Author Topic: Robina and Elon Musk groupies wanalia kwa choo (Read 6708 times)

RV Pundit · « **on:** March 04, 2021, 05:27:15 PM »

Tesla share price.
3rd of February: $854
3rd of March: $653

patel · « **Reply #1 on:** March 04, 2021, 08:59:10 PM »

Bitcoin move was a dumb move. Market is down today though across the board.

Nefertiti · « **Reply #2 on:** March 04, 2021, 11:28:27 PM »

i bought Tesla at 4usd in 2010 IPO. I am no speculator. Tesla still has solid IP leads that will hold once it becomes clear GM and Daimlers cannot keep up. Tesla competition is cheap Chinese with huge scale. Likes of Chinese NIO and BYD are cheap but far from profitable. They will dominate Chinese or Asia Pacific market but Tesla will dominate US and Europe.

Don't sell Tesla unless you are a short/speculator. Long term it's the best.

Nefertiti · « **Reply #3 on:** March 04, 2021, 11:29:09 PM »

meantime BTC has skyrocketed...

BTC 3rd Feb 37k usd
BTC 3rd Mar 50k usd

Georgesoros · « **Reply #4 on:** March 06, 2021, 05:14:08 AM »

AM sure its a correction, not the norm. Its a calculated move, in my opinion.

patel · « **Reply #5 on:** March 06, 2021, 05:35:08 AM »

Tesla turning a profit on crypto currency but not on the main/core business of EV.

Quote from: Robina on March 04, 2021, 11:29:09 PM

meantime BTC has skyrocketed...

BTC 3rd Feb 37k usd
BTC 3rd Mar 50k usd

yulemsee · « **Reply #6 on:** March 06, 2021, 07:12:47 PM »

Quote from: Robina on March 04, 2021, 11:28:27 PM

i bought Tesla at 4usd in 2010 IPO. I am no speculator. Tesla still has solid IP leads that will hold once it becomes clear GM and Daimlers cannot keep up. Tesla competition is cheap Chinese with huge scale. Likes of Chinese NIO and BYD are cheap but far from profitable. They will dominate Chinese or Asia Pacific market but Tesla will dominate US and Europe.

Don't sell Tesla unless you are a short/speculator. Long term it's the best.

Tesla will end up like a mercedes / BMW, the aspirational brand, chinese companies will be the toyotas and hondas of todays america, the intersection of cost and reliability

RV Pundit · « **Reply #7 on:** March 06, 2021, 08:08:07 PM »

Quote from: yulemsee on March 06, 2021, 07:12:47 PM

Quote from: Robina on March 04, 2021, 11:28:27 PM
i bought Tesla at 4usd in 2010 IPO. I am no speculator. Tesla still has solid IP leads that will hold once it becomes clear GM and Daimlers cannot keep up. Tesla competition is cheap Chinese with huge scale. Likes of Chinese NIO and BYD are cheap but far from profitable. They will dominate Chinese or Asia Pacific market but Tesla will dominate US and Europe.

Don't sell Tesla unless you are a short/speculator. Long term it's the best.
Tesla will end up like a mercedes / BMW, the aspirational brand, chinese companies will be the toyotas and hondas of todays america, the intersection of cost and reliability

what will happen to real Mercedes and such cars..it easy for them to go electric and electronic..than for Tesla to build the entire value chain.Why would someone buy Telsa instead of an electric Ferrari or Lamborghini

Nefertiti · « **Reply #8 on:** March 08, 2021, 10:33:52 AM »

BTC was a rebut to gleeful Pundit who owns trees in Mau grabbed forest land. BTC has skyrocketed on a grander scale much more than any stock in the world. 1BTC is 50k usd

I own BTC not just Tesla for posterity not speculation. Even if Tesla and BTC shrink by 100% I would not sell because they are longterm assets better than any other stocks or prime real estate today. BTC will be strong so long as there is no alternative currency free of manipulation by the Fed, PBOC or ECB. BTC saved Wikileaks despite US breathing fire and freezing their accounts... even Ruto and Raila have millions of BTC for 2022 campaigns. I doubt a fool like Pundit can run for MCA without landing in trouble over shady exposed 'assets' in Mau or Syokimau

But am not sure if to buy dogecoin.

Quote from: patel on March 06, 2021, 05:35:08 AM

Tesla turning a profit on crypto currency but not on the main/core business of EV.
Quote from: Robina on March 04, 2021, 11:29:09 PM
meantime BTC has skyrocketed...

