarch Charles' story is same as MDvd. I hand it to the culture of our parents and likes of Mudavadi age mates who accept children born in their homes as theirs. No questions asked. Only the mother should know who the dad is.

The resemblance to Charles Murgor is therefore only in your imagination.

BTW to borrow from Justice Majanja, Philip Murgor went to Lenana School.

[RV Pundit]

The Kipsigis called biracial children chebisaginik or “weaverbirds”. Chebisakiat is a yellow-feathered bird with plumes of black and was used in derogation to describe the biracial heritage of the children, leading to social stigma and segregation.

[audacityofhope]

Philip Murgor (PM) with brother and cousins.

My roommate at campus in Hall 10, was biracial, half Asian half black. Being my roommate I got close enough to discern the difference between the tone of a half-caste (as we used to call them) and someone with just a plain light skin. My roommate actually wasn't eti even light skinned - he had a dark shade but was not black. On the other hand I am alittle light skinned for a luhya or Bukusu for that matter but interestingly all my kids are a shade lighter than me yet I have sired them even with darker women (In my youth I sowed wild oats) - I leave that to those who study genetics and genomics to explain. My point is I can tell the fine line between a biracial skin and just a light tone skin.

It could be that you @pragmatic never got close enough to those bike riders to see that PM's skin tone is biracial as opposed to just having a light tone. I therefore offer you this photo so you can make deductions!

@Pragmatic too bad you missed out on the run up to PM's day at JSC. Lenana alumni whatsApp groups were awash with revelations about PM's heritage. Don't  worry I will for your sake post a little of what made the rounds, most revealed by his own relatives.

I am posting them here verbatim:

This in from another forum: His brother is saying we cannot have a kalasinga as CJ? Looks very toxic family relationship.

PM underwent lots of humiliation due to his parentage, an act he had no role in determining, that professionally he has made it is admirable.

Can't blame him for being vindictive...

There was a guy in his law class who used to poke him about his parentage. He ended up in the provincial administration. Many years later, he was charged with corruption. PM engineered a transfer so he could prosecute the case which he did to conviction. I would do the same.

There are tons of pictures of Murgor's immediate family but rarely will you see even a wall picture in his house of him and his parents. It is like something he would rather not talk about.

Nope Pundit. Whenever you use the word "maybe" it is because you don't know. The mother is a PURE kale who reverted to her maiden name to protect (polygamous home) property she worked "hard" to acquire ...

AoH, I believe Philip to be quarter racial if there is any such. The mum was nusu Guess work. And i do remember Philip and his equally light-skin siblings tormenting young gels around Moi's Bridge in early - mid eighties because they had a huge motorbike (maybe a Harley) riding into Moi's Bridge from Moiben. Quite the spectacle it used to be...

[RV Pundit]

The most dense nipatean we got in this forum
If Murgor was born by bi-racial - cheboror - the nurse - the first wife of Charles.
And she gave birth to two kids with biracial features.
Murgor and the sister; Then kids would therefore have biracial features - 1/4.

You can clearly see Murgor and 3rd lady in that picture look similar - they are probably the children the first wife.

UNLESS YOU HAVE SEEN PICTURES of their mother - shut up!!

 Murgor - claims the 1400 acres in Moiben was bought by their mother - not their father?

The land was therefore split btw Murgor and her sister - Murgor got about 650 acres.

This is where Murgor lives in and run a dairy farm.

Now Charles Murgor went on to marry 4 other wifes...and he had his own lands - including 1400 acres in Turbo.

Murgor and sister are therefore entitled to share of their father estates.

After arbitration it was then decided that all 12 kids of Charles murgor will get equal share of the property of their father...excluding of course Cheboror land that got divided by Murgor and her sister.

Philip Murgor (PM) with brother and cousins.

My roommate at campus in Hall 10, was biracial, half Asian half black. Being my roommate I got close enough to discern the difference between the tone of a half-caste (as we used to call them) and someone with just a plain light skin. My roommate actually wasn't eti even light skinned - he had a dark shade but was not black. On the other hand I am alittle light skinned for a luhya or Bukusu for that matter but interestingly all my kids are a shade lighter than me yet I have sired them even with darker women (In my youth I sowed wild oats) - I leave that to those who study genetics and genomics to explain. My point is I can tell the fine line between a biracial skin and just a light tone skin.

It could be that you @pragmatic never got close enough to those bike riders to see that PM's skin tone is biracial as opposed to just having a light tone. I therefore offer you this photo so you can make deductions!