BTC 3rd Feb 37k usd
BTC 3rd Mar 50k usd

RV Pundit · « **Reply #9 on:** March 08, 2021, 10:59:11 AM »

Actually today I am heading to Mau to buy 5 more acres for my trees - the sure bet long term investment - green sustainable passive investment. I am now 30 acres of trees. My cousin is at 50 acres.

Quote from: Robina on March 08, 2021, 10:33:52 AM

BTC was a rebut to gleeful Pundit who owns trees in Mau grabbed forest land. BTC has skyrocketed on a grander scale much more than any stock in the world. 1BTC is 50k usd I own BTC not just Tesla for posterity not speculation. Even if Tesla and BTC shrink by 100% I would not sell because they are longterm assets better than any other stocks or prime real estate today. BTC will be strong so long as there is no alternative currency free of manipulation by the Fed, PBOC or ECB. BTC saved Wikileaks despite US breathing fire and freezing their accounts... even Ruto and Raila have millions of BTC for 2022 campaigns. I doubt a fool like Pundit can run for MCA without landing in trouble over shady exposed 'assets' in Mau or Syokimau

But am not sure if to buy dogecoin.

Quote from: patel on March 06, 2021, 05:35:08 AM
Tesla turning a profit on crypto currency but not on the main/core business of EV.
Quote from: Robina on March 04, 2021, 11:29:09 PM
meantime BTC has skyrocketed...

BTC 3rd Feb 37k usd
BTC 3rd Mar 50k usd

Nefertiti · « **Reply #10 on:** March 08, 2021, 11:09:46 AM »

Quote from: RV Pundit on March 06, 2021, 08:08:07 PM

what will happen to real Mercedes and such cars..it easy for them to go electric and electronic..than for Tesla to build the entire value chain.Why would someone buy Telsa instead of an electric Ferrari or Lamborghini

Tesla has staying power.. Tesla Autopilot is (full self-driving) FSD Beta already - as everyone else including Waymo (GOOGLE) - are struggling at Level 3. Basically Tesla has galloped to Level 5 for self-driving capabilities. Then Tesla batteries are unbeatable even by Panasonic the Japanese battery powerhouse for decades. Tesla has the biggest Super-charger network - even Daimler or Mecedes don't have that in their own country where Tesla already is well rooted.

Toyota or Nissan lunch is being eaten by NIO and BYD - new Chinese kids on the block targeting cheap segment. Mercedes or Daimler or GM will not beat Tesla while relying on Google Waymo to supply self-driving as they are unable to hack it; while relying on fed or state to supply charging stations; while relying on dealers to sell their cars. They are too slow to innovate and that remains the Tesla edge.

In short
Tesla is better in tech than Big Tech like Google and Panasonic
Tesla has better supply chain than Big Auto like Daimler and GM

Tesla just needs to get 10-15% of EV market and become the biggest auto globally. They look good enough for it.

RV Pundit · « **Reply #11 on:** March 08, 2021, 12:06:21 PM »

Telsa has sold 0.5M cars..and that is bottomline. Toyota produces that number of cars I bet in a week.

Arcadian_Dreamer · « **Reply #12 on:** March 08, 2021, 05:34:24 PM »

Quote from: RV Pundit on March 08, 2021, 10:59:11 AM

Actually today I am heading to Mau to buy 5 more acres for my trees - the sure bet long term investment - green sustainable passive investment. I am now 30 acres of trees. My cousin is at 50 acres.

How safe is that investment?

Georgesoros · « **Reply #13 on:** March 09, 2021, 09:53:29 PM »

Quote from: Arcadian_Dreamer on March 08, 2021, 05:34:24 PM

Quote from: RV Pundit on March 08, 2021, 10:59:11 AM
Actually today I am heading to Mau to buy 5 more acres for my trees - the sure bet long term investment - green sustainable passive investment. I am now 30 acres of trees. My cousin is at 50 acres.

How safe is that investment?

I dont think you can go wrong with trees. But these is a 5+ yrea investment.
He has not said whether he rents the land.

Nefertiti · « **Reply #14 on:** March 12, 2021, 11:12:54 PM »

Quote from: Georgesoros on March 09, 2021, 09:53:29 PM

Quote from: Arcadian_Dreamer on March 08, 2021, 05:34:24 PM
Quote from: RV Pundit on March 08, 2021, 10:59:11 AM
Actually today I am heading to Mau to buy 5 more acres for my trees - the sure bet long term investment - green sustainable passive investment. I am now 30 acres of trees. My cousin is at 50 acres.