@Pragmatic too bad you missed out on the run up to PM's day at JSC. Lenana alumni whatsApp groups were awash with revelations about PM's heritage. Don't  worry I will for your sake post a little of what made the rounds, most revealed by his own relatives.

I am posting them here verbatim:

This in from another forum: His brother is saying we cannot have a kalasinga as CJ? Looks very toxic family relationship.

PM underwent lots of humiliation due to his parentage, an act he had no role in determining, that professionally he has made it is admirable.

Can't blame him for being vindictive...

There was a guy in his law class who used to poke him about his parentage. He ended up in the provincial administration. Many years later, he was charged with corruption. PM engineered a transfer so he could prosecute the case which he did to conviction. I would do the same.

There are tons of pictures of Murgor's immediate family but rarely will you see even a wall picture in his house of him and his parents. It is like something he would rather not talk about.

Nope Pundit. Whenever you use the word "maybe" it is because you don't know. The mother is a PURE kale who reverted to her maiden name to protect (polygamous home) property she worked "hard" to acquire ...

AoH, I believe Philip to be quarter racial if there is any such. The mum was nusu Guess work. And i do remember Philip and his equally light-skin siblings tormenting young gels around Moi's Bridge in early - mid eighties because they had a huge motorbike (maybe a Harley) riding into Moi's Bridge from Moiben. Quite the spectacle it used to be...

[RV Pundit]

Actually Chebor the first wife had six kids
http://kenyalaw.org/caselaw/cases/view/116369

t is also the applicant’s case that  in 1972 despite opposition by the deceased, the late Christine Chebor purchased property through loans acquired from financial institutions and from her own savings which she named Kalyet farm; that in order to safeguard the security of the property and ensure that it was not invaded by his co-wife Selina Murgor and her children in the pretext that it belonged to the deceased, she changed her name from Christine Chebor Murgor to her maiden name of Christine Chebor; that in the premises, Kalyet farm was her personal property and it has never formed part of the deceased’s Estate.

[audacityofhope]

You have no facts and worse still, you can't comprehend what you are Googling ... First you got the number of siblings birthed by Christine wrong! (What a strategy: attack first, research later. SMDH)
Secondly Christine Chebor was not, repeat, was NOT the first wife to ex-PC Charles Murgor - she was the 3rd wife. This is repeated in  by different publications. Also you totally mixed up the stories of succession of two prominent brothers William Murgor and Charles Murgor. The guy who grabbed/allocated 650 acres for himself at the expense of 35 siblings is Keiyo North MP James Murgor - a son to William Murgor which makes James a cousin to Philip Murgor. (William had more offspring than Charles)

https://allafrica.com/stories/202005120449.html

Charles, who died in 1995, had four wives: Selinah Kimoi (five children), Hannah (two children), Christine Chebor (six children, including Philip) and Dinah Chepkoech (four children).

In the picture I posted earlier I cleay stated that inside the picture were Philip's COUSINS. In fact the picture was taken when Philip was acting as the lawyer for a succession of his cousins, not his immediate family . Philip was against the disinheritance of the daughters of his uncle William Murgor (Enid being one of them). The William children had an even bigger succession issue that could only be resolved by the courts after all efforts at mediation failed. The lady in a pink jumper is Enid who lives in the US.

Who is dense?

[RV Pundit]

toilet.com is missing their mad man.

You have no facts and worse still, you can't comprehend what you are Googling ... First you got the number of siblings birthed by Christine wrong! (What a strategy: attack first, research later. SMDH)
Secondly Christine Chebor was not, repeat, was NOT the first wife to ex-PC Charles Murgor - she was the 3rd wife. This is repeated in  by different publications. Also you totally mixed up the stories of succession of two prominent brothers William Murgor and Charles Murgor. The guy who grabbed/allocated 650 acres for himself at the expense of 35 siblings is Keiyo North MP James Murgor - a son to William Murgor which makes James a cousin to Philip Murgor. (William had more offspring than Charles)

https://allafrica.com/stories/202005120449.html

Charles, who died in 1995, had four wives: Selinah Kimoi (five children), Hannah (two children), Christine Chebor (six children, including Philip) and Dinah Chepkoech (four children).

In the picture I posted earlier I cleay stated that inside the picture were Philip's COUSINS. In fact the picture was taken when Philip was acting as the lawyer for a succession of his cousins, not his immediate family . Philip was against the disinheritance of the daughters of his uncle William Murgor (Enid being one of them). The William children had an even bigger succession issue that could only be resolved by the courts after all efforts at mediation failed. The lady in a pink jumper is Enid who lives in the US.

Who is dense?