How safe is that investment?

I dont think you can go wrong with trees. But these is a 5+ yrea investment.
He has not said whether he rents the land.

It is MAU forest land... basically a dodgy investment that a bank would not sign on. And someone says stocks are the casino.

Nefertiti · « **Reply #15 on:** March 12, 2021, 11:14:21 PM »

Pundit Tesla mkt cap is back to 660B from 550B in few days.. as semi and pickup truck orders skyrocket. Staying power.

See it this way, Tesla is selling 500k cars yearly as at 2020. From 10k in 2016. Projection is 1m by 2022. The 500k cars per year is DELIVERIES - what they are able to manufacture today - these are orders from 2018. If you order today it delivered in 2022. Plan is to nick quick same-week order-to-delivery in 2022.

I know your assumption is Tesla has only 500k orders but it's actually a manufacturing/scaling headache. Since the 500k is 50% of EV sales worldwide- they only need to hold onto a good share of that - 10 to 15% - and become biggest auto in few years. GM 10m sales are gasoline cars obviously- their share of EV is maybe 2%. With their chameleon innovation pace with Ford, Daimler, Ferrari, etc - Tesla will supplant them as world goes EV from gas.

Tesla of course does not compete with Toyota or Nissan - 10k cars - these are being routed by Chinese BYD. Japan is losing cheap auto to China. Germany and Detroit are losing luxury auto to Tesla. That why VW or GM stocks are stuck at 50B as Tesla hit 600B. Noone sees how GM will convert its old combustion engine assembly into EV so fast, let alone catch up in self-driving. Google and Apple are unable to compete with Tesla

in tech - Uber, GM, VW shut down their hopelessly outpaced self-driving and outsourced.

Georgesoros · « **Reply #16 on:** March 13, 2021, 12:13:41 AM »

Bina,
Have you done research on mega batteries??. I hear that what Tx had to use when everything failed. They can easily be carried from one place to another, plugged in, voila LIGHTS!! Can use solar or power plants to charge.

Nefertiti · « **Reply #17 on:** March 13, 2021, 12:39:07 AM »

Georgesoros- i know you are as old as the Polish-Jewish neoliberal who shorts Tesla big. Tesla is an energy and AI company not really auto. Theirs are lithium-ion and you don't swap - in fact they are pretty fixed. Recharges in 5min. Tesla supercharger network began 12 years ago together with Model S. Being tech is what made them fail to scale manufacturing hence the 2 years order backlog. Cause unlike phones you cannot just outsource auto assembly to China or Vietnam. It needs high expertise on scale.

Hio mega batteries sounds ridiculous - noone wants to carry two batteries in the hood and swap ... like carrying a jerrycan of gas to refill

If people won't carry two phones forget about them swapping batteries, ok? DOA

Georgesoros · « **Reply #18 on:** March 13, 2021, 04:05:22 PM »

Quote from: Robina on March 13, 2021, 12:39:07 AM

Georgesoros- i know you are as old as the Polish-Jewish neoliberal who shorts Tesla big. Tesla is an energy and AI company not really auto. Theirs are lithium-ion and you don't swap - in fact they are pretty fixed. Recharges in 5min. Tesla supercharger network began 12 years ago together with Model S. Being tech is what made them fail to scale manufacturing hence the 2 years order backlog. Cause unlike phones you cannot just outsource auto assembly to China or Vietnam. It needs high expertise on scale.

Hio mega batteries sounds ridiculous - noone wants to carry two batteries in the hood and swap ... like carrying a jerrycan of gas to refill If people won't carry two phones forget about them swapping batteries, ok? DOA

Bina, am older than your great grandma but I can still pack it. So, they carried truck sized batteries, hooked them to the grid and Austin Tx got their power back while they tried to restore regular sources of energy. Its the future. Batteries were in AZ.
https://financialpost.com/technology/tesla-is-plugging-a-secret-mega-battery-into-the-texas-grid

Nefertiti · « **Reply #19 on:** March 14, 2021, 01:33:07 PM »

Soros your equally old namesake is a dirty Zionist pig and a neocon. I see you mean the megapacks in Texas... 2.1k MW power storage is not a joke. With 37k MW generation capacity of pure green power. Texas wild storms are easier gig than Southern Aussie 2017 where Tesla wired a state 50% bigger than TX in 100 days.

A Model 3 battery is 78kWh at 350volts.. a mere 1kW that can last 350km on the road. That TX plant could run the city's full EV fleet.

